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ok so i have a jawbone up and my girlfriend has a fitbit force i took and checked accuracy with the gear 2 very close within a couple steps of each other but my miles are insanely inaccurate on the gear 2 for instance today it says i have done 3,913 steps but 6.7 miles and burned 162 calories these are results directly from the gear 2 not going into s health anyone else seeing these results
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ok so i have a jawbone up and my girlfriend has a fitbit force i took and checked accuracy with the gear 2 very close within a couple steps of each other but my miles are insanely inaccurate on the gear 2 for instance today it says i have done 3,913 steps but 6.7 miles and burned 162 calories these are results directly from the gear 2 not going into s health anyone else seeing these results
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Yeah, the mileage seems way off based on the steps. Unfortunately, it's probably because on the fitbit, you enter in your average stride length. On the Gear 2 (et al), you enter in your height only and it must extrapolate an average stride off of that. I imagine someone will be doing a pedometer at some point that will allow a better reading distance-wise.
The Auto HR (Heart Rate) of the Gear S3 isn't satisfying, it only takes (measures) 1 time every hour, the Gear S2 did that every 10 minutes! What a huge step back from Samsung, I just hate it! Will send back this item to Amazon, what a shame
Bit of an extreme reason to send it back. Check your settings etc... anyway
Mine records a measurement every ten minutes and stores it in SHealth.
Lakota said:
Bit of an extreme reason to send it back. Check your settings etc... anyway
Mine records a measurement every ten minutes and stores it in SHealth.
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We don't have the possibility to change how often we want to measure! We only have the option Auto HR on or off, this is ridiculous! Mine only measures every hour :/
Mine measures every 10 mins pretty reliably. I know I've seen the setting for this somewhere but I honestly can't find it now, I'm sure someone else can tell you where it is.
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We don't have the possibility to change how often we want to measure! We only have the option Auto HR on or off, this is ridiculous! Mine only measures every hour :/
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Mine does every 10 minutes too. But it's not a heart monitoring watch. It's an added feature on a watch with a million other features. "Ridiculous" that it does not have specific adjustment details that a relatively small fraction of the customer base probably needs? I agree that's probably a bit harsh!
If THAT is the one feature that is a deal breaker for you, yeah, you chose the wrong watch. The accuracy on any watch HR monitor is questionable anyway. And you can do it manually whenever you want. How much data do you need?
Return your gear and get a fitness-specific device! Start here... http://www.wareable.com/fitness-trackers/best-heart-rate-monitor-and-watches
Sounds like you need a chest strap.
Has anyone found where I can change the intervall to 10mins? Generally once every hour is fine IMO, but there are certain scenarios where I'd like to monitor my heart rate more closely.
It's 10 mins by default. The problem is you are moving when it try's to take a measurement and fails. To demonstrate this try and take 2 manual readings - one perfectly still and the second time keep moving your fingers.
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The Auto HR (Heart Rate) of the Gear S3 isn't satisfying, it only takes (measures) 1 time every hour, the Gear S2 did that every 10 minutes! What a huge step back from Samsung, I just hate it! Will send back this item to Amazon, what a shame
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K bye. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
I know exactly how you feel. That's why when I work out I switch out my gear s3 with my gear fit2 or fitbit2 blaze. The blaze can accurately measure while in motion, the Gear fit2 lacks accurately getting a bpm while in motion.
The blaze fitbit also severely lacks instant notifications. Pretty ineffective if that's what you want it for. Stick with the fit2 or gear s3 as their on target when it comes to notifications being accurately relayed to the wearable
It seems pretty accurate when I'm at rest but I'm not sure about its readings while I'm walking or hiking. Maybe I should tighten up the band when my arms are swinging.
The latest S3 and Samsung Health updates has fixed the accuracy.
I used Polar M400 with chest sensor before S3 and when I started with S3 it seemed to be underrating, for the same 45 minutes cross trainer session, Polar counted about 400 calories and S3/Health - about 300. S3 also shown about 5 bpm less constantly.
With the latest update things seem to be fixed, S3 indications are quite close to Polar.
I'm doing the same session 2-3 times per week, so I can compare the data.
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I used Polar M400 with chest sensor before S3 and when I started with S3 it seemed to be underrating, for the same 45 minutes cross trainer session, Polar counted about 400 calories and S3/Health - about 300. S3 also shown about 5 bpm less constantly.
With the latest update things seem to be fixed, S3 indications are quite close to Polar.
I'm doing the same session 2-3 times per week, so I can compare the data.
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I had a garmin vivoactive hr before and the HR seems to be the same while running but the calorie count is really low on s3. 1000 vs 300
Those of you having issues with movement - slide the watch further up your wrist. Every HR monitor ive tried has the same issue. If it is too close to your hand, it will give crap readings. Apple Watch 2 has the same issue and I have to run with it about an inch higher than where I normally wear it.
I had the Gear S3 about a month after it came out and the heart rate accuracy was pathetic. I was coming from Fitbit Charge HR and that one had problems and still was better than the Gear. For example on a treadmill I was running and my Gear could not get above 80 bpm when I know from manually taking my bpm it was around 160 at least. I think it's from the sensor being on a completely flat surface so it's hard to stay accurate during movement.
I now have the Garmin Vivoactive HR and it is worlds better. Stays within 2-3 bpm of what a chest strap would read.
I think just about any wearable has accuracy issues here and there, but in general you can and do get a fairly good representation over time. If you're looking for dead nuts accuracy, no wearable is going to deliver. I've worn my chest monitor with my Fitbit Charge2 and Gear s3, and overall through the course of a workout, my readings are close enough to produce physical results.
I wear my Charge2 on one arm and gear on the other. The Charge is touted as a fitness tracker and my gear s3 SMARTWATCH produces results that are pretty dang close. Close enough anyway.
I find I get better hr readings lower on my wrist. YMMV.
If no one has found out yet. Maybe different in S3, but in my S2, it is located in SHealth app of gear (not phone). The far right card is settings and inside there is a menu called "Auto HR" which is selectable between Frequent, Moderate or Off.
Got a Gear S3 recently and so far I'm loving it, but I'm having some issues with the pedometer feature through S Health not being accurate. I've tested it a time or two by taking 20 or so steps and then checking it and it appears accurate, but then other times I know it is way off. This morning for instance I woke up and walked over to my bathroom which is maybe 15 steps at most and when I looked it was reporting 68 steps already on the day. Other times I'll look at it early in the morning and see it showing a few hundred steps when I've only walked downstairs to grab a cup of coffee or something.
Is there anywhere I should be entering settings or calibrating it or something? S Health has my correct stats (age, height, weight, etc.)?
I just did a test: from my office to the restroom is about 28 steps (counted). I was at 800, when I got to the restroom I was at 826 and when I got back to my office it was 857. I would say that is pretty high level of accuracy.
Are you sleeping after midnight? Did you get up during the night?
There have been a couple of firmware and app updates for the S3 and the S Health app, I would make sure that those are updated.
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I just did a test: from my office to the restroom is about 28 steps (counted). I was at 800, when I got to the restroom I was at 826 and when I got back to my office it was 857. I would say that is pretty high level of accuracy.
Are you sleeping after midnight? Did you get up during the night?
There have been a couple of firmware and app updates for the S3 and the S Health app, I would make sure that those are updated.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't typically get up at all during the night (unless I'm sleepwalking lol). I too have tested and most times it is accurate, but there are times when I know it is not. I'm guessing there must me some sort of movements I'm making with my arms or something that are triggering it. I'll start watching it a little closer just to see.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't typically get up at all during the night (unless I'm sleepwalking lol). I too have tested and most times it is accurate, but there are times when I know it is not. I'm guessing there must me some sort of movements I'm making with my arms or something that are triggering it. I'll start watching it a little closer just to see.
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Has to be something I'm doing. Last night I went to bed at 10:30, woke up at 5:00 and before I even got out of bed it showed 18 steps on today.
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Has to be something I'm doing. Last night I went to bed at 10:30, woke up at 5:00 and before I even got out of bed it showed 18 steps on today.
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Are you wearing it while sleeping?
Is the band loose?
Mine appears pretty accurate. I keep the watch "lightly snug" to my wrist. I don't like it loose enough to flop back and forth, but I don't like a death grip either.
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Are you wearing it while sleeping?
Is the band loose?
Mine appears pretty accurate. I keep the watch "lightly snug" to my wrist. I don't like it loose enough to flop back and forth, but I don't like a death grip either.
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Same here. It's tight enough it doesn't really move, but it isn't leaving marks on my arm from being too tight either. And yes, I wear it while sleeping.
Gear S3 pedometer doesn't match S7 Edge pedometer.
I have a job which requires me to run a lot. I wear my Gear S3 throughout my shift and always have my S7 Edge in my pocket.
According to my S7 Edge, I run about 15,000 steps per day, but according to my Gear S3, I run around 12,500.
Eber since I linked the two, it doesn't update with each step but rather updates every minute or so, so I can't keep track of it as easily. When I only had the S7, it was live tracking and was accurate every time I checked, so it seems the Gear S3 is missing quite a bit if my steps throughout the day.
I did a hike today with my Gear S3 and it tracked 20,038 steps (on my wrist) whereas the pedometer on my Blackberry Priv shows about 18,166 steps (in my hip pocket). But the hike was flat for about two miles and then up some rather steep switchbacks for another 2 miles.
I've had a fitbit, 2 garmin (vivoactive HR & Forerunner 235) and my S3. All seem to do a nice job counting steps while walking, but only the S3 does the job on an elliptical. I often get on my elliptical in the evening to punch up my steps to 20-25k and in so doing, so I don't gt lost in the exercise for more than an hour, I'll count my steps while riding the elliptical. The accuracy is uncanny. I don't really pay attention to my running or walking steps in a similar manner, as I'm happy with my results.
In my opinion, you have to take these fitness trackers with a grain of salt. Each has a weakness, HR is the weakest on the S3, IMO, but as long as I have other matrix to gauge my performance I am happy.
I love the look of the S3 over the other smart watches I've had over the lat 6 months and I've learned there are just some things it might not do exactly meet our expectations. It's how you feel you can adapt that will make the difference.
All my opinion, be sure you're up to date on your (grains of) salt today.
My Samsung Gear S3 pedometer show 93% wrong. 15 756 real steps are 14 795 steps on Samsung Gear S3 watch. Nearly 1000 steps less. If dayly steps is important Fitbit is better/perfect.
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My Samsung Gear S3 pedometer show 93% wrong. 15 756 real steps are 14 795 steps on Samsung Gear S3 watch. Nearly 1000 steps less. If dayly steps is important Fitbit is better/perfect.
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Did you count your 15,756 steps? Not saying the S3 is more or less accurate, but I've heard fitbits will count steps when reaching for your mail, or drinking coffee. I think it's best to use 1 step counter and the steps are all relative
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This issue drives me nuts! I already had my watch replaced one time for this issue. Now the new one seems to be just as bad. This morning I got up, (dont wear the watch at night), Put it on, walked 17 steps, and it read 192 steps! Its stupid. I like everything else about it but the step counter is worthless. I know its accurate at times, but errors like this just take away any accuracy that it might have. With my first watch, it logged over 200 steps while I was standing in one place getting dressed.
Its stupid.
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Got a Gear S3 recently and so far I'm loving it, but I'm having some issues with the pedometer feature through S Health not being accurate. I've tested it a time or two by taking 20 or so steps and then checking it and it appears accurate, but then other times I know it is way off. This morning for instance I woke up and walked over to my bathroom which is maybe 15 steps at most and when I looked it was reporting 68 steps already on the day. Other times I'll look at it early in the morning and see it showing a few hundred steps when I've only walked downstairs to grab a cup of coffee or something.
Is there anywhere I should be entering settings or calibrating it or something? S Health has my correct stats (age, height, weight, etc.)?
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I have the same concerns. What I noticed is it's much more accurate the longer you walk. Could be GPS based and it needs a better sample. Try using your phone and your watch to measure steps or distance for several hours then compare. Mines usually just a tiny bit off with a 3 mile distance. Not enough to worry about for me.
I'll add in my two cents. These are comparisons while wearing bat at the same time. S3 frontier and fitbit charge2.
I'm looking to buy this watch but one of the key factors for me is using it as a standalone for running.
I'm not too concerned with HR or having a map for the exact route I ran but it is crucial that the distance is pretty accurate and therefore my pace per km is accurate. Is the Gear 3 able to deliver on that front? Also does S Health have the feature where a voice-over will alert you at each completed km and update you with your pace for that km and overall average pace per km?
I've tested the LTE Frontier version against a Garmin Vivoactive on a 5 and 4 mile run, so far. Both runs were within .03 of a mile difference. I did have it tethered to my phone because AT&T hadn't gotten NumberSync worked out yet. I'm not sure if the watch refers to the phone during workout while tethered, but now that NumberSync is straightened out, I'll test it again this weekend.
A few things I've discovered:
- It seems to begin recording before the GPS has locked. To work around it, I paused it as soon as it started and gave it a few moments to lock on. This worked but it's little things like this that Samsung should address if it wants to be taken a little more seriously in the fitness world.
- I don't use always-on display so it takes a second or two for the distance display to catch up to the current number. It's usually no more than .05 off for that couple of seconds.
-I don't do interval notifications and I track miles instead of km, but there are options for "Guide at interval every..." .5 mile, 1 mile, 5 miles, 5 minutes, 10 minutes, 30 minutes, hour.
- The heart rate max has been way off but the average is fairly close. I kept it strapped pretty tight during runs. It's convenient but I'd prefer they allow connecting to chest straps, etc. Wrist based HR is tough to do right.
- Heart rate is not imported into Strava when S Health has been set to automatically import. You can manually export the data but I haven't tried that, yet.
- Many of the activities in the phone version of S Health are missing on the watch. Skiing is a big omission in my opinion and seems like a no-brainer with onboard barometer\altimeter.
- For a short time the display would not turn off after starting a run. It eventually did. Also, it has gotten "confused' several times with auto-brightness level but rights itself after the display has turned off and back on again.
Techradar's 50k run review on YouTube was helpful in deciding. I can't post links, yet, but search: "Samsung Gear S3 vs Apple Watch 2 vs Garmin Forerunner 735XT: Battery and GPS 50k test"
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I've tested the LTE Frontier version against a Garmin Vivoactive on a 5 and 4 mile run, so far. Both runs were within .03 of a mile difference. I did have it tethered to my phone because AT&T hadn't gotten NumberSync worked out yet. I'm not sure if the watch refers to the phone during workout while tethered, but now that NumberSync is straightened out, I'll test it again this weekend.
A few things I've discovered:
- It seems to begin recording before the GPS has locked. To work around it, I paused it as soon as it started and gave it a few moments to lock on. This worked but it's little things like this that Samsung should address if it wants to be taken a little more seriously in the fitness world.
- I don't use always-on display so it takes a second or two for the distance display to catch up to the current number. It's usually no more than .05 off for that couple of seconds.
-I don't do interval notifications and I track miles instead of km, but there are options for "Guide at interval every..." .5 mile, 1 mile, 5 miles, 5 minutes, 10 minutes, 30 minutes, hour.
- The heart rate max has been way off but the average is fairly close. I kept it strapped pretty tight during runs. It's convenient but I'd prefer they allow connecting to chest straps, etc. Wrist based HR is tough to do right.
- Heart rate is not imported into Strava when S Health has been set to automatically import. You can manually export the data but I haven't tried that, yet.
- Many of the activities in the phone version of S Health are missing on the watch. Skiing is a big omission in my opinion and seems like a no-brainer with onboard barometer\altimeter.
- For a short time the display would not turn off after starting a run. It eventually did. Also, it has gotten "confused' several times with auto-brightness level but rights itself after the display has turned off and back on again.
Techradar's 50k run review on YouTube was helpful in deciding. I can't post links, yet, but search: "Samsung Gear S3 vs Apple Watch 2 vs Garmin Forerunner 735XT: Battery and GPS 50k test"
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Thanks a lot for the response, will check out the YouTube video. If you did get round to testing the watching as a standalone this weekend, can you let me know how well it worked?
4 mile run with the Gear S3 on LTE (Not connected to a phone), Garmin VivoActive with Scosche Rhythm+ HRM, and Galaxy S7 Active
- The final average pace between all 3 devices was within 10 seconds of each other. The VivoActive was in the middle and the Gear S3 was 5 seconds more and the S7 Active was 5 seconds less.
- Throughout the run, the Gear S3 always read the pace at 1 to 2 minutes more than the Garmin. But, the final results of the Gear S3 basically matched the Garmin so I'm not sure what is going on there because it was displaying a pretty big incorrect pace.
- For the first 5 minutes of the run, the heart rate on the Gear S3 read a consistent 40 bpm less than the Garmin with the Scosche Rhythm+ hrm. After that 5 minutes, it was never more than 2 or 3 bpm different from the Garmin. Looking at the S Health app, I'm not seeing those consistently low numbers for that 5 minutes. While S Health shows an incorrect hr for only a couple of minutes, the watch was definitely showing an incorrect hr for a full 5 minutes. The final average is very close to the Garmin, though.
Gear S3 Garmin VivoActive (Scosche Rhythm+ HRM) Galaxy S7 Active (Strava)
Start Bat % 99% 100% -
End Bat % 89% 88% -
Distance 3.98 mi 4.03 mi 4.0 mi
Avg hr 147 bpm 150 bpm -
Max hr 165 bpm 165 bpm -
Avg Cadence 83 spm ??? 160 spm ???
Max Cadence 167 spm 168 spm
Hi All,
I picked up the Galaxy Watch 4 44mm BT on Tuesday, after using a Watch Active2 40mm for roughly 6 months. I made the switch because I noticed that the HR sensor on the Active2 was very inconsistent and got super frustrating when exercising.
Anyways, the Active2 used to report around 300-350kcal burned for 30min incline walks (4.5kmph, 15% incline) whereas now the Watch 4 is reporting half of that. It seems as if the Watch is only using speed data to calculate calories burned whereas the Active2 definitely factored in the HR.
Any else experience a similar issue with the treadmill mode? I am still to test the "Other Workout" option to see if the calories burned are more accurate.
Have attached pics for reference, first is Active2 and second is Watch 4.
TIA