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[Q] HTC Desire S - Vodaphone UK Android 2.3.5 & Sense 3.0 update?

Hi there, I currently own an HTC Desire S, the information for it is below:
Android version:
2.3.3
HTC Sense version:
2.1
Software number:
1.28.401.1
Operator name:
vodaphone UK
I haven't yet recieved the Android 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 update. I have tryed searching for updates and checking in using that checkin dial code. I'm just wondering if there's anyway to install this official update onto my phone with minimal risk? I've looked around the forums but can't find exactly what i'm looking for (or I just can't find it!).
Thanks!

I think that you have got the same software version 1.28.401.1 that I had until recently.
I would like to have used to OTA update route but basically got tired of waiting.
I believe that the OTA update was targetted (certainly at first) specifically at those people who already received the previous (troublesome) update to 1.47.
I believe this explains why we didn't get the update.
I loaded the RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.5_Radio_20.4801.30. 0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_219480_signed from the development section here and it works a treat. No problems.
The only thing that puzzles me is that my phone is very definitely unbranded and not operator locked, whereas you mention Vodaphone. (If your phone was locked to Vodaphone I would have expected a different software version).
Anyway, if your phone is unlocked like mine, I would certainly recommend using the RUU.
- Steve

fasty said:
I think that you have got the same software version 1.28.401.1 that I had until recently.
I would like to have used to OTA update route but basically got tired of waiting.
I believe that the OTA update was targetted (certainly at first) specifically at those people who already received the previous (troublesome) update to 1.47.
I believe this explains why we didn't get the update.
I loaded the RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.5_Radio_20.4801.30. 0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_219480_signed from the development section here and it works a treat. No problems.
The only thing that puzzles me is that my phone is very definitely unbranded and not operator locked, whereas you mention Vodaphone. (If your phone was locked to Vodaphone I would have expected a different software version).
Anyway, if your phone is unlocked like mine, I would certainly recommend using the RUU.
- Steve
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Thanks very much for your reply.
Yeah, unfortunately my phone is in fact locked to Vodaphone, and I couldn't find the equivalent update that you listed for unlocked phones.

i have a vodafone as well on the same firmware and never got it.
from what i hear the update was pulled due to instability so if you didnt receive it already i very much doubt you will untill a new version is released.
i gave up waiting and went to endymion 3.5

Biogeneric said:
Yeah, unfortunately my phone is in fact locked to Vodaphone, and I couldn't find the equivalent update that you listed for unlocked phones.
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Are you sure it's locked?!
I thought that software version was for the generic european unlocked version.
Someone else help me here - can the same software number apply to both operator locked and unlocked phones?

fasty said:
Are you sure it's locked?!
I thought that software version was for the generic european unlocked version.
Someone else help me here - can the same software number apply to both operator locked and unlocked phones?
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i can confirm the htc euro ruu DOES NOT WORK ON VODAFONE BRANDED DEVICES. it bricked my phone and took a whole lot of work to downgrade back to the old hboot to get it working again. the only way to install this version on a voda desire s is via goldcard.it will just give you a cid error and brick your device

djisgod said:
i can confirm the htc euro ruu DOES NOT WORK ON VODAFONE BRANDED DEVICES. it bricked my phone and took a whole lot of work to downgrade back to the old hboot to get it working again. the only way to install this version on a voda desire s is via goldcard.it will just give you a cid error and brick your device
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Completely agree, great care needed !
But my point was, the software version1.28.401.1 reported by Biogeneric appears to be the same as I had until recently on my unbranded phone.
I thought that if his phone was locked to Vodaphone, wouldn't it have a different software number? Or can the operator lock the phone to their network without changing this software version away form the "generic" one?
- Steve

I'm with Vodaphone, and it says my network is "vodaphone UK" so i'm assuming it's locked! How am I supposed to find out without putting a different networks Sim in?

Biogeneric said:
I'm with Vodaphone, and it says my network is "vodaphone UK" so i'm assuming it's locked! How am I supposed to find out without putting a different networks Sim in?
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Mine (which recently had the same software version and in NOT operator locked) simply says the name of whatever SIM card you insert.
I suspect your phone may be unlocked, but I'd like feedback from a more experienced developer before suggesting that you load the RUU! We don't want any nasty accidents
By the way, I've just loaded RUU for 2.10.401.8 and it's looking good so far...

Okay, I tried putting in an Orange sim card and setting the network to Orange and it appears to all work (well, I had signal on it, and the network was stated as "Orange"). So i'm assuming my phone is in fact unlocked then?
If so, great news! Am I all clear to update to that unlocked version then? Anyone got a link to the newest one? (Not any mods etc. just the standard update!).
Thanks all!

Biogeneric said:
Okay, I tried putting in an Orange sim card and setting the network to Orange and it appears to all work (well, I had signal on it, and the network was stated as "Orange"). So i'm assuming my phone is in fact unlocked then?
If so, great news! Am I all clear to update to that unlocked version then? Anyone got a link to the newest one? (Not any mods etc. just the standard update!).
Thanks all!
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I believe that the most recent RUU is RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8_Radio_20.4801.30. 0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_225161_signed.exe
in the "Shipped Desire S ROM Collection" :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
I loaded this last night and not experienced any problems so far.
Be warned that this will wipe all existing data on your phone, so make sure that you have got everything saved. In some respects, this is a good thing because you are sure of getting a completely fresh install.
I can't see any reason why this shouldn't work for you, but I wouldn't feel bad if you got a second opinion
-Steve

fasty said:
I believe that the most recent RUU is RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8_Radio_20.4801.30. 0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_225161_signed.exe
in the "Shipped Desire S ROM Collection" :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
I loaded this last night and not experienced any problems so far.
Be warned that this will wipe all existing data on your phone, so make sure that you have got everything saved. In some respects, this is a good thing because you are sure of getting a completely fresh install.
I can't see any reason why this shouldn't work for you, but I wouldn't feel bad if you got a second opinion
-Steve
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Okay thanks very much! I'll try updating it via that ROM tonight - hopefully I won't brick it!
Does anyone know if updating the phone using this method voids the warranty?
Also, how do I actually install that update to my phone? Seen a few tutorials scattared around but some are for different things and I don't want to mess it up! (Easiest/quickest method please, if there is one ha!)
Thanks a lot for your help Steve!

Biogeneric said:
Okay thanks very much! I'll try updating it via that ROM tonight - hopefully I won't brick it!
Does anyone know if updating the phone using this method voids the warranty?
Also, how do I actually install that update to my phone? Seen a few tutorials scattared around but some are for different things and I don't want to mess it up! (Easiest/quickest method please, if there is one ha!)
Thanks a lot for your help Steve!
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I expect that doing almost anything other than the "official" OTA update theoretically voids warranty. But perhaps more important, if it all went horribly wrong, could anyone detect that you were fiddling with it
If you returned a phone rooted or S-off, then it's asking for trouble.
The discussed RUU is a signed update that does not invoke S-off or root the phone so should not create an "obvious" problem.
The way I updated my phone was as follows:
- I already had HTC Sync installed on my PC
- Fully charged phone
- Downloaded the RUU file to folder on hard disk
- Temporarily disabled my antivirus
- Temporarily disabled standby power saving option on PC
- Connected the phone as normal and selected the option on phone to do Sync
- I let the phone completely finish sync
- I ran the RUU on the PC and followed the simple instructions.
- It took about 10 minutes with no user intervention required.
I don't know if the whole HTC Sync thing is necessary, it was on my PC anyway and the procedure has worked OK for me.

I can now confirm this has all worked for me. no problems so far!
Thanks for all your help fasty! Very much appreciated.

Biogeneric said:
I can now confirm this has all worked for me. no problems so far!
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Great news! Be sure to thank "Football" because he is the one that has done the hard work making these ROMs available.

Hi not sure if posting in correct thread but I am on O2 and also have the 1.28.401.1 software and just been informed by HTC my phone is unbranded despite coming straight from O2. Has anyone received the update whilst being on 1.28.401.1? Am i wasting my time holding out for an OTA update?

RUU
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[Q] Dumb Questions...

Okay, So I'm fairly new to all this. I've made several (unsuccessful) attempts at rooting my AT&T HOX, but I finally think I know where I went wrong.
In the past, I had tried unlocking the bootloader without having SuperCID access. (So yes, I currently have s-on..) Mainly due to the fact that I didn't know I needed sim access to root.
Because of these past issues, I have done the ATT OTA update.. From what I have read in other posts, correct me if I'm wrong, there is currently no way to gain SuperCID with the 5.18 update..
Other than waiting, is there any way I could go about rooting my phone? Is it possible to reset to factory settings, and go back to Original software?
Please help. Would eventually love to get rid of all the ATT and HTC crap on my phone.. (can't stand sense 5..)
Android version - 4.2.2
HTC Sense version - 5.0
Software number 5.18.502.1
Evita PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT - 2.18.0000
Radio - 1.35a.32.45.27
OpenDSP-v33.1.0.45.1128
eMMC-boot

Because you've taken the latest at&t update there is no way at all to get SuperCID so you can unlock your bootloader. You'll have to wait and see whether a dev deems it worth his time to find a crack, but I wouldn't hold your breathe if I was you. Probably should have done your research before taking the update.
Sent from my Evita

tsunami560 said:
Okay, So I'm fairly new to all this. I've made several (unsuccessful) attempts at rooting my AT&T HOX, but I finally think I know where I went wrong.
In the past, I had tried unlocking the bootloader without having SuperCID access. (So yes, I currently have s-on..) Mainly due to the fact that I didn't know I needed sim access to root.
Because of these past issues, I have done the ATT OTA update.. From what I have read in other posts, correct me if I'm wrong, there is currently no way to gain SuperCID with the 5.18 update..
Other than waiting, is there any way I could go about rooting my phone? Is it possible to reset to factory settings, and go back to Original software?
Please help. Would eventually love to get rid of all the ATT and HTC crap on my phone.. (can't stand sense 5..)
Android version - 4.2.2
HTC Sense version - 5.0
Software number 5.18.502.1
Evita PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT - 2.18.0000
Radio - 1.35a.32.45.27
OpenDSP-v33.1.0.45.1128
eMMC-boot
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1. I'm not are of a root for this new firmware (as Timmaaa has stated).
2. I'm not sure why you chose to get the OTA update if you can't stand HTC and Sense. Any time you grab an update from A&T, you're risking not being able to root
3. I recommend you purchase a Google phone and root/mod it as much as you want. No more HTC, No More ATT, No more Sense.

DanGeorges said:
1. I'm not are of a root for this new firmware (as Timmaaa has stated).
2. I'm not sure why you chose to get the OTA update if you can't stand HTC and Sense. Any time you grab an update from A&T, you're risking not being able to root
3. I recommend you purchase a Google phone and root/mod it as much as you want. No more HTC, No More ATT, No more Sense.
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Hey Dan,
Thanks for the reply. I got the OTA because I like new. I didn't really think about it when I did it, so yea, it was a dumb mistake on my part.
I only got HTC, because it was my introduction to Android. I now have a rooted N7, and I love it. I would also love to get an N5, however, it's a good chunk of money I don't have currently, which is why I will be rooting my HOX once a root is available.
So, is anyone aware of a way to roll back an OTA update? Or is my best bet waiting for a 5.18 exploit?

Like I said, there is absolutely no way for you to get root unless someone releases an exploit.
Sent from my Evita

tsunami560 said:
So, is anyone aware of a way to roll back an OTA update? Or is my best bet waiting for a 5.18 exploit?
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If such a thing were possible, than a new exploit would not be necessary, and we would have told you about it already.
You can't "rollback" or revert to previous Android versions unless already rooted, s-off, etc.

[Q] M8 3.16 HBOOT S-Off

I just bought a HTC One M8 from T-Mobile, that incidentally came with an older HBoot.
I was promoted with an OTA updated & an ignoramus like me was accepted the 3.16 OTA & now I cannot achieve S-OFF!
Whats the verdict? Do I need to wait until a new exploit comes out for 3.16? Is there an exploit already available (thats not firewater) but I just haven't searched deep enough?
I've unlocked my bootloader so no use in trying to return the phone now, any replies/information is much appreciated!

rowrz said:
I just bought a HTC One M8 from T-Mobile, that incidentally came with an older HBoot.
I was promoted with an OTA updated & an ignoramus like me was accepted the 3.16 OTA & now I cannot achieve S-OFF!
Whats the verdict? Do I need to wait until a new exploit comes out for 3.16? Is there an exploit already available (thats not firewater) but I just haven't searched deep enough?
I've unlocked my bootloader so no use in trying to return the phone now, any replies/information is much appreciated!
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I am also having this issue. updated on day one not knowing it Patched the S-Off. any new updates would helpful.

I have the 3.16 hboot, and I had no problem getting s-off using this method:
http://firewater-soff.com/
I did not accept the ota update though.

rowrz said:
I just bought a HTC One M8 from T-Mobile, that incidentally came with an older HBoot.
I was promoted with an OTA updated & an ignoramus like me was accepted the 3.16 OTA & now I cannot achieve S-OFF!
Whats the verdict? Do I need to wait until a new exploit comes out for 3.16? Is there an exploit already available (thats not firewater) but I just haven't searched deep enough?
I've unlocked my bootloader so no use in trying to return the phone now, any replies/information is much appreciated!
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theroot.ninja $25 but worth it, works with anyone who updated OTA

[Q] New to HTC

Looking to buy a used M8. Is there anything to watch out for as far as software versions that s-off doesn't work or that to not have root yet?

You're new to HTC and you know what S-OFF means? You're farther along than I was when I got this phone.
The latest firmware version is 1.55.605.2 and that may or may not work with Firewater, the free S-OFF exploit. If it doesn't (and there's no telling until you try), you'll have to use SunShine, and that costs $25 (and there's no way around that price). Without S-OFF, best you can do is temp root that goes away when you reboot and may or may not come back (if it doesn't, you do it again). Naturally some stuff doesn't work with that. When you have S-OFF you can flash a custom recovery and then flash SuperSU for permanent root, or better yet you just flash a ROM.
There's about to be an update that will almost certainly break S-OFF, at least until SunShine catches up. I'm guessing Firewater won't be updated.

I saw there was custom kernels in the development boards, are these for retail or developer edition only? I understand that the bootloader is locked, so if these are for the retail edition, is flashing unsigned kernels a feature of having s-off?

By doing either the firewater or sunshine method will unlock your bootloader along with making your phone s-off so you will be good to go. The kernels in the Verizon m8 section will work only on the Verizon variant. You can check the main m8 section and look at their customers kernels. Normally they will list whether or not it works on a certain carrier. Just be careful in that forum considering its for all m8 variants so it is possible to download something that could brick your phone.

I tried firewater last night and it didn't work. I would try it first because it said it would work with what my phone had as in software. I ended up having to use sunshine and paying 25$

I have no issue paying. Right now I have a Note 3 that has nothing but Touchwiz roms. Great device but horrible Samsung software.

Dark Reality said:
You're new to HTC and you know what S-OFF means? You're farther along than I was when I got this phone.
The latest firmware version is 1.55.605.2 and that may or may not work with Firewater, the free S-OFF exploit. If it doesn't (and there's no telling until you try), you'll have to use SunShine, and that costs $25 (and there's no way around that price). Without S-OFF, best you can do is temp root that goes away when you reboot and may or may not come back (if it doesn't, you do it again). Naturally some stuff doesn't work with that. When you have S-OFF you can flash a custom recovery and then flash SuperSU for permanent root, or better yet you just flash a ROM.
There's about to be an update that will almost certainly break S-OFF, at least until SunShine catches up. I'm guessing Firewater won't be updated.
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If you don't mind me asking, which update is "almost certainly to break S-OFF" and how? Haven't heard anything about this and just wondering.

I'm not exactly sure. I'm running 1.55.605.2 and that's what came on my M8. Bought it on... June 14, I think. Or 16. Somewhere in there. No OTA's. Firewater worked fine for me. But some are saying that a future update (or this one, if you OTA'd from a previous) patches Firewater's exploit, and thus you have to use SunShine. That's about all I know about it.

update AT&T variant to the latest Nougat ROM from HTC?

i just bought a used, AT&T variant HTC One A9 from eBay. the seller said that the phone is unlocked, and when i put my Rogers SIM card, it works fine. however, when i go to the bootloader menu (by pressing the volume down and power button simultaneously), the following information appears on the screen after the phone boots:
hTC download mode
*** LOCKED ***
htc_hiaeul PVT S-ON
LK-1.0.0.0000
[email protected]
OpenDSP-6.8.5.00190-8952_1013
OS-1.27.502.5
Nov 12 2015, 15:40:38(656287)
it's interesting that it says "LOCKED" (which i am assuming to mean bootloader-locked and not carrier-locked). unfortunately i didn't know that AT&T variants are not going to get any more updates before buying this phone. i am looking for guides on how to unlock an AT&T A9 and how to update it to the latest Android available for this phone. i am not interested in 3rd party ROMs and only would like to use original HTC ROMs, but updated to Nougat.
could anybody point me to the correct set of instructions to unlock the bootloader, (probably do a S-OFF, if needed), and install the latest HTC ROM for One A9? (FYI, i am comfortable with command line utilities and have previously rooted my HTC One S.)

I did this to my AT&T One A9 not to long ago, I got tired of waiting for AT&T to update the phone to Nougat.
Go here: https://www.htcdev.com/ and follow the instructions to unlock the bootloader.
S-Off using Sunshine (how I did it).
Change CID and MID to the appropriate values.
Flash latest RUU.
Not too bad a process all in all.

^ great! thank you very much.
did you flash an official HTC ROM or a custom ROM? and how do you find your phone with Nougat, in terms of compatibility/bugs/etc.?
i noticed that there is an option called "OEM Unlocking" in the Settings. i am guessing that i should check that option before proceeding with the unlocking process, am i right?

darxider said:
i am guessing that i should check that option before proceeding with the unlocking process, am i right?
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Right
Also note that if you are going to flash a Nougat RUU, you'll need to update your firmware to 2.xx.xxx.x before flashing a 2.xx.xxx.x RUU. See the FAQ #4 in the RUU thread. ATM, this is only required when upgrading from M to N or when downgrading from N to M using a RUU.

alray said:
Right
Also note that if you are going to flash a Nougat RUU, you'll need to update your firmware to 2.xx.xxx.x before flashing a 2.xx.xxx.x RUU. See the FAQ #4 in the RUU thread. ATM, this is only required when upgrading from M to N or when downgrading from N to M using a RUU.
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When I converted my phone to a retail unlocked version the Nougat update hadn't been released yet, so I actually got an OTA from 6.0.1 to 7.0 which did the firmware update for me. It should be possible for people to do the same thing if they are patient. But yeah I'm not entirely sure if I'd wait right now either.

megatomic said:
When I converted my phone to a retail unlocked version the Nougat update hadn't been released yet, so I actually got an OTA from 6.0.1 to 7.0 which did the firmware update for me. It should be possible for people to do the same thing if they are patient. But yeah I'm not entirely sure if I'd wait right now either.
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thanks for the info. but could you elaborate on what you mean by "...if they are patient"?

darxider said:
thanks for the info. but could you elaborate on what you mean by "...if they are patient"?
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It's possible to force the situation by flashing directly to a Nougat version but first you have to manually flash the firmware to the 2.x version before you can do that. I'm finding out the hard way that flashing the firmware is not a simple task like it is on devices like the OnePlus One.

^ ah, i see. so if i understood correctly, if i just convert my A9 from AT&T to retail (dev?) version but stay with Marshmellow and not do the switch to Nougat, i would be getting a OTA Nougat update which will take care of everything automatically, right?

That's what happened to my phone. I did the same exact thing.

I'm in the same situation, how exactly did you change from at&t to retail version?