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Hey guys, I'm waiting on my tablet to come in from best buy. In the mean time I'm getting ready to start converting movies to be ready to throw on when it gets in and I get a 64gb card for it (hope it works without too much fighting). So I'm hoping some of you guys can help me out with video settings. I want a balance of size/quality. and to keep size as far under 1gb each as possible for a standard 90 minute movie. I'm also a huge Futurama/American Dad/ Family Guy/ Simpsons/Southpark fan so obviously lower quality can be used, so if you have converted this type of animated stuff, what settings seemed to give the smallest size while retaining quality for the TF700? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Hey guys, I'm waiting on my tablet to come in from best buy. In the mean time I'm getting ready to start converting movies to be ready to throw on when it gets in and I get a 64gb card for it (hope it works without too much fighting). So I'm hoping some of you guys can help me out with video settings. I want a balance of size/quality. and to keep size as far under 1gb each as possible for a standard 90 minute movie. I'm also a huge Futurama/American Dad/ Family Guy/ Simpsons/Southpark fan so obviously lower quality can be used, so if you have converted this type of animated stuff, what settings seemed to give the smallest size while retaining quality for the TF700? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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IMHO even for animation thats way to low a bitrate. I would go with handbrake high profile, shoot for 3-5mbps 720p if they are HD originals. If they are 480p originals then maybe you're ok with that bitrate.
Personally i shoot for 4gb movies.
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IMHO even for animation thats way to low a bitrate. I would go with handbrake high profile, shoot for 3-5mbps 720p if they are HD originals. If they are 480p originals then maybe you're ok with that bitrate.
Personally i shoot for 4gb movies.
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This isnt going to be my sole movie experience device. This is my travel and work companion. 1-1.5 is where I stick for a good action movie. But comedies and such I go lower. Animation I stick around 700mb. When im getting drunk on an airplane, I want to make sure my movies arnt blotchy and pixilated, but they dont have the be blue ray quality. I run a media server at home (plex) and that's where I keep the levels far higher.
I may have to give hand brake a try, I have been using format factory for years because I can make so many adjustments and chose the containers and formats.
get dvdcatalyst to convert your movies. It has a few presets for all devices. they can range from 1 to 4gb, depending on the initial size of the movie and the quality you want. i highly recommend it.
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I appreciate the advice. I don't have an issue converting, I'm just trying to get some feedback as to the actual presets your using as to ratio, bit rate, file type and container types, so on.
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Here's what I personally use, you can set what you like otherwise...
For TV DVD sources, I convert them from anamorphic to square pixel, and then crop widescreen movies as necessary. 640x480 SD videos I use a bitrate of 1mbps. Widescreen stuff I give 1.5mbps. These are the copies I watch on the TV, tablet, phone, whatever and I can't tell any quality difference between the original and the h264 encode. At these levels I can fit all of Home Movies, Futurama S1-5, The Office S1-4 and all of ATHF on one 64gb card.
For movies, since these are just portable copies and not my full versions for home viewing, I use the same standards above for SD sources, and for HD sources I scale it down to 720p, crop if necessary, and use a 2mbps bitrate. (you could insist on a 1080p encode, but on a 10" screen are you really going to notice the difference and need to add in the extra bps?) You get a little more pixelation at times, but nothing unwatchable. This keeps it light enough to stream over my local network and small enough that you can fit a lot on while still being a good watchable version.
All audio I drop to a 96kpbs stereo mix.
This is what works for me. What works for any of you may be different depending on what you use it for.
Exactly what I was looking for.
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what are the appropriate codec (video & audio) settings to get hardware acceleration and native player support?
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what are the appropriate codec (video & audio) settings to get hardware acceleration and native player support?
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For the native player you need h.264(avc) video and stereo aac audio.
i have movies that are h264 and DTS 5.1. I just drop them on my 64gb card (inserted into the doc) and they play fine, nice and crisp. No need to convert. They are about 4gb in size.
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i have movies that are h264 and DTS 5.1. I just drop them on my 64gb card (inserted into the doc) and they play fine, nice and crisp. No need to convert. They are about 4gb in size.
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Your playing dts on the native player? Me thinks not. BS player will however,but asked about native
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Your playing dts on the native player? Me thinks not. BS player will however,but asked about native
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yeah, sorry, using BS. native will play the movie, but no sound.
I downloaded a 4k video from youtube and copied to Note Pro 12.2. It seems that Note Pro 12.2 cannot handle 4k videos properly. I tried multiple players including MX player. The HW decoder does not work and SW decoder lags and skips frames. Any suggestion for good 4k player for Note Pro 12.2 or any work around?
because The Galaxy Note Pro comes with 2,560×1,440 display = 2K video
you can't watch 4k video on 2k display
It's a limitation of the exynos soc. The snapdragon 800 will play 4k content, and can even record in some cases.
But as noted, since 4k is well beyond the native resolution of the screen, I'm not too worried about it.
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because The Galaxy Note Pro comes with 2,560×1,440 display = 2K video
you can't watch 4k video on 2k display
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It is not true. I can watch 4k video on my 2k monitor The real reason is the processor for sure.
Also not concerned due to the very low occurance of 4k media. Im pretty sure others have 4k ciewing working on the exynos note 3 so check there maybe
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Everyone realizes that it's physically impossible to see any difference between 1080p and 4k on any screen that's smaller than 60 inches?
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Everyone realizes that it's physically impossible to see any difference between 1080p and 4k on any screen that's smaller than 60 inches?
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Depends on your viewing distance. On a ten ench screen you could see the individual pixels of 1080p at about 8 inches. Too close for normal viewing really. 2k would be about 6 inches and 4k would be at 4 inches. Considering I can zoom anytime I need to and the screen is huge I doubt that I would ever need to hold it that close. The 12.2 is probably a bit farther on viewing distances but still held more than far enough away usually to not need 4k. Only advantage I would see would be art/graphic design.
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Depends on your viewing distance. On a ten ench screen you could see the individual pixels of 1080p at about 8 inches. Too close for normal viewing really. 2k would be about 6 inches and 4k would be at 4 inches. Considering I can zoom anytime I need to and the screen is huge I doubt that I would ever need to hold it that close. The 12.2 is probably a bit farther on viewing distances but still held more than far enough away usually to not need 4k. Only advantage I would see would be art/graphic design.
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LOL at 44 years old, I'm lucky if I can even see my fingerprint on my fingers from less than 18-inches away without my reading glasses let alone 8.
I realize people want the most out of their devices and all but surely there's a point of diminishing returns somewhere.
That said, there's something to be said for wanting to ensure a device is future proof. If for example one expects to be shooting videos in 4k and would like to know that the device can handle playback of said material natively then it's reasonable to be concerned with that. I'm not sure how it would all pan out with regards to storage requirements and transfer of large video files but it would be nice if the device did support it out of the box.
Certainly not a deal breaker for me since I still shoot 1080p from my DSLRs.
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LOL at 44 years old, I'm lucky if I can even see my fingerprint on my fingers from less than 18-inches away without my reading glasses let alone 8.
I realize people want the most out of their devices and all but surely there's a point of diminishing returns somewhere.
That said, there's something to be said for wanting to ensure a device is future proof. If for example one expects to be shooting videos in 4k and would like to know that the device can handle playback of said material natively then it's reasonable to be concerned with that. I'm not sure how it would all pan out with regards to storage requirements and transfer of large video files but it would be nice if the device did support it out of the box.
Certainly not a deal breaker for me since I still shoot 1080p from my DSLRs.
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Im certainly not saying 4k would be bad or unappreciated. However with the sparsity of media in that format and the extra power required to push those extra pixels (both gpu and battery) im personally fine with 2k until these concerns are addressed. Im reasonably sure It can play back 4k video though.......btw what dslr's are you shooting with? I want to replace my camcorder with an interchangeable lense camera for shooting parkour videos. Different lenses for various effects, 1080p 60fps shooting for slow motion, and shallow dof are things I want to play with. Iv been looking at the panasonic g6 mirroless 4/3. Iv read great things about it and many people on personal view contemd that it looks better than a hacked gh2 and almost comparable to the gh3.
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shahidhussain said:
I downloaded a 4k video from youtube and copied to Note Pro 12.2. It seems that Note Pro 12.2 cannot handle 4k videos properly. I tried multiple players including MX player. The HW decoder does not work and SW decoder lags and skips frames. Any suggestion for good 4k player for Note Pro 12.2 or any work around?
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Try bs player and archos player with the free codec pack. Somewhere else on the forum a guy said that those both work for him. He even said he could play it on one side with multiwindow while on the browser in another.he was playing downloaded 4k videos btw. Another guy trying to play note 3 4k videos never had any success.
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Currently using a D7100. Can't say I recommend it for video but that's not why I have it anyhow. The video stuff I just dabble with.
shahidhussain said:
It is not true. I can watch 4k video on my 2k monitor The real reason is the processor for sure.
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The real reason is that the needed codec has not been added to the framework!
I have seen phones like Sony Xperia L that the gpu has 1080p decoding power but I can't play 1080p videos with H/W decoder because of lacking the needed codec( VP8 ) .
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This exact same problem exists on the Note 3. (Same hardware) It's the Exynos, it's too weak. 1.9gHz is simply not enough, no matter how many cores it has. Cores do not stack. You need at least 2.2gHz individual for 4K.
The N9005 with the same hardware as the P905 handles 4K without issue (As does the P905).
The N900 has, from the very first day, been officially known to be unable to handle 4K. The P900 has identical hardware, and can't handle it either. The Exynos is simply not powerful enough.
Not to mention the Mali GPU is a graphical bottleneck.
Convert the video to a lower resolution. You can use Handbrake for it, it's open source.
This is one of the reasons I refuse to buy an Exynos device.
I want to buy a very cheap, used Android TV stick for one reason only: to play 1080p video with subtitles on my HDTV. The only thing holding me back is the fear that the manufacturers aware of the limits of their hardware somehow blocked native 1080p feed and instead allow some upscaling. What is it like from your experience?
maciek1988 said:
I want to buy a very cheap, used Android TV stick for one reason only: to play 1080p video with subtitles on my HDTV. The only thing holding me back is the fear that the manufacturers aware of the limits of their hardware somehow blocked native 1080p feed and instead allow some upscaling. What is it like from your experience?
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Hello Maciek,
While I have limited experience with Android HDMI sticks; the one i have (MK809IV 2GB Ram / 8GB Storage) does unfortunately upscale from 720p. However, on the bright side; it does lower bandwidth usage and lower network activity if you're worried about that. I think your best bet is to purchase a $150 USD Android Tablet with a 1080p screen by default and a Micro HDMI out port. I hope you find this information helpful.
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Hello Maciek,
While I have limited experience with Android HDMI sticks; the one i have (MK809IV 2GB Ram / 8GB Storage) does unfortunately upscale from 720p. However, on the bright side; it does lower bandwidth usage and lower network activity if you're worried about that. I think your best bet is to purchase a $150 USD Android Tablet with a 1080p screen by default and a Micro HDMI out port. I hope you find this information helpful.
Pixel~
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Do you think this upscaling could be disabled by tinkering with the system files?
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Do you think this upscaling could be disabled by tinkering with the system files?
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Possibly; if you use a different ROM for the device (although it's tedious and a pain to do if it's your first time; plus, there's the risk of breaking your device)....
Pixel~
I mainly consume media on my phones, so how is the experience of netflix on the s8 plus? Without headphones is it watchable or the mono audio sound terrible?
I do not own an S8+, however, reading consumer feedback about it, the speaker is not particularly good. It is bottom facing (so already is not ideal for media playback) and not the best quality speaker in the first place.
If someone with the phone disagrees, feel free to update this post!
I also am an avid music/ video consumer. While I love the S8 models (and before them the S7's), we are poorly served by the single bottom firing speaker for this usage.
I find the speaker clear and loud enough, but if you're used to stereo front facing speakers, I'm pretty sure you're in for a disappointment if you're anything like me, depending on how much of your usage is for this particular purpose.
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before my s8 I had an iphone 7 plus and before that a old nexus 6. Both much more pleasant when it comes to media consumption. When on my nexus or iphone, I watched a lot of youtube but now with the s8 no single video - all on my ipad. Even though I have a stereo speaker mod that does help a bit. Maybe it is also because of the smaller display of the s8 but all in all the full 6 inch and stereo speakers of my nexus 6 with the 2560x1440 amoled display was the best experience so far.
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before my s8 I had an iphone 7 plus and before that a old nexus 6. Both much more pleasant when it comes to media consumption. When on my nexus or iphone, I watched a lot of youtube but now with the s8 no single video - all on my ipad. Even though I have a stereo speaker mod that does help a bit. Maybe it is also because of the smaller display of the s8 but all in all the full 6 inch and stereo speakers of my nexus 6 with the 2560x1440 amoled display was the best experience so far.
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It's the stupid 18:9 aspect ratio the S8 has. if it was the correct ratio at 16:9 it would properly fill the screen instead of leaving massive black bars on the sides and just looking stupid. My next phone will be back to a proper 16:9 ratio (if there is anyone left making them by then!), I'm sick of this long stretched crap already, it has no use what so ever.
aside from that, the stupid speaker placement means whenever i play a game, or watch a video, my finger goes RIGHT over the entire speaker in the natural position I would hold the phone, so I have to hold it awkwardly to get any sound out of it.
yeah the 18:9 is at this time just a pain in the neck. The only "positive" thing is the smaller form factor of the 5.8" phone. But I think that this new aspect ratio is the future, so sadly this may sound.. Most of the apps and nearly all games are 16:9, this does take a loong time that every developer switches to 18:9 - just like the process of switching USB A to USB C.
I think even with the small bezels on top and bottom of the s8 would have allowed it to place dual front facing speakers. The old nexus 6 had also very small bezels on top and bottom and the speaker was just great. The fact that the galaxy`s now all have to be waterproof is also downgrading the speaker in its soundquality i think...
Hey all,
Since no one has started this thread. Let me kick it off.
Please share your videos you shot through Cinema Pro app.
I'm impressed with video quality of these camera(s). I was planning to get Sony a6400 for shooting cinematic travel videos. But I'm going to give this phone a try before investing. This phone won't hold a candle to top end mirrorless cameras but for a rookie, someone like me, this phone is beyond impressive. I'd say it's a great device for people who like cinematography or want to learn it.
I've shot a couple of 4k videos. Handheld and colour graded with LUTs in post processing. I prefer mobile workstation. That's why I edit all my videos on my iPad pro with LumaFusion app.
Here they are--
Weekend 17 Mile Drive
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Los Angeles Vacation
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Sacramento, California
This one was shot on gimbal but stabilization was turned off in Cinema Pro app which I didn't notice while recording. That's why footage is still laggy and stuttery. This one is not colour graded. Colour and looks are straight from CinemaPro app.
Also, phone was on initial firmware. Fresh out of the box.
you could put with which program you make assemblies
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you could put with which program you make assemblies
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Thank you for the suggestion. I updated original post.
Thank you for the videos!
I still struggle to understand how this app works and what to do whith it. You said you didn't see the stabilization was off? Where do you find this setting?
Hildr said:
Thank you for the videos!
I still struggle to understand how this app works and what to do whith it. You said you didn't see the stabilization was off? Where do you find this setting?
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Basically Cinema Pro app let's you shoot videos in manual mode. Giving you more control over lenses. You can play with shutter shutte and ISO till your scene is properly exposed and set those values. It also let's you select white balance to suit your indoor or outdoor environment.
Manual focus is very useful when you want to dramatically reveal something by going out of focus to sharp focus.
I tend to shoot all my videos in 4k at 29.98fps which I think works best for me. Also, I go with "Venice CS" look. I found that to be flatter of all looks and easier to colour grade in post processing.
You can find stabilization option when you're selecting lens(it's in tip right hand corner as seen in the attached image)
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Thank you!
My trouble was you can only set iso and shutter speed manually, and before the record. That basically means you have to do different take when lights change. Not like the standard camera phone. So it's a completely whole different way of recording things.
Anyway, I did some record at a free live concert yesterday.
It was the first time and I found out that I have to be extremely careful where I put my hands on the phone to not block the microphones. Maybe putting off the cover from the phone would be even better.
Here is the video, with a lot of sound issue due to my hand on the microphones. But image is good, considering the conditions, 4K and HDR, and well stabilized in the end, it's handheld.
You even have the example of what it does on the other phones, sometimes they can't keep up with the stroboscopic lights.
https://youtu.be/_wxkll2LS88
I purposely choose to share this one because of the sound problem, well, that is not a problem, but a warning, be careful with the way you keep your phone in hand. I don't have this sound fluctuation on every video I've made.