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My wife just called me on a landline to say her Samsung Galaxy S2 I9100 has gone missing. She was working in a tiny charity bookshop, so it was easy to check that it wasn't just dropped, and it goes straight to voicemail. It was double PIN protected on both device and SIM.
It was on Android 4.0.1 - I know, I know, she wouldn't allow me to upgrade it.
Question - I know from experience of flashing a new ROM that Google insists on entering the Google account details again to verify proper ownership. Is this a general Android security procedure, or does it work only on Lollipop/Marshmallow?
Just asking because it will be of some small comfort to know that the thieving scum has a paperweight rather than a phone...
dahawthorne said:
I know from experience of flashing a new ROM that Google insists on entering the Google account details again to verify proper ownership.
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Incorrect.
I was hoping for something a bit more concrete than that. And it is correct. When I've done a full reset of my phone to flash a new ROM I get "This device has been reset. Please enter your Google credentials" or words to that effect.
I'm happy to have the response, but can someone please give me a sensible one based on knowledge and not guesswork?
dahawthorne said:
I was hoping for something a bit more concrete than that. And it is correct. When I've done a full reset of my phone to flash a new ROM I get "This device has been reset. Please enter your Google credentials" or words to that effect.
I'm happy to have the response, but can someone please give me a sensible one based on knowledge and not guesswork?
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Oh hey look... no Google account!
You're the one operating on guesswork assuming a Google account is mandatory to use an Android device.
Look, guy, if you have no useful advice to offer me then quit wasting my time...
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Well, am I surprised? I think I'll pass on that offer...
You asked about when a security measure was introduced in Android. I informed you that no such security measure exists.
There is a disconnect between what you want to believe and the reality. First, you refused to accept it. Now, you're angry at me because you have no choice but to accept it.
You want reassurances because of your situation? There is none to be offered here.
dahawthorne said:
My wife just called me on a landline to say her Samsung Galaxy S2 I9100 has gone missing. She was working in a tiny charity bookshop, so it was easy to check that it wasn't just dropped, and it goes straight to voicemail. It was double PIN protected on both device and SIM.
It was on Android 4.0.1 - I know, I know, she wouldn't allow me to upgrade it.
Question - I know from experience of flashing a new ROM that Google insists on entering the Google account details again to verify proper ownership. Is this a general Android security procedure, or does it work only on Lollipop/Marshmallow?
Just asking because it will be of some small comfort to know that the thieving scum has a paperweight rather than a phone...
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Unless your carrier has a service that allows imei blacklisting, there is nothing you can do. Even if they do, you'll need a solid proof of ownership and that the phone wasn't just lost. If your wife lost her phone, in most cases there is no obligation on the part of the finder to return it. Any other measure won't do anything, as the device could be wiped clean of everything.
Thanks. optimumpro. My service provider has blocked the phone and the SIM, so with any luck the scumbag will get no joy from it. It's also reported with its IMEI on a website (immobilise.com) which the police refer to when items are recovered.
As to my original question, I believe that the function I mentioned started with Android 5.1, so if the thief has the tech knowledge he/she can probably wipe it and install a new ROM, though I hope the IMEI block will prevent use even with other providers.
Pity - it was a nice little phone - my first smartphone.
And thanks for providing a sensible answer - appreciated.
dahawthorne said:
Thanks. optimumpro. My service provider has blocked the phone and the SIM, so with any luck the scumbag will get no joy from it. It's also reported with its IMEI on a website (immobilise.com) which the police refer to when items are recovered.
As to my original question, I believe that the function I mentioned started with Android 5.1, so if the thief has the tech knowledge he/she can probably wipe it and install a new ROM, though I hope the IMEI block will prevent use even with other providers.
Pity - it was a nice little phone - my first smartphone.
And thanks for providing a sensible answer - appreciated.
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You may want to check ebay, because the phone can be sold to someone from another country. So, with luck you may catch the guy...
Hey all, firstly, sorry this is a rushed post but I'm hoping I can get some advice and pointed in the right direction. I'll start by saying I'm fairly experienced in tech and with Android.
So, a family member was having problem with her new android phone (Samsung J ... 6, 5 or something, I can find out) so I said I'd just do a factory reset - there was nothing on there she was worried about losing).
Long story short, this new security feature (if stolen) where you can't just factory reset has completely screwed me over. They are not tech orientated and can not remember the original google login they made, and barely half of the security questions to remember the original google account. I just want to cry. What was a basic factory reset has turned out to looking like I've 'bricked' their phone. I obviously haven't but it doesn't look good. I've read there's an APK to skip this google sign in step, and I feel competent to do it, but I feel like things can only get worse by this point. There is still hope to reset the google account, but what is your experience using this skip sign in APK. It sounds too easy, for would be thieves, and I don't trust it much. I'm thinking this has gone far enough, I should just tell her to take it back to the provider (EE UK) She's only had it a month. Any idea if they can do this in store or it'll be sent off. Any other words of advice with this skip sign in APK; pulling hair out, thanks
EDIT: Am I right in thinking I can't contact google any further to get the original account back?
whatsoup said:
Hey all, firstly, sorry this is a rushed post but I'm hoping I can get some advice and pointed in the right direction. I'll start by saying I'm fairly experienced in tech and with Android.
So, a family member was having problem with her new android phone (Samsung J ... 6, 5 or something, I can find out) so I said I'd just do a factory reset - there was nothing on there she was worried about losing).
Long story short, this new security feature (if stolen) where you can't just factory reset has completely screwed me over. They are not tech orientated and can not remember the original google login they made, and barely half of the security questions to remember the original google account. I just want to cry. What was a basic factory reset has turned out to looking like I've 'bricked' their phone. I obviously haven't but it doesn't look good. I've read there's an APK to skip this google sign in step, and I feel competent to do it, but I feel like things can only get worse by this point. There is still hope to reset the google account, but what is your experience using this skip sign in APK. It sounds too easy, for would be thieves, and I don't trust it much. I'm thinking this has gone far enough, I should just tell her to take it back to the provider (EE UK) She's only had it a month. Any idea if they can do this in store or it'll be sent off. Any other words of advice with this skip sign in APK; pulling hair out, thanks
EDIT: Am I right in thinking I can't contact google any further to get the original account back?
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Greetings!
Thank you for using XDA Assist.
Having the correct phone model would be helpful here because there are different methods available for fixing this issue. Google will be of no help whatsoever. You can try to bring the device to an authorized Samsung repair center, if available. Also I do recommend bringing it back to the original place of purchase.
Good luck!
Thanks for your reply and sorry for mine being so slow. I guess I'm on my own with this one, but if you can point me to the most favoured guide for a Samsung J36 (I think that is J3 (6) I would appreciate it.
The APK method seems seems easy enough but I'm really worried it has been patched out, seeing as it's a relatively new phone. The last thing I want to do is make it worse. Could you advise how safe the APK method is? usual disclaimers aside
I went into EE today and they weren't much help; they said there's not much they can do, which I don't believe, if we can prove the phone is from them, only a month ago. Thanks for your help. Stress :S
whatsoup said:
Thanks for your reply and sorry for mine being so slow. I guess I'm on my own with this one, but if you can point me to the most favoured guide for a Samsung J36 (I think that is J3 (6) I would appreciate it.
The APK method seems seems easy enough but I'm really worried it has been patched out, seeing as it's a relatively new phone. The last thing I want to do is make it worse. Could you advise how safe the APK method is? usual disclaimers aside
I went into EE today and they weren't much help; they said there's not much they can do, which I don't believe, if we can prove the phone is from them, only a month ago. Thanks for your help. Stress :S
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I haven't seen one for the J3 specifically, as there isn't a specific forum for that model on XDA. May I recommend doing a search to see what turns up. I know that official Samsung repair centers can fix this problem.
Will do, thanks. I wanted to avoid paying for a fix but if it keeps things safe, so be it. I'd have to travel so hopefully they'd do it on the spot. ty
Hi,
I am kinda new to the forum. And I am a little lost with the phone.
My step-father gave me his Pixel 3, as a gift. However, my step-dad has a pretty wicked sense of humor. He gave me the phone, but he didn't entirely log out of the phone. When I turned on the phone, it turned out that the phone is FRP locked. I asked him for the damn pin code, but he rebuked that, unlocking it is part of the learning curve, and I will value this phone more.
In the past few days, I was googling every possible exploit I could find there. Just to learn that phone is running Android Q, so nothing really works. (You can see my dad is a wicked person).
I understand that I have flash new software, but any ideas how could I do that? I have absolutely no clue how what to do. I downloaded Android Studio, but I don't even know what to do with that software. I a complete noob, to that.
What I managed to establish is that the phone has dev options turned off. It's running Android Q from April this year, and device in fastboot mode says the device is locked.
I will be grateful for any tips. I wanna see shocked face of my step dad.
Shadowmidnightedge said:
Hi,
I am kinda new to the forum. And I am a little lost with the phone.
My step-father gave me his Pixel 3, as a gift. However, my step-dad has a pretty wicked sense of humor. He gave me the phone, but he didn't entirely log out of the phone. When I turned on the phone, it turned out that the phone is FRP locked. I asked him for the damn pin code, but he rebuked that, unlocking it is part of the learning curve, and I will value this phone more.
In the past few days, I was googling every possible exploit I could find there. Just to learn that phone is running Android Q, so nothing really works. (You can see my dad is a wicked person).
I understand that I have flash new software, but any ideas how could I do that? I have absolutely no clue how what to do. I downloaded Android Studio, but I don't even know what to do with that software. I a complete noob, to that.
What I managed to establish is that the phone has dev options turned off. It's running Android Q from April this year, and device in fastboot mode says the device is locked.
I will be grateful for any tips. I wanna see shocked face of my step dad.
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If say give it back to the rightful owner. You won't get any help here trying to hack into someone else's phone.
Either your story is BS, or he is an idiot and doesn't understand FRP. I'll pretend that the story isn't BS however unlikely, and tell you to get the PIN/PW. Otherwise, take your losses on whatever you paid for the stolen phone.
He guys, I just stole a phone, can you help me launder this phone? - Is the honest question here I suspect.
If not, you should be able to get the password from the person who last used it.
First, thank you, everyone, for the replies. Second I would like to reply to some concerns, that were raised here, So to address the biggest elephant in the room, the phone was not stolen. my stepdad simply has a strange sense of humor and he likes to torture me with his ''jokes''. This would be one of them. He gave me a locked phone on purpose thinking it would be funny, watching me twiddling with the phone for hours, until I would come to him begging him for a password. Which already happened yesterday. The phone is now, working as it should be. The third thing I wanna mention is the fact that at the time of writing this post, I was pretty confused about the whole situation. I didn't realize fully what is FRP, . It was the first time when I heard about it in my life. All my life I had Samsung phones, and never before I had to deal with something like FRP. I simply thought it was another stupid joke of my stepdad..
I am a person, who likes challenges, and the fact that my stepdad has pulled another number on me made my desperation, but defeat him, even bigger, I am rather a tech literate, so having him challenging me on unlocking this phone rubbed my ego wrong way. I apologize for causing any disturbance here.
Shadowmidnightedge said:
First, thank you, everyone, for the replies. Second I would like to reply to some concerns, that were raised here, So to address the biggest elephant in the room, the phone was not stolen. my stepdad simply has a strange sense of humor and he likes to torture me with his ''jokes''. This would be one of them. He gave me a locked phone on purpose thinking it would be funny, watching me twiddling with the phone for hours, until I would come to him begging him for a password. Which already happened yesterday. The phone is now, working as it should be. The third thing I wanna mention is the fact that at the time of writing this post, I was pretty confused about the whole situation. I didn't realize fully what is FRP, . It was the first time when I heard about it in my life. All my life I had Samsung phones, and never before I had to deal with something like FRP. I simply thought it was another stupid joke of my stepdad..
I am a person, who likes challenges, and the fact that my stepdad has pulled another number on me made my desperation, but defeat him, even bigger, I am rather a tech literate, so having him challenging me on unlocking this phone rubbed my ego wrong way. I apologize for causing any disturbance here.
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If this is legit then post the IMEI of the phone and take a pic of the phone box with the matching IMEI or a screenshot of the order email / receipt
Ak7J4 said:
If this is legit then post the IMEI of the phone and take a pic of the phone box with the matching IMEI or a screenshot of the order email / receipt
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For what purpose? He already said he got the P/W and it is working. He didn't ask anything else and simply said "thanks."
Thread closed as the Op doesn't require any additional assistance.
Second of all if you can help then please do so... if you think something isn't right hit report and move ahead.
Thanks
SacredDeviL666
Hi guys,
I'm a new user, I have a problem to which, when talking to a friend, he recommended me to register here and ask about my issue, as there seems to be plenty Android Experts that may be able to provide me a straight answer or give me hope.
My dad just passed away, I still can't believe it happened, given the fact that he wasn't too old... but going back on topic, his phone is a Redmi Note 4 that I ordered him around two years ago, he lived abroad and was a regular user, he never messed up with settings or anything, just stock MIUI with the updates that were sent as far as he mentioned me last time we could speak about his phone. What I would like to know is if it would be possible to recover his phone data, what me and my sisters care for the most are his pictures, we want to recover them and save them in a place where we have access to.
However, while searching on many websites, there are many Android Data Recovery software but they always request me to enable the USB debugging, but it is impossible for me, as the phone has a Pattern/Fingerprint lock.
Also, found several software that claim to remove your screen lock without deleting the device contents but when I'm going to the unlock step, there is a prompt that I have to confirm to delete all the information. And I've downloaded more than five software for each, the last one I downloaded is called Dr. Fone from Wondershare; I sent an email to them asking if I have to purchase the product to get that feature but I have not received any reply yet.
Basically, the phone is locked without USB Debugging, and I cannot access the files in the phone which is all we want.
Does anyone knows of a way to unlock it?
I'd even pay if it is necessary, I just haven't purchased the software mentioned above because I can't find if they are real or are just scam, there isn't like much information about them. Or has anyone purchased or successfully used any of those softwares?
The model is a Redmi Note 4 I believe it was the Global Version, with MIUI 8.1, but I'm not sure.
I'm getting a bit frustrated, maybe my dad doesn't want us to unlock his phone and that is why I cannot find a way, but I would like to know if it is possible.
I really appreciate your time, I'm sorry for the long text, if there is anything that maybe I'm missing, please let me know.
Thanks in advance
Javier
Thjavo said:
Hi guys,
I'm a new user, I have a problem to which, when talking to a friend, he recommended me to register here and ask about my issue, as there seems to be plenty Android Experts that may be able to provide me a straight answer or give me hope.
My dad just passed away, I still can't believe it happened, given the fact that he wasn't too old... but going back on topic, his phone is a Redmi Note 4 that I ordered him around two years ago, he lived abroad and was a regular user, he never messed up with settings or anything, just stock MIUI with the updates that were sent as far as he mentioned me last time we could speak about his phone. What I would like to know is if it would be possible to recover his phone data, what me and my sisters care for the most are his pictures, we want to recover them and save them in a place where we have access to.
However, while searching on many websites, there are many Android Data Recovery software but they always request me to enable the USB debugging, but it is impossible for me, as the phone has a Pattern/Fingerprint lock.
Also, found several software that claim to remove your screen lock without deleting the device contents but when I'm going to the unlock step, there is a prompt that I have to confirm to delete all the information. And I've downloaded more than five software for each, the last one I downloaded is called Dr. Fone from Wondershare; I sent an email to them asking if I have to purchase the product to get that feature but I have not received any reply yet.
Basically, the phone is locked without USB Debugging, and I cannot access the files in the phone which is all we want.
Does anyone knows of a way to unlock it?
I'd even pay if it is necessary, I just haven't purchased the software mentioned above because I can't find if they are real or are just scam, there isn't like much information about them. Or has anyone purchased or successfully used any of those softwares?
The model is a Redmi Note 4 I believe it was the Global Version, with MIUI 8.1, but I'm not sure.
I'm getting a bit frustrated, maybe my dad doesn't want us to unlock his phone and that is why I cannot find a way, but I would like to know if it is possible.
I really appreciate your time, I'm sorry for the long text, if there is anything that maybe I'm missing, please let me know.
Thanks in advance
Javier
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I understand your situation, I lost my father a few years ago. It is possible to recover the data from your dad's phone, but, unfortunately, it is against the forum rules here to help with cracking a phone to retrieve data that does not belong to you. The reason why it is against the rules, even in your unfortunate situation, is because anything we tell you could be seen and used by other people to break into devices that do not belong to them.
Another factor is, we don't know if what you tell us is actually true or not. That does not mean that you are deceiving us, it just means we have no way of knowing and we can't just take your word for it.
These reasons make it unacceptable for anyone in this forum to help you. It's all about security and maintaining security, regardless of the situation, and it is somewhat a legal issue. Helping crack the device could be a liability against XDA or the members helping you. A member or user can choose to compromise their own security but we can't help with devices that are not theirs.
It is best if you didn't ask this question here and it is pointless for you to try making another thread about this issue with different wording because all of your threads and posts can be viewed from your user profile page. It is also pointless to try making another username to post this issue again with different wording because the moderators and Admin can see that it is still you with a different name.
I know it sucks, but anyone that helps you will be violating the forum rules. I'm not saying that you can't get this done, I'm just saying no one HERE can legitimately help you. I would try linking you to other places that can help you, but even that might be pushing the rules a bit.
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each device has a google account (and maybe a xiaomi account). you can check from PC if there is the google password saved in browser. if not, each google account has a fallback email address where you may be able to request a (google) password reset. from google you can lock the phone with temporary password, then unlock the screen with temporary password. if you recently changed the google password before, you need to wait at least 72 hours with internet connection. besides this you can check photos.google.com or drive.google.com for any backups.
without knowing the google account, you still can try to bruteforce the pattern with Teensy or Hak5 USB Rubber Ducky microcontroller connected via USB OTG adapter. if the phone does not support USB OTG there are more expensive solutions like XPIN Clip (this is just a common hint, the important part is the code for microcontroller which i don't share here). also there might be a chance to flash TWRP custom recovery in EDL Mode without unlocking the bootloader or factory reset via exploit, and TWRP might be able to decrypt userdata partition with default_password
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My sister ran away yesterday evening and she has no phone on her to track, but she left what appears to be a Samsung j3 behind that she used before she left. This could be what saves her life, I very much need XDAs help here. I have rooted and messed with phones and Odin around 5 years ago so I am very rusty with this stuff. Could someone please guide me on recovering her phones data and/or bypassing the lockscreen?
I S 3 5 0 said:
My sister ran away yesterday evening and she has no phone on her to track, but she left what appears to be a Samsung j3 behind that she used before she left. This could be what saves her life, I very much need XDAs help here. I have rooted and messed with phones and Odin around 5 years ago so I am very rusty with this stuff. Could someone please guide me on recovering her phones data and/or bypassing the lockscreen?
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Specific model? A while ago on some models you could flash twrp and work to avoid it.
As for bypassing the lock screen, I would suggest not trying to unlock it, some people use the settings so that after enough wrong attempts to unlock the phone, it factory resets.
If the data inside the phone is a priority, take it to a specialist or the relevant authorities ASAP.
I do not suggest trying twrp as in this case, damaging the phone could bring serious
consequences
ThatLatinGuy said:
Specific model? A while ago on some models you could flash twrp and work to avoid it.
As for bypassing the lock screen, I would suggest not trying to unlock it, some people use the settings so that after enough wrong attempts to unlock the phone, it factory resets.
If the data inside the phone is a priority, take it to a specialist or the relevant authorities ASAP.
I do not suggest trying twrp as in this case, damaging the phone could bring serious
consequences
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I would agree to hand it to the authorities, but the cops already existing 24 hour missing person rule has already killed so many children. I sincerely doubt the phone would find the right hands to access the data within a week, the professionals are right here on the internet across the world.
How do I find out the specific model? Would that be in a safe boot screen? For extra info, it has a removable rear cover and battery.
But what you are saying is there is no way to bypass the lock screen even with twrp?
Based on info I gathered from her search history on her school laptop, she could be on a greyhound. I've already told the authorities but they are quite slow at their job. Time is of the essence with this. Thank you for replying
I S 3 5 0 said:
I would agree to hand it to the authorities, but the cops already existing 24 hour missing person rule has already killed so many children. I sincerely doubt the phone would find the right hands to access the data within a week, the professionals are right here on the internet across the world.
How do I find out the specific model? Would that be in a safe boot screen? For extra info, it has a removable rear cover and battery.
But what you are saying is there is no way to bypass the lock screen even with twrp?
Based on info I gathered from her search history on her school laptop, she could be on a greyhound. I've already told the authorities but they are quite slow at their job. Time is of the essence with this. Thank you for replying
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Turn the phone off , take the battery out , it should have something written on it like
smj30km
In some older models and versions you could use twrp to explore the contents of the phone , and even edit the system files to remove the lock , you cannot remove the google account this way mind you .
However given the stakes I again suggest against it as if something goes wrong , the phone will be wiped.
If you wish to do so anyway I will leave the links to the posts , but I will not be able to help if something goes wrong.
ThatLatinGuy said:
Turn the phone off , take the battery out , it should have something written on it like
smj30km
In some older models and versions you could use twrp to explore the contents of the phone , and even edit the system files to remove the lock , you cannot remove the google account this way mind you .
However given the stakes I again suggest against it as if something goes wrong , the phone will be wiped.
If you wish to do so anyway I will leave the links to the posts , but I will not be able to help if something goes wrong.
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I forgot all the issues surrounding the google account. That pretty much leaves me with no options, I will have to just give it up to the authorities. Thank you for the good advice. Would it be appropriate to simply take this post down
I truly hope you cand find her , sorry if I came across as rude or not willing to help , but the fact that as you said , the phone is the only thing that may help you makes it difficult to recommend a twrp flash or even rooting the phone as this may damage it .
Wish you the best
ThatLatinGuy said:
Turn the phone off , take the battery out , it should have something written on it like
smj30km
In some older models and versions you could use twrp to explore the contents of the phone , and even edit the system files to remove the lock , you cannot remove the google account this way mind you .
However given the stakes I again suggest against it as if something goes wrong , the phone will be wiped.
If you wish to do so anyway I will leave the links to the posts , but I will not be able to help if something goes wrong.
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I forgot all the issues surrounding the google account. That pretty much leaves me with no options, I will have to just give it up to the authorities. Thank you for the good advice. Would it be appropriate to simply take this post down