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[Q] Sound chip quality & support for 64-bit

So how's the sound chip compared to the Iphone 5s and other top smartphones ? I heard that since the chipset is SNP800 , the sound chip should be good too, but i'm no pro and have yet to try the headphone out.
Can anyone provide an explanation ?
2nd question (to avoid making 2 threads) :
I know kitkat 4.4 is only 32 bit now , but if for some reason Google releases android 5.0 in the future and it's 64 bit ...will the nexus chipset support it ?

1. Sound is good
2. Doesn't matter

[hfm] said:
1. Sound is good
2. Doesn't matter
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Not sure what you meant for the 2nd answer ?

64 bit computing hardly matters in the mobile space currently. Currently it is only relevant in marketing.
To answer the question. You are still using 32-bit hardware even if 64-bit capable software came out. Odds are Google will not release a 64-bit exclusive operating system in the near future.
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ravenwood27 said:
So how's the sound chip compared to the Iphone 5s and other top smartphones ? I heard that since the chipset is SNP800 , the sound chip should be good too, but i'm no pro and have yet to try the headphone out.
Can anyone provide an explanation ?
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According to the test done by GSMarena, the Nexus 5 sound quality is no where near iOS devices. It has similar sound performance compared to the LG G2 but lower volume output. http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-review-1011p7.php As the graph is shown, there is quite a lot of "wobbling" which isn't good compared to the iOS devices (link is the 5s sound quality: http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_5s-review-994p7.php). This is assuming you actually rip songs from CDs, download 320+ kbps (if you don't know what this is you don't download it), download from Google Play or iTunes, rather than using an app or random website to get free music. Otherwise it wouldn't matter what device you get to listen to music since the sound file wouldn't have enough detail to actually use the iPhone soundboard properly. From experience even the Voodoo sound board on the Galaxy S3+ (not sure about the S4) doesn't reach the levels of iOS devices especially on loudness and clarity. Otherwise for the casual listener, the sound quality on the Nexus 5 should be more than enough unless you're really serious about sound quality.
Edit: according to the benchmarks done on the same website, the Samsung S4 holds it ground fairly well but there is some wobble at later parts of the graph and that's just nitpicking. Won't be hearing the effects of that unless you have songs that are 500 kbps+ and are playing on a good speaker.

RoboWarriorSr said:
According to the test done by GSMarena, the Nexus 5 sound quality is no where near iOS devices. It has similar sound performance compared to the LG G2 but lower volume output. http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-review-1011p7.php As the graph is shown, there is quite a lot of "wobbling" which isn't good compared to the iOS devices (link is the 5s sound quality: http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_5s-review-994p7.php). This is assuming you actually rip songs from CDs, download 320+ kbps (if you don't know what this is you don't download it), download from Google Play or iTunes, rather than using an app or random website to get free music. Otherwise it wouldn't matter what device you get to listen to music since the sound file wouldn't have enough detail to actually use the iPhone soundboard properly. From experience even the Voodoo sound board on the Galaxy S3+ (not sure about the S4) doesn't reach the levels of iOS devices especially on loudness and clarity. Otherwise for the casual listener, the sound quality on the Nexus 5 should be more than enough unless you're really serious about sound quality.
Edit: according to the benchmarks done on the same website, the Samsung S4 holds it ground fairly well but there is some wobble at later parts of the graph and that's just nitpicking. Won't be hearing the effects of that unless you have songs that are 500 kbps+ and are playing on a good speaker.
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This is what I really dont get. I had an iphone 5s for a couple weeks and everything besides the earphones that came in the box sounded horrible. Zero bass, zero highs, just the mids. Also had the HTC one, which is supposed to have a great audio chip, and it did. That phone soudned the best out of all the phone's I've had. (I turned beats off, that is just pure junk). Compared to the HTC one, this phone is actually very good. I still get deep bass, and good highs with no distortion even at high volumes. With the iphone, anything higher than 50%, things got a bit crackly and distorted especially hooked up to my speakers.
OP: The sound chip, in my opinion (I listen to a LOT of music and am pretty much a huge audiophile.), is very good. As some users said, the pure loudness of it isn't that great, but the quality is very good. Not as good as the HTC one, but very close.
EDIT: Quote from GSM arena pretty much saying what I said.
The scores stay close to perfect even when you plug in a pair of headphones. The stereo crosstalk worsens a bit but the rest of the readings are virtually unaffected (frequency response actually improves a bit). Unfortunately, the volume levels remained just as uninspiring.
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aooga said:
This is what I really dont get. I had an iphone 5s for a couple weeks and everything besides the earphones that came in the box sounded horrible. Zero bass, zero highs, just the mids. Also had the HTC one, which is supposed to have a great audio chip, and it did. That phone soudned the best out of all the phone's I've had. (I turned beats off, that is just pure junk). Compared to the HTC one, this phone is actually very good. I still get deep bass, and good highs with no distortion even at high volumes. With the iphone, anything higher than 50%, things got a bit crackly and distorted especially hooked up to my speakers.
OP: The sound chip, in my opinion (I listen to a LOT of music and am pretty much a huge audiophile.), is very good. As some users said, the pure loudness of it isn't that great, but the quality is very good. Not as good as the HTC one, but very close.
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The review on the website show that the HTC One has a excellent audio output but at best decent audio quality. The bass is overemphasized but nothing compared to the One X which was a disaster in terms of audio quality. Realized that the iPhone sound quality may sound worse to many people since it has a "flat" and stabilized audio quality which is what actually is looked for. Many companies tweak the audio to make it more "pleasing" to the masses and overshadow the bad soundboard which include bigger bass (blame Dr. Dre).
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RoboWarriorSr said:
The review on the website show that the HTC One has a excellent audio output but at best decent audio quality. The bass is overemphasized but compared to the One X which was a disaster in terms of audio quality. Realized that the iPhone sound quality may sound worse to many people since it has a "flat" and stabilized audio quality which is what actually is looked for. Many companies tweak the audio to make it more "pleasing" to the masses and overshadow the bad soundboard.
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I know flat sound is technically prefered in benchmarks and things, but I haven't met a single person that actually likes listening to it. Anyway, that was just my opinion. IMO, no matter how technically good the quality is on the iphone, I still think that it sounds horrible. And the software is hideous/crashed way too often.
EDIT: I see you have an iphone. Do you have a N5 as well, or are you just posting here? I'm not trying to be an idiot, just wondering if you have compared the quality between the two

N5 sound sucks.. I'm biased because I upgraded from a HTC one lol. Everything else is solid with my n5
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The built-in speaker is mediocre to crappy. The audio through other connections is quite good, IMO.
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Ajfink said:
The built-in speaker is mediocre to crappy. The audio through other connections is quite good, IMO.
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its a bug. http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus...one-and-software-may-be-hurting-what-you-hear

aooga said:
I know flat sound is technically prefered in benchmarks and things, but I haven't met a single person that actually likes listening to it. Anyway, that was just my opinion. IMO, no matter how technically good the quality is on the iphone, I still think that it sounds horrible. And the software is hideous/crashed way too often.
EDIT: I see you have an iphone. Do you have a N5 as well, or are you just posting here? I'm not trying to be an idiot, just wondering if you have compared the quality between the two
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I'm just basing this off the gsmarena benchmark and from previous experience. Not in my sig but I have a HTC Desire HD and Acer A100 running custom ROMs since both devices are not supported. I hopefully plan to get a Moto G since I kinda would like to get an android device that is current and not gimped by some developers *nvidia*. I tend to randomly post in random device forums usually trying to get up to date with new devices. I have listened to Galaxy S 3 and One X since my friends have them so I have an idea how they sound. Nexus 5 just came out so gsmarena was the only site that had soundboard benchmarks, but like I said it works more than enough for most people and the tweaks made are probably for the better. If you wondering I do prefer the "flat" sound since my speakers don't play well with equalizers especially the Beats one in my HTC. I also tend to listen to more instrumentals than the average listener so the "flatness" help bring out the other instruments in the background that usually would be hidden by the bass or treble.
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zephiK said:
its a bug. http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus...one-and-software-may-be-hurting-what-you-hear
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I really fail to see how that was overlooked. Hopefully they push it out sooner than later.

iPhone5 & 5s have a relatively high output impedance. They'll be a little more temperamental when used with third party buds.
I don't know if we have an impedance reading for the Nexus 5.
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If listening to music, just use Noozxoide E.
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There is definitely a bug wrt audio on the N5, but the speaker is also very crappy and so easy to completely obstruct (v similar positioning on iPhones and some Lumias)

iOStoAndroid said:
There is definitely a bug wrt audio on the N5, but the speaker is also very crappy and so easy to completely obstruct (v similar positioning on iPhones and some Lumias)
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It's going to obstruct wherever they put it. Top, bottom or back especially if you put it in your pocket. The Optimus G had such a high speaker volume even though the speaker was just a small slit in the back and the back was flat.
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You obviously never used one of the devices I mentioned above then.
It's the only thing that stops the N5 being the perfect device (all right maybe a bit better battery life)

Phone call:
On Handset is good...no issues.
On Speaker is ok...on full volume sound distortion is evident.
On Headphones is good but other person can't listen clearly unless I hold headphone mic in front of my lips...or speak loud.
Music:
On Speaker is terrible.
On headphones (Klipsch S4A)...quality is really good for 320kbps mp3 files...I feel best audio quality is between 50% - 70% of volume level.

Sonorisation defect!! on my N910C

Hi,
I have serious complaints about the sonorisation of my Note4, which should be much better in my opinion, as one of the best devices on its range:
The inner rear loudspeaker and also the earphone performances are really poor; making distortion, even on low volume, while speaking and the loudspeaker, listening music of poor response.
Formerly I used to have an Iphone 4, which was good in sound; and I know Iphone 5 is even better than Iphone4...
Is it by default, or special to my device.?
Is there any possibility to have better parts, to get rid of distortion and have a better response while speaking and listening music from the device directly ??
Thanks in advance.

nahman said:
Is it by default, or special to my device.?
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I don't have these issues with my N910T

nahman said:
Hi,
I have serious complaints about the sonorisation of my Note4, which should be much better in my opinion, as one of the best devices on its range:
The inner rear loudspeaker and also the earphone performances are really poor; making distortion, even on low volume, while speaking and the loudspeaker, listening music of poor response.
Formerly I used to have an Iphone 4, which was good in sound; and I know Iphone 5 is even better than Iphone4...
Is it by default, or special to my device.?
Is there any possibility to have better parts, to get rid of distortion and have a better response while speaking and listening music from the device directly ??
Thanks in advance.
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The N910C has a Wolfson DAC (arguably the best on the market for mobile devices), and should have excellent sound reproduction. I specifically bought mine to replace my old Sony Walkman for music playback, and it gives excellent reproduction using a pair of Sennheiser headphones. The speaker on a phone is never going to be fantastic, but I find the one on the Note 4 no worse than other phones I have owned, and don't experience any distortion on low volume.

In fact, I mean the hardware - the physical components:
The earphone simply makes distortion even on low volumes during conversation, and. The rear loudspeaker response is clesrly poor compared to the performance of the old Iphone4.....

Speakerphone (loudness, clarity)

Proper etiquette aside (hint: don't use speakerphone while doing your "business" in a public bathroom), rate this thread to express how you think the Google Pixel XL's speakerphone performs. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it's loud and it's clear.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Coming from the Moto X PE the one speaker at the bottom sounds so sad. I also am having to train myself not to cover it up on accident. For me it is way to quiet or too loud.

Coming from a Galaxy S6, the speaker on the Pixel is significantly louder and clear. I have not been jaded by an HTC set of speakers so I might be in the minority that thinks the Pixel speaker is great.

Coming from N6, I was worried that the XL's speaker will not be as loud. I can confirm that it is as loud, if not slightly louder, but the dual speakers on the N6 has more depth. Overall, I am not as worried as before.

The quality is good, could be louder.

The sound on my end is great, the people on the other end say it's muffled at times. Since I use speaker all day for conference calls I will have to return the Pixel XL

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Coming from N6, I was worried that the XL's speaker will not be as loud. I can confirm that it is as loud, if not slightly louder, but the dual speakers on the N6 has more depth. Overall, I am not as worried as before.
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This makes me feel better since I am coming from a N6 and absolutely love the speakers. I'm going to miss FFS, but at least a quality sound will comfort me.

Not loud enough...and sounds bad in comparison to other phones i've had in the past (even single speaker ones)

Speaker is pretty bad as far as media/games is concerned. RIP stereo. It's good for normal notifications though.

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Not loud enough...and sounds bad in comparison to other phones i've had in the past (even single speaker ones)
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You keep badmouthing the phone yet provide no information for comparison. What other phones have you had, even single speaker ones, that sound better?
This is very subjective anyway

My comparison is with the 6p. Single speaker comparison is the lg g3. The speaker is not terrible on the pixel, but just not as good as one would expect in such a high priced phone. Also, the placement is horrid since you accidentally keep blocking it while watching videos of playing games in landscape.
But otherwise, a fantastic phone which really define what great software and hardware can achieve

Its ok. Not nexus 6 good ofcourse. Its nice for notifications

I made a video comparison between the speakers on the Nexus 6p and the Google Pixel XL. Check it out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg12X1OWG1M

I typically run the phone through bluetooth when listening to music, however I must say that when watching videos I, like others have said, block the speaker. Coming from a Moto X Pure I don't think the speaker on the Pixel is quite as good. It's not bad per se, but I don't need the speaker to be spectacular when watching a video. Notification sounds are plenty loud for me. I haven't used the speaker phone option much, but when I have it has been fine.

I find the single speaker avg. I sometimes cover the speaker with a pinky or palm by accident and muffles just a slight flaw but not a deal breaker.

RIP my Nexus 6's front facing speakers. This is my only major gripe with this phone so far. So disappointing. Front facing speakers should be standard.

Max volume loudness seems about the same as my 6P. My 6P gets crackly at max volume, while the XL does not. Definitely less bass on the XL though.

Coming from the N6 it is not really a fair comparison because the stereo front firing was louder and clearer to me.
The Pixel XL speaker sounds OK and perfectly acceptable for notification. It would have been better if the earpiece was also used as a speaker and the location of the bottom firing speaker flipped with the mic for media.
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It sounds deeper than my note 7 did. I like it better. The only issue I'm having is my notification tones seem to only be about 2/3 the volume they should be. Example is, if I go to Zedge and preview a notification tone, it sounds fine. Set it as notification sound, and it's only about 2/3 of the volume it was in the preview. I have everything I can find turned to the max. Idk.

Jacobk85 said:
Coming from the Moto X PE the one speaker at the bottom sounds so sad. I also am having to train myself not to cover it up on accident. For me it is way to quiet or too loud.
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Ditto to this. MXPE spoiled me in sound quality. Why doesn't every phone have front facing speakers? We certainly got the bezel for it...

How's the audio quality through headphones?

Hey guys, this is a question for the existing owners of the Honor View 10. I like to listen to my music loud via headphones, currently I own a HTC 10 and I am planning to upgrade to the Hoonor View 10. Typically Honor phones have a track record of providing below average loudness through the 3.5mm jack, as indicated by many gsmarena reviews. However, in case of the View 10 gsmarena notes that loudness remains nicely high when plugging in a pair of headphones. Can you guys please confirm this statement? It would really help me make up my mind. Thanks

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Hey guys, this is a question for the existing owners of the Honor View 10. I like to listen to my music loud via headphones, currently I own a HTC 10 and I am planning to upgrade to the Hoonor View 10. Typically Honor phones have a track record of providing below average loudness through the 3.5mm jack, as indicated by many gsmarena reviews. However, in case of the View 10 gsmarena notes that loudness remains nicely high when plugging in a pair of headphones. Can you guys please confirm this statement? It would really help me make up my mind. Thanks
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They are not overly loud.. But they are loud enough to not hear ppl
Depending on headphones it's a bit on the bassy side.
1 to 10. About a 8.5...
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br54 said:
They are not overly loud.. But they are loud enough to not hear ppl
Depending on headphones it's a bit on the bassy side.
1 to 10. About a 8.5...
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Cheers for the review mate, this really helped me out!

nealzXincredible said:
Hey guys, this is a question for the existing owners of the Honor View 10. I like to listen to my music loud via headphones, currently I own a HTC 10 and I am planning to upgrade to the Hoonor View 10. Typically Honor phones have a track record of providing below average loudness through the 3.5mm jack, as indicated by many gsmarena reviews. However, in case of the View 10 gsmarena notes that loudness remains nicely high when plugging in a pair of headphones. Can you guys please confirm this statement? It would really help me make up my mind. Thanks
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I am quite impressed about the sound from this phone (via headphones). The volume may not be hyper-loud but the sound is really full-bodied, the stereo image is very good. Much better than my S6 Edge, my previous mobile.

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I am quite impressed about the sound from this phone (via headphones). The volume may not be hyper-loud but the sound is really full-bodied, the stereo image is very good. Much better than my S6 Edge, my previous mobile.
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I'm not saying loudness should be on par with my HTC 10 but at least somewhere near it. Thanks for your input

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I'm not saying loudness should be on par with my HTC 10 but at least somewhere near it. Thanks for your input
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Sorry can't really compare as my last HTC phone was the mythical HD2...

I made the same switch, from HTC 10 to Honor View 10. I am very impressed by the audio quality through my headphones (AKG N60NC). In terms of loudness, I think it reaches ~80% of that of the HTC 10. The highs are a not as good as on the HTC 10, but I do have the feeling that there's less noise on the View 10.

front facing speakers?

Hi,
I was all over ZTE when their phones had front facing speakers, but they seemed to stop doing that stand-out differentiation. How is this new phone on that front (pun intended)?
Max.

davidmaxwaterman said:
Hi,
I was all over ZTE when their phones had front facing speakers, but they seemed to stop doing that stand-out differentiation. How is this new phone on that front (pun intended)?
Max.
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They're using the earpiece as a speaker for the stereo effect, although it is technically still stereo the top speaker is not as powerful!
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acervenky

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They're using the earpiece as a speaker for the stereo effect, although it is technically still stereo the top speaker is not as powerful!
Regards,
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Hrm, interesting. The important thing about front-facing speakers, to me, is the reproduction of high frequencies, and I don't much care about stereo effect - in fact, I turn it off in the accessibility settings. I should probably give it a try to see how it sounds.
Thanks,
Max.

Sound really sucks. The Axon 7 leaves this in the dust when it comes too sound. I was hoping for something from ZTE with as good sound quality as the 7. Unless they make some changes, this will probably be my last ZTE phone.

jim262 said:
Sound really sucks. The Axon 7 leaves this in the dust when it comes too sound. I was hoping for something from ZTE with as good sound quality as the 7. Unless they make some changes, this will probably be my last ZTE phone.
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Agreed. The bottom firing speaker is not loud at all and is very tinny. The earpiece speaker is an absolute joke. I also had the Axon 7 and those speakers blow this phone away. That said, the speakers are about my only complaint with this phone aside from maybe lack of camera OIS.

xphyle1971 said:
Agreed. The bottom firing speaker is not loud at all and is very tinny. The earpiece speaker is an absolute joke. I also had the Axon 7 and those speakers blow this phone away. That said, the speakers are about my only complaint with this phone aside from maybe lack of camera OIS.
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While I totally agree this phone is pretty ordinary. Nothing about it says I have to have it. In fact, phones like the Realme X2 Pro, with a similar (actually cheaper) pricetag or the OnePlus 7T for a few bucks more, seem like better values.

jim262 said:
While I totally agree this phone is pretty ordinary. Nothing about it says I have to have it. In fact, phones like the Realme X2 Pro, with a similar (actually cheaper) pricetag or the OnePlus 7T for a few bucks more, seem like better values.
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True, but in the USA, most of the Realme, Redmi, Xiaomi phones don't support all the used LTE bands by my carrier (T-Mobile). The Axon 10 Pro supports every single band, including the brand new ones (66 and 71).

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True, but in the USA, most of the Realme, Redmi, Xiaomi phones don't support all the used LTE bands by my carrier (T-Mobile). The Axon 10 Pro supports every single band, including the brand new ones (66 and 71).
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As long as they have at least bands 2, 4, 12 they are fully functional here in San Diego. I'm also on Tmobile.