Hello everyone as I am sure most are aware by now but lovely Sony broke remote play for near everyone recently. Requires latest version now and no root allowed.
That being said, is there anyone who is currently able to remote play on their K1 ?
I see tons of stuff on people getting it to work with Magisk root and Magisk Hide, and or super su and xposed with root cloak. I was unsuccessful via the SuperSU and root cloak method on my GPD XD, so that's why I'm curious if anyone was successful on the shield.
I managed to get Magisk and Magisk Hide then I go to install Remote Play apk and it states my device is not supported .. Must be because I'm on Nougat.. So xposed root cloak isn't an option either right now.
I just want to here any success stories before going through down grade process. I have TWRP. But no sense in wasting the time if it won't even work.
If you are successful can you please list method and version you are on.
Thanks!
Was wanting to do the same thing. I guess you need a sony framework with xposed also? Did you try that?
Wait, if you are on nougat, then xposed doesn't work, right? Was thinking I'd have to stay on MM, root, xposed, hide root, sony framework, then remote play apk. Can't say if it works or not.
hdad2 said:
Was wanting to do the same thing. I guess you need a sony framework with xposed also? Did you try that?
Wait, if you are on nougat, then xposed doesn't work, right? Was thinking I'd have to stay on MM, root, xposed, hide root, sony framework, then remote play apk. Can't say if it works or not.
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Yep exactly what I would do. Same thing. I did see in the Remote Play port apk thread that used to work up until recently somone said they got it working on the shield but they didnt really say anymore than that to help confirm.
Another thing i seen is sony apps that check root (remote play, vue) also check for the build.prop file for ' build-release-tag: test-keys ' (paraphrasing youll see it) so if on something custom it will most likely be test-keys rather than release-keys. Apparently changing that made it work for a lot of users who reported as well. So that potentially is another step necessary.
So yeah id like to Downgrade to stock MM and most likely magisk hide it or go the supersu, xposed, rootcloak method.
It would just be nice to hear that someone was already successful and how.
So lame of sony to implement a root check.. Seriously.. Let us pay for it or something if you must.. just give us the option dang.. Though with the demand currently looking at the net a third party option may appear sooner or later. Id hope.
The real killer for me is that I just bought the shield and one of the purposes I had in mind was remote play. In shopping for a tablet I purposely looked to sony's options to get one that wouldn't have this trouble. Ridiculous prices for those if you can find them at all. They are as old as the shield, worse reviews and harder to get. I could buy 3 shield k1's for the price of a z4 tablet on amazon. If you are going to lock your remote play feature behind your hardware, fine, but make a hardware option that people want and can actually find then!
hdad2 said:
The real killer for me is that I just bought the shield and one of the purposes I had in mind was remote play. In shopping for a tablet I purposely looked to sony's options to get one that wouldn't have this trouble. Ridiculous prices for those if you can find them at all. They are as old as the shield, worse reviews and harder to get. I could buy 3 shield k1's for the price of a z4 tablet on amazon. If you are going to lock your remote play feature behind your hardware, fine, but make a hardware option that people want and can actually find then!
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Agreed. Tho with this update they released the app so it supported near all devices now as opposed to only being able to install from playstore on sony devices. So the root check makes no sense to me at all. Maybe they dont want bluetooth ds4 on any devices or something. Idk.. dont get it.
Lol spoke too soon they dropped the compatability and blocked installation on my devices that previously could install it from play store.
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Agreed. Tho with this update they released the app so it supported near all devices now as opposed to only being able to install from playstore on sony devices. So the root check makes no sense to me at all. Maybe they dont want bluetooth ds4 on any devices or something. Idk.. dont get it.
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Not sure I follow what you are saying here. I'm pretty sure the remote play only works on Sony devices, not all unrooted devices. Or an I missing something? I haven't rooted my shield yet, and if that's all it takes then I won't root. Are you referring to the Playstation app that lets you do 2nd screen stuff? That's the only thing I see in the play store at all.
I'm willing to root and try it out given a couple things maybe someone can answer.
Are there any negative effects to the nvidia apps (like geforce now) to flashing the Sony framework stuff?
Can you apply the newer updates (nougat or even 1.5 MM) after rooting without loosing data?
Ok, I'm down to try something. CJD14, I saw your post in the remote play apk thread. Good stuff.
From your post:
Seems the preferred method.
Root with Magisk
Enable Magisk Hide
Install Magisk Sony Framework Module
Install PS4 Remote Play 2 Apk
Dont open it.
Add Remote Play to the Hidden list for Magisk Hide.
Reboot
Confirm root status in Magisk Manager.
Open Remote Play now and should no longer detect root.
SuperSu method etc.
Be rooted
Flash Xposed Framework
Install Xposed Installer
Download RootCloak Xposed Module
Install PS4 Remote Play 2 apk
Dont open it.
Open RootCloak
Add com.playstation.remoteplay to the list of apps
Enable RootCloak in Xposed Installer > Module tab.
reboot to complete.
Should no longer detect root.
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For that preferred method, I don't see any evidence of anyone using MagiskSU on shield. Do we know that root method will work?
And I'm not familiar with that method, is it only one flash that installs Magisk and SU?
(I've been sitting out of the ROM flashing game for a few years and this stuff has passed me by a bit)
Edit:
Wait a minute...
If the Magisk method doesn't require xposed, can't you use it on Nougat?
hdad2 said:
Ok, I'm down to try something. CJD14, I saw your post in the remote play apk thread. Good stuff.
From your post:
For that preferred method, I don't see any evidence of anyone using MagiskSU on shield. Do we know that root method will work?
And I'm not familiar with that method, is it only one flash that installs Magisk and SU?
(I've been sitting out of the ROM flashing game for a few years and this stuff has passed me by a bit)
Edit:
Wait a minute...
If the Magisk method doesn't require xposed, can't you use it on Nougat?
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As for the Magisk on Shield. Im sure it should work. It seems to work on many devices and since the Shield itself supports Root other ways then i highly doubt there will be any issues with getting Magisk installed.
And Magisk not requiring Xposed your right. It Very well could work on Nougat.
My sheild is rooted and on Nougat. Not sure why didnt think of that but i will give that a try then. Ill swap from SuperSU to magisk tonight or tomorrow and see how it goes. Else ill try downgrading tomorrow.
Sony framework wont effect any Nvidia stuff. Its a whole seperate thing. Just a few libraries and a dualshock app. It is strictly for support of Remote Play.
CJD14 said:
As for the Magisk on Shield. Im sure it should work. It seems to work on many devices and since the Shield itself supports Root other ways then i highly doubt there will be any issues with getting Magisk installed.
And Magisk not requiring Xposed your right. It Very well could work on Nougat.
My sheild is rooted and on Nougat. Not sure why didnt think of that but i will give that a try then. Ill swap from SuperSU to magisk tonight or tomorrow and see how it goes. Else ill try downgrading tomorrow.
Sony framework wont effect any Nvidia stuff. Its a whole seperate thing. Just a few libraries and a dualshock app. It is strictly for support of Remote Play.
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Do I understand from twisted's original thread that even getting it working is imperfect now? Sounds like DS4 doesn't work? And your stuck with buttons the screen? Dammit Sony!
I'd kinda like Nougat myself (quite a few Nvidia fixes from the version mine is on), so I'm hoping you can report that works for you.
I just posted on the other thread... But now i found you....... You maybe have a link for me where i can find a Sony framework for xposed? I tried by Google but i only find how to install xposed on a Sony device...
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hdad2 said:
Ok, I'm down to try something. CJD14, I saw your post in the remote play apk thread. Good stuff.
From your post:
For that preferred method, I don't see any evidence of anyone using MagiskSU on shield. Do we know that root method will work?
And I'm not familiar with that method, is it only one flash that installs Magisk and SU?
(I've been sitting out of the ROM flashing game for a few years and this stuff has passed me by a bit)
Edit:
Wait a minute...
If the Magisk method doesn't require xposed, can't you use it on Nougat?
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seppimontana said:
I just posted on the other thread... But now i found you....... You maybe have a link for me where i can find a Sony framework for xposed? I tried by Google but i only find how to install xposed on a Sony device...
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Here is the link sir. https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4087913&d=1490438230
hdad2 said:
Do I understand from twisted's original thread that even getting it working is imperfect now? Sounds like DS4 doesn't work? And your stuck with buttons the screen? Dammit Sony!
I'd kinda like Nougat myself (quite a few Nvidia fixes from the version mine is on), so I'm hoping you can report that works for you.
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I have great news to report.
Good catch on the Magisk because it worked.
I got it working this way.
I have TWRP installed already.
I was rooted with SuperSU already on Nougat.
I installed Magisk Manager
Downloaded and installed Magisk in the app which detected TWRP rebooted and installed.
Enabled Magisk Hide.
installed Remote Play 2.0 APK
Opened Magisk
Downloaded the Sony Framework within magisk
Enabled it
Uninstalled the SuperSU application.
Added remote play in the Magisk Hide list.
Rebooted (may be unessecary)
Bam Remote Play doesnt detect root and works all but the DS4 wont pair sadly..
Though i guess there is a method to get controller working while near the Ps4. Ill test now.
The onscreen controls disappear when not touched.
Heres some pictueres. Screenshots are blocked in app.
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CJD14 said:
Bam Remote Play doesnt detect root and works all but the DS4 wont pair sadly..
Though i guess there is a method to get controller working while near the Ps4. Ill test now.
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If you are @ home you need a second user. User #1 will be you main player account. User#2 will be used for the remote play.
You sign in with the tablet/smartphone by using user#2
After that you just pick your DS4 controller and sign in directly to the ps4 with user#1 just like you play on your TV. The remote play will just be used to show the screen and hear the sound. The controlls go directly to the ps4. This will only work @ home if the controller is in range of the PS4.
Did you try to connect via OTG?
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seppimontana said:
If you are @ home you need a second user. User #1 will be you main panel account. User#2 will be used for the remote play.
You sign in with the tablet/smartphone by using user#2
After that you just pick your DS4 controller and sign in directly to the ps4 with user#1 just like you play on your TV. The remote play will just be used to show the screen and hear the sound. The controlls go directly to the ps4. This will only work @ home if the controller is in range of the PS4.
Did you try to connect via OTG?
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Perfect. That worked. No probs. Thanks for posting that here.
This works great and all i use remote play for is when im in bed. I have a crappy setup thats uncomfortable for playing directly, so this is perfect.
OTG did not attempt yet. Gotta locate my OTG adapter.
Will of course update if successful.
EDIT UPDATE:
Found USB OTG. No success. Plugging it in, the controller goes in charging state with yellow slow blink on light pad. Tablet accepts input from it. But doesnt do anything in the Remote Play app itself. Unfortunately..
Sixaxis Controller did nothinf to help as attempting to use USB with it shows Unable to Find USB Interface. Though maybe im doing it wrong.
Anyway. Looks like the in home method with second account is only way now anyways.
Watch sony will soon break that in update 4.5.0.1 or something idiotic. Messed up..
CJD14 said:
I have great news to report.
Good catch on the Magisk because it worked.
I got it working this way.
I have TWRP installed already.
I was rooted with SuperSU already on Nougat.
I installed Magisk Manager
Downloaded and installed Magisk in the app which detected TWRP rebooted and installed.
Enabled Magisk Hide.
installed Remote Play 2.0 APK
Opened Magisk
Downloaded the Sony Framework within magisk
Enabled it
Uninstalled the SuperSU application.
Added remote play in the Magisk Hide list.
Rebooted (may be unessecary)
Bam Remote Play doesnt detect root and works all but the DS4 wont pair sadly..
Though i guess there is a method to get controller working while near the Ps4. Ill test now.
The onscreen controls disappear when not touched.
Heres some pictueres. Screenshots are blocked in app.
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Good news! Think I'll start fresh from nougat then. Not rooted yet, so now I'll root a fresh nougat. Downloading the ota first.
Thanks for reporting!
Btw guys, you don't need supersu if you use magisk (though they are compatible) as magisk is also a root solution.
Thanks to your guide CJD14 (with slight modification because I wasn't rooted yet), I was able to get remote play working on my shield. I first downloaded the OTA to nougat, then rooted using magisk.
And better still, I got the DS4 to work.....sorta.
DS4 connects to nougat natively as android gamepad. To pair it:
- go to bluetooth settings on tablet
- hold options+ps buttons until led begins to flash. You should now see "android gamepad" in the bluetooth options as a pairable item
Once paired, you can use it to navigate around and play any games that support android gamepad profiles. To use it with remote play, you need to map the buttons to the screen using the Shield's built in Game Mapper function (no need for sixaxis app).
- open remote play app
- connect to your ps4
- hold the options button on the ds4 until the game mapper options display
- map all buttons of the ds4 to the screen
(I would suggest NOT to map the options button so that you can continue to use it to access the game mapper profile, just tap the screen for options. Same with PS button)
Thanks for your help!
I was able to pair the DS4 with my smartphone too... But i don't have a shield device. Unlucky me....
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Hi, I can confirm the magisk method is working on Shield K1 tablet on marshmallow. Did the following:
- first, should be rooted
- installed magisk thru twrp
- downloaded and enabled sony framework within magisk
- sideloaded remoteplay 2.0
- hide it in magisk
- uninstall supersu app (so you won't get the 88001003 error)
- reboot
- run remoteplay app
Done!
Hi, I use root in all my devices from a lot of time but now I'm 41yo and no more interested in this.
I use root "now only" for
1) call recording (BCR);
2) SwifthBackup;
3) Revanced.
So, call recorder seems to be installed also without root: just put apk in system app directory!
... but, how I can move an apk in system directory without root or twrp, and with locked bootloader?
SwifthBackup can work without root? I don't remember but I can search.
Revanced isn't a problem, I can use with microG.
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Any help about my doubts?
I want try also because VPN not work, and after a months of email with support "seems" can be related to unlocked/rooted device.
I want just try.
Ty.
Without root, Swift Backup can backup app APK files, but not the app data. It does allow you to grant adb permissions through Shizuku, but I never figured out what [if anything] that allows it to do. I wasn't able to backup app data with ADB privelages.
I don't know the answer to the Call Recording issue.
lupastro82 said:
Hi, I use root in all my devices from a lot of time but now I'm 41yo and no more interested in this.
I use root "now only" for
1) call recording (BCR);
2) SwifthBackup;
3) Revanced.
So, call recorder seems to be installed also without root: just put apk in system app directory!
... but, how I can move an apk in system directory without root or twrp, and with locked bootloader?
SwifthBackup can work without root? I don't remember but I can search.
Revanced isn't a problem, I can use with microG.
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Any help about my doubts?
I want try also because VPN not work, and after a months of email with support "seems" can be related to unlocked/rooted device.
I want just try.
Ty.
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I imagine that, once you move that .apk to the system app directory (while rooted), once you unroot, it should still stay there and probably be accessible; but I'm unsure whether successfully running it will be possible -- it depends on the call recording app and if the app requires root to run. If it doesn't and it simply needs root just to be inserted, then I imagine it would probably work if you unroot.
But I have never heard of this method of getting a mod or add-on to work by inserting it in the system app directory...it's fascinating...
Like you said, ReVanced doesn't necessarily need root to work; it just works better with it. Swift Backup will only in a basic way be able to back your device up without root access.
But if you are simply just trying to get a certain VPN to work -- and in the end you don't want to lose root -- you could try doing the numerous root-hiding methods. There are many games, banking apps, and streaming apps that won't work with root (without even giving you a warning that it's because of root detection sometimes) that, once you hide root successfully, are able to run it. It sounds like that could possibly be the case for your VPN.
There are these you can try (if you haven't yet); Zygisk Deny List, UniversalSafetyNetFix (Displax mod works best with P7P), Shamiko, HideMyApp, Magisk Delta, etc.
Also, please be aware (or reminded if you know already) that while unrooting will not wipe and reset your device, locking your bootloader requires wiping the device and you losing everything! You'll be able to get some stuff restored through Google One Backup/Sync, but most everything will need to be set back up and/or lost. And if all you are seeking is to get a VPN to work, I really highly doubt that the app/service goes so far as to detect if you have an unlocked bootloader; it seems there are some banking apps that go that far, but most apps out there don't go that far, and hearing a VPN does would be a first...
Good luck!
Just Google VPN. Do not work anymore from about two months and seems can be a root/unlocked issue.
Anyway, u're right. Ty so much.