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Since with Android you have a choice for your calls to go thru Google Voice (totally - only international or not at all) I was wondering how it works with AT&T.
If you call another AT&T cell phone it doesn't count in your minutes plan but what if you go trhu Google Voice? Is that consider like a landline to a cell phone? Or AT&T "sees" that you are using a AT&T cell and count the time has cell to cell ?
I hope I was clear in my explanation
I honestly don't know.
This has been discussed before on AT&T's forums.
The question on those forums were posed as: " If I use Google Voice and add that phone number to my "A-List" could I technically get unlimited calls to anyone?"
I'm pretty sure the answer was no. And therefore, I don't think AT&T sees the Google Voice number as anything but a forwarded call.
So if the calls are forwarded, you pay according to where it is forwarded.
Example: All of these go THROUGH Google Voice:
I call another AT&T cell from my AT&T cell. Same network = FREE M2M
I call a landline from my AT&T cell, no M2M, pay for call
This is also equal for when someone dials your Google Voice number.
It does leave questions on how international call are worked out. But I think that is on Google's end, not AT&T's
mymansionisabox said:
I honestly don't know.
This has been discussed before on AT&T's forums.
The question on those forums were posed as: " If I use Google Voice and add that phone number to my "A-List" could I technically get unlimited calls to anyone?"
I'm pretty sure the answer was no. And therefore, I don't think AT&T sees the Google Voice number as anything but a forwarded call.
So if the calls are forwarded, you pay according to where it is forwarded.
Example: All of these go THROUGH Google Voice:
I call another AT&T cell from my AT&T cell. Same network = FREE M2M
I call a landline from my AT&T cell, no M2M, pay for call
This is also equal for when someone dials your Google Voice number.
It does leave questions on how international call are worked out. But I think that is on Google's end, not AT&T's
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I am not sure that is correct, because when you place a google voice call, gv is actually calling you and then calling the other party and joining the calls. So for international you have a incoming local call and you get to pay GV low rates. I have a PBX at home that uses free incoming minutes and therefore with GV free unlimited calling.
Since we have android the callback is in the background, unless you have the update that allows you to call a GV number with a access code assigned to each contact so you don't have to wait for the callback and have a much faster connection.
just checked my usage... bad news...
making calls through GV counts against your minutes... each of my GV calls is going to a GV number and then going to the party i called (even though they're on AT&T as well)...
so, if you're calling an AT&T subscriber, just use your normal dialer... if you're calling any other carrier subscribers (or landlines) use either, depending on what number you want shown on potential caller ID's
just place the call through the GV web app then.
The way to get the free unlimited calls is to go into GV settings and have all calls from GV display on your phone as the GV number. You then give out the GV number as your main number, all incoming calls hit your phone and the number they came from is GV.
Also, when you make out outbound calls, you use GV to set up the call - it rings your cell and comes from your GV number, then connects to whoever you call.
If the GV number is one in your circle, or faves, or whatever ATT calls it, then all are free - but of course you lose caller id on incoming calls.
I have a Sprint data card that I use Skype with. A one and a half hour call through Skype only uses 25MB. Sprint is not able to "see" that I am using VoIP because Skype encrypts the data. This way I make somewhat free calls and its real cheap considering the data from my alloted 5gb. I am anxiously waiting for Skype to start working on ATT Smartphones. I did wonder how GV would work but I'd prefer Skype and use my Skypeout number.
alphadog00 said:
The way to get the free unlimited calls is to go into GV settings and have all calls from GV display on your phone as the GV number. You then give out the GV number as your main number, all incoming calls hit your phone and the number they came from is GV.
Also, when you make out outbound calls, you use GV to set up the call - it rings your cell and comes from your GV number, then connects to whoever you call.
If the GV number is one in your circle, or faves, or whatever ATT calls it, then all are free - but of course you lose caller id on incoming calls.
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Exactly, this also give you the option to press "4" during the call and record the call at GV!
kyphur said:
Exactly, this also give you the option to press "4" during the call and record the call at GV!
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Thanks for the press 4 trick.. i had no idea.
alphadog00 said:
The way to get the free unlimited calls is to go into GV settings and have all calls from GV display on your phone as the GV number. You then give out the GV number as your main number, all incoming calls hit your phone and the number they came from is GV.
Also, when you make out outbound calls, you use GV to set up the call - it rings your cell and comes from your GV number, then connects to whoever you call.
If the GV number is one in your circle, or faves, or whatever ATT calls it, then all are free - but of course you lose caller id on incoming calls.
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Yeah that is the best way to do it if you want to do a regular voice call. I didn't know ATT had the fav option!
Also what I do is use freepbx at home in a VM with a GV setup so I can make free VOIP calls to anyone in the US. I have voip phone at home and voip software on my phone. I still use GV for voicemail.
In this case i use SIPDROID.
AT&T added a fav option for higher dollar plans. I am not sure what they call it, but they did it keep up with VZW and TMo
at&t's version is called A-List. IIRC, you need to be on a $60 monthly or higher plan. You get to list 10 numbers on your account (not per line) and all in/out calls to those 10 numbers are treated as m2m...
So, I've been looking around to no avail, but I'm 100% certain this has been discussed before. When I use google voice to make outgoing calls on my android phone, regardless of rom, when I make a call to my contacts they are displayed as "unknown number", but when they make calls it shows their name and all that. Any idea why this is happening? thanks for the help.
This is my work around for t-mobile calling for non-t-mobile branded phones or t-mobile phones with customized ROMs/ iphone 5 and earlier iphone versions.
Things you need:
1. Andriod phones with customized ROMs/ non-T-Mobile branded Android phones / iphone 5 and earlier iphone versions.
2. T-Mobile service/ working T-mobile SIM card of the phone above.
3. Gmail account with activated Google Voice number.
4. Google Hangouts App
5. Google Hangouts Dialer App (only for Android, IOS has the dialer already merged to the Hangout app by default)
6. Off course WIFI connection.
7. a compurer
Okay let's start.
1. Download the Google Hangout and Google Hangout dialer on your android/ only google Hangout App to IOS.
2. Log in your google Voice/Gmail account in the Hangout App.
3. Go to Hangout setting, press on your email add, go to google voice (within the setting) and and enable/check "Incoming phone calls".
4. Now you have to activate CF NRC (Call Forwarding if Not Reachable) for your T-Mobile number. This will forward your incoming calls when you are not reachable only. We will be forwarding your incoming call to your Google Voice number. (Callforwarding will consume your minutes if you do not have unlimited voice minutes). From your phone, go to the native phone dialer (not the Hangout Dialer) and dial **62*YOURGOOGLEVOICENUMBER# then send.
-- note- to deactivate CF NRC if you change your mind go to native dialer and dial ##62# then send
5. Now go to a computer and log in to your Google Voice account, go to setting and uncheck "calls forward to" your T-mobile phone number. If you do not do this, your incoming call will go into an unending loop of voicemail forwarding and your incoming voice call will not ring to your Hangout/Google voice number.
6. Now you can receive you incoming voice call via hangout. Unfortunately, you will use your free outgoing voice calls via hangout only if you do not have a T-Mobile signal.
Tip:
When I do not have a good T-Mobile signal and have a WIFI connection, I put my phone to Airplane Mode and turn on WIFI connection after so that you battery will not die quick. You can still receive your phone call and make VOIP outgoing calls via your WIFI connection.
The moment you have T-Mobile signal, you should receive your incoming call normally since you will be "reachable" so you do not have disable the CF NRC.
Unfortunately this does not work on your text messages so I use my google voice Hangout text message which is also unlimited.
Enjoy.
Nicely done. I previously configured Google hangouts with the dialer but never thought of actually doing the Call Forwarding NRC on the T-Mo line. Clever.
Are you experiencing high CPU usage (like not able to even bring up the home screen in under 10 secs) when on a Google Hangouts dialer voice call? I've notice that on mine, and I've noticed considerable battery drain. I'm thinking this is just one of the trade offs, but wanted to see if others were experiencing this too.
Nicely done indeed! IMO T-Mobiles WIFI calling feature is a very useful feature. That is one reason I am reluctant to switch to a custom ROM. I'll have to check out your workaround and see if I like it. Another tool in the toolbox.
I've been looking for something like this, great work!!!
So basically, you are forwarding your T-mo calls to your GV account to receive your T-mo calls via wifi.
What about outgoing calls? When making calls over wifi, do you make calls via GV or T-mo? When you call someone over wifi, does it show your GV number or your T-mo number?
Your outgoing call will be by google hangout dialer app using your Google voice number (voip).
You will be using your Google voice number for outgoing on wifi. Not T-Mobile.
Nice. i will add this to my list. Thanks
vonage mobile app
Download the Vonage Mobile App, its free. Sign up then verify with the pin code texted to you. This will allow outgoing calls to show your T-Mobile (or any other carriers) outgoing number on caller ID.
For those of you who have a 3G version of the Gear S2 and don't want to fuss with manually call forwarding anymore, allow me to recommend an option many seem to have forgotten over the last couple of years: Google Voice
I've been using GV for years as the VM on my phone. Now, I have added the Gear S2 3G as another phone on my GV account. This gives two great benefits:
1. Calls automatically forward from phone-to-watch OR watch-to-phone if I don't answer on the originally called device, eliminating the need to enable and disable call forwarding phone-to-watch manually and giving a two-way solution if I leave the watch at home for a change.
2. Gives one unified voicemail box for both my phone and watch numbers. While only a few important people have my watch number for emergency purposes, I don't want people to have to remember multiple numbers to call or worry they are leaving a VM in the "box I rarely check."
To forward the watch's calls, just follow Google Voice's instructions with the manual call forwarding dial codes for your carrier (T-Mobile USA is **004*1<10digitGVnumber>#, for example) and dial them on your watch AFTER you set the number up in your GV account. And, of course, this is only going to work for those who live in a country GV services (US & Canada, I believe). If you are outside the US & Canada, I'm sorry that I have no similar alternative to offer you.
Hello, I have the Gear S2 and I thought my Nexus 6 Had the HD voice and it wont connect via AT&T's NumberSync without giving me the error
"We are sorry. We cannot set up NumberSync because your device does not have HD Voice or the person who can make account changes has blocked NumberSync.If NumberSync is blocked, ask the account holder to log in to myAT&T to unblock it."
I have been thinking of diferent ways to have it work like the NumberSync and it sounds like your way does. I have a phone number associated with the watch on AT&T now what do I do next? I did find THIS YouTube video which uses the Samsung Gear app which worked and was easy but im curious whats the difference?
Thanks,
So before I got my S3 today, everytime someone calls and I ignore it , it goes straight to the google voice voicemail and not T-mobile's voicemail service. Now that I connected my S3 and I have auto call forwarding, when I don't answer the call on both my phone and then on my S3, it goes to T-mobile voicemail. My ideal scenario would be to go from Phone --> S3 --> Google Voice. I've tried to play around with the call forwarding numbers but can't seem to find the right combo. I've tried to change the voicemail number on the S3 but it's grayed out so I can't. Anybody know how to get this to work?
Add the gear number to google voice and then click the activate voicemail link. It will give you the dialing instructions to set up the forward to VM.
awilson181 said:
Add the gear number to google voice and then click the activate voicemail link. It will give you the dialing instructions to set up the forward to VM.
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I've already done this. I can get google voice to answer if I'm just calling my phone's number or if I'm calling my S3 number. The problem happens when I connect these two together so that I can have my calls that come in from my phone to also show up on my S3. In order to do that, I have to turn on Auto Call forwarding in the Gear S3 app on the phone which in turn also turns it on on the S3. That's when everything messes up. That's when I can't get it to go to Google Voice anymore.
Samsung gear s3 is a tizen os that is created by Samsung its not Android. Google provide support for android, ios not tizen may be in the future we can get google voice officially but its hard to get because Samsung have s voice.
m3alex said:
I've already done this. I can get google voice to answer if I'm just calling my phone's number or if I'm calling my S3 number. The problem happens when I connect these two together so that I can have my calls that come in from my phone to also show up on my S3. In order to do that, I have to turn on Auto Call forwarding in the Gear S3 app on the phone which in turn also turns it on on the S3. That's when everything messes up. That's when I can't get it to go to Google Voice anymore.
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So let me make sure I understand. Calls to you GV# ring to your cellphone and S3 simultaneously via call forwarding. But you also give out your cellphone #, and you want calls to that # to ring to the S3 also. But doing that bypasses the GV system, so it goes to carrier voicemail. This same problem would exist even if the secondary device were another smartphone.
I don't know how what you're trying to do can be accomplished except perhaps through NumberSync, which I'm not familiar with. As you probably know, this problem is nonexistent if you go "all in" with GV and don't give out any other number.
afblangley said:
So let me make sure I understand. Calls to you GV# ring to your cellphone and S3 simultaneously via call forwarding. But you also give out your cellphone #, and you want calls to that # to ring to the S3 also. But doing that bypasses the GV system, so it goes to carrier voicemail. This same problem would exist even if the secondary device were another smartphone.
I don't know how what you're trying to do can be accomplished except perhaps through NumberSync, which I'm not familiar with. As you probably know, this problem is nonexistent if you go "all in" with GV and don't give out any other number.
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I am in the same boat, I just want the my phone to forward calls to the watch when i am in remote connection (which it already does) but if i dont answer I want my the voicemail left on GV and not my watches number. I think that part can be accomplished the problem is when the watch reconnects to the phone and call forward is turned off on the phone it sets the defualt call forward back to tmobile voicemail and not my GV number. How can we stop this from happening?
If you are using GV there is no need to use call forwarding on the phone/carrier. From a GV perspective, all devices are independent. Incoming calls to your GV number are forwarded to your watch number and your cellphone number (as specified on the GV settings website). Both devices will ring simultaneous, and if you don't answer on either device, it goes to GV voicemail (as specified by the **004*phone number# code).
GV functions the same regardless of how the watch is connected to a smartphone. Remote connection vs standalone effects the pass thru of notifications, and has no impact on GV.
If you have your phone and gear activated on Google Voice, there is an option in GV that will do just what I think you're wanting.
After activating both devices on Google Voice go into Google Voice settings>Edit (your phone)>Show advanced settings>then under Forwarding Options click "Ring my other phones before going to voicemail" and save.
Now go to Edit (Gear S3)>Show advanced settings>then under Forwarding Options click "Go straight to voicemail" and save.
What this does for me is: when my Gear S3 is bluetooth disconnected from my phone, any unanswered call that comes to my phone will be forwarded to my Gear S3. If the call makes it to my Gear S3, and I don't answer the call it will go to my Google Voice voicemail.
If this is what you're wanting then I hope this helps... cheers
Oatswesow said:
If you have your phone and gear activated on Google Voice, there is an option in GV that will do just what I think you're wanting.
After activating both devices on Google Voice go into Google Voice settings>Edit (your phone)>Show advanced settings>then under Forwarding Options click "Ring my other phones before going to voicemail" and save.
Now go to Edit (Gear S3)>Show advanced settings>then under Forwarding Options click "Go straight to voicemail" and save.
What this does for me is: when my Gear S3 is bluetooth disconnected from my phone, any call that comes to my phone will be forwarded to my Gear S3. If the call makes it to my Gear S3, and I don't answer the call it will go to my Google Voice voicemail.
If this is what you're wanting then I hope this helps... cheers
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I am having the same problem as everyone else. Before I do this, does it only work if someone calls your GV #? I don't give out that number to anyone, I just use it for the voicemail feature because it texts and emails it to me.
So what I am looking for is when someone calls my cell phone, it rings on both (even if connected by bluetooth) . If it is a number I don't know I don't answer and if they leave a message I want it to go to my GV voicemail, not my S3 voicemail.
I should also mention I did the **004* option and when I looked at the voicemail number, it was still the old one. I did test this and it did still go to the S3 voicemail.
My husband got this for me for Christmas and I am not as happy with it as I was with my S2 Neo.
Yes, all unanswered calls that come to my cell# (not my GV#) will be forwarded to my GS3. If I don't take the call on my GS3, then the call will go straight to my GV voicemail.
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Yes, all unanswered calls that come to my cell# (not my GV#) will be forwarded to my GS3. If I don't take the call on my GS3, then the call will go straight to my GV voicemail.
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One last question, do I need to this is for both numbers or just for the S3?
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dsireme said:
One last question, do I need to this is for both numbers or just for the S3?
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Never mind, reread what you wrote. Going to try it now.
dsireme said:
One last question, do I need to this is for both numbers or just for the S3?
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Never mind, reread what you wrote. Going to try it now.
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Good Luck... It should work for you too...
Didn't work for me.
dsireme said:
I am having the same problem as everyone else. Before I do this, does it only work if someone calls your GV #? I don't give out that number to anyone, I just use it for the voicemail feature because it texts and emails it to me.
So what I am looking for is when someone calls my cell phone, it rings on both (even if connected by bluetooth) . If it is a number I don't know I don't answer and if they leave a message I want it to go to my GV voicemail, not my S3 voicemail.
I should also mention I did the **004* option and when I looked at the voicemail number, it was still the old one. I did test this and it did still go to the S3 voicemail.
My husband got this for me for Christmas and I am not as happy with it as I was with my S2 Neo.
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Oatswesow said:
If you have your phone and gear activated on Google Voice, there is an option in GV that will do just what I think you're wanting.
After activating both devices on Google Voice go into Google Voice settings>Edit (your phone)>Show advanced settings>then under Forwarding Options click "Ring my other phones before going to voicemail" and save.
Now go to Edit (Gear S3)>Show advanced settings>then under Forwarding Options click "Go straight to voicemail" and save.
What this does for me is: when my Gear S3 is bluetooth disconnected from my phone, any unanswered call that comes to my phone will be forwarded to my Gear S3. If the call makes it to my Gear S3, and I don't answer the call it will go to my Google Voice voicemail.
If this is what you're wanting then I hope this helps... cheers
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I hate to say that this did not work for me. But we did find something that did. On my phone, we put the GV # in the call forwarding busy, unanswered and unreachable. That seem to do it.
Note: I do have my have my forwarding on for my S3. Maybe that's why the GV option didn't work for me.
Either way, thank you for helping. :good:
If you want both devices to ring simultaneously, whether bluetooth connected or both in stand alone modes, then you have to use your GM # as your primary number. I didn't do this because that means I would have to change all of my primary #'s for everyone who has my phone number. Both devices have to have "forward unanswered calls" set to forward to Google Voice.
I don't know of a way to have both devices ring simultaneously without using you GV # as your primary number.
I'm sorry I could't help
Oatswesow said:
If you have your phone and gear activated on Google Voice, there is an option in GV that will do just what I think you're wanting.
After activating both devices on Google Voice go into Google Voice settings>Edit (your phone)>Show advanced settings>then under Forwarding Options click "Ring my other phones before going to voicemail" and save.
Now go to Edit (Gear S3)>Show advanced settings>then under Forwarding Options click "Go straight to voicemail" and save.
What this does for me is: when my Gear S3 is bluetooth disconnected from my phone, any unanswered call that comes to my phone will be forwarded to my Gear S3. If the call makes it to my Gear S3, and I don't answer the call it will go to my Google Voice voicemail.
If this is what you're wanting then I hope this helps... cheers
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This works perfectly! Now i don't have to deal with multiple voicemail's to check and my phone isn't constantly resetting the GV settings when the damn auto call forwad feature is turned off and on
Oatswesow said:
If you have your phone and gear activated on Google Voice, there is an option in GV that will do just what I think you're wanting.
After activating both devices on Google Voice go into Google Voice settings>Edit (your phone)>Show advanced settings>then under Forwarding Options click "Ring my other phones before going to voicemail" and save.
Now go to Edit (Gear S3)>Show advanced settings>then under Forwarding Options click "Go straight to voicemail" and save.
What this does for me is: when my Gear S3 is bluetooth disconnected from my phone, any unanswered call that comes to my phone will be forwarded to my Gear S3. If the call makes it to my Gear S3, and I don't answer the call it will go to my Google Voice voicemail.
If this is what you're wanting then I hope this helps... cheers
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To go off of this.. Make sure you go into the gear app on your phone and turn off auto call forwarding inside the gear app. Now this works for me connected watch to phone and when I'm away from my phone.
I wanted to do this because the call forwarding sucked as I would always get messages saying calls are not being forwarded via the stock gear settings.