Hi all,
i wonder if the P20 has different top speaker from P20 Pro or it's just a software locked feature that we don't have stereo speakers. I remember that in Nexus 5X the community unlocked top speaker so you could mod Nexus 5X to be in stereo. Maybe our P20 also could gain this feature because mono speaker is so annoying while watching movies or youtube clips
Feature you are talking about is usually made by mixer modding, which in case of Kirin Cpu's is different to exynos, or qualcomm. Anyways, if you have root, you can try making some dumps from your device, so we can see if there is anything we can mod, i have plans for kirin devices.
Any news of this ?
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Feature you are talking about is usually made by mixer modding, which in case of Kirin Cpu's is different to exynos, or qualcomm. Anyways, if you have root, you can try making some dumps from your device, so we can see if there is anything we can mod, i have plans for kirin devices.
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Now you've incorporated Kirin CPU's in your mod, I wonder if there's any chance of activating top speaker on the device for stereo playback?
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I can play the maximum volume on youtube without any problems.
but through the Spotify and huawei music player the sound is not good at top volume.
It sounds like the speaker is has explode or something.
for when I run with lower volume its sounds very good.
Should the sound be bad at the highest volume?
If the speaker was broken it would sound terrible on the lower volume too right?
Hope for good answer. And sorry for my bad english. Hope you could understand me // Tobias Sweden
Well there is a safety level for a reason...of course some distortion is bound to happen at higher volumes though i never had to use max volume for a song. I would suggest to use a good quality earpiece to match your needs
it isnt broken all speakers distort the sound as the volume increases
The speaker on honor 8 is awful, just use headphones if available, if not try to low the volume as much as possible
For the price you aren't going to get the best speakers on a mid range device. Even high end flagship devices with the exception of Nexus 6P and other device with front facing stereo speakers, don't have the best audio quality when it comes to the speakers on the device.
DarkGuyver said:
For the price you aren't going to get the best speakers on a mid range device. Even high end flagship devices with the exception of Nexus 6P and other device with front facing stereo speakers, don't have the best audio quality when it comes to the speakers on the device.
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That's makes me wonder, why huawei/honor don't put front facing speakers on their flagships?! I wish we had speakers on honor 8 just like the 6p
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That's makes me wonder, why huawei/honor don't put front facing speakers on their flagships?! I wish we had speakers on honor 8 just like the 6p
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Probably due to their own design preferences. When Huawei partnered up with Google to design the Nexus 6P, Google probably stated that they wanted stereo front facing speakers on it during the Nexus 6P's design process.
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Probably due to their own design preferences. When Huawei partnered up with Google to design the Nexus 6P, Google probably stated that they wanted stereo front facing speakers on it during the Nexus 6P's design process.
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Maybe, but I hope Huawei start using ff speakers in their flagships
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Maybe, but I hope Huawei start using ff speakers in their flagships
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You never know what device manufacturers will do in the future.
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You never know what device manufacturers will do in the future.
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Indeed
Hi!
I've been thinking about buying an external DAC for some time to improve the sound coming out of the P30 with headphones. I had several options via Bluetooth in "receiver mode": for example the FIIO BTR3 or the Shanling M0. (I'm not sure that any of these devices will work via USB C with the P30, maybe they will.)
My question is, since the P30 has analog audio output unlike the P30 Pro, in addition to Dolby Atmos, I understand that it must have an internal DAC. Today I was testing it with a high quality FLAC and the truth is that it don't hear anything wrong with the audio output, but no matter how much I look I don't find waht internal DAC carries the P30, all specs are very generic, like "Hi-Fi Dac", but nothing concrete.
Does anyone know what DAC carries? And the most important thing: will I improve the sound with some of these external DACS of low range or they are not worth it?
Thank you, regards.
The only info I have seen so far is on GSMArena, where they report "32-bit/384kHz audio". I don't think anyone has published what DAC was actually used (assuming it's not built in the Kirin 980 itself).
RMerlin said:
The only info I have seen so far is on GSMArena, where they report "32-bit/384kHz audio". I don't think anyone has published what DAC was actually used (assuming it's not built in the Kirin 980 itself).
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No, I'm pretty sure that Kirin 980 doesn't have an integrated DAC, not even the 970 had it, so the P20, P20 Pro and P30 Pro don't have analog output. If the P30 does, it's because it has its own DAC. The 960 did have a DAC and it is specified in the documentation.
"32-bit/384kHz audio", although it won't give us information about audio quality, it is very good numbers in terms of ability to handle files with that density. It's strange...
I'll keep investigating. I think it should have a good DAC, but I'm surprised that if it did, Huawei's marketing department wouldn't have taken advantage of this, instead, it seems like a secret subject.
Thanks.
Hi,
I was all over ZTE when their phones had front facing speakers, but they seemed to stop doing that stand-out differentiation. How is this new phone on that front (pun intended)?
Max.
davidmaxwaterman said:
Hi,
I was all over ZTE when their phones had front facing speakers, but they seemed to stop doing that stand-out differentiation. How is this new phone on that front (pun intended)?
Max.
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They're using the earpiece as a speaker for the stereo effect, although it is technically still stereo the top speaker is not as powerful!
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acervenky
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They're using the earpiece as a speaker for the stereo effect, although it is technically still stereo the top speaker is not as powerful!
Regards,
acervenky
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Hrm, interesting. The important thing about front-facing speakers, to me, is the reproduction of high frequencies, and I don't much care about stereo effect - in fact, I turn it off in the accessibility settings. I should probably give it a try to see how it sounds.
Thanks,
Max.
Sound really sucks. The Axon 7 leaves this in the dust when it comes too sound. I was hoping for something from ZTE with as good sound quality as the 7. Unless they make some changes, this will probably be my last ZTE phone.
jim262 said:
Sound really sucks. The Axon 7 leaves this in the dust when it comes too sound. I was hoping for something from ZTE with as good sound quality as the 7. Unless they make some changes, this will probably be my last ZTE phone.
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Agreed. The bottom firing speaker is not loud at all and is very tinny. The earpiece speaker is an absolute joke. I also had the Axon 7 and those speakers blow this phone away. That said, the speakers are about my only complaint with this phone aside from maybe lack of camera OIS.
xphyle1971 said:
Agreed. The bottom firing speaker is not loud at all and is very tinny. The earpiece speaker is an absolute joke. I also had the Axon 7 and those speakers blow this phone away. That said, the speakers are about my only complaint with this phone aside from maybe lack of camera OIS.
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While I totally agree this phone is pretty ordinary. Nothing about it says I have to have it. In fact, phones like the Realme X2 Pro, with a similar (actually cheaper) pricetag or the OnePlus 7T for a few bucks more, seem like better values.
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While I totally agree this phone is pretty ordinary. Nothing about it says I have to have it. In fact, phones like the Realme X2 Pro, with a similar (actually cheaper) pricetag or the OnePlus 7T for a few bucks more, seem like better values.
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True, but in the USA, most of the Realme, Redmi, Xiaomi phones don't support all the used LTE bands by my carrier (T-Mobile). The Axon 10 Pro supports every single band, including the brand new ones (66 and 71).
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True, but in the USA, most of the Realme, Redmi, Xiaomi phones don't support all the used LTE bands by my carrier (T-Mobile). The Axon 10 Pro supports every single band, including the brand new ones (66 and 71).
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As long as they have at least bands 2, 4, 12 they are fully functional here in San Diego. I'm also on Tmobile.
Hey guys. I'm wondering if anybody on T-Mobile can call and receive calls on SA 5G, therefore conducting a VoNR call.
Next, this is pretty iffy. This phone, unlike the OnePlus 8T series, are not shown to support aptx Adaptive (not to be confused with Aptx or Aptx HD, seriously) , which is huge for me because as we all know the headphone jack is aging and if I'm gonna get on board with bluetooth audio I need a device and headphones with as little latency as possible. However, the OnePlus 9 has Snapdragon 888 and is capable of FastConnect, which seems to lower latency as well as aptx Adaptive can, so long as it's paired with headphones with either a qcc3044 or qcc3056 chip in it. Can anyone show if the sort works/if you can achieve low latency in headphones with FastPair on op9?
If not, if anyone who has paired the op9 with the Buds Pro proves that the LHDC codec lowers latency significantly as well?
I'm looking to trade in my Nord N10 for this phone, and I need to know this info before doing so. So your responses would be really appreciated. Thanks
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Depends. I bought the Redmi Note 11 Pro Plus 5g and I love it. In this price range no other phone can beat the sheer balance of performance, battery life and camera quality (with gcam ofc) that this device provides. All of that with a headphone jack and sdcard slot(hybrid but whatever). Most people complaining about gimmicky stuff like 4k and being able to play genshin impact at 60fps. If you are looking for a practical device that will serve you well in all areas this is the device to go for. If you want anything else, like a camera phone or a gaming phone look elsewhere.
Edit: I am fortunate to have a proper device but a handful of people seem to have gotten defective units. I don't know how many of them are Redmi and how many poco however.
Pros:
120hz amoled screen
5000mah battery with VERY fast charge
SOT is great
dolby Atmos dual stereo speakers
Rootable/magisk and has MIUiI EU support
SD card or dual SIM
Aux port
Cons:
No 4k camera? Couldn't care less for videos.
I honestly have none.
I'm very happy with my device. Takes good enough pictures (people complaining about 4k = lol. When's the last time you viewed your 4k videos on a 4k capable screen?)
Sound quality is good, speakers are loud enough. WiFi, BT, GPS and data all work great. I've got no complaints and it ticks all my boxes
I don't like it, screen is not good, easy to scratch. A lot of times I type wrong the keyboard keys, so seems like quality of the screen is way worse than my old Xiaomi 9SE. Rom is full of bloatware, hopefully someone will develop Lineage OS based ROMs. Some freezes, probably because I've tweaked the rom.
My biggest complaint is the processor
Since it's built on old architecture it doesn't support stuff like 4k recording, heck the phone is limited to 1080 30 fps by Xiaomi
with Gcam u can record at 1080p 60 fps but after some testing it seems that's it's actually 1080p 45 fps
also camera is probably worser than any other device in this price range (unless that device too is a snapdragon 695 one)
and performance is really bad like for daily usage it's fine but you cannot game on it for hell
screen is half decent but you can probably see like the 5 threads of screen issues
backlight bleeding is very noticable and screen flickering on 120hz mode
battery backup is crazy good though
and you can expect just about no 3rd party development since Mi Code
The GitHub account which used to release kernel source codes for Miui devices has been dead since Late 2021
also this is the guy who used to work on the Mi Code account
I would be so happy if they named the device something like X4, meme4, joke4, xd4 etc
they have disgraced the legendary X3 pro which took the entire smartphone industry by surprise because of its flagship tier processor and camera
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My biggest complaint is the processor
Since it's built on old architecture it doesn't support stuff like 4k recording, heck the phone is limited to 1080 30 fps by Xiaomi
with Gcam u can record at 1080p 60 fps but after some testing it seems that's it's actually 1080p 45 fps
also camera is probably worser than any other device in this price range (unless that device too is a snapdragon 695 one)
and performance is really bad like for daily usage it's fine but you cannot game on it for hell
screen is half decent but you can probably see like the 5 threads of screen issues
backlight bleeding is very noticable and screen flickering on 120hz mode
battery backup is crazy good though
and you can expect just about no 3rd party development since Mi Code
The GitHub account which used to release kernel source codes for Miui devices has been dead since Late 2021
also this is the guy who used to work on the Mi Code account
I would be so happy if they named the device something like X4, meme4, joke4, xd4 etc
they have disgraced the legendary X3 pro which took the entire smartphone industry by surprise because of its flagship tier processor and camera
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I disagree with a lot of these statements. The performance of this device is very close to flagship levels as most of not all android games with high graphics can easily be played maxed out on this device. The games I've had issues with were either unoptimized or limited by kernel trying to maintain temps. The display is crazy good and makes the device an absolute pleasure to use. All this combined with the pretty much all day battery life, like I get 18hrs easy with 120Hz on, some gaming and some social media and photo taking. Not to mention you get a headphone jack and sd card slot. Now brutal here comes from the Poco x3 which was, like the poco f1 a one of a kind device that will never fit into a regular release schedule. I come from Redmi Note 5 Pro. I'm also using the Redmi Note 11 Pro+ not poco version. I've had no issues in the display side of things. Camera at least on the Indian variant is garbage. Global is fine and gcam works very well despite not having an official build for the device. As for kernel sources I say wait at least a year because I have seen sources come out very late and at least the note line is popular enough that xiaomi would have to drop sources. They know why people but their devices. And development does exist in a very limited capacity. We have a few 3 or 4 roms atm. Oh right the dolby atmos support ootb works wonders for both earphone listening and with the dual stereo speakers. Boy they sound good. Also the Redmi Note 11 Pro+ mirage Blue is one sexy looking device.
Now to the bad stuff. First of the display supports hdr but soc does not. That's fine as I don't really have any hdr content to watch. Even the no 1080p60 video is fine since I don't record much video. BUT NO SUPPORT FOR ANY VIDEO THAT'S 1080P+ IS JUST STUPID. My old whyred could play hi res video without any issue yet this one can't. Official xiaomi apps will simply tell you it's unsupported while mx player resorts to software decoding which is somehow slow as hell.
Overall it's a good device for the price as no other device can boast the number of features, performance, battery life and headphone and sdcard support at this price range. Trust me I checked.
If you are looking for a very well rounded device then definitely go for it. Here was my thought process when I bought my device. I wanted a phone that could click good photos and game well and I had planned to get the Redmi Note 10 Pro but then I compared specs and this device specwise is an upgrade in terms of the display and soc performance. Sd695 is far more powerful than the 732g. And both devices have the exact same camera sensor. So I got this one.
Go for Poco F4. The kernel should be the same as F3, so expect the same development as F3 as more people gets their hands on it. Anything missing is audio jack, bigger battery, and dedicated micro sd slot.
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I disagree with a lot of these statements. The performance of this device is very close to flagship levels as most of not all android games with high graphics can easily be played maxed out on this device. The games I've had issues with were either unoptimized or limited by kernel trying to maintain temps. The display is crazy good and makes the device an absolute pleasure to use. All this combined with the pretty much all day battery life, like I get 18hrs easy with 120Hz on, some gaming and some social media and photo taking. Not to mention you get a headphone jack and sd card slot. Now brutal here comes from the Poco x3 which was, like the poco f1 a one of a kind device that will never fit into a regular release schedule. I come from Redmi Note 5 Pro. I'm also using the Redmi Note 11 Pro+ not poco version. I've had no issues in the display side of things. Camera at least on the Indian variant is garbage. Global is fine and gcam works very well despite not having an official build for the device. As for kernel sources I say wait at least a year because I have seen sources come out very late and at least the note line is popular enough that xiaomi would have to drop sources. They know why people but their devices. And development does exist in a very limited capacity. We have a few 3 or 4 roms atm. Oh right the dolby atmos support ootb works wonders for both earphone listening and with the dual stereo speakers. Boy they sound good. Also the Redmi Note 11 Pro+ mirage Blue is one sexy looking device.
Now to the bad stuff. First of the display supports hdr but soc does not. That's fine as I don't really have any hdr content to watch. Even the no 1080p60 video is fine since I don't record much video. BUT NO SUPPORT FOR ANY VIDEO THAT'S 1080P+ IS JUST STUPID. My old whyred could play hi res video without any issue yet this one can't. Official xiaomi apps will simply tell you it's unsupported while mx player resorts to software decoding which is somehow slow as hell.
Overall it's a good device for the price as no other device can boast the number of features, performance, battery life and headphone and sdcard support at this price range. Trust me I checked.
If you are looking for a very well rounded device then definitely go for it. Here was my thought process when I bought my device. I wanted a phone that could click good photos and game well and I had planned to get the Redmi Note 10 Pro but then I compared specs and this device specwise is an upgrade in terms of the display and soc performance. Sd695 is far more powerful than the 732g. And both devices have the exact same camera sensor. So I got this one.
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Although I don't know what you said, but you typed so many words that I think you are right.
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Although I don't know what you said, but you typed so many words that I think you are right.
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I'll admit this isn't the right place to post a review but I am tired of people telling others not to get this phone. Depending on the region this might be the best option for you. If you want headphone jack and sdcard slot it is the only option.