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hi,..
i want to ask,..is it possible to tracing our O3D if its stolen? i mean not with 3rd party app installed(i.e. seekdroid, etc), but with google account or market account that connected with the device, or if there's any other way,..
my friend just lost his O3D, just want to help him if its possible.
thanks.
Why not with a third-party app? Can you not remotely install a third-party app for that purpose?
I doubt there is any other way.
I've never done it but my friend has installed apps remotely but dont think that would help the op as you have to run tracking apps and don't think remote installs would auto run.
You could report the theft and block the phone, and here in uk I know police can track sims if not payg ones so might help find it that way.
Dave
Thx guys for your reply. Yes i thought it can be trace by using 3rd party program, but unfortunately the phone is gone before "he" install anything (just got unboxing). Police here can also trace the signal of the simcard by using cooperation from the sim operator, but it takes much much time. I guess theres no other way yet then to be prepare before something like this happen.
thanks.
edit : btw, can you tell ke how to block the phone?
Thanks again.
just use a 3rd party tracking app.
Lookout made an app called Plan B that's for the purpose of tracking your phone even if you forgot to install a tracking app.
Here's the link.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lookout.labs.planb
You can give it a try.
DevJackey said:
just use a 3rd party tracking app.
Lookout made an app called Plan B that's for the purpose of tracking your phone even if you forgot to install a tracking app.
Here's the link.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lookout.labs.planb
You can give it a try.
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Thanks m8, i will give it a try.
Hey,
jsut thought about this thought the whole day. I´ve got a Moto XT720 (Stock ROM) and it works pretty good. Now the thing is, I have the Google Account and so on. But I do not want that Google is tracking me, has access to my phone, and that my phone can connect to google servers (Mail, Calendar, Market, SYSTEM).
Is it possible that I can delete some apk´s so that I have a real standalone mobile phone?
Sorry for my bad english,
greetings
you gotta be kidding
Google's stuff is the spirit of their OS... Android needs google's account for the market moreover.
sounds a little impossible. just make an account for the market and don't use it for anything else. Only thing i can think of.
Exactly, but he wants remove google's apps too...
He wants a total googleapplicationless Android phone. What a problem !
Thanks guys,
I do not need the market also (for what?, I have the apps I want to use)
Greets
push..no one knows it?
If you do any web browsing on any device even on a pc or iphone google and bing etc will track data about you. You can't use any device online without someone tracking you unless you use a proxy and even then the proxy could still track you.
You can delete or freeze googles apps but browsing will be tracked on any online device so only sure way is switch off wifi and mobile data.
But that defeats the point of a smartphone then.
Dave
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Maybe you should forget mobiles cause anytime you're tracked as soon as you power it on
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a guess, flash a custom rom and dont flash the google apps pack?
ICS, at least stock ICS, has the ability to disable system apps.
Settings -> Apps (under 'Device) -> 'All' tab, click an app, click "Disable". It won't be uninstalled, but it will never run, meaning it cannot connect to the internet or do anything else.
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ICS, at least stock ICS, has the ability to disable system apps.
Settings -> Apps (under 'Device) -> 'All' tab, click an app, click "Disable". It won't be uninstalled, but it will never run, meaning it cannot connect to the internet or do anything else.
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The problem is if he ever uses internet he will still be tracked. If he uses gps his location can also be tracked.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
The problem is if he ever uses internet he will still be tracked. If he uses gps his location can also be tracked.
Dave
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Yeah, it's a very strange request, but he could disable all internet-capable apps, and just use his phone for voice and offline apps?
He could still use GPS though, but not A-GPS. GPS just receives the signal from the satellites, this is why you can still log your position while off the cell network. It's one-way communication, so there's no way to be tracked just by listening to the GPS signal. He could download maps to the phone and use it for navigation that way.
Don't get an Android phone is my advice if you want no connection to Google.
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I agree, why would you use an google operating system, if you don't want to have any connection with google?
Android without the Android market is pretty dull, and even if you would use the amazon appstore (which is officially only working in the US/and maybe CAN) you would be stuck with only a fractal of not up to date apps, since in the amazon app store are alot of old versions flying around.
And please dont believe in the old google creep, who is sitting in front of the "internet" waiting is whole life only to set cookies in your browser. He does not exists!
I don't understand why you would want Android on your mobile device and not want google on it? Thats how smartphones work, if you don't want google on your phone I suggest you get a non smart phone.
Why so much hostility? Isn't the point of Android, and these forums, that it is so customizable? Maybe he doesn't like the new privacy policy.
Anyways, he could disable all Gapps and install Firefox or whatever, which would disconnect most of your connection to Google, but it's hard to avoid it if you want to use the internet at all.
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Why so much hostility? Isn't the point of Android, and these forums, that it is so customizable? Maybe he doesn't like the new privacy policy.
Anyways, he could disable all Gapps and install Firefox or whatever, which would disconnect most of your connection to Google, but it's hard to avoid it if you want to use the internet at all.
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I don't think anyone's been hostile, just surprised maybe as seems op wants no tracking yet to be able to use internet which can't be done except at best through a proxy.
To the op, you can root and uninstall or freeze google apps and browse via a public proxy server if you want to avoid tracking but your carrier and possibly google (the main operating systems all record your gps data inc ios android and wp7, think only wp7 was found collecting that though which is why I say possibly not probably) can still see where you have physically been via cell, gps and wifi logs.
If its just google you wish to avoid another option could be use a firewall or dns blacklist app to stop your device being able to connect to known google internet addresses.
Dave
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miro101 said:
And please dont believe in the old google creep, who is sitting in front of the "internet" waiting is whole life only to set cookies in your browser. He does not exists!
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Actually, he does:
http://www.stateofsearch.com/top-15-of-eric-schmidts-remarkable-quotes/
If you don't know by now that all of the "free" apps aren't really free, you're kidding yourself. How do you think Google makes money? It's primary purpose is collecting information. Private informtaion (even the carriers...search on the term "carrier IQ"). That is the age we live in. The best that can be done is to either throw your phone away or learn how to secure your phone and info in as much as is possible. There are apps that can identify what apps are sending what data and block them from doing so (on rooted phones). Even then, data still gets out. It's a trade-off. For now, it's used for marketting purposes. However, that much data is bound to fall into the hands of some government who will use it to control the masses. It's just too tempting, and it's the nature of humanity. So, I'll limit whatever data exodus I can and accept the trade-off for the rest (until the government {read Anti-Christ} wrests control). The old saying applies: "It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you".
I honestly don't get the point in using a smartphone with fears of being 'monitored' or tracked. If you don't want to be tracked, don't use the internet, don't use a cell phone, and live under a rock for the rest of your life. That's the best advice I can offer.
Is there an app that will allow you to locate your phone from your computer if its lost? Just wanna install all these things on my phone right now for precautions so I never lose it or if i do I can find it
PS: Not only an app that allows you to locate your phone but an app that also lets you wipe memory or lock the phone from your computer if you don't want people going through your personal files? (Free App or one time buy please, I'm not trying to pay monthly.)
I don't know about that but u can track ur phone using AVG antivirus via google maps..it also can lock and wipe ur phone by sending a message(need to activate anti-theft), for more information download the app and try.
Lookout
You should look into lookout app, it'll let you do all that.
You can also try Find My Phone, it's free in google play.
Hi all, I work at a group home and one of the clients recently purchased an Amazon Fire tablet to facebook chat with his dad.
My issue is that thanks to the crapiness of humanity I know that there's a strong potential for the tablet to grow legs.
Without getting into details, the client cannot have the tablet always in their posession, and we can't conveniently lock it down anywhere, and ideally whoever is supporting him needs to have access to the tablet whenever possible.
I'm wondering if there is an app, or even better, a device, which can cause the tablet to alert my manager the moment the device leaves the property? Ideally something not easily accessed or removed.
I know getting a tablet just for facebook chat is overkill, I wasn't the one who purchased it for the client, I'm just trying to make do with what is available.
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Hi all, I work at a group home and one of the clients recently purchased an Amazon Fire tablet to facebook chat with his dad.
My issue is that thanks to the crapiness of humanity I know that there's a strong potential for the tablet to grow legs.
Without getting into details, the client cannot have the tablet always in their posession, and we can't conveniently lock it down anywhere, and ideally whoever is supporting him needs to have access to the tablet whenever possible.
I'm wondering if there is an app, or even better, a device, which can cause the tablet to alert my manager the moment the device leaves the property? Ideally something not easily accessed or removed.
I know getting a tablet just for facebook chat is overkill, I wasn't the one who purchased it for the client, I'm just trying to make do with what is available.
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It's an Android right?
I had a look at the Amazon store for anti-theft apps but there were none that I recognised from sources I trust (nit that I have researched them, but maybe you can find a reliable review) You have to be certain it's from a trusted source as these type of apps require special permissions eg admin in order to do their job, and could be abused by a malicious app.
I would recommend Cerberus Anti Theft, I used them for years & they have a good reputation, even though Google removed the app form play store. This is because they had to link the Google app to additional downloads in order to maintain the functionality of the app that made it the best, after Google changed what permissions apps could be granted for apps downloaded from Google store.
You can download for Android devices from their website
https://www.cerberusapp.com/
However there is a potential problem with all antitheft apps, ie. Turning off wifi/data means you can't communicate with it(but Cerberus could be activated via SMS), also a factory reset will remove them, so if a knowledgeable person steals a phone/tablet they can remove the antitheft app, so possibly you would have limited time to activate it. Which is why I used to root & install as a system app, which meant only reinstalling the full factory Android operating system to remove it.
There should be the basic "fined my device" on Android built in (I'm not familiar with Amazon variants) but its not very powerful.
I'll look into it, thanks. It does have tracking but unfortunately that wouldn't alert in time to be able to accurately determine who took it.
If Cerberus can do sms then my manager might be able to get immediate notification if it walks away, once it disconnects from wifi
What I don't get is why isn't there a hardware based solution, something that you have connected to your wifi that alerts you if devices in connected to that wifi signal get disconnected. Or even simpler, bluetooth based.
The problem is that tablets don't all have data, and if turned off they lose the anti theft features. So there needs to be something outside of the device itself that can alert the owner. Maybe it's just to specific a problem unfortunately.
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What I don't get is why isn't there a hardware based solution, something that you have connected to your wifi that alerts you if devices in connected to that wifi signal get disconnected. Or even simpler, bluetooth based.
The problem is that tablets don't all have data, and if turned off they lose the anti theft features. So there needs to be something outside of the device itself that can alert the owner. Maybe it's just to specific a problem unfortunately.
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PS. You could use Tasker app (or other automation app) on your phone to set up an alert when the tablet losses connection, if you use your phone as a hotspot, I think.
My banking app stopped working 30mins ago and after I nuked the data/cache and got it working again. I caught the app asking for new permissions that I don't believe it asked for before
telephoneManager/getSimOperatorName - in my case o2
settings.Secure.getstring/android_id - same as asking for the serial, why does my bank need this.
PackageManager.getindstalledPackages - wtf does it need to know what apps are on my personal phone?
NetworkInfo.getextrainfo - why does it need to know who my data provider is?
AdvertisingClient$Info.getid - why the actual f*** does a banking app or my bank need my advertising id.
TelephonyManager/getNetworkOperatorName - asking who my operator again, why.
Fabric.with/Kits - not quite sure what this is, cant find anything beyond its something to do with android SDK.
I am emailing my bank app support to see if I can get some straight answers, but in the meantime can someone tell me what "Fabric.with/Kits" is and why the app would be asking for this permission?
b1k3rdude said:
My banking app stopped working 30mins ago and after I nuked the data/cache and got it working again. I caught the app asking for new permissions that I don't believe it asked for before
telephoneManager/getSimOperatorName - in my case o2
settings.Secure.getstring/android_id - same as asking for the serial, why does my bank need this.
PackageManager.getindstalledPackages - wtf does it need to know what apps are on my personal phone?
NetworkInfo.getextrainfo - why does it need to know who my data provider is?
AdvertisingClient$Info.getid - why the actual f*** does a banking app or my bank need my advertising id.
TelephonyManager/getNetworkOperatorName - asking who my operator again, why.
Fabric.with/Kits - not quite sure what this is, cant find anything beyond its something to do with android SDK.
I am emailing my bank app support to see if I can get some straight answers, but in the meantime can someone tell me what "Fabric.with/Kits" is and why the app would be asking for this permission?
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Yes, seems like a lot of unnecessary permissions, I'd be suspicions also. Though they might be using those permissions to increase security by "fingerprinting" your phone, thus making it harder for someone to impersonate you, though you can change your advertisers ID on newer Android versions, so maybe not! Or app legitimately need that info for some other reason. Also app permission fall into 2 categories "normal" & "dangerous" you are not asked to approve normal ones only dangerous ones eg access to contacts, network access etc. I'm not a dev so not sure if they have been moved to a new category now & that is why you are seeing them now. Maybe permissions added by bank legitimately but on other hand seem excessive to me.
The Fabric one might be OK as fabric is a module framework that uses kits & is used by some developers to implement crashlytics etc, but guess some kits could be used maliciously. (Google are pushing devs form Fabric to Firebase)
But if suspicions give that app a scan with a good security app (not that this proves app is safe!) Try the Sophos security app, its free, might identify if malicious but also gives a nice summary of permissions granted to all your apps.