Global LTE on which model? - Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S Questions & Answers

I read different statements about global LTE on Mi Mix 2S.
I don't trust any preorder page to answer my questions.
Does anyone know which models will have global LTE support?

in a german article it was stated that only the "king variant" with 256GB will have the global LTE modem. The article also states that this will only be a downside for the 128GB and 64GB Version if you live outside of Europe.
https://www.notebookcheck.com/Achtu...-Modem-nur-in-der-King-Variante.292636.0.html

Lamensis said:
in a german article it was stated that only the "king variant" with 256GB will have the global LTE modem. The article also states that this will only be a downside for the 128GB and 64GB Version if you live outside of Europe.
https://www.notebookcheck.com/Achtu...-Modem-nur-in-der-King-Variante.292636.0.html
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*Edited*
See reply below. This is correct that 256MB model supports more frequencies, altho, 64/128GB models support all widely used in EU frequencies as well, but still you need to check your country/operator frequencies and compare to the list below (use https://www.frequencycheck.com/ for example to find out frequencies used by your operator/operators in your country).

criosray said:
I believe all models are the same - they support all of the frequencies. The difference between 256GB/8GB and 64GB/6GB is just that - internal storage capacity and RAM.
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Actually that article is correct - if you check the specs on the official website, under "全球频段", it shows that only the "尊享版" (i.e. the 8GB/256GB version) gets the full global band support. All other "normal" editions (标准版) gets less supported bands, although it contains a few more bands compared to other Xiaomi phones.
Here is the list of bands supported in each edition, for your convenience:
Supreme Edition:
GSM: B2 / B3 / B5 / B8
CDMA1X/EVDO: BC0 / BC1 / BC6 / BC10
WCDMA: B1 / B2 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B6 / B8 / B9 / B19
TD-SCDMA: B34 / B39
TD-LTE: B34 / B38 / B39 / B40 / B41
FDD-LTE: B1 / B2 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B7 / B8 / B12 / B13 / B17 / B18 / B19 / B20 / B25 / B26 / B27 /B 28 / B29 / B30
Standard Edition:
GSM: B2 / B3 / B5 / B8
CDMA1X/EVDO: BC0
WCDMA: B1 / B2 / B4 / B5 / B8
TD-SCDMA: B34 / B39
TD-LTE: B34 / B38 / B39 / B40 / B41
FDD-LTE: B1 / B2 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B7 / B8 / B12 / B17 / B20
B41 supports 2496-2690 MHz full-bandwidth
LTE B41 4 antenna technology supporting 4x4 MIMO
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Would I have to buy the "King" model if I want to use this in the USA with T-Mobile - MetroPCS?

SantinoInc said:
Would I have to buy the "King" model if I want to use this in the USA with T-Mobile - MetroPCS?
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Is the 64gb version's 4G LTE supported in Europe as well as Norway and Sweden?
It says chinese LTE on the xiaomi website, however it seems like Europe would work just as well, or am I wrong?

as far as i understood, you need the king variant for USA

Standard edition should work fine in US on T-Mobile, AT&T and their MVNOs. Not sure about Verizon and Sprint.

Different info from you guys. Doesmypohonework.net
doesn't have this phone listed yet. I guess I'll ask the potential seller

All you need to do is know if your carrier supports bringing your own device and compare the bands.

SantinoInc said:
Would I have to buy the "King" model if I want to use this in the USA with T-Mobile - MetroPCS?
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chinese here,no,
the premium version is only needed for sprint and verizon

Mexican here, regular model should be compatible with Telcel
It uses B2/B5 for 3G
And B4 for LTE

On the gearbest preorder page for the "globabl 6gb/64gb" version, they state that it will support all the bands that the 8gb model supports. They back it up again in the customer questions section.
Do we know if the global version of the phone is going to support more bands than the chinese version, or are gearbest just misinformed?

alec801 said:
On the gearbest preorder page for the "globabl 6gb/64gb" version, they state that it will support all the bands that the 8gb model supports. They back it up again in the customer questions section.
Do we know if the global version of the phone is going to support more bands than the chinese version, or are gearbest just misinformed?
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I just checked the specs on the Xiaomi Hong Kong website (as units sold in HK will come with the global rom), and found that all global version units will support the extended bands, regardless of size. Another interesting thing I noticed is that they don't show the 8GB/256GB version at all, which may mean it is exclusive to Mainland China.

naraik-l said:
I just checked the specs on the Xiaomi Hong Kong website (as units sold in HK will come with the global rom), and found that all global version units will support the extended bands, regardless of size. Another interesting thing I noticed is that they don't show the 8GB/256GB version at all, which may mean it is exclusive to Mainland China.
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Thanks for the news, will keep a close eye on this. Had almost written off the phone because I would like B28 but otherwise am happy with the 64gb model. 256gb is much more expensive than I am prepared to pay.
M.

seems they add the 6G + 128 ROM version but no 8G + 256 ROM

naraik-l said:
I just checked the specs on the Xiaomi Hong Kong website (as units sold in HK will come with the global rom), and found that all global version units will support the extended bands, regardless of size. Another interesting thing I noticed is that they don't show the 8GB/256GB version at all, which may mean it is exclusive to Mainland China.
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hardtheory said:
seems they add the 6G + 128 ROM version but no 8G + 256 ROM
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There's already a china 256gb with global bands.
M.

mattman83 said:
There's already a china 256gb with global bands.
M.
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I think we are in the same boat; looking for the mi mix 2s but but lte band compatibility information are not clear at all, some merchant say extend compatibility for global version 64 go and other say no compatibility for b28 lte band, and when you ask for the seller they even don't know how to answer, so cannot thrust them... Wait for a customer test to get more information...

I contacted Xiaomi HK to ask:
Dear Sir/Madam,
Thanks for inquiry.
This is Hongkong customer service centre. Our Mi Mix2S is global version. We can offer the network frequency and band for you to refer, but I have to remind you that our goods can be only ship to Hongkong:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900MHz (B2/B3/B5/B8)
WCDMA 800/850/900/1700/1800/AWS-1/1900/2100MHz (B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B6/B8/B9/B19)
TD-SCDMA 1900/2000MHz (B34/B39)
CDMA BC0/BC1/BC10
TDD-LTE B34/B38/B39/B40/B41
FDD-LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B27/B28/B29/B30
Thank you for your support and attention towards XiaoMi.
Any other questions,please feel free to contact us:[email protected] .
Best Regards.
—Rainy
So they appear to confirm that the Global 6GB version has all bands.

Guys I don't know of this is normal but bought one with free shipping on eBay local usa seller good feedback. It was stated as global version which I didn't think was out yet. Anyway I got it and appears to be with all languages. Working on AT&T LTE perfectly. Phone was $579 shipped, got it in 2 days.

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S7 versions and their band frequencies in the US

Hi everyone,
I'm planning on buying the new S7 but I'm just interested in the Snapdragon version. Here in Europe we only get the chance to buy the Exynos one I will be visiting the US in the following months, and I would like to know if there is any US version for the S7 that has the following bands:
2G/GSM: 900, 1800 MHz.
3G/WCDMA: 900, 2100 MHz.
4G/LTE: 800, 1800 and 2600Mhz. - 1500 MHz will be deployed in a near future in Spain, so it's not so important -
I have been checking on the internet about several variants, but I didn't find any trustworthy source with that information. Thank you for your time guys!
Hey
I'd like to know the same.
I don't want the exynos one.
The snapdragon 820 model will get Cyanogenmod and other roms..
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CDMA 1X and EvDO Rev 0/RevA; LTE (Domestic) B13, B4, B2, B5
GLOBAL NETWORK
LTE (Global) B3, B7, B20; GSM Quad B5, B8, B3, B2 (850/900/1800/1900Mhz) UMTS Quad B5, B8, B2, B1 (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); TDS CDMA 34, 39 TDD LTE 38, 39, 40, CAT 4 / CAT 6 / (CAT 9 capable)
Got this from Verizon wireless website.
Thank you Blade22222 for the information. I still don't have really clear if there is an US version that matches the bands I described on the post. I'm afraid it won't be possible. I'm trying to get some more inforation but I don't find anything
marcogz said:
Thank you Blade22222 for the information. I still don't have really clear if there is an US version that matches the bands I described on the post. I'm afraid it won't be possible. I'm trying to get some more inforation but I don't find anything
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You will be fine if you buy a US version and get it unlocked to work on any carrier globally.
You can compare the above bands from the last post with this list of frequencies to confirm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_frequency_bands
EDIT: You can also look at T-Mobile's bands here, they are almost identical the Verizon one: https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/android/samsung_galaxy_s_7#id_1299991

Carrier Aggregation? Which bands does this device support (FRD-L04)?

I can't seem to find the list of CA bands. I saw it before but can't seem to find it again.
FRD-L04 supports the following bands
GSM
850
900 (E-GSM)
1800 (DCS)
1900 (PCS)
UMTS
B1 (2100)
B2 (1900 PCS)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 (850)
LTE
B2 (1900 PCS)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 (850)
B7 (2600)
B12 (700 ac)
B17 (700 bc)
and since its an LTE-A device, Carrier aggregation is possible.
vsriram92 said:
FRD-L04 supports the following bands
GSM
850
900 (E-GSM)
1800 (DCS)
1900 (PCS)
UMTS
B1 (2100)
B2 (1900 PCS)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 (850)
LTE
B2 (1900 PCS)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 (850)
B7 (2600)
B12 (700 ac)
B17 (700 bc)
and since its an LTE-A device, Carrier aggregation is possible.
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Where did you get this information from? There's a site called FrequencyCheck claiming this, but it contradicts the information from Huawei/Honor - and Honor's live chat confirms it is incorrect. I'm not going to have my Honor 8 for a few weeks, but I sincerely hope this information is incorrect.
The official information (from https://store.hihonor.com/us/honor-8/specification ) is:
LTE FDD: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B20, WCDMA: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8, GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
Interband CA: B2-B17,B5-B4,B5-B2,B2-B12,B2-B4 Intraband Continuous CA: B2
Given I plan to use this phone in the UK, I'm obviously seriously hoping that this is the correct set of info...
AllieKitty said:
Where did you get this information from? There's a site called FrequencyCheck claiming this, but it contradicts the information from Huawei/Honor - and Honor's live chat confirms it is incorrect. I'm not going to have my Honor 8 for a few weeks, but I sincerely hope this information is incorrect.
The official information (from https://store.hihonor.com/us/honor-8/specification ) is:
LTE FDD: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B20, WCDMA: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8, GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
Interband CA: B2-B17,B5-B4,B5-B2,B2-B12,B2-B4 Intraband Continuous CA: B2
Given I plan to use this phone in the UK, I'm obviously seriously hoping that this is the correct set of info...
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Oh. Got that info from that FrequencyCheck website only.
According to the Official website it has B8 and B20 in addition to the bands I mentioned in my post.
If confusion over sources is the problem, why not take a look at the FCC's tests? https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...id=RVnBofSaGkQDhYOqmiLX/A==&fcc_id=QISFRD-L04
The RFExposure document says that only the downlink of Release 10 CA is supported, with a max of two carriers. It does not have R10 uplink CA, ESC-FDMA or Uplink MIMO, or any other R10 features. Uplink comms are R8 specs. (Sect 1.3.3)
(7.1.17 has some more info on CA.)
In that same document, there's a power reduction specsheet showing the distribution of each band over various antennas. From there, it looks like these are the supported bands:
GSM:
- 850
- 1900
UMTS:
- II
- IV
- V
LTE:
- 2
- 4
- 5
- 7
- 12
- 17
(Sect 1.3.2)
Section 1.3 has a really clear listing, since it's the EUT (Equipment Under Test) Description. It lines up with the above information.
So @AllieKitty, the FCC doesn't mention anything about LTE/UMTS B1, B3, B8 or B20, not does it say GSM900 and GSM1800 are supported. It's possible they just didn't test those bands, since they aren't really used here, but I think they'd still be listed in the Device Configuration.
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AllieKitty said:
Where did you get this information from? There's a site called FrequencyCheck claiming this, but it contradicts the information from Huawei/Honor - and Honor's live chat confirms it is incorrect. I'm not going to have my Honor 8 for a few weeks, but I sincerely hope this information is incorrect.
The official information (from https://store.hihonor.com/us/honor-8/specification ) is:
LTE FDD: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B20, WCDMA: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8, GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
Interband CA: B2-B17,B5-B4,B5-B2,B2-B12,B2-B4 Intraband Continuous CA: B2
Given I plan to use this phone in the UK, I'm obviously seriously hoping that this is the correct set of info...
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Is there a reason to not get the FRD-L09 (VAT or something)? It supports LTE 3, 7, 20.
Zacharee1 said:
If confusion over sources is the problem, why not take a look at the FCC's tests? https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...id=RVnBofSaGkQDhYOqmiLX/A==&fcc_id=QISFRD-L04
The RFExposure document says that only the downlink of Release 10 CA is supported, with a max of two carriers. It does not have R10 uplink CA, ESC-FDMA or Uplink MIMO, or any other R10 features. Uplink comms are R8 specs. (Sect 1.3.3)
(7.1.17 has some more info on CA.)
In that same document, there's a power reduction specsheet showing the distribution of each band over various antennas. From there, it looks like these are the supported bands:
GSM:
- 850
- 1900
UMTS:
- II
- IV
- V
LTE:
- 2
- 4
- 5
- 7
- 12
- 17
(Sect 1.3.2)
Section 1.3 has a really clear listing, since it's the EUT (Equipment Under Test) Description. It lines up with the above information.
So @AllieKitty, the FCC doesn't mention anything about LTE/UMTS B1, B3, B8 or B20, not does it say GSM900 and GSM1800 are supported. It's possible they just didn't test those bands, since they aren't really used here, but I think they'd still be listed in the Device Configuration.
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Is there a reason to not get the FRD-L09 (VAT or something)? It supports LTE 3, 7, 20.
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The FRD-L09 doesn't support bands 2, 4, and 12 though. Also, it costs a LOT more - got my L04 (in my friend's possession in the US right now) for $259.99 on Amazon.
As for the FCC... that means nothing... the L14 has the same FCC tests. ONLY bands used in the US get tested by the FCC. Which makes the band 7 tests odd, as band 7 isn't used in the US yet - but it is used in Canada. My understanding is that band 7 is a possibility for future use in the US, which is probably why this needed testing.
PS thanks for the FCC link, I found the correct list under the description of equipment in the RF test report:
FRD-L04 is subscriber equipment in the GSM/WCDMA/LTE system. The GSM frequency band includes GSM850 and
GSM900 and DCS1800 and PCS1900. The UMTS frequency band is B1 and B2 and B4 and B5 and B8. The LTE
frequency band is B1 and B2 and B3 and B4 and B5 and B7 and B8 and B12 and B17 and B20. But only GSM850 and
GSM1900MHz,UMTS frequency B2 and B4 and B5,LTE frequency B2 and B4 and B5 and B7 and B12 and B17
bands test data included in this report. The Mobile Phone implements such functions as RF signal receiving
/transmitting, LTE/HSPA/UMTS and GSM/GPRS/EDGE protocol processing, voice, video MMS service, GPS, AGPS,
NFC and WIFI etc. Externally it provides one micro SD card interface (it can also used as SIM card interface),
earphone port (to provide voice service) and one SIM card interface. FRD-L04 is single SIM smart phone. It also
provides Bluetooth module to synchronize data between a PC and the phone, or to use the built-in modem of the phone
to access the Internet with a PC, or to exchange data with other Bluetooth devices.
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AllieKitty said:
The FRD-L09 doesn't support bands 2, 4, and 12 though. Also, it costs a LOT more - got my L04 (in my friend's possession in the US right now) for $259.99 on Amazon.
As for the FCC... that means nothing... the L14 has the same FCC tests. ONLY bands used in the US get tested by the FCC. Which makes the band 7 tests odd, as band 7 isn't used in the US yet - but it is used in Canada. My understanding is that band 7 is a possibility for future use in the US, which is probably why this needed testing.
PS thanks for the FCC link, I found the correct list under the description of equipment in the RF test report:
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Glad I'm wrong
Zacharee1 said:
Glad I'm wrong
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Me too! The band 7 testing is odd. Those frequencies are used in the US for TD-LTE (as band 41). Band 7 is a theoretical possibility from my understanding but unlikely. Sprint would be in the best position to try to get their spectrum paired to use as band 7, but why? TD-LTE offers benefits FDD-LTE doesn't in efficiency. Canada uses B7 tho, so that may explain it.
Anyway, to reiterate for OP's sake in case it got lost in the crowd:
Interband CA: B2-B17,B5-B4,B5-B2,B2-B12,B2-B4 Intraband Continuous CA: B2
I have confirmed EU-version (FRD-L09) CA Combos: https://cacombos.com/device?model=FRD-L09 - only Contiguous CA seems support.

Honor 8 FRD-L04 Network Compatibility / Frequencies

Hey guys,
Does anyone know the actual Network Frequencies the Honor 8 (FRD-L04) supports? I'm finding varying results across the web and can't find one answer.
I'm going to be in the U.K. for an extended time and want to make sure the FRD-L04 supports 3G and 4G while there... Through my research, I'm quite certain that this phone supports LTE bands 3 (1800MHz), 7 (2600MHz), and 20 (800MHz) which means LTE won't be a problem in the UK...
My question is this: What 3G / UMTS frequencies does this phone support? On Best Buy it lists "1700, 1900, 2100, 850, 900" which is good because that supports UK's networks, but I can't find the same frequencies anywhere else, and Huawei hasn't been much help. As long as it supports #G frequencies 2100MHz and 900MHz, I should be good.
I attached Best Buy's specs below.
Can anyone confirm that these frequencies/bands are in fact supported by the Honor 8 FRD-L04 model?
connorhiller said:
My question is this: What 3G / UMTS frequencies] does this phone support?[/B On Best Buy it lists "1700, 1900, 2100, 850, 900" which is good because that supports UK's networks, but I can't find the same frequencies anywhere else, and Huawei hasn't been much help. As long as it supports #G frequencies 2100MHz and 900MHz, I should be good.
Can anyone confirm that these frequencies/bands are in fact supported by the Honor 8 FRD-L04 model?
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FRD-L04 = US model?
If yes:
https://store.hihonor.com/us/honor-8/specification
Hi Honor US said:
WCDMA: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8,
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
WCDMA: 384 Kbit/s (UL), 384 Kbit/s (DL),
HSPA Category 24: 5.76 Mbit/s (UL),42 Mbit/s (DL),
EDGE Class 10: 118.4 Kbit/s (UL),236.8 Kbit/s (DL),
GPRS: 40 Kbit/s (UL), 60 Kbit/s (DL)
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B1 = 2100
B2 = 1900
B4 = 1700
B5 = 850
B8 = 900
Palux said:
FRD-L04 = US model?
If yes:
https://store.hihonor.com/us/honor-8/specification
B1 = 2100
B2 = 1900
B4 = 1700
B5 = 850
B8 = 900
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Perfect. Thanks.
Doesn't WCDMA only work in the US though or should it work in England too?
This type of stuff confuses me haha.
3G in United Kingdom = 2100 MHz and 900 MHz
Depending on what UK Cell Provider you are with. You might be able to get LTE/4G coverage in the UK, I'd suggest researching UK Cell Providers first.
connorhiller said:
Hey guys,
Does anyone know the actual Network Frequencies the Honor 8 (FRD-L04) supports? I'm finding varying results across the web and can't find one answer.
I'm going to be in the U.K. for an extended time and want to make sure the FRD-L04 supports 3G and 4G while there... Through my research, I'm quite certain that this phone supports LTE bands 3 (1800MHz), 7 (2600MHz), and 20 (800MHz) which means LTE won't be a problem in the UK...
My question is this: What 3G / UMTS frequencies does this phone support? On Best Buy it lists "1700, 1900, 2100, 850, 900" which is good because that supports UK's networks, but I can't find the same frequencies anywhere else, and Huawei hasn't been much help. As long as it supports #G frequencies 2100MHz and 900MHz, I should be good.
I attached Best Buy's specs below.
Can anyone confirm that these frequencies/bands are in fact supported by the Honor 8 FRD-L04 model?
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Hi all,
I have a similar predicament. I am wanting to buy the FRD-L04, but I split my time between the USA and Australia. However, I'm confused as there seems to be multiple different sites listing different things for the LTE band capabilities of this model.
In the US, I use T-Mobile. Which looks as though it is fully covered.
In Australia, I use Telstra, which uses LTE bands 1, 3 and 28. It looks as though 1 and 3 should be fine, but no 28 (not a big deal).
Frequencycheck seems to disagree, however BestBuy and Honor's own site seem to agree. Can anyone confirm that the specs on Honor's site are accurate?
Thanks.
NoFlips said:
Hi all,
I have a similar predicament. I am wanting to buy the FRD-L04, but I split my time between the USA and Australia. However, I'm confused as there seems to be multiple different sites listing different things for the LTE band capabilities of this model.
In the US, I use T-Mobile. Which looks as though it is fully covered.
In Australia, I use Telstra, which uses LTE bands 1, 3 and 28. It looks as though 1 and 3 should be fine, but no 28 (not a big deal).
Frequencycheck seems to disagree, however BestBuy and Honor's own site seem to agree. Can anyone confirm that the specs on Honor's site are accurate?
Thanks.
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Specs in the Honor site is the accurate one. Frequency check website shows wrong info. It is happening for many devices.
You should trust the manufacturer website.

6gb ram version vs 8gb

Is there significant diffrence in work between these two versions? And what you think, will the ammount of mounted RAM memory in smartphones increase so much in e.g. next 3 years, that choose between 6gb and 8gb will matter?
I don't have an answer but I am annoyed that only the 256 version has the 8 RAM. I don't need that much HD, 128 with 8 RAM would have been nice.
Maybe someone will make a YouTube video comparing benchmark scores and opening closing apps to see if there is a difference in speed
My personal opinion would be your real world differences would be minnimla to none. 4GB is still more than capable for most users.
I got the 8gb version purely as it had the global bands. In my country to get the best reception, I need these frequencies on my phone as some phone towers do not support all frequencies.
This is worth considering. I am not sure about the situation in USA. It also depends on mobile provider.
andyphone said:
I got the 8gb version purely as it had the global bands. In my country to get the best reception, I need these frequencies on my phone as some phone towers do not support all frequencies.
This is worth considering. I am not sure about the situation in USA. It also depends on mobile provider.
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Why did you buy the Chinese version? (I'm assuming you bought the Chinese version, otherwise you would have global bands with 4gb or 6gm ram)
I'm asking this because my gf is going to China this week and I'm thinking about buying the 8gb Chinese version there (I'm from Brazil, I need 4g band 28)
Xanduba said:
Why did you buy the Chinese version? (I'm assuming you bought the Chinese version, otherwise you would have global bands with 4gb or 6gm ram)
I'm asking this because my gf is going to China this week and I'm thinking about buying the 8gb Chinese version there (I'm from Brazil, I need 4g band 28)
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the 256GB has a lot more bands even thou the 64/128GB will be able to support most countries.
https://www.mi.com/mix2s/specs/
256GB
尊享版
GSMB2 / B3 / B5 / B8
CDMA1X/EVDOBC0 / BC1 / BC6 / BC10
WCDMAB1 / B2 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B6 / B8 / B9 / B19
TD-SCDMA B34 / B39
TD-LTEB34 / B38 / B39 / B40 / B41
FDD-LTE B1 / B2 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B7 / B8 / B12 /
B13 / B17 / B18 / B19 / B20 / B25 / B26 /
B27 / B28 / B29 / B30
B41支持 2496-2690 MHz 全带宽
LTE B41 4天线技术,可支持 4×4 MIMO
64/128GB
标准版
GSMB2 / B3 / B5 / B8
CDMA1X/EVDO BC0
WCDMAB1 / B2 / B4 / B5 / B8
TD-SCDMAB34 / B39
TD-LTEB34 / B38 / B39 / B40 / B41
FDD-LTEB1 / B2 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B7 /
B8 / B12 / B17 / B20
B41支持 2496-2690 MHz 全带宽
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Which Int'l Model For Canada ... SM-N975F/DS or SM-N9750

Hi All,
Considering getting a Note 10+, 512 GB, 12 GB RAM in Aura Flow Colour.
I am in Canada, and I don't like the local models here. I am playing to buy international model via eBay (from a trusted seller from before when I obtained Note 8 and Note 9), pdaplaza or wondamobile
I do need Dual-SIM (for work / personal).
But recently it appears that the Snapdragon chipset: 855 in Model (SM-N9750) has been "coming on top" of the Samsung's Exynos 9825 chipset found in SM-N975F/DS, even there an article published for the S10+ comparison on XDA.
Therefore, aside from obtaining root (I really don't need it), in terms of software / security updates + patches - what's the trend like?
Only reason I am considering the SM-N9750 - because it has the Snap chip, it would have support for most if not all bands of LTE in Canada used by Rogers, Bell and Telus.
I am on Rogers by the way.
Any suggestions or comments would be nice.
Thanks!
karthigan said:
Hi All,
Considering getting a Note 10+, 512 GB, 12 GB RAM in Aura Flow Colour.
I am in Canada, and I don't like the local models here. I am playing to buy international model via eBay (from a trusted seller from before when I obtained Note 8 and Note 9), pdaplaza or wondamobile
I do need Dual-SIM (for work / personal).
But recently it appears that the Snapdragon chipset: 855 in Model (SM-N9750) has been "coming on top" of the Samsung's Exynos 9825 chipset found in SM-N975F/DS, even there an article published for the S10+ comparison on XDA.
Therefore, aside from obtaining root (I really don't need it), in terms of software / security updates + patches - what's the trend like?
Only reason I am considering the SM-N9750 - because it has the Snap chip, it would have support for most if not all bands of LTE in Canada used by Rogers, Bell and Telus.
I am on Rogers by the way.
Any suggestions or comments would be nice.
Thanks!
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Im pretty sure that the differences between the chipsets wil be too small to notice.
And which chipset will canada receive btw?
JamesYoutt said:
Im pretty sure that the differences between the chipsets wil be too small to notice.
And which chipset will canada receive btw?
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Canada, for its wireless carriers is getting the Snapdragon variant. But in Canada, we do not have Dual Sim. That's why I need to go to the international versions.
karthigan said:
Canada, for its wireless carriers is getting the Snapdragon variant. But in Canada, we do not have Dual Sim. That's why I need to go to the international versions.
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Dont the international versions incorporate the exynos chipset anyways?
JamesYoutt said:
Dont the international versions incorporate the exynos chipset anyways?
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This is where I need clarification - the true international version I believe is based on Exynos Chipset released by Samsung and not the Snapdragon.
But Samsung has been very quiet about their chipset in comparison to the Snapdragon.
For different markets, due to the LTE bandwidth channels support, Snapdragon variant is used. instead f Exynos. Not sure why Samsung just doesn't support all bandwidth channels across the entire world.
I just need to know, if this time around, if I get the Snapdragon variant with Dual Sim (SM-N9750), would the device gets software updates + security patches slower or not fast as / not much as the Exynos variant.
So, hoping someone can clear it up, if I should go with Exynos or Snapdragon Dual-Sim variant.
Thanks!
karthigan said:
This is where I need clarification - the true international version I believe is based on Exynos Chipset released by Samsung and not the Snapdragon.
But Samsung has been very quiet about their chipset in comparison to the Snapdragon.
For different markets, due to the LTE bandwidth channels support, Snapdragon variant is used. instead f Exynos. Not sure why Samsung just doesn't support all bandwidth channels across the entire world.
I just need to know, if this time around, if I get the Snapdragon variant with Dual Sim (SM-N9750), would the device gets software updates + security patches slower or not fast as / not much as the Exynos variant.
So, hoping someone can clear it up, if I should go with Exynos or Snapdragon Dual-Sim variant.
Thanks!
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There are some benchmarking results available now for the Exynos chip.
JamesYoutt said:
Dont the international versions incorporate the exynos chipset anyways?
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Sort of.
EU, UK, asia and some middle eastern countries get exynos.
Hk, china and latin America get snapdragons but without the crappy locked bootloader than north america gets and dual sim capabilities.
Its been this way for a few years
Also keep in mind especially on rogers that any android device that isnt Rogers branded will lose some features.
Wifi calling and voLTE to name 2.
Also samsung pay will not work out of the box either at least on exynos.
Not sure which would get faster updates but ive had alot of exynos devices and they are quick to get updates
force70 said:
Sort of.
EU, UK, asia and some middle eastern countries get exynos.
Hk, china and latin America get snapdragons but without the crappy locked bootloader than north america gets and dual sim capabilities.
Its been this way for a few years
Also keep in mind especially on rogers that any android device that isnt Rogers branded will lose some features.
Wifi calling and voLTE to name 2.
Also samsung pay will not work out of the box either at least on exynos.
Not sure which would get faster updates but ive had alot of exynos devices and they are quick to get updates
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So, is the SM-N9750, which is a snapdragon variant, comes with a unlocked bootloader?
Because the North American variant, with the same snapdragon chips, does not come with unlocked bootloader.
karthigan said:
So, is the SM-N9750, which is a snapdragon variant, comes with a unlocked bootloader?
Because the North American variant, with the same snapdragon chips, does not come with unlocked bootloader.
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If past history over the last few years holds true yes that is correct.
That said it never sees the amount of development that the exynos does. I'm not even sure if the unlocked snapdragon S10 plus ever even got twrp on it.
force70 said:
If past history over the last few years holds true yes that is correct.
That said it never sees the amount of development that the exynos does. I'm not even sure if the unlocked snapdragon S10 plus ever even got twrp on it.
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Thanks force70
However, with your honest opinion and technical expertise (ignoring root & TWRP aside), for someone like me, who needs dual SIM as well as support for many of the LTE bands as possible (as I primary based in North America 90% time of the year), the SM-N9750 is better then then SM-N975F/DS?
Also, I was made aware, that if I wanted to trade-in the Note 10+ in the future, thru offical channels (Samsung, carriers in Canada), they do not accept rooted phones, I would have to explorer the other private sale venues. I doubt most people will buy a rooted phones, as their primary banking apps might fail to work with rooting. I know there are ways around it, but it might be difficult explaining to someone who is not aware of rooting terminology and benefits.
Also, I reviewed some articles about the Exynos variant under-performing compared to the Snap Dragon variant? Therefore, the SM-N9750 is better then then SM-N975F/DS...
What do you think?
karthigan said:
Thanks force70
However, with your honest opinion and technical expertise (ignoring root & TWRP aside), for someone like me, who needs dual SIM as well as support for many of the LTE bands as possible (as I primary based in North America 90% time of the year), the SM-N9750 is better then then SM-N975F/DS?
Also, I was made aware, that if I wanted to trade-in the Note 10+ in the future, thru offical channels (Samsung, carriers in Canada), they do not accept rooted phones, I would have to explorer the other private sale venues. I doubt most people will buy a rooted phones, as their primary banking apps might fail to work with rooting. I know there are ways around it, but it might be difficult explaining to someone who is not aware of rooting terminology and benefits.
Also, I reviewed some articles about the Exynos variant under-performing compared to the Snap Dragon variant? Therefore, the SM-N9750 is better then then SM-N975F/DS...
What do you think?
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You cant trade in a non north american device at all so exynos or a non north American snap wont matter in this regard.
You are 100% correct about the exynos underperforming as compared to the snap as well as getting worse battery life. So in this area the snap is definitely superior 100%
Will it possible to flash SM-N9750 with SM-N975U firmware? I'm planing to do the same and get one from Hong Kong.
majd00shka said:
Will it possible to flash SM-N9750 with SM-N975U firmware? I'm planing to do the same and get one from Hong Kong.
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No, but mentalmuso has a custom ROM with u(carrier) features.
Hi @karthigan I'm wondering if you found an answer to your question? I'm also in Canada on a Note8 DUOS - Bell and T-Mobile. I found specs on Frequency Check for the SM-N975F/DS that indicate this phone will work on both carriers, but they don't have specs for the SM-99750/DS model - which has different bands - and I am also wondering about the Exynos vs. Snapdragon.
Did you, or anyone else have any definitive comparison/answer on this?
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Hi @karthigan I'm wondering if you found an answer to your question? I'm also in Canada on a Note8 DUOS - Bell and T-Mobile. I found specs on Frequency Check for the SM-N975F/DS that indicate this phone will work on both carriers, but they don't have specs for the SM-99750/DS model - which has different bands - and I am also wondering about the Exynos vs. Snapdragon.
Did you, or anyone else have any definitive comparison/answer on this?
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Hi,
I ended up getting SM-N9750 model.
My personal SIM is with Rogers and my business SIM is with Bell.
I have VOLTE & Wi-Fi calling working with Bell, however, it does not work with Rogers, as Rogers does not activate VOLTE or Wi-Fi Calling on external purchased (non-Rogers) phones.
So far, the signal strength always displays 4G+ for both of my SIMs - which I am presuming it is the same as LTE or LTE+ (otherwise known as LTE-A)
If you are talking about bands, here it is for the SM-N9750:
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM)
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(850), B28(700)
TDD B34(2010), B38(2600), B39(1900), B40(2300), B41(2500)
For me, Rogers: which uses GSM and UMTS on 850 MHz (Band 5) and 1900 MHz (Band 2), and LTE on 700 MHz (Band 12/17), 1900 MHz (Band 2), 2600 MHz (Band 7), and 1700/2100 MHz AWS (Band 4)
&
Bell needs: B2 (1900), B5 (850), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B7 (2600)
Therefore, with the exception of Band 17 for Rogers, which is not supported by SM-N9750.
I am getting between 75 Mbps - 150 Mbps , which varies from location to location, building to building, basement to basement (which is worse, which is expected), etc.
I am happy with it overall.
Hi @karthigan - thank you for your prompt reply, and feedback! Are those specs off the box (or other official source)? I even tried that model without the /DS at the end and it's not listed on https://www.frequencycheck.com/ but maybe they will add it. I'm going to email them. The 975 F/DS model does pop up and give 100% T-Mobile compatibility but Bell shows 80% for the LTE - screenshots attached. I'm still interesting in comparing.
Do you have a link to the article you referred to in your OP re comparing these two models on XDA? I'd be interested to read that thread.
Thanks!
Also was the 9750 DUOS available in several colours? And did you buy it off Ebay? I almost bought my last Note 8 DUOS off of Ebay from a "trusted seller" but found they were selling the Hong Kong Snapadragon version, not the Exynos version. Thankfully I was able to call them out on it and get a refund before the phone shipped.
Finally, was there any issue with region locking on that phone you bought? Did you buy it from a seller that opened it before shipping or did it simply just not have this problem?
LOL I think that's it for now...
@karthigan, thank you so much for your report. You said you got between 75 Mbps - 150 Mbps. Is it with Bell or with Rogers? If it was with Rogers, what was the number for using Bell? I just notice that SM-N9750 doesn't support band B29 unlike the Canadian version. I am wondering how much of that will affect LTE-A carrier aggregration (CA) when using Bell. Can someone comment on this? Thanks!
karthigan said:
Hi,
I ended up getting SM-N9750 model.
My personal SIM is with Rogers and my business SIM is with Bell.
I have VOLTE & Wi-Fi calling working with Bell, however, it does not work with Rogers, as Rogers does not activate VOLTE or Wi-Fi Calling on external purchased (non-Rogers) phones.
So far, the signal strength always displays 4G+ for both of my SIMs - which I am presuming it is the same as LTE or LTE+ (otherwise known as LTE-A)
If you are talking about bands, here it is for the SM-N9750:
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM)
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(850), B28(700)
TDD B34(2010), B38(2600), B39(1900), B40(2300), B41(2500)
For me, Rogers: which uses GSM and UMTS on 850 MHz (Band 5) and 1900 MHz (Band 2), and LTE on 700 MHz (Band 12/17), 1900 MHz (Band 2), 2600 MHz (Band 7), and 1700/2100 MHz AWS (Band 4)
&
Bell needs: B2 (1900), B5 (850), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B7 (2600)
Therefore, with the exception of Band 17 for Rogers, which is not supported by SM-N9750.
I am getting between 75 Mbps - 150 Mbps , which varies from location to location, building to building, basement to basement (which is worse, which is expected), etc.
I am happy with it overall.
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I can confirm that the version you have bought is not compatible with Freedom mobile. You can text and use data but cannot make and receive calls. I just bought this model.
Hi everyone, thank you for this thread, has been very informative. I always use the dual sim versions of samsung and the time arrived to exchange my note 8 SM-N950F. I am in Canada and the website will my phone work displays for both models that 2G will not work, in your opinion can this be a problem?
Thanks in advance
karthigan said:
Hi,
I ended up getting SM-N9750 model.
My personal SIM is with Rogers and my business SIM is with Bell.
I have VOLTE & Wi-Fi calling working with Bell, however, it does not work with Rogers, as Rogers does not activate VOLTE or Wi-Fi Calling on external purchased (non-Rogers) phones.
So far, the signal strength always displays 4G+ for both of my SIMs - which I am presuming it is the same as LTE or LTE+ (otherwise known as LTE-A)
If you are talking about bands, here it is for the SM-N9750:
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM)
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(850), B28(700)
TDD B34(2010), B38(2600), B39(1900), B40(2300), B41(2500)
For me, Rogers: which uses GSM and UMTS on 850 MHz (Band 5) and 1900 MHz (Band 2), and LTE on 700 MHz (Band 12/17), 1900 MHz (Band 2), 2600 MHz (Band 7), and 1700/2100 MHz AWS (Band 4)
&
Bell needs: B2 (1900), B5 (850), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B7 (2600)
Therefore, with the exception of Band 17 for Rogers, which is not supported by SM-N9750.
I am getting between 75 Mbps - 150 Mbps , which varies from location to location, building to building, basement to basement (which is worse, which is expected), etc.
I am happy with it overall.
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Hi even im planning to get the SM-N9750/DS which is the snapdragon dual sim Note 10. It is the model from Taiwan I believe. Can you confirm if Samsung Pay is working on your phone? Because that's all I care about. I don't want to root my phone. Just want a dual sim snapdragon. This is my best option. But Samsung Pay is important to me.

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