T-mobile Wifi Calling Work around.. - General Topics

This is my work around for t-mobile calling for non-t-mobile branded phones or t-mobile phones with customized ROMs/ iphone 5 and earlier iphone versions.
Things you need:
1. Andriod phones with customized ROMs/ non-T-Mobile branded Android phones / iphone 5 and earlier iphone versions.
2. T-Mobile service/ working T-mobile SIM card of the phone above.
3. Gmail account with activated Google Voice number.
4. Google Hangouts App
5. Google Hangouts Dialer App (only for Android, IOS has the dialer already merged to the Hangout app by default)
6. Off course WIFI connection.
7. a compurer
Okay let's start.
1. Download the Google Hangout and Google Hangout dialer on your android/ only google Hangout App to IOS.
2. Log in your google Voice/Gmail account in the Hangout App.
3. Go to Hangout setting, press on your email add, go to google voice (within the setting) and and enable/check "Incoming phone calls".
4. Now you have to activate CF NRC (Call Forwarding if Not Reachable) for your T-Mobile number. This will forward your incoming calls when you are not reachable only. We will be forwarding your incoming call to your Google Voice number. (Callforwarding will consume your minutes if you do not have unlimited voice minutes). From your phone, go to the native phone dialer (not the Hangout Dialer) and dial **62*YOURGOOGLEVOICENUMBER# then send.
-- note- to deactivate CF NRC if you change your mind go to native dialer and dial ##62# then send
5. Now go to a computer and log in to your Google Voice account, go to setting and uncheck "calls forward to" your T-mobile phone number. If you do not do this, your incoming call will go into an unending loop of voicemail forwarding and your incoming voice call will not ring to your Hangout/Google voice number.
6. Now you can receive you incoming voice call via hangout. Unfortunately, you will use your free outgoing voice calls via hangout only if you do not have a T-Mobile signal.
Tip:
When I do not have a good T-Mobile signal and have a WIFI connection, I put my phone to Airplane Mode and turn on WIFI connection after so that you battery will not die quick. You can still receive your phone call and make VOIP outgoing calls via your WIFI connection.
The moment you have T-Mobile signal, you should receive your incoming call normally since you will be "reachable" so you do not have disable the CF NRC.
Unfortunately this does not work on your text messages so I use my google voice Hangout text message which is also unlimited.
Enjoy.

Nicely done. I previously configured Google hangouts with the dialer but never thought of actually doing the Call Forwarding NRC on the T-Mo line. Clever.
Are you experiencing high CPU usage (like not able to even bring up the home screen in under 10 secs) when on a Google Hangouts dialer voice call? I've notice that on mine, and I've noticed considerable battery drain. I'm thinking this is just one of the trade offs, but wanted to see if others were experiencing this too.

Nicely done indeed! IMO T-Mobiles WIFI calling feature is a very useful feature. That is one reason I am reluctant to switch to a custom ROM. I'll have to check out your workaround and see if I like it. Another tool in the toolbox.

I've been looking for something like this, great work!!!

So basically, you are forwarding your T-mo calls to your GV account to receive your T-mo calls via wifi.
What about outgoing calls? When making calls over wifi, do you make calls via GV or T-mo? When you call someone over wifi, does it show your GV number or your T-mo number?

Your outgoing call will be by google hangout dialer app using your Google voice number (voip).

You will be using your Google voice number for outgoing on wifi. Not T-Mobile.

Nice. i will add this to my list. Thanks

vonage mobile app
Download the Vonage Mobile App, its free. Sign up then verify with the pin code texted to you. This will allow outgoing calls to show your T-Mobile (or any other carriers) outgoing number on caller ID.

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Google voice free calls?

Hey gang,
Does anyone know if google voice works over 3g? Or does it only work over wifi...I am using this app that gets google voice to call me so I don't use my minutes...however I think its still using my time when I do it over 3g?
THANKS!
rayman121985 said:
Hey gang,
Does anyone know if google voice works over 3g? Or does it only work over wifi...I am using this app that gets google voice to call me so I don't use my minutes...however I think its still using my time when I do it over 3g?
THANKS!
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It uses your minutes regardless. GV is not VoIP.
You could use Fring/Sipdroid/etc. with a Gizmo5 account if you have one (unlikely) or a VoIP service that offers a free phone number.
rayman121985 said:
Hey gang,
Does anyone know if google voice works over 3g? Or does it only work over wifi...I am using this app that gets google voice to call me so I don't use my minutes...however I think its still using my time when I do it over 3g?
THANKS!
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Google Voice is VoIP. Just go to settings and pick the setting that will let you choose whether to use Google Voice or the phone. Google Voice is great when you are using a phone without a sim-card and just wi-fi but it works over edge and 3G also.
Silverskull said:
It uses your minutes regardless. GV is not VoIP.
You could use Fring/Sipdroid/etc. with a Gizmo5 account if you have one (unlikely) or a VoIP service that offers a free phone number.
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MUCH BETTER. No wrong info please.
UberMario said:
MUCH BETTER. No wrong info please.
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Actually Silverskull's answer was perfect, your info is wrong
gVoice is not VOIP and uses your carrier minutes. The call is initiated using a data connection.
If you need instructions on how to use free VOIP, see http://lifehacker.com/5349506/make-free-voip-calls-from-google-voice
There are rumors that google will enable pure VOIP this year....lets see.
UberMario said:
Google Voice is VoIP. Just go to settings and pick the setting that will let you choose whether to use Google Voice or the phone. Google Voice is great when you are using a phone without a sim-card and just wi-fi but it works over edge and 3G also.
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It uses your outgoing minutes. Or if you use a thirdparty app, incoming minutes.
Before correcting, please do research.
http://voip.about.com/od/unifiedcommunications/f/HowGoogleVoiceWorks.htm
So if it uses your minutes what the benefits of google voice having it call you back to dial a number? Can you explain please?
1. Free calls across north america (US, Canada)
2. Single incoming number for all your house, mobile and any other numbers.
3. Call screening
4. Seemless call transfer between all your numbers without disconnection.
5. Visual voicemail and voicemail to text.
6. Free international SMS.
7. Invite only cool bragging rights.
GV
I've been using GV for over 4 months and since i've used it I totaled maybe 100 minutes from my carrier. I'm not a heavy caller but at east 20 minutes a day. Why don't you give it a try then do a minute check balance daily?
Silverskull said:
It uses your minutes regardless. GV is not VoIP.
You could use Fring/Sipdroid/etc. with a Gizmo5 account if you have one (unlikely) or a VoIP service that offers a free phone number.
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This method is used perfectly when you're overseas and want to call the US/Canada for free. You have Google Voice call your Gizmo5 number to connect your call and use the Gizmo5 app to speak via computer. And Yes I have a gizmo5 account and Yes it is up for auction.... =)
As one who uses GV with my Droid, I can assure you that it does not provide VOIP calling.
What is cool is that the GV app for Android provides free Visual Voicemail-type features and free SMS functionality, all over your data connection with no additional fees.
Now, to get free calling with GV and your data connection, do the following:
1) Sign up for a SipGate One account ( Google for sipgate ). This is a VOIP account that has free incoming calls and a free phone number.
2) Sign up for a SIPSorcery account ( Google for sipsorcery ). Requires silverlight to operate the site.
3) Add your SipGate account to SIPSorcery.
4) Get one of the dial plans from a Google Code project ( Google for google-voice-sipsorcery-dialplans ) . Instructions are also available there to show you how to add it to your SIPSorcery account.
5) Set up the SIP software of your choice (could be an ATA with a real phone, SIP software for your PC, or SIPDroid for Android phones), and use your SIPSorcery credentials to connect to the SIPSorcery service. Do not use your SIPGate credentials here.
6) Add your SIPGate phone number to your Google Voice account and go through the authorization process (it will call your SIPGate number).
7) Decide whether or not you want to have all incoming GV calls ring your SIP number or not. Configure GV to that effect.
Notes -- When you place an outgoing call with SIPDroid or other SIP software, it connects to SIPSorcery, which will then initiate a GV callback to your SIPGate number (so that you get the calls for free as incoming calls), and bridges the calls together. This is mostly seamless, however it does create as much as a 10 or 15 second delay before the call is placed. Additionally, on occasion it will fail to bridge the connection (the recipient's phone will ring, but you won't be connected to them).
Note 2 - This will appear as a call from your GV phone number, not your cell phone number.
Note 3 - I have found that there is a significant "dual ringing" problem when you receive a call on SIPDroid and over your cell carrier's voice plan at the same time. As such, and since some areas where I spend a lot of time have spotty data coverage, I do not usually have SIPDroid connected on my phone. It does work very well on my PC, however, and I plan to set up an ATA with a phone at home too.
One final thought -- We will all cheer when Google enables VOIP services for us, but they won't be free (they'll just be cheap, like $0.02/minute or something).
Thank you for your thoughts my friend!
Thank you for this information it has been very informative =)

Google Voice and AT&T (little off topic)

Hi,
Since with Android you have a choice for your calls to go thru Google Voice (totally - only international or not at all) I was wondering how it works with AT&T.
If you call another AT&T cell phone it doesn't count in your minutes plan but what if you go trhu Google Voice? Is that consider like a landline to a cell phone? Or AT&T "sees" that you are using a AT&T cell and count the time has cell to cell ?
I hope I was clear in my explanation
I honestly don't know.
This has been discussed before on AT&T's forums.
The question on those forums were posed as: " If I use Google Voice and add that phone number to my "A-List" could I technically get unlimited calls to anyone?"
I'm pretty sure the answer was no. And therefore, I don't think AT&T sees the Google Voice number as anything but a forwarded call.
So if the calls are forwarded, you pay according to where it is forwarded.
Example: All of these go THROUGH Google Voice:
I call another AT&T cell from my AT&T cell. Same network = FREE M2M
I call a landline from my AT&T cell, no M2M, pay for call
This is also equal for when someone dials your Google Voice number.
It does leave questions on how international call are worked out. But I think that is on Google's end, not AT&T's
mymansionisabox said:
I honestly don't know.
This has been discussed before on AT&T's forums.
The question on those forums were posed as: " If I use Google Voice and add that phone number to my "A-List" could I technically get unlimited calls to anyone?"
I'm pretty sure the answer was no. And therefore, I don't think AT&T sees the Google Voice number as anything but a forwarded call.
So if the calls are forwarded, you pay according to where it is forwarded.
Example: All of these go THROUGH Google Voice:
I call another AT&T cell from my AT&T cell. Same network = FREE M2M
I call a landline from my AT&T cell, no M2M, pay for call
This is also equal for when someone dials your Google Voice number.
It does leave questions on how international call are worked out. But I think that is on Google's end, not AT&T's
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I am not sure that is correct, because when you place a google voice call, gv is actually calling you and then calling the other party and joining the calls. So for international you have a incoming local call and you get to pay GV low rates. I have a PBX at home that uses free incoming minutes and therefore with GV free unlimited calling.
Since we have android the callback is in the background, unless you have the update that allows you to call a GV number with a access code assigned to each contact so you don't have to wait for the callback and have a much faster connection.
just checked my usage... bad news...
making calls through GV counts against your minutes... each of my GV calls is going to a GV number and then going to the party i called (even though they're on AT&T as well)...
so, if you're calling an AT&T subscriber, just use your normal dialer... if you're calling any other carrier subscribers (or landlines) use either, depending on what number you want shown on potential caller ID's
just place the call through the GV web app then.
The way to get the free unlimited calls is to go into GV settings and have all calls from GV display on your phone as the GV number. You then give out the GV number as your main number, all incoming calls hit your phone and the number they came from is GV.
Also, when you make out outbound calls, you use GV to set up the call - it rings your cell and comes from your GV number, then connects to whoever you call.
If the GV number is one in your circle, or faves, or whatever ATT calls it, then all are free - but of course you lose caller id on incoming calls.
I have a Sprint data card that I use Skype with. A one and a half hour call through Skype only uses 25MB. Sprint is not able to "see" that I am using VoIP because Skype encrypts the data. This way I make somewhat free calls and its real cheap considering the data from my alloted 5gb. I am anxiously waiting for Skype to start working on ATT Smartphones. I did wonder how GV would work but I'd prefer Skype and use my Skypeout number.
alphadog00 said:
The way to get the free unlimited calls is to go into GV settings and have all calls from GV display on your phone as the GV number. You then give out the GV number as your main number, all incoming calls hit your phone and the number they came from is GV.
Also, when you make out outbound calls, you use GV to set up the call - it rings your cell and comes from your GV number, then connects to whoever you call.
If the GV number is one in your circle, or faves, or whatever ATT calls it, then all are free - but of course you lose caller id on incoming calls.
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Exactly, this also give you the option to press "4" during the call and record the call at GV!
kyphur said:
Exactly, this also give you the option to press "4" during the call and record the call at GV!
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Thanks for the press 4 trick.. i had no idea.
alphadog00 said:
The way to get the free unlimited calls is to go into GV settings and have all calls from GV display on your phone as the GV number. You then give out the GV number as your main number, all incoming calls hit your phone and the number they came from is GV.
Also, when you make out outbound calls, you use GV to set up the call - it rings your cell and comes from your GV number, then connects to whoever you call.
If the GV number is one in your circle, or faves, or whatever ATT calls it, then all are free - but of course you lose caller id on incoming calls.
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Yeah that is the best way to do it if you want to do a regular voice call. I didn't know ATT had the fav option!
Also what I do is use freepbx at home in a VM with a GV setup so I can make free VOIP calls to anyone in the US. I have voip phone at home and voip software on my phone. I still use GV for voicemail.
In this case i use SIPDROID.
AT&T added a fav option for higher dollar plans. I am not sure what they call it, but they did it keep up with VZW and TMo
at&t's version is called A-List. IIRC, you need to be on a $60 monthly or higher plan. You get to list 10 numbers on your account (not per line) and all in/out calls to those 10 numbers are treated as m2m...

Can i use my home phone to forward calls by google voice on my phone?

is this possible? i have vonage. its voip. i was wondering if i can use that and get calls on my nexus s . i already use gv for texting if i can pull this off i can cancel the voice plan from tmobile and just have the internet plan. is this possible?
yes no may b?
I'm not an expert with GV but I think you just need to give your Google phone number to people and have them call that. Then set it up to ring you vonage number or cell. For people to call your vonage number and have it ring your cell then you'd have to set up some sort of forwarding for that.
You need a real VOIP SIP account, Vonage is not that.
-Nexus S

Google voice...

Ahhhhhh! Someone please help me. My Google voice isn't acting right. I've used Google voice a lot for my voicemail only. That's what I always did, I never ran into issues. Now all my text messages, incoming calls are coming through Google voice. I don't understand. I just want to use it for my voice mail. Like usual. I even went on the Google voice settings web page. I can't figure out how to disable my text messages from coming through gvoice. Can anyone help me? Thanks
I could only see this happening if people were calling and texting your Google Voice number (you can find this in GV settings on your phone) instead of your actual phone number (the one given to you by your carrier). Google voice, I believe, is unable to intercept text messages not routed to your GV number.
tcheck8 said:
I could only see this happening if people were calling and texting your Google Voice number (you can find this in GV settings on your phone) instead of your actual phone number (the one given to you by your carrier). Google voice, I believe, is unable to intercept text messages not routed to your GV number.
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they were calling and texting my google voice number. Aren't you supposed to set your google voice number to your actual phone number?

[Q] Call out with Google Voice

I looked around but couldn't find a thread on this problem.
This is my first Android phone (AT&T version), previously I had a 3GS, and I'm having trouble getting Google Voice sorted. I set up voicemail forwarding as the two thread here suggest, but I can't seem to get calling out working right. If I go into the GV app I can call people who've called me/are starred/left messages etc and it will call with my GV number, but I can't call anyone else with that number. I think I have the phone set to use GV for all calls, but it still uses my cell number if I use the phone dialer. Is there a way to/can I set it up so calls I make come from the GV number?
With the 3GS I just used the GV app for everything and that worked since my calls came from the right number, but as far as I can tell I need to use the phone app to call out with this?
Thanks.
Should be able to change this in the settings:
Settings -> Making Calls
I have mine set up to ask me every time I make a call.
Sounds like yours might be 'Do not use Google Voice to make any calls'
Try groove IP app from market.
Sent from my HTC One X on Leedroid's ROM v5.0.0.
I feel like the least technologically savvy person in the world, but I re-installed the app, restarted, and now it seems to be working.
It had been set to use google voice for all calls, but for whatever reason calls were not coming through that way.
To follow that up. Are texts managed the same way, or do I need to open the GV app to send them?
Use the GV app for texts via GV. Or you can use any other SMS app with the GV-provided phone numbers that it assigns to people that call/text you. As an example, via GV you would normally see a text from Person. If you looked in Messages or Go SMS, it would be Person - +1XXX-XXX-XXX - text. If you use that number to text Person, they will receive it as if it came from your GV #, not your cell #.
Thanks, I'm all sorted out.

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