The following information is subject to change:
XT1540: Single-SIM (Retail US | Canada (Telus) | Latin America (Tigo, Movistar Mexico))
XT1541: Single-SIM (Retail EU | GB | SP | FR | GER)
XT1542: Single-SIM (Retail Latin America (Movistar Columbia))
XT1543: Dual-SIM (Retail Brazil | Latin America)
XT1544: Dual-SIM with Digital TV (HDTV) (Brazil | Latin America)
XT1548: Single-SIM (US - CDMA Prepaid)
XT1550: Dual-SIM (Retail Asia | India | Brazil)
XT1556: Dual-SIM (Turbo Edition) (Mexico | Brazil | Latin America)
XT1557: Dual-SIM (Turbo Edition) (Asia)
**All Models appear to be available as either 8GB Storage with 1GB RAM or 16GB Storage with 2GB RAM. The only exception is the Turbo Edition, which is 16GB Storage and 2GB RAM only.
Frequency Band Support:
XT1540: GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 - UMTS/HSPA+: 850, 1700/AWS, 1900, 2100 - LTE: B2 (1900), B4 (1700), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B17 (700)
XT1541: GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 - UMTS/HSPA+: 900, 2100 - LTE: B1 (2100), B3 (1800), B7 (2600), B8 (900), B20 (800)
XT1542: Unknown - Likely same as XT1543
XT1543: GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 - UMTS/HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 - LTE: B4 (1700), B7 (2600), B28 (700)
XT1544: GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 - UMTS/HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 - LTE: B4 (1700), B7 (2600), B28 (700)
XT1548: CDMA: 800, 850, 1900 - GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 - UMTS/HSPA+: 850, 1700, 1900 - LTE: B2 (1900), B4 (1700), B5 (850), B12 (700), B17 (700), B25 (1900), B26 (850) - LTE-TDD: B41 (2500)
XT1550: GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 - UMTS/HSPA+: 900, 2100 - LTE: B1 (2100), B3 (1800), B7 (2600), B8 (900), B28 (700) - LTE-TDD: B40 (2300)
XT1556: GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850, 900, 1700, 1900 - UMTS/HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 - LTE: B4 (1700), B7 (2600), B28 (700)
XT1557: GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850, 900, 1700, 1900 - UMTS/HSPA+: 850, 900, 2100 - LTE: B1 (2100), B3 (1800), B7 (2600), B8 (900), B28 (700) - LTE-TDD: B40 (2300)
Thank you kind sir. Are you planning on getting a 3rd gen G?
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alfick3 said:
Thank you kind sir. Are you planning on getting a 3rd gen G?
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It is tempting
lost101 said:
It is tempting
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I'm planning on it, but not until next March, or so. I have to get my tax refund back. I skipped the 2nd gen and the Moto G 4G.
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I live in Portugal and I want to buy the Moto G 3rd Gen, dual SIM with 2GB RAM and 16GB of internal memory.
does anyone knows a website where I can buy it?
hpalves said:
I live in Portugal and I want to buy the Moto G 3rd Gen, dual SIM with 2GB RAM and 16GB of internal memory.
does anyone knows a website where I can buy it?
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The first thing you should check is the Frequency Bands used in your country and by your Carrier / Network:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks#Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe
It seems that XT1550 should work almost without problems in Europe. There is lack of support for B20 band, but everything else is same as in EU version.
jozeck said:
It seems that XT1550 should work almost without problems in Europe. There is lack of support for B20 band, but everything else is same as in EU version.
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Yes, I was going to say there probably would be no problems with XT1550. Maybe Amazon.es has Asian / Indian phone importers?
XT1544: Dual-SIM with Digital TV (HDTV) (Retail Brazil | Latin America)
What does Digital TV mean? Streaming over internet ?
AbhijeetNagawade said:
XT1544: Dual-SIM with Digital TV (HDTV) (Retail Brazil | Latin America)
What does Digital TV mean? Streaming over internet ?
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Not IPTV. The mentioned HDTV is similar to a conventional free over-the-air analog broadcast, but it's got a signal that translates to digital data.
ISDB-T International (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISDB-T_International)
XT1550 Dual-SIM 2GB RAM | 16GB Storage is available from Flipkart (India): Black | White ($203 | 184 Euros)
Does anyone know a US / European importer?
Motorola have removed LTE Band 12 from the specifications for XT1540. First post updated.
lost101 said:
XT1550 Dual-SIM 2GB RAM | 16GB Storage is available from Flipkart (India)
Does anyone know a US / European importer?
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May be, www(dot)indianmailbox(dot)com as mail & parcel forwarder service ?
can you upload CPU-Z results of 2GB version?
lxkarthi said:
can you upload CPU-Z results of 2GB version?
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Unfortunately I don't have access to a 2GB handset. You could start a new thread in 'General' called something like: Performance comparison - 1GB vs 2GB
Remember questions are not allowed in General, but a thread showing the difference between models would be tolerated. Don't ask a question in thread title or first post. You could simply state: Please post CPU-Z results here.
Hi, I think I'm going to buy this device but I have some compatibility questions: Will 1Gb ram model roms work on 2Gb one? And will the 1Gb ram models use all the capabilities of the 2Gb ram model?
android1111 said:
Hi, I think I'm going to buy this device but I have some compatibility questions: Will 1Gb ram model roms work on 2Gb one? And will the 1Gb ram models use all the capabilities of the 2Gb ram model?
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As far as I know, there is no difference between the 1GB version and 2GB version other than the amount of RAM and Internal Storage. I expect the ROMs to be exactly the same, and inter-changeable. For example; a ROM compatible with XT1540 will work on either version - with the same features / options.
hmm i dont see the XT1540 (USA / tmobile) version selling with 2GB RAM anywhere yet...
only found the 1GB RAM on amazon so far..
1dtms said:
hmm i dont see the XT1540 (USA / tmobile) version selling with 2GB RAM anywhere yet...
only found the 1GB RAM on amazon so far..
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The 2GB Version Moto G is exclusive to Moto Maker in many countries.
latin america gets HDTV and the states get fm tuner. oh well maybe in 2025 we'll get hdtv
I can't seem to find the list of CA bands. I saw it before but can't seem to find it again.
FRD-L04 supports the following bands
GSM
850
900 (E-GSM)
1800 (DCS)
1900 (PCS)
UMTS
B1 (2100)
B2 (1900 PCS)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 (850)
LTE
B2 (1900 PCS)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 (850)
B7 (2600)
B12 (700 ac)
B17 (700 bc)
and since its an LTE-A device, Carrier aggregation is possible.
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FRD-L04 supports the following bands
GSM
850
900 (E-GSM)
1800 (DCS)
1900 (PCS)
UMTS
B1 (2100)
B2 (1900 PCS)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 (850)
LTE
B2 (1900 PCS)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 (850)
B7 (2600)
B12 (700 ac)
B17 (700 bc)
and since its an LTE-A device, Carrier aggregation is possible.
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Where did you get this information from? There's a site called FrequencyCheck claiming this, but it contradicts the information from Huawei/Honor - and Honor's live chat confirms it is incorrect. I'm not going to have my Honor 8 for a few weeks, but I sincerely hope this information is incorrect.
The official information (from https://store.hihonor.com/us/honor-8/specification ) is:
LTE FDD: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B20, WCDMA: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8, GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
Interband CA: B2-B17,B5-B4,B5-B2,B2-B12,B2-B4 Intraband Continuous CA: B2
Given I plan to use this phone in the UK, I'm obviously seriously hoping that this is the correct set of info...
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Where did you get this information from? There's a site called FrequencyCheck claiming this, but it contradicts the information from Huawei/Honor - and Honor's live chat confirms it is incorrect. I'm not going to have my Honor 8 for a few weeks, but I sincerely hope this information is incorrect.
The official information (from https://store.hihonor.com/us/honor-8/specification ) is:
LTE FDD: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B20, WCDMA: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8, GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
Interband CA: B2-B17,B5-B4,B5-B2,B2-B12,B2-B4 Intraband Continuous CA: B2
Given I plan to use this phone in the UK, I'm obviously seriously hoping that this is the correct set of info...
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Oh. Got that info from that FrequencyCheck website only.
According to the Official website it has B8 and B20 in addition to the bands I mentioned in my post.
If confusion over sources is the problem, why not take a look at the FCC's tests? https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...id=RVnBofSaGkQDhYOqmiLX/A==&fcc_id=QISFRD-L04
The RFExposure document says that only the downlink of Release 10 CA is supported, with a max of two carriers. It does not have R10 uplink CA, ESC-FDMA or Uplink MIMO, or any other R10 features. Uplink comms are R8 specs. (Sect 1.3.3)
(7.1.17 has some more info on CA.)
In that same document, there's a power reduction specsheet showing the distribution of each band over various antennas. From there, it looks like these are the supported bands:
GSM:
- 850
- 1900
UMTS:
- II
- IV
- V
LTE:
- 2
- 4
- 5
- 7
- 12
- 17
(Sect 1.3.2)
Section 1.3 has a really clear listing, since it's the EUT (Equipment Under Test) Description. It lines up with the above information.
So @AllieKitty, the FCC doesn't mention anything about LTE/UMTS B1, B3, B8 or B20, not does it say GSM900 and GSM1800 are supported. It's possible they just didn't test those bands, since they aren't really used here, but I think they'd still be listed in the Device Configuration.
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AllieKitty said:
Where did you get this information from? There's a site called FrequencyCheck claiming this, but it contradicts the information from Huawei/Honor - and Honor's live chat confirms it is incorrect. I'm not going to have my Honor 8 for a few weeks, but I sincerely hope this information is incorrect.
The official information (from https://store.hihonor.com/us/honor-8/specification ) is:
LTE FDD: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B20, WCDMA: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8, GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
Interband CA: B2-B17,B5-B4,B5-B2,B2-B12,B2-B4 Intraband Continuous CA: B2
Given I plan to use this phone in the UK, I'm obviously seriously hoping that this is the correct set of info...
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Is there a reason to not get the FRD-L09 (VAT or something)? It supports LTE 3, 7, 20.
Zacharee1 said:
If confusion over sources is the problem, why not take a look at the FCC's tests? https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...id=RVnBofSaGkQDhYOqmiLX/A==&fcc_id=QISFRD-L04
The RFExposure document says that only the downlink of Release 10 CA is supported, with a max of two carriers. It does not have R10 uplink CA, ESC-FDMA or Uplink MIMO, or any other R10 features. Uplink comms are R8 specs. (Sect 1.3.3)
(7.1.17 has some more info on CA.)
In that same document, there's a power reduction specsheet showing the distribution of each band over various antennas. From there, it looks like these are the supported bands:
GSM:
- 850
- 1900
UMTS:
- II
- IV
- V
LTE:
- 2
- 4
- 5
- 7
- 12
- 17
(Sect 1.3.2)
Section 1.3 has a really clear listing, since it's the EUT (Equipment Under Test) Description. It lines up with the above information.
So @AllieKitty, the FCC doesn't mention anything about LTE/UMTS B1, B3, B8 or B20, not does it say GSM900 and GSM1800 are supported. It's possible they just didn't test those bands, since they aren't really used here, but I think they'd still be listed in the Device Configuration.
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Is there a reason to not get the FRD-L09 (VAT or something)? It supports LTE 3, 7, 20.
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The FRD-L09 doesn't support bands 2, 4, and 12 though. Also, it costs a LOT more - got my L04 (in my friend's possession in the US right now) for $259.99 on Amazon.
As for the FCC... that means nothing... the L14 has the same FCC tests. ONLY bands used in the US get tested by the FCC. Which makes the band 7 tests odd, as band 7 isn't used in the US yet - but it is used in Canada. My understanding is that band 7 is a possibility for future use in the US, which is probably why this needed testing.
PS thanks for the FCC link, I found the correct list under the description of equipment in the RF test report:
FRD-L04 is subscriber equipment in the GSM/WCDMA/LTE system. The GSM frequency band includes GSM850 and
GSM900 and DCS1800 and PCS1900. The UMTS frequency band is B1 and B2 and B4 and B5 and B8. The LTE
frequency band is B1 and B2 and B3 and B4 and B5 and B7 and B8 and B12 and B17 and B20. But only GSM850 and
GSM1900MHz，UMTS frequency B2 and B4 and B5，LTE frequency B2 and B4 and B5 and B7 and B12 and B17
bands test data included in this report. The Mobile Phone implements such functions as RF signal receiving
/transmitting, LTE/HSPA/UMTS and GSM/GPRS/EDGE protocol processing, voice, video MMS service, GPS, AGPS,
NFC and WIFI etc. Externally it provides one micro SD card interface (it can also used as SIM card interface),
earphone port (to provide voice service) and one SIM card interface. FRD-L04 is single SIM smart phone. It also
provides Bluetooth module to synchronize data between a PC and the phone, or to use the built-in modem of the phone
to access the Internet with a PC, or to exchange data with other Bluetooth devices.
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The FRD-L09 doesn't support bands 2, 4, and 12 though. Also, it costs a LOT more - got my L04 (in my friend's possession in the US right now) for $259.99 on Amazon.
As for the FCC... that means nothing... the L14 has the same FCC tests. ONLY bands used in the US get tested by the FCC. Which makes the band 7 tests odd, as band 7 isn't used in the US yet - but it is used in Canada. My understanding is that band 7 is a possibility for future use in the US, which is probably why this needed testing.
PS thanks for the FCC link, I found the correct list under the description of equipment in the RF test report:
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Glad I'm wrong
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Glad I'm wrong
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Me too! The band 7 testing is odd. Those frequencies are used in the US for TD-LTE (as band 41). Band 7 is a theoretical possibility from my understanding but unlikely. Sprint would be in the best position to try to get their spectrum paired to use as band 7, but why? TD-LTE offers benefits FDD-LTE doesn't in efficiency. Canada uses B7 tho, so that may explain it.
Anyway, to reiterate for OP's sake in case it got lost in the crowd:
Interband CA: B2-B17,B5-B4,B5-B2,B2-B12,B2-B4 Intraband Continuous CA: B2
I have confirmed EU-version (FRD-L09) CA Combos: https://cacombos.com/device?model=FRD-L09 - only Contiguous CA seems support.
I read different statements about global LTE on Mi Mix 2S.
I don't trust any preorder page to answer my questions.
Does anyone know which models will have global LTE support?
in a german article it was stated that only the "king variant" with 256GB will have the global LTE modem. The article also states that this will only be a downside for the 128GB and 64GB Version if you live outside of Europe.
https://www.notebookcheck.com/Achtu...-Modem-nur-in-der-King-Variante.292636.0.html
Lamensis said:
in a german article it was stated that only the "king variant" with 256GB will have the global LTE modem. The article also states that this will only be a downside for the 128GB and 64GB Version if you live outside of Europe.
https://www.notebookcheck.com/Achtu...-Modem-nur-in-der-King-Variante.292636.0.html
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*Edited*
See reply below. This is correct that 256MB model supports more frequencies, altho, 64/128GB models support all widely used in EU frequencies as well, but still you need to check your country/operator frequencies and compare to the list below (use https://www.frequencycheck.com/ for example to find out frequencies used by your operator/operators in your country).
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I believe all models are the same - they support all of the frequencies. The difference between 256GB/8GB and 64GB/6GB is just that - internal storage capacity and RAM.
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Actually that article is correct - if you check the specs on the official website, under "全球频段", it shows that only the "尊享版" (i.e. the 8GB/256GB version) gets the full global band support. All other "normal" editions (标准版) gets less supported bands, although it contains a few more bands compared to other Xiaomi phones.
Here is the list of bands supported in each edition, for your convenience:
Supreme Edition:
GSM: B2 / B3 / B5 / B8
CDMA1X/EVDO: BC0 / BC1 / BC6 / BC10
WCDMA: B1 / B2 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B6 / B8 / B9 / B19
TD-SCDMA: B34 / B39
TD-LTE: B34 / B38 / B39 / B40 / B41
FDD-LTE: B1 / B2 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B7 / B8 / B12 / B13 / B17 / B18 / B19 / B20 / B25 / B26 / B27 /B 28 / B29 / B30
Standard Edition:
GSM: B2 / B3 / B5 / B8
CDMA1X/EVDO: BC0
WCDMA: B1 / B2 / B4 / B5 / B8
TD-SCDMA: B34 / B39
TD-LTE: B34 / B38 / B39 / B40 / B41
FDD-LTE: B1 / B2 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B7 / B8 / B12 / B17 / B20
B41 supports 2496-2690 MHz full-bandwidth
LTE B41 4 antenna technology supporting 4x4 MIMO
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Would I have to buy the "King" model if I want to use this in the USA with T-Mobile - MetroPCS?
SantinoInc said:
Would I have to buy the "King" model if I want to use this in the USA with T-Mobile - MetroPCS?
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Is the 64gb version's 4G LTE supported in Europe as well as Norway and Sweden?
It says chinese LTE on the xiaomi website, however it seems like Europe would work just as well, or am I wrong?
as far as i understood, you need the king variant for USA
Standard edition should work fine in US on T-Mobile, AT&T and their MVNOs. Not sure about Verizon and Sprint.
Different info from you guys. Doesmypohonework.net
doesn't have this phone listed yet. I guess I'll ask the potential seller
All you need to do is know if your carrier supports bringing your own device and compare the bands.
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Would I have to buy the "King" model if I want to use this in the USA with T-Mobile - MetroPCS?
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chinese here,no,
the premium version is only needed for sprint and verizon
Mexican here, regular model should be compatible with Telcel
It uses B2/B5 for 3G
And B4 for LTE
On the gearbest preorder page for the "globabl 6gb/64gb" version, they state that it will support all the bands that the 8gb model supports. They back it up again in the customer questions section.
Do we know if the global version of the phone is going to support more bands than the chinese version, or are gearbest just misinformed?
alec801 said:
On the gearbest preorder page for the "globabl 6gb/64gb" version, they state that it will support all the bands that the 8gb model supports. They back it up again in the customer questions section.
Do we know if the global version of the phone is going to support more bands than the chinese version, or are gearbest just misinformed?
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I just checked the specs on the Xiaomi Hong Kong website (as units sold in HK will come with the global rom), and found that all global version units will support the extended bands, regardless of size. Another interesting thing I noticed is that they don't show the 8GB/256GB version at all, which may mean it is exclusive to Mainland China.
naraik-l said:
I just checked the specs on the Xiaomi Hong Kong website (as units sold in HK will come with the global rom), and found that all global version units will support the extended bands, regardless of size. Another interesting thing I noticed is that they don't show the 8GB/256GB version at all, which may mean it is exclusive to Mainland China.
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Thanks for the news, will keep a close eye on this. Had almost written off the phone because I would like B28 but otherwise am happy with the 64gb model. 256gb is much more expensive than I am prepared to pay.
M.
seems they add the 6G + 128 ROM version but no 8G + 256 ROM
naraik-l said:
I just checked the specs on the Xiaomi Hong Kong website (as units sold in HK will come with the global rom), and found that all global version units will support the extended bands, regardless of size. Another interesting thing I noticed is that they don't show the 8GB/256GB version at all, which may mean it is exclusive to Mainland China.
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hardtheory said:
seems they add the 6G + 128 ROM version but no 8G + 256 ROM
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There's already a china 256gb with global bands.
M.
mattman83 said:
There's already a china 256gb with global bands.
M.
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I think we are in the same boat; looking for the mi mix 2s but but lte band compatibility information are not clear at all, some merchant say extend compatibility for global version 64 go and other say no compatibility for b28 lte band, and when you ask for the seller they even don't know how to answer, so cannot thrust them... Wait for a customer test to get more information...
I contacted Xiaomi HK to ask:
Dear Sir/Madam,
Thanks for inquiry.
This is Hongkong customer service centre. Our Mi Mix2S is global version. We can offer the network frequency and band for you to refer, but I have to remind you that our goods can be only ship to Hongkong:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900MHz (B2/B3/B5/B8)
WCDMA 800/850/900/1700/1800/AWS-1/1900/2100MHz (B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B6/B8/B9/B19)
TD-SCDMA 1900/2000MHz (B34/B39)
CDMA BC0/BC1/BC10
TDD-LTE B34/B38/B39/B40/B41
FDD-LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B27/B28/B29/B30
Thank you for your support and attention towards XiaoMi.
Any other questions,please feel free to contact us:[email protected] .
Best Regards.
—Rainy
So they appear to confirm that the Global 6GB version has all bands.
Guys I don't know of this is normal but bought one with free shipping on eBay local usa seller good feedback. It was stated as global version which I didn't think was out yet. Anyway I got it and appears to be with all languages. Working on AT&T LTE perfectly. Phone was $579 shipped, got it in 2 days.
1. I will be living in the US and Colombia in an orphanage. I am currently in the US and my latest phone is a Note 3 and Verizon (CDMA). Colombia doesn't have CDMA. My Verizon Note 3 will work there, but not well. The closest spectrum match from a US carrier AT&T and I like anything in the Note series. I would like the Note 4 because it has a replaceable battery, a back that comes off so I can add a dual SIM adapter, the price, and if it comes up missing, it won't cost much to replace. However, Claro and Movistar are the two most popular networks in the country, and it appears that I see that the Note 4 and Note 5 do not support Movistar's UMTS B4, so it appears that the Note 8 is the only option if I want to support both. I've never been a band expert, so I organized the information below for your comment. The red in the Note 5 and Note 8 show the differences between them and the Note 4.
Colombian Mobile Service Providers
Claro (48%), Movistar(24%), Tigo(18%), remaining 10% are MVNOs of these.
Colombian Bands
GSM (2G) 850, 1900 (PCS) - Claro, Movistar, Tigo
UMTS B2 (1900 PCS) - Claro, Tigo
UMTS B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1) - Movistar
LTE (4G): Band 2/1900 - Movistar
LTE (4G): B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1) - Movistar, Tigo
LTE (4G): B7 (2600) - Claro, Tigo
LTE (4G): Band 38/2600 - DirectTV data
LTE (4G): Future - Colombia will "real soon" (when pigs fly) be auctioning in the 700 range 2x 15MHz blocks (Block A/B12), 2x 10MHz blocks (Block B/B12) and two 2x 5MHz blocks (Blocks C/B12&orB13, and D/B14). A supplementary 2x 2.5MHz block of 1900MHz spectrum will also be auctioned, comprising frequencies in the 1865MHz-1867.5MHz/1945MHz-1947.5MHz bands (Block E/B25).
AT&T Bands (as near as I can find)
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/at-t-united-states
GSM Supported Protocols: GPRS, EDGE
GSM (2G) 850, 1900 (PCS)
UMTS Supported Protocols: UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
UMTS (3G) B2 (1900 PCS), B5 (850)
LTE Supported Protocols: LTE, LTE-A
LTE (4G) B2 (1900 PCS), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B5 (850 CLR), B12 (700 ac), B14 (700 public safety), B17 (700 bc), B30 (2300 WCS), B40 (TDD 2300 implementing), B66 (1700 AWS)
Note 4 N910A (AT&T)
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/GLDb7/samsung-sm-n910a-galaxy-note-4-lte-a-samsung-muscat
GSM Supported Protocols GPRS, EDGE
GSM (2G) 850, 900 (E-GSM), 1800 (DCS), 1900 (PCS)
UMTS (3G) B1 (2100), B2 (1900 PCS), B5 (850), B8 (900 GSM)
UMTS Supported Protocols UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
LTE (4G) B2 (1900 PCS), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B12 (700 bc), B17 (700 bc)
Supported LTE Protocols LTE, LTE-A
Note 5 N920A (AT&T)
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/A1aaA/samsung-galaxy-note-5-sm-n920a
GSM Supported Protocols GPRS, EDGE
GSM (2G) 850, 900 (E-GSM), 1800 (DCS), 1900 (PCS)
UMTS Supported Protocols UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
UMTS (3G) B1 (2100), B2 (1900 PCS), B5 (850), B8 (900 GSM)
LTE Supported Protocols LTE, LTE-A
LTE (4G) B1 (2100), B2 (1900 PCS), B3 (1800 +), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B7 (2600), B12 (700 ac), B17 (700 bc), B20 (800 DD), B29 (700 de)
Note 8 N950U (AT&T)
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...axy-note-8-td-lte-us-sm-n950u1-samsung-baikal
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
GSM Supported Protocols GPRS, EDGE
GSM (2G) 850, 900 (E-GSM), 1800 (DCS), 1900 (PCS)
UMTS Supported Protocols UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
UMTS (3G) B1 (2100), B2 (1900 PCS), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B5 (850), B8 (900 GSM)
LTE Supported Protocols LTE, LTE-A
LTE (4G) B1 (2100), B2 (1900 PCS), B3 (1800 +), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B8 (900), B12 (700 ac), B13 (700 c), B17 (700 bc), B18 (800 Lower), B20 (800 DD), B25 (1900 +), B26 (850 +), B28 (700 APT), B29 (700 de), B30 (2300 WCS), B38 (TD 2600), B39 (TD 1900 +), B40 (TD 2300), B41 (TD 2500)
2. Another entirely different subject is how good the AT&T network is these days? (Southwest Michigan mostly with some rural.) On Verizon pre-paid I'm always connected and get 13.9 down and 9.23 up in the worst part of the day on 3 bars. How well does it do inside buildings as I'm often buried in basements and wire closets with my IT work. Any advice appreciated.
Thanks TONS!!!
IT_Architect said:
1. I will be living in the US and Colombia in an orphanage. I am currently in the US and my latest phone is a Note 3 and Verizon (CDMA). Colombia doesn't have CDMA. My Verizon Note 3 will work there, but not well. The closest spectrum match from a US carrier AT&T and I like anything in the Note series. I would like the Note 4 because it has a replaceable battery, a back that comes off so I can add a dual SIM adapter, the price, and if it comes up missing, it won't cost much to replace. However, Claro and Movistar are the two most popular networks in the country, and it appears that I see that the Note 4 and Note 5 do not support Movistar's UMTS B4, so it appears that the Note 8 is the only option if I want to support both. I've never been a band expert, so I organized the information below for your comment. The red in the Note 5 and Note 8 show the differences between them and the Note 4.
Colombian Mobile Service Providers
Claro (48%), Movistar(24%), Tigo(18%), remaining 10% are MVNOs of these.
Colombian Bands
GSM (2G) 850, 1900 (PCS) - Claro, Movistar, Tigo
UMTS B2 (1900 PCS) - Claro, Tigo
UMTS B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1) - Movistar
LTE (4G): Band 2/1900 - Movistar
LTE (4G): B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1) - Movistar, Tigo
LTE (4G): B7 (2600) - Claro, Tigo
LTE (4G): Band 38/2600 - DirectTV data
LTE (4G): Future - Colombia will "real soon" (when pigs fly) be auctioning in the 700 range 2x 15MHz blocks (Block A/B12), 2x 10MHz blocks (Block B/B12) and two 2x 5MHz blocks (Blocks C/B12&orB13, and D/B14). A supplementary 2x 2.5MHz block of 1900MHz spectrum will also be auctioned, comprising frequencies in the 1865MHz-1867.5MHz/1945MHz-1947.5MHz bands (Block E/B25).
AT&T Bands (as near as I can find)
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/at-t-united-states
GSM Supported Protocols: GPRS, EDGE
GSM (2G) 850, 1900 (PCS)
UMTS Supported Protocols: UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
UMTS (3G) B2 (1900 PCS), B5 (850)
LTE Supported Protocols: LTE, LTE-A
LTE (4G) B2 (1900 PCS), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B5 (850 CLR), B12 (700 ac), B14 (700 public safety), B17 (700 bc), B30 (2300 WCS), B40 (TDD 2300 implementing), B66 (1700 AWS)
Note 4 N910A (AT&T)
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/GLDb7/samsung-sm-n910a-galaxy-note-4-lte-a-samsung-muscat
GSM Supported Protocols GPRS, EDGE
GSM (2G) 850, 900 (E-GSM), 1800 (DCS), 1900 (PCS)
UMTS (3G) B1 (2100), B2 (1900 PCS), B5 (850), B8 (900 GSM)
UMTS Supported Protocols UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
LTE (4G) B2 (1900 PCS), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B12 (700 bc), B17 (700 bc)
Supported LTE Protocols LTE, LTE-A
Note 5 N920A (AT&T)
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/A1aaA/samsung-galaxy-note-5-sm-n920a
GSM Supported Protocols GPRS, EDGE
GSM (2G) 850, 900 (E-GSM), 1800 (DCS), 1900 (PCS)
UMTS Supported Protocols UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
UMTS (3G) B1 (2100), B2 (1900 PCS), B5 (850), B8 (900 GSM)
LTE Supported Protocols LTE, LTE-A
LTE (4G) B1 (2100), B2 (1900 PCS), B3 (1800 +), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B7 (2600), B12 (700 ac), B17 (700 bc), B20 (800 DD), B29 (700 de)
Note 8 N950U (AT&T)
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...axy-note-8-td-lte-us-sm-n950u1-samsung-baikal
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
GSM Supported Protocols GPRS, EDGE
GSM (2G) 850, 900 (E-GSM), 1800 (DCS), 1900 (PCS)
UMTS Supported Protocols UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
UMTS (3G) B1 (2100), B2 (1900 PCS), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B5 (850), B8 (900 GSM)
LTE Supported Protocols LTE, LTE-A
LTE (4G) B1 (2100), B2 (1900 PCS), B3 (1800 +), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B8 (900), B12 (700 ac), B13 (700 c), B17 (700 bc), B18 (800 Lower), B20 (800 DD), B25 (1900 +), B26 (850 +), B28 (700 APT), B29 (700 de), B30 (2300 WCS), B38 (TD 2600), B39 (TD 1900 +), B40 (TD 2300), B41 (TD 2500)
2. Another entirely different subject is how good the AT&T network is these days? (Southwest Michigan mostly with some rural.) On Verizon pre-paid I'm always connected and get 13.9 down and 9.23 up in the worst part of the day on 3 bars. How well does it do inside buildings as I'm often buried in basements and wire closets with my IT work. Any advice appreciated.
Thanks TONS!!!
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Get an unlocked international model(GSM), then you can use it anywhere, it just requires changing SIM and maybe flashing the firmware from whatever region/carrier you use the device in.
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Get an unlocked international model(GSM), then you can use it anywhere, it just requires changing SIM and maybe flashing the firmware from whatever region/carrier you use the device in.
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I run across story after story like this https://forums.att.com/t5/Samsung-D...ote4-LTE-on-the-AT-amp-T-network/td-p/4731477 while hawking online forums of the issues people run into attempting just that. In the case of the AT&T phones all use the 32-bit Snapdragon processor and chipset. The international versions that also have the required bands, use the 64-bit Exynos processor and chipset, which would be incompatible with AT&T's firmware. (Qualcomm chip's modem/radio is compatible with many frequencies but only 6 can be enabled at any one time.) Additionally, in approximately 50% of the instances where users buy even seemingly identical phones from Samsung, or from another US GSM carrier that is not an MVNO of the same network, they fail to get the firmware of the new carrier to flash to their phone, and end up swapping phones to one from the new carrier. It seems at very minimum they run into unresolvable VoLTE issues, and often even basic 4G connection issues. These problems seem to be a common only when a US carrier is in the mix. Thus, my thought is the only realistic option is to get a phone from a US GSM carrier like AT&T, that has the bands I need, and use SIMs in it from Colombia. The Note 8 is the earliest of the Note series from AT&T that has all of the bands necessary to cover all three wireless networks in Colombia.
The problem with the Note 4 is it has B4 for LTE, but not UMTS, which is the only UMTS band used by the 2nd largest wireless network in Colombia, Movistar, and reportedly the network business people prefer. I checked coverage maps hoping Movistar had LTE and VoLTE almost everywhere and wouldn't need UMTS. That turned out to be not true. They have a lot of 3G-only areas and 2G-only in a few. I checked coverage maps hoping to see that I could just use Claro. That didn't look too promising either. In fact, it looks like one would not want to cut themselves out of any of the the three. So it's either a used Note 8, or an inexpensive new AT&T phone that can cover all of the bands. If I bought a new AT&T phone with the required bands, it wouldn't be near the phone of a used Note 8, and cost more. So it is looking more and more like an AT&T Note 8, which is too bad, because from every other perspective, I'd far rather have the Note 4, even if it was the same price.
Thanks!
IT_Architect said:
I run across story after story like this https://forums.att.com/t5/Samsung-D...ote4-LTE-on-the-AT-amp-T-network/td-p/4731477 while hawking online forums of the issues people run into attempting just that. In the case of the AT&T phones all use the 32-bit Snapdragon processor and chipset. The international versions that also have the required bands, use the 64-bit Exynos processor and chipset, which would be incompatible with AT&T's firmware. (Qualcomm chip's modem/radio is compatible with many frequencies but only 6 can be enabled at any one time.) Additionally, in approximately 50% of the instances where users buy even seemingly identical phones from Samsung, or from another US GSM carrier that is not an MVNO of the same network, they fail to get the firmware of the new carrier to flash to their phone, and end up swapping phones to one from the new carrier. It seems at very minimum they run into unresolvable VoLTE issues, and often even basic 4G connection issues. These problems seem to be a common only when a US carrier is in the mix. Thus, my thought is the only realistic option is to get a phone from a US GSM carrier like AT&T, that has the bands I need, and use SIMs in it from Colombia. The Note 8 is the earliest of the Note series from AT&T that has all of the bands necessary to cover all three wireless networks in Colombia.
The problem with the Note 4 is it has B4 for LTE, but not UMTS, which is the only UMTS band used by the 2nd largest wireless network in Colombia, Movistar, and reportedly the network business people prefer. I checked coverage maps hoping Movistar had LTE and VoLTE almost everywhere and wouldn't need UMTS. That turned out to be not true. They have a lot of 3G-only areas and 2G-only in a few. I checked coverage maps hoping to see that I could just use Claro. That didn't look too promising either. In fact, it looks like one would not want to cut themselves out of any of the the three. So it's either a used Note 8, or an inexpensive new AT&T phone that can cover all of the bands. If I bought a new AT&T phone with the required bands, it wouldn't be near the phone of a used Note 8, and cost more. So it is looking more and more like an AT&T Note 8, which is too bad, because from every other perspective, I'd far rather have the Note 4, even if it was the same price.
Thanks!
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You might be able to get the AT&T device of your choice and then flash it with a different modem that has been extracted from a firmware from a different region, flashing just the modem can avoid any incompatibilities between the complete firmware packages, i.e. bootloader, kernel, system differences wouldn't be an issue because those aren't being modified.
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You might be able to get the AT&T device of your choice and then flash it with a different modem that has been extracted from a firmware from a different region, flashing just the modem can avoid any incompatibilities between the complete firmware packages, i.e. bootloader, kernel, system differences wouldn't be an issue because those aren't being modified. Sent from my LGL84VL using Tapatalk
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I like the idea if I can find one that that uses the same processor and it can be done without tripping KNOX. My thought is I would be safer with Samsung Pay than a real credit card...when they get around to implementing it there. LOL!
Something I wish they would do is implement a method to reset KNOX and return it to an exact factory image.
IT_Architect said:
I like the idea if I can find one that that uses the same processor and it can be done without tripping KNOX. My thought is I would be safer with Samsung Pay than a real credit card...when they get around to implementing it there. LOL!
Something I wish they would do is implement a method to reset KNOX and return it to an exact factory image.
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Flashing a stock modem from a firmware for a device that is the same model but from a different region, won't trip Knox, that I know of. Its a stock file so it should pass all security and signature checks by the bootloader/kernel.
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I believe in order to not trigger KNOX, I would have to flash the entire firmware because the modems and bootloaders require the ROM to be of the same firmware. If I do that, I will have a carrier problem. If I don't do that, I would have a KNOX problem.
IT_Architect said:
I believe in order to not trigger KNOX, I would have to flash the entire firmware because the modems and bootloaders require the ROM to be of the same firmware. If I do that, I will have a carrier problem. If I don't do that, I would have a KNOX problem.
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No, flashing a modem from a different region's firmware for THE SAME MODEL NUMBER device to use the device on a different carrier/region is a very common thing, bootloader and ROM differences aren't an issue, that I know of. If the model numbers on the devices are the same, you can mix and match the firmwares and their parts, certain things might not work as they should, though, but that's more carrier related than it is hardware/software related.
What you're saying would probably happen if you flashed a modem from A DIFFERENT MODEL NUMBER device.
But, I could be wrong, I'm almost sure that I'm not though. I've seen different modems used many times, even done it myself on a few devices.
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No, flashing a modem from a different region's firmware for THE SAME MODEL NUMBER device to use the devive on a different carrier/region is a very common thing, bootloader and ROM differences aren't an issue, that I know of. If the model numbers on the devices are the same, you can mix and match the firmwares and their parts, certain things might not work as they should, though, but that's more carrier related than it is hardware/software related. What you're saying would probably happen if you flashed a modem from A DIFFERENT MODEL NUMBER device.
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Got it! I just went looking for what you suggested. Using FrequencyCheck.com, I learned there isn't a modem combination that works in the Note 4 line, nor Note 5. Grrr!
Claro (think Verizon) and Tigo(think Altel) are no problem with their 3G UMTS on B2. The stickler turns out to be Movistar(think AT&T), Colombia's second largest, and most advanced carrier, because their 3G UMTS is on B4. Movistar has VoLTE everywhere they have LTE, but there is plenty of 3G-only between cities. It isn't a good idea to cut yourself out of any of the three. It would be a stretch to give up Tigo, whose claim to fame is to service pockets the other two don't, and you might end up living. However, Movistar could very easily turn out to be the only one capable of usable data in your area.
I hate so say it, but it looks like there will be an AT&T Note 8 with its not-easily-replaceable-battery in my near future.
IT_Architect said:
Got it! I just went looking for what you suggested. Using FrequencyCheck.com, I learned there isn't a modem combination that works in the Note 4 line, nor Note 5. Grrr!
Claro (think Verizon) and Tigo(think Altel) are no problem with their 3G UMTS on B2. The stickler turns out to be Movistar(think AT&T), Colombia's second largest, and most advanced carrier, because their 3G UMTS is on B4. Movistar has VoLTE everywhere they have LTE, but there is plenty of 3G-only between cities. It isn't a good idea to cut yourself out of any of the three. It would be a stretch to give up Tigo, whose claim to fame is to service pockets the other two don't. Movistar could very easily turn out to be the only one capable of usable data in your area.
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I'm not familiar with your region, the carriers in that region or which devices would have what support or not. I was just offering commonly used solutions for switching carrier/region.
Maybe someone else can provide more specific info for your particular scenario.
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You've done a FABULOUS job helping me. Because the stars didn't align isn't anything either of us could have predicted. Figuring out what won't work is part of figuring out what will. :laugh:
IT_Architect said:
Got it! I just went looking for what you suggested. Using FrequencyCheck.com, I learned there isn't a modem combination that works in the Note 4 line, nor Note 5. Grrr!
Claro (think Verizon) and Tigo(think Altel) are no problem with their 3G UMTS on B2. The stickler turns out to be Movistar(think AT&T), Colombia's second largest, and most advanced carrier, because their 3G UMTS is on B4. Movistar has VoLTE everywhere they have LTE, but there is plenty of 3G-only between cities. It isn't a good idea to cut yourself out of any of the three. It would be a stretch to give up Tigo, whose claim to fame is to service pockets the other two don't, and you might end up living. However, Movistar could very easily turn out to be the only one capable of usable data in your area.
I hate so say it, but it looks like there will be an AT&T Note 8 with its not-easily-replaceable-battery in my near future.
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I'd start digging a little deeper and look at other Samsung model numbers with the exact same hardware, i.e. same CPU and same radio. If you find other models with the same hardware, you might find one out of the bunch that has a modem that you can use. It will be tricky, but, if there are enough devices that match, the better the chances of one of them having a modem that is compatible with your hardware and region/carrier.
It would require some intense and in depth comparison of all the minutia of details at the software level, comparing bootloader and modems to find a firmware that has a modem that is compatible with your bootloader and hardware at the bootloader/kernel/coding level. In some cases, a modem can be made compatible by modifying the bootloader from your firmware thrn flashing the bootloader to allow the modem to flash or by modifying the modem to make it compatible with your stock bootloader(or the modified bootloader) before flashing.
It's tricky, but can be done. And it doesn't cause a Knox issue as long as the files are signed correctly. It's risky, modified bootloaders and modems can hardbrick devices, but if modified correctly, it usually works.
I don't have the knowledge to make those kinds of modifications but others here have done things at that level. Members here use modified stock ROMs, stock kernels, bootloader and modems more than you'd think. In a lot of cases, this is the only kind of modifications that Samsung devices with locked bootloaders have the option to use.
Then again, it would probably be much less hassle to buy a device that you can confirm is viable for what you need.
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Then again, it would probably be much less hassle to buy a device that you can confirm is viable for what you need.
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This is what I've summarized based on what I've learned.
U.S. lay of the land:
- AT&T is the GSM network in the U.S. most likely to be able to service you satisfactorily.
- AT&T as a rule does not work with carrier unlocked U.S. or international phones from a practical standpoint. Even IF you manage to get it to work somewhat with their network, you will have at least these service issues:
1) AT&T will not do carrier aggregation therefore maximum download is around 17mbps and upload is around 6mbps while with an AT&T branded phone download is 82mbps and upload is 44mbps.
2) AT&T will not provision LTE advanced features such as VoLTE, Wi-Fi calling, or advanced messaging.
3) AT&T will not recognize the IMEI in order to push secondary LTE bands which in turn also throttles bandwidth.
- AT&T works grudgingly, with T-Mobile phones. Government edict forced them support B12 as well as their B17 (a subset of B12) to be interoperable with T-Mobile. If you go with the T-Mobile phone to pickup the new B71 600 band, you lose out on the AT&T B17 range of B12, which is well managed by AT&T.
- The U.S. Unlocked Note 9 SM-N960UZBAXAA (128GB) is the best of all worlds. It has the SnapDragon, all of the AT&T bands and T-Mobile bands for the current and foreseeable future, AND all of the Colombian band for the current and foreseeable future, AND all of the CDMA bands for Verizon and Sprint. It is in most cases less expensive than the carrier versions. The problem, as mentioned, is getting it to work well with AT&T. I would guess the same situation exists with other carriers as well, and that it would require legislation, like they did with cable companies, to change that.
Summary:
- I need to pick an AT&T branded phone, and get it unlocked in order to work in the U.S.
- The phone needs to be able to also do the Colombian bands.
Colombian Bands
GSM (2G) 850, 1900 (PCS) - Claro, Movistar, Tigo
UMTS (3G) B2 (1900 PCS) - Claro, Tigo
UMTS (3G) B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1) - Movistar
LTE (4G): Band 2/1900 - Movistar
LTE (4G): B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1) - Movistar, Tigo
LTE (4G): B7 (2600) - Claro, Tigo
LTE (4G): Band 38/2600 - DirectTV data
LTE (4G): Future - Colombia will "real soon" (when pigs fly) be auctioning in the 700 range 2x 15MHz blocks (Block A/B12), 2x 10MHz blocks (Block B/B12) and two 2x 5MHz blocks (Blocks C/B12&orB13, and D/B14). A supplementary 2x 2.5MHz block of 1900MHz spectrum will also be auctioned, comprising frequencies in the 1865MHz-1867.5MHz/1945MHz-1947.5MHz bands (Block E/B25).
AT&T Bands
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/at-t-united-states
GSM Supported Protocols: GPRS, EDGE
GSM (2G) 850, 1900 (PCS)
UMTS Supported Protocols: UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
UMTS (3G) B2 (1900 PCS), B5 (850)
LTE Supported Protocols: LTE, LTE-A
LTE (4G) B2 (1900 PCS), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B5 (850 CLR), B12 (700 abc), B14 (700 public safety), B17 (700 bc), B30 (2300 WCS), B40 (TDD 2300 implementing), B66 (1700 AWS)
Note 4 N910A (AT&T) - Note 4, by far my favorite, and Note 5 fail because they do not support Movistar's UMTS (3G) B4[/B]
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/GLDb7/samsung-sm-n910a-galaxy-note-4-lte-a-samsung-muscat
GSM Supported Protocols GPRS, EDGE
GSM (2G) 850, 900 (E-GSM), 1800 (DCS), 1900 (PCS)
UMTS Supported Protocols UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
UMTS (3G) B1 (2100), B2 (1900 PCS), B5 (850), B8 (900 GSM)
LTE (4G) B2 (1900 PCS), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B12 (700 abc), B17 (700 bc), B29 (700 de),
Supported LTE Protocols LTE, LTE-A
Note 8 N950U (AT&T) - Note 8 & 9 support all bands for all three Colombian carriers current, and the proposed bands
*Differences between Note 8 and Note 4 are highlighted in red.
Note 9 adds B66/AWS-3 which is used by U.S. T-Mobile's 4G, but not T-Mobile's new B71 (600) that they are rapidly deploying. That is only available on the T-Mobile model.
*Differences between Note 9 and Note 4 and 8 are highlighted in blue.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...axy-note-8-td-lte-us-sm-n950u1-samsung-baikal
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
GSM Supported Protocols GPRS, EDGE
GSM (2G) 850, 900 (E-GSM), 1800 (DCS), 1900 (PCS)
UMTS Supported Protocols UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
UMTS (3G) B1 (2100), B2 (1900 PCS), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B5 (850), B8 (900 GSM)
TD-SCDMA (3G): B34(2010), B39(1880)
LTE Supported Protocols LTE, LTE-A
LTE (4G) B1 (2100), B2 (1900 PCS), B3 (1800 +), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B8 (900), B12 (700 ac), B13 (700 c), B17 (700 bc), B18 (800 Lower), B20 (800 DD), B25 (1900 +), B26 (850 +), B28 (700 APT), B29 (700 de), B30 (2300 WCS), B38 (TD 2600), B39 (TD 1900 +), B40 (TD 2300), B41 (TD 2500), B66/AWS-3
Summary
I can come up with other phones that will straddle the fence, and some are quite inexpensive. However, if I want a Note, I can't go less than the Note 8 to do it.
Thanks for all of your help!