why for S9 and s9+ there's a 7 day Wait period for OEM unlock?
Lol... ask samsung.
But this is nothing new, started last fall with the note 8 so i dont know why so many S9 users are surprised really.
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It gives enterprises 7 days to locate/wipe lost/stolen phones.
When you see RMM state: Prenormal in download mode you are within this period. (RMM = Remote Management & Monitoring).
RMM not unlocking...
Hi Gang!
I've got an international S9+ (SM-G965F/DS) and I've got a working SIM in it. But, after the 168 hrs of uptime, it's still showing as PRENORMAL. I've got developer mode enabled because I want to root this device. But, I can't get to the OEM Unlock until this thing switches to normal mode. Any clues as to why it's not going to Normal mode?
TIA
taichichuan said:
Hi Gang!
I've got an international S9+ (SM-G965F/DS) and I've got a working SIM in it. But, after the 168 hrs of uptime, it's still showing as PRENORMAL. I've got developer mode enabled because I want to root this device. But, I can't get to the OEM Unlock until this thing switches to normal mode. Any clues as to why it's not going to Normal mode?
TIA
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Do you have a pending ota update? If so you need to take it to get out. It won't reset your 7d wait the whole "up time" thing is complete nonsense anyway ?
My phone is in prenormal state. I have stock firmware and tried to install twrp but decided to just stay stock. Now i cant use google pay..will it work after 7 days?
Hmm... OK, I'll apply the OTA update and see what happens.
TNX,
Mike
So this OEM unlock wait time thing applies to the US SD model as well?
W00fah said:
So this OEM unlock wait time thing applies to the US SD model as well?
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no sir, yours will never show up. Besides with a locked bootloader there is nothing you can do with it anyway.
force70 said:
no sir, yours will never show up. Besides with a locked bootloader there is nothing you can do with it anyway.
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Bummer. Hope something comes out for it soon.
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Bummer. Hope something comes out for it soon.
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Sorry to be negative here, but it won't.
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Sorry to be negative here, but it won't.
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Even if it became available Im still trying to figure out the purpose of even flipping the switch on locked down snap models?
You cant flash anything so I dont see the purpose here and yet everyone keeps asking?
I waited the 7 days and got oem unlock back..it is unlocked atm my status is official but i still cant download Netflix or use google pay? says my syetm is modified..Knox hasnt even been tripped.
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Sorry to be negative here, but it won't.
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Damn. I'm really gonna have to get a Pixel phone when I do my upgrade. Sucks that nothing is working out for the US model of this phone.
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hello,
I'm due to take delivery of my Pixel from EE. Is it true that the booloader cannot be unlocked via normal fastboot oem unlock? Are there any other EE user that confirm?
thanks
EggZenBeanz said:
hello,
I'm due to take delivery of my Pixel from EE. Is it true that the booloader cannot be unlocked via normal fastboot oem unlock? Are there any other EE user that confirm?
thanks
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Depends on the software version. See this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/google-pixel-7-1-1-ee-model-bootloader-t3548611
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Depends on the software version. See this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/google-pixel-7-1-1-ee-model-bootloader-t3548611
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Interesting, thanks! Let's hope it's one from the back of the warehouse then
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Interesting, thanks! Let's hope it's one from the back of the warehouse then
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I've received 2 phones direct from EE (1 replacement arrived last week) , and both were on 7.1 out of the box. So there's hope for you being able to unlock the bootlader. Just make sure you skip Wi-Fi setup during the installation process, or turn off automatic updates within Developer options to avoid updating to 7.1.1.
Then use Depixel8 to unlock the bootlader.
http://theroot.ninja/depixel8.html
Thanks for letting me know. Worst case I'll swap it and go with o2. Coming from a oneplus3 it's disappointing to be back with development unfriendly devices
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Thanks for letting me know. Worst case I'll swap it and go with o2. Coming from a oneplus3 it's disappointing to be back with development unfriendly devices
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I pulled my sim out of my Verizon model before I turned it on to stop any updates along with skipping wifi setup before I unlocked the bootloader. Thankfully mine was on 7.1. Unlocking was one of the first things I did. After that you can upgrade without locking it back up.
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Thanks for letting me know. Worst case I'll swap it and go with o2. Coming from a oneplus3 it's disappointing to be back with development unfriendly devices
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As mentioned, don't put a sim in it and skip wifi setup until you get it unlocked. They download the update quickly....And it installs in the background and if that happens you are done.
You will be fine.
There is about 3 threads a week asking the same exact question..
After posting this I just saw the same exact one right under this one.
Guess it must be a popular question.
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I think it would be a good idea to start complaining on how Samsung has locked down their phones with Oreo. Call them out on Twitter and other threads. Who is with me?
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I think it would be a good idea to start complaining on how Samsung has locked down their phones with Oreo. Call them out on Twitter and other threads. Who is with me?
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it would not help, samsung, Dell, HP and so on, everyone has patched their bootloaders or bios/os microcode updates cause of specte/meltdown. there is no manufacturer that allows to downgrade after a update for meldown/spectre has been applied. it has nothing to do with samsung, it's just a way of protecting their consumers.
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I think it would be a good idea to start complaining on how Samsung has locked down their phones with Oreo. Call them out on Twitter and other threads. Who is with me?
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They did not lock anything down that was not locked down already
That is not true, In Oreo you can no longer use the OEM unlock option. You can not flash Oreo bootloaders. You get an FRP boot loop. This is a new change that forces Oreo users who are on custom roms to stay on Nougat Bootloaders.
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That is not true, In Oreo you can no longer use the OEM unlock option. You can not flash Oreo bootloaders. You get an FRP boot loop. This is a new change that forces Oreo users who are on custom roms to stay on Nougat Bootloaders.
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For exynos phones? Post a link to this issue.
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For exynos phones? Post a link to this issue.
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This person does not realize the change.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/oreo-android-8-firmware-rooted-s8-t3750526
You have to go through this process to flash Oreo, however you will get custom firmware bootloop if you flash bootloader on custom rom.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/guide-how-to-flash-crap-using-odin-s8-t3748571
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I think it would be a good idea to start complaining on how Samsung has locked down their phones with Oreo. Call them out on Twitter and other threads. Who is with me?
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I actually called and asked to speak to someone about this and they basically have me the run-around. Then I asked to speak to any developer and they told me they couldn't do that and to have a nice day........I figured I'd try.
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That is not true, In Oreo you can no longer use the OEM unlock option. You can not flash Oreo bootloaders. You get an FRP boot loop. This is a new change that forces Oreo users who are on custom roms to stay on Nougat Bootloaders.
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People in the Oreo threads are saying you have to wait 7 days and you can not turn the phone off or reboot in those 7 days for the unlock option to show up. If you turn it off or reboot the counter resets. I can't confirm this, just relaying what everyone is saying.
I remember when I thought my opinion mattered.
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That is not true, In Oreo you can no longer use the OEM unlock option. You can not flash Oreo bootloaders. You get an FRP boot loop. This is a new change that forces Oreo users who are on custom roms to stay on Nougat Bootloaders.
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That's completely untrue, you have to wait 7 days without the phone turning off even once and this option will appear again
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That's completely untrue, you have to wait 7 days without the phone turning off even once and this option will appear again
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But you still can't flash Oreo bootloader and modem on a phone with a custom recovery. Even with oem unlock on. It will bootloop with that message.
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But you still can't flash Oreo bootloader and modem on a phone with a custom recovery. Even with oem unlock on. It will bootloop with that message.
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Back you up with that from chat on telegram. Only a few official beta testers never got RMM state prenormal but it's true. Even after 7 days you cannot flash Oreo bootloader
Latest S8 Oreo firmware, updated 2 days ago restarted 1 day ago. G950F
If Samsung persists with this I want my Knox reset and the s8 can go on eBay, I'll buy a pixel 2
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Oem unlock is still available, let the devs update theur stuff for the oreo bootloader and everyrhing will be fine
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If Samsung persists with this I want my Knox reset and the s8 can go on eBay, I'll buy a pixel 2
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you cannot gt the knox reset without replacing the motherboard. it is a physical fuse.
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you cannot gt the knox reset without replacing the motherboard. it is a physical fuse.
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Yes, I'm aware of that, but if Samsung is changing the rules it can bear the costs!
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Yes, I'm aware of that, but if Samsung is changing the rules it can bear the costs!
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good luck getting them to agree to that.
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good luck getting them to agree to that.
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I'm not expecting it to be easy, but if I feel I'm being pushed around I'm very successful at recovering monies.
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There's no way in hell they'd go for it
Just tried several times with honor support to get unlocked code before the so called deadline...they refused and said they will not be provided for phone from USA & Canada. Any thoughts about what is going on....
Donald Seguin said:
Just tried several times with honor support to get unlocked code before the so called deadline...they refused and said they will not be provided for phone from USA & Canada. Any thoughts about what is going on....
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you can try
https://www.emui.com/en/plugin/unlock/index
I got my unock code that way a few weeks ago
thank you.
Will give that a try, are you using a North American phone ( Canada or USA) cause that seems to be what they are blocking for now.
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Will give that a try, are you using a North American phone ( Canada or USA) cause that seems to be what they are blocking for now.
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No I'm not, I'm in Europe, but it's still worth a try
I just got my code earlier today so it's still working.
Chris (developer for Honor us) said they are not blocking codes at all. In fact, he's still in talks with the uppers trying to reverse the decision. You can easily find him on FB if you'd like to personally reach out to
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I just got my code earlier today so it's still working.
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You guys are correct, support was wrong they are still providing unlock codes...now that I have a code where do I input this in the phone to make sure it is unlocked. I have not done this before...so I will not be flashing A ROM on this just yet!
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You guys are correct, support was wrong they are still providing unlock codes...now that I have a code where do I input this in the phone to make sure it is unlocked. I have not done this before...so I will not be flashing A ROM on this just yet!
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If you don't know how to unlock bootloader or understand what comes with unlocking a bootloader, do some reading on other threads or do not attempt it at all you could break your phone.
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If you don't know how to unlock bootloader or understand what comes with unlocking a bootloader, do some reading on other threads or do not attempt it at all you could break your phone.
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This much I know...unlock now to preserve the option of a stable Rom sometime in the future after Honor stops supporting the phone...I hate this planned obsolescence which is all too common with Android...
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If you don't know how to unlock bootloader or understand what comes with unlocking a bootloader, do some reading on other threads or do not attempt it at all you could break your phone.
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Do we still get OTA updates after unlocking the bootloader?
I want to stick to EMUI until OTA updates are stopped officially.
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This much I know...unlock now to preserve the option of a stable Rom sometime in the future after Honor stops supporting the phone...I hate this planned obsolescence which is all too common with Android...
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You don't need to use it now unless you wish to switch to custom ROMs or gain root.
Just keep it until you're ready to make the change. It can be used to unlock and relock as many times as you want.
Unlocking will force a wipe.
There are no stable ROMs at the moment anyway, and I doubt there will still be oldschool ones in the future.
As soon as Oreo is out for your region you could unlock and switch to Treble ROMs, but they're not stable for our phone yet either. Kirin's are fiddly to work with when it comes to custom roms, even with Treble support. Stock is always the best option.
Keep your unlock code somewhere safe, since (like someone already said) you can use and reuse it however often you want, and really stay on stock as long as you can. It's of no use for you to unlock/root right now.
Any chance 9f bootloader unlock since the oreo update is out?
Unlikely and so far nothing new indicating it's going to happen.
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Unlikely and so far nothing new indicating it's going to happen.
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If someone WAS able to unlock the bootloader, who would be building the roms?
Anyone? A lot of the Exynos ROM's are peoples own projects or unofficial ports of known ROMs, don't know why it'd be any different for the 930U
So did Samsung put the OEM unlock button in Developer Options as a joke? I have a G930T and the switch does nothing but flip back and forth. If i was at Samsung I'd find it hilarious I have to admit
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So did Samsung put the OEM unlock button in Developer Options as a joke? I have a G930T and the switch does nothing but flip back and forth. If i was at Samsung I'd find it hilarious I have to admit
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I think oem unlock is suppose to allow your device to not lock to a specific sim card when you insert one
OEM unlock unlocks the bootloader, but only for Exynos chipsets. There is no user accessible way of unlocking a phone from its carrier beyond calling the carrier.
It's present in the snapdragon US models, but does nothing. But that's the fault of US carriers strong arming Samsung into not letting US models be bootloader unlocked.
Is there a way to speak to Samsung officials for them to allow us to unlock bootloader?
You'd just get a canned response
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You'd just get a canned response
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Darn it. Ok
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You'd just get a canned response
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Do you think, since a lot has changed then, that there is a version of C.F. Auto root exists for the Binary 10 version of the SM-G930U? went to flash the version for my device from the website and I got the SECURE CHECK FAIL: recovery error, same as if you were installing the wrong firmware for your device... Not quite sure what to do here xD
Hey folks,
I am new to the rooting scene and was hoping someone could give me some guidance on how to properly root my S7 model G930VL. I've read people say that the bootloader cannot be unlocked while others said it can by simply turning on OEM unlock? Do I really have to flash another firmware in order to root and if so, how would I do that?
Thank you for your time.
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Hey folks,
I am new to the rooting scene and was hoping someone could give me some guidance on how to properly root my S7 model G930VL. I've read people say that the bootloader cannot be unlocked while others said it can by simply turning on OEM unlock? Do I really have to flash another firmware in order to root and if so, how would I do that?
Thank you for your time.
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all the VLs ive seen use safestrap (i have a G900VL and its the same issue). Ive tried flashing so many different versions of S5 firmware that its becoming hopeless. I know youre talking about a S7 and im talking about a S5, but the issue should be at the very least similar. If the bootloader is locked and isnt unlockable, then all youre left with is safestrap
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all the VLs ive seen use safestrap (i have a G900VL and its the same issue). Ive tried flashing so many different versions of S5 firmware that its becoming hopeless. I know youre talking about a S7 and im talking about a S5, but the issue should be at the very least similar. If the bootloader is locked and isnt unlockable, then all youre left with is safestrap
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Hi,
Thanks for the reply back. I actually just ordered a SM-G930F international variant which I was under the impression is much, much easier to root, right? The bootloader is automatically unlocked by turning on OEM in dev settings?
Riyita said:
Hi,
Thanks for the reply back. I actually just ordered a SM-G930F international variant which I was under the impression is much, much easier to root, right? The bootloader is automatically unlocked by turning on OEM in dev settings?
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yep and yep. you might have to contend with the 168 hour thing, but other than that it should be a cakewalk. The 168 hour thing is where the bootloader toggle wont switch unless you let it sit powered on for 168 hours. I.E., just dont reboot it for 7 days then toggle the unlock