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I know all the good stuff Android says about auto killing memory threads when there is a need BUT I am a micromanager for my Android . I JUST DONT WANT Google Play Services and Google Maps service to run in background as if they own the OS (sounds like Google like to keep google running after all ) .
Is there ANY way e.g....
-- Command via terminal
-- Any APP out there
-- a file change
that will prevent these suckers from running in the background. Google claims that these are innocent little puppies -just sit in the memory and dont consume CPU . Really ? NOT SO ..
-- They consume SLOW NETWORK bandwidth and cpu ( Keep a port checking s/w and see the android's IP doing some mischief through random ports, EVEN when its not in use )
-- Suck the battery
-- I JUST DON'T like carrying a lot of unnecessary stuff in the trunk of my car ..Ok?
I know there were some apps that would MODIFY default permissions on each app. Could they help . Could someone run me a few names
I feel the same way. I want to keep Google Play from looking for updates in the background. Glad to know I'm not the only one!
I'm not exactly sure of the end result. But maybe you could use a titanium backup widget to freeze/unfreeze Google play services. I did it to g maps and the toggle widget works perfect I just haven't tried play services because not sure if it will break something lol.
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djwuh said:
I'm not exactly sure of the end result. But maybe you could use a titanium backup widget to freeze/unfreeze Google play services. I did it to g maps and the toggle widget works perfect I just haven't tried play services because not sure if it will break something lol.
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I am already using Link2SD ( BTW I met some other serious issues with it - no one here in XDA has bothered to reply to me ) and I froze the following apps that run in the background without asking me
-- google services framework
-- google play
-- airdroid
- some other google service ( not sure of name )
i will unfreeze only when I need to , rest times I am good. Miss out updates - but who cares - I dont - actualyl updates are a pain in b**t when they keep happening every other day
I wondered if there is some s/w out there that will change the ACL's of these files so that they cannot exe, automatically.
sieger007 said:
I am already using Link2SD ( BTW I met some other serious issues with it - no one here in XDA has bothered to reply to me ) and I froze the following apps that run in the background without asking me
-- google services framework
-- google play
-- airdroid
- some other google service ( not sure of name )
i will unfreeze only when I need to , rest times I am good. Miss out updates - but who cares - I dont - actualyl updates are a pain in b**t when they keep happening every other day
I wondered if there is some s/w out there that will change the ACL's of these files so that they cannot exe, automatically.
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You froze Google Services Framework and your phone still worked???
I'd like to see a full list of what you froze.
EEngineer said:
You froze Google Services Framework and your phone still worked???
I'd like to see a full list of what you froze.
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some google service - I will double check the name. Try it . How cares - unfreeze if it does not work . I froze the sim#2 service also because i dont use it Think Linux - what do you need to run it
I just tried something different, I used DroidWall to block network access to the following services:
Google Play Services
Google Services Framework
Google Account Manager
Network Location
Google Bookmarks Sync
Google Contacts Sync
They were all listed as one item so they had to be blocked all at the same time. I will report what happens.
It's possible, annoying part is having to defrost services to install/update an app. Once in hibernation with the correct apk you'll be fine with no orange bars.
Make sure to delete all /data/data gsf stuff
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I just tried something different, I used DroidWall to block network access to the following services:
Google Play Services
Google Services Framework
Google Account Manager
Network Location
Google Bookmarks Sync
Google Contacts Sync
They were all listed as one item so they had to be blocked all at the same time. I will report what happens.
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Any updates on if this helped or not? Did it cause any negative effects?
No negative effects, and tablet is FASTER! Only thing is I have to unblock Google Play Service to check for app updates, but I only do that twice a month anyway.
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No negative effects, and tablet is FASTER! Only thing is I have to unblock Google Play Service to check for app updates, but I only do that twice a month anyway.
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Is there not a way to disable them all apart from G Play Service?
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Is there not a way to disable them all apart from G Play Service?
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Not sure I understand your question. I've discovered it's safe to block network access to them all.
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if you block Google Play services and account manager your Gmail App will not work unless you are accessing Gmail through some other third party imapclient can someone confirm if Gmail App will work when these guys are blocked
There's two real reasons to do so
To remove the icon from the drawer (in which case it is easy)
Because they run as a background service which uses the internet or something else (perhaps you notice an impact on your battery life)
Because you started and can't stop now
I think I'm at three. Right now, I'm just curious what all these pre-installed apps do. I've made a list of all applications, including whether you can disable them - see the attachment or
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Please do provide information for the list. There are some gaps from before I started the list (including what some disabled apps do in terms of battery life, internet usage and other things).
In particular I cannot identify what apps are responsible for the running process "Motorola Services", nor what this does.
Finally, I would just like to collect information on what other things such as "com.qualcomm.atfwd" do (just out of curiosity).
A few remarks:
- Google uses Google Play Services to bring the latest API features (like Google Maps V2, the new Geolocation API, Google Cloud Messaging etc.) to the end users without the need of a complete OS upgrade. If you disable it, you will lose features (and even functionality) in a bunch of third party apps. Also it does not have an icon in the app drawer.
- Google Search is not just the search bar on the home screen, it is the entire Google Now feature. I guess it is not a problem if you disable it, but you will lose Google Now as well.
- Google One Time Init is the wizard you are presented at first startup and after every factory reset. You can disable it but it does not have much effect on the phone. I guess the other similar app (One Time Init) is its Motorola-branded counterpart.
- Launcher is the default home screen of the device, you can disable it if you have any third party launchers installed. Don't disable it otherwise, or you will have a serious problem.
- Tags is the AOSP NFC app, since we don't have built-in NFC chip it is safe to disable.
Thanks Debaj, I've updated the google document.
When you say the launcher is the home screen, does that include the dock and app drawer?
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When you say the launcher is the home screen, does that include the dock and app drawer?
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Yep, exactly.
You're still updating the list? I could help you a little
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You're still updating the list? I could help you a little
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Yes, I still want to work on the list. Any help that you can give is appreciated. Bear in mind that you can add comments to the google docs spreadsheet, so my delay in replying won't prevent you from updating the sheet.
I plan to update to 4.4.2 soon as well, then I'll be able to do some tests on what affect these changes have on the battery life.
Greetings.
as you know, even if we disable "android device manager" from settings->security->device administrators, it still can be enabled from https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager "enable lock & erase"
from one side it is good, but from other side it is bad - i don't want that my phone can be remotely erased by google
this functionality definitely resides in gmscore.apk
of course, we can just kill all google services, but we loose too much.
so : probably someone from devs here already know answer what to patch in gmscore to disable this behavior ?
with latest gmscore update ( 6.1.74 (1511752-038) ) the only message i can see, when pushing "enable lock and erase" :
GCM message com.google.android.gms 0:1414056810224892%136ddda63e77bab2
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of course, hex payload different each time.
disabling service
Code:
com.google.android.gms.mdm.services.GcmReceiverService
did job
:good:
Thanks you, I 'm searching since 10 minute.
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disabling service
Code:
com.google.android.gms.mdm.services.GcmReceiverService
did job
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Thanks! I was wondering how to do that.
thanks, but...
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disabling service
Code:
com.google.android.gms.mdm.services.GcmReceiverService
did job
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I can't seem to find that service, heck I can't even find gmscore.apk
When I use find / -name gmscore.apk in terminal nothing came up.
Running 4.4.2 on galaxy S5, google framework 4.4.2-940549
Any ideas?
I would really not want my device wiped If my google account was compromised (really only have it for android)
as i remember, this service because build into gmscore from 4.4.4 and enabling downloading some external application.
can be wrong, though.
damn it google!
This is really frustrating. I can't find a way to disable it and I can't find 'com.google.android.gms.mdm.services.GcmReceiverService'.
This a serious security flaw, let me explain why.... I have a company account on my phone, just for the purpose of receiving gmail, and that's very important to me. This also means this account can access my phone through android device manager. So, anyone that can log in to firm's gmail can lock and erase my phone and there's no way to disable it. Best I could do was turn off location reporting and hide my phone from showing in device list. However, anyone that can log in to this account, can also change this in settings and unhide it, enable lock and erase, make it ring and.... well, lock and erase it.
This is very worrying when you have a lot of people with access to gmail account that you also have on your phone. ATM only solution I see is to remove account on my phone and search for other email app.
Anyone knows how one could deal with this and still use gmail app?
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This is really frustrating. I can't find a way to disable it and I can't find 'com.google.android.gms.mdm.services.GcmReceiverService'.
This a serious security flaw, let me explain why.... I have a company account on my phone, just for the purpose of receiving gmail, and that's very important to me. This also means this account can access my phone through android device manager. So, anyone that can log in to firm's gmail can lock and erase my phone and there's no way to disable it. Best I could do was turn off location reporting and hide my phone from showing in device list. However, anyone that can log in to this account, can also change this in settings and unhide it, enable lock and erase, make it ring and.... well, lock and erase it.
This is very worrying when you have a lot of people with access to gmail account that you also have on your phone. ATM only solution I see is to remove account on my phone and search for other email app.
Anyone knows how one could deal with this and still use gmail app?
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Instead of a problem with ADM, this sounds like a massive security issue on your company's side. I don't know why your company need to share the same email account, but the more people who have access, the more likely someone will spill the beans. If I am you, getting my phone wiped will the least of my worries.
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Thank you, that is what I want. Great!
Ok so Im facing the same problem is there any way to disable this process ?
gimche said:
This is really frustrating. I can't find a way to disable it and I can't find 'com.google.android.gms.mdm.services.GcmReceiverService'.
This a serious security flaw, let me explain why.... I have a company account on my phone, just for the purpose of receiving gmail, and that's very important to me. This also means this account can access my phone through android device manager. So, anyone that can log in to firm's gmail can lock and erase my phone and there's no way to disable it. Best I could do was turn off location reporting and hide my phone from showing in device list. However, anyone that can log in to this account, can also change this in settings and unhide it, enable lock and erase, make it ring and.... well, lock and erase it.
This is very worrying when you have a lot of people with access to gmail account that you also have on your phone. ATM only solution I see is to remove account on my phone and search for other email app.
Anyone knows how one could deal with this and still use gmail app?
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deadwolf666 said:
Ok so Im facing the same problem is there any way to disable this process ?
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tamuin said:
I can't seem to find that service, heck I can't even find gmscore.apk
When I use find / -name gmscore.apk in terminal nothing came up.
Running 4.4.2 on galaxy S5, google framework 4.4.2-940549
Any ideas?
I would really not want my device wiped If my google account was compromised (really only have it for android)
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Install My Android Tools then go to Service>Google Play Service then disable the corresponding service.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.myandroidtools&en
How about using a ROM without gapps?
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Install My Android Tools then go to Service>Google Play Service then disable the corresponding service.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.myandroidtools&en
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This dosent appear to be working, as after I disable all the above services, clicked on "enable lock and erase" from my google account it reactivated said services. So which service is activating and overriding the services I disabled?
Im running Android 4.4.2(goldeneye rom, Googymax kernal) on a Samsung i9505, I use Xprivacy, Android firewall, and Appmaster(app uninstaller & autostart manager)
Trying to secure an oem samsung Rom from google and its services while still using all the factory apps is going to be like herding cats...
It's similar to going to the pool and expecting to swim but not getting wet.
If you use Google apps and use the accounts feature of Android then you are going to have Google play services and other Google services running, and sadly you can stop them all you want they update and restart themselves regularly.
You just can't get away from Google, if you still use Google play, the Google mail app, Google voice search, Google account verifier, Google download manager, Google hangouts, Google plus or the host of other Google services and apps that a baked into your rom.
All you will do in find yourself with a lot of force closes from apps, and less hair more cats.
What @Cyclu said was the right way. there are several services and receivers that have "mdm" , probably what you could do is use the search function in the app while viewing the services for GooglePlayServices. at the top of the screen, click menu, toggle full, (full/short option) then tap the magnifying glass, then the search box and type "mdm" , then do the same thing under the receivers section
This is so annoying. Can you imagine disabling admin on the phone, knowing that after reading the description in that area of the settings that it cannot be used to wipe the phone? Then someone testing it to prove it and they click "Enable" and wipe the phone? Know how dangerous that is? My phone is an S5 mini, stock firmware and rooted with SuperSU. What can I do to just prevent admin mode being enabled? I want to be able to track my phone's location but I do NOT want my phone able to be remotely wiped by anyone including myself, remotely.
I tried all. Looks like there is no way to disable ADM. Even if u disable corresponding service for ADM still when u restart that service gets re-enables it self again. Had any got a solution to disable this crappy android device manager fully?? thx in advance.
Forgive me, but this thread is just pathetic. If you have Gapps, your device is not yours. It is Google's. Period. If you can't live without hangouts and similar garbage, then enjoy them, but stop *****ing about remote wipe. You can't be half-pregnant. By the way, remote wipe is not the worse thing that could happen to you. Anything could be silently installed on "your" phone, even if you somehow disable ADM. It could be done through Google play and google services framework. Not to mention thar google analytics record everything about your activities and gsf regularly reports the same "home" i.e Google.
To gmail at work guy: if you can't use another client to access your work gmail, get a separate feature phone.
even "android = google" ? much less gapps , eh ?
"all i can really do is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
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even "android = google" ? much less gapps , eh ?
"all i can really do is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
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Android, unlike Gapps, is open source. So, you can get under the hood and clean lots of things.
I just unboxed and set up a Huawei P20 EML-L09. In the process of setting it up, it downloaded my carriers apps ( Virgin mobile) and apps from my home internet (Bell). It also came with popular apps such as facebook, facebook messenger and Instagram. The issue is it is not allowing me to delete these applications and some other bloatware (i was successful with some). For example, if I go into setting > app info > Instagram....I am given the option to Disable or Force stop, but the option to uninstall is not there.
Does anyone know the reason for this or how to bypass this? I'm very much used to the old stock android systems on the nexus line and am hoping to revert to something like that.
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I just unboxed and set up a Huawei P20 EML-L09. In the process of setting it up, it downloaded my carriers apps ( Virgin mobile) and apps from my home internet (Bell). It also came with popular apps such as facebook, facebook messenger and Instagram. The issue is it is not allowing me to delete these applications and some other bloatware (i was successful with some). For example, if I go into setting > app info > Instagram....I am given the option to Disable or Force stop, but the option to uninstall is not there.
Does anyone know the reason for this or how to bypass this? I'm very much used to the old stock android systems on the nexus line and am hoping to revert to something like that.
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Find in google all in one tool. The web page should be xda. Download program instal on windows. Delete apps
I tried that for 1st time on WhatsApp & then I noticed some battery drain. I uninstalled the cloned app, but in Apps, I still see cloned apps created automatically by the service such as Android system webview & Google play services with no uninstall/disable buttons.
Is there a way to get rid of these please?
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I tried that for 1st time on WhatsApp & then I noticed some battery drain. I uninstalled the cloned app, but in Apps, I still see cloned apps created automatically by the service such as Android system webview & Google play services with no uninstall/disable buttons.
Is there a way to get rid of these please?
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hello has anyone heard of a solution for this issue or if one was already provided in this comment's original thread, can a lick be provided for it? i think I'm having the same issue from the context of this comment. Maybe the only difference is that my phone is not rooted which im sure will end up being a factor in whether there is anyway to resolve this or not. samsung galaxy j7 pro j7271 wth it has too many names out there lol. meteopcs 2017 variant if that helps. nonrooted 8.1 and trying to stay that way if possible as this is my only phone. thanks for your time!
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hello has anyone heard of a solution for this issue
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Try clearing data of Dual Messenger in Settings - Apps & then disable/freeze it. I don't remember how I fixed it but since I'm using custom roms, I think I wiped data in twrp after backing up me apps & reinstalling the rom.
On stock rom if disabling the app doesn't work, u may have to reset.
Fullmetal Jun said:
Try clearing data of Dual Messenger in Settings - Apps & then disable/freeze it. I don't remember how I fixed it but since I'm using custom roms, I think I wiped data in twrp after backing up me apps & reinstalling the rom.
On stock rom if disabling the app doesn't work, u may have to reset.
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Thanks! For some reason, I'm cannot disable it. I'll give resetting a try and post back whether that works or not. I had considered resetting, but was being stubborn trying to figure out another way.
Success Uninstalling Shadow Services
I have a Samsung S8 and was facing the same issue when I searched for "Uninstall Dual Messenger" and found this thread. I resolved the issue and decided to return here and say what I did to get them all uninstalled. I didn't have a "Secure Folder" also, I already opened the "Dual Messenger" setting and disabled the available options. The missing step for me was to go to Apps > ANT+ and click Force Stop and Disable. I had already uninstalled "Copy Of Messenger" when I discovered that it doesn't remove the copy of play services and everything else. Removing the ANT+ App removed about five or six "Copy Of.." Apps as well. I hope this is enlightening. After removing all of your Dual Apps, Copy Of.. Apps & Secure Folder, Remove the ANT+ App. On Galaxy S8 With The Latest Updates As Of 6/9/20 I alas successfully removed the remnant shadow service copies that were associated with Dual Messenger.
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Success Uninstalling Shadow Services
I have a Samsung S8 and was facing the same issue when I searched for "Uninstall Dual Messenger" and found this thread. I resolved the issue and decided to return here and say what I did to get them all uninstalled. I didn't have a "Secure Folder" also, I already opened the "Dual Messenger" setting and disabled the available options. The missing step for me was to go to Apps > ANT+ and click Force Stop and Disable. I had already uninstalled "Copy Of Messenger" when I discovered that it doesn't remove the copy of play services and everything else. Removing the ANT+ App removed about five or six "Copy Of.." Apps as well. I hope this is enlightening. After removing all of your Dual Apps, Copy Of.. Apps & Secure Folder, Remove the ANT+ App. On Galaxy S8 With The Latest Updates As Of 6/9/20 I alas successfully removed the remnant shadow service copies that were associated with Dual Messenger.
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Hey so I dont have the App ANT+ installed. I checked with other Apps that list all system Apps as well but there's no ANT+ App. Any idea how to do it?