external microphone issues - HTC U11 Questions & Answers

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i have recently purchased the U11 and i was wondering about the use of an external microphone. I have a sony ecm 907 stereo condenser microphone with internal battery. I am using the camera / video app that came with the phone .
When i plugged it in using the 3.5mm / usb adapter, a dialog box popped up to inform me that the microphone was being installed .... in all cases the microphone is connected prior to launching the camera app.
i have also tried an electret unpowered lavalier mic but it treats this as a headphone
But the video app continues to only use the onboard microphones. I have tried front and rear cameras, 3d audio and hi-res audio in all possible combinations.
Is this simply a limitation of the camera software? or..
Do i need to use a particular type of microphone?
Do i need to install a 3rd party app such as Filmic Pro?
Do i need to change any other settings?
Do i need to install a patch/ app to get round this issue?

The phone won't have drivers to use the hardware and isn't capable of installing them as root is protected.
You will need an app to use it or there is even the chance you might have to root or even accept that it may not work at all..

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[Q] Use bluetooth headset mic instead of phone mic

I've searched around on the forums for an answer to this but could never find anything that seems to match up to my issue.
I have a A2DP enabled headset and want to use it with apps such as Team Speak 3 beta, Vent, and other apps. But for some reason although phone media happily plays over onto my headset. My phone continues to only use the mic built into the phone instead of the bluetooth headset mic.
Any apps designed to use the headset specifically work (ie. normal phone calls, skype, vlingo) but otherwise apps ignore the headset mic.
I already tried using apps like BT Mono and Super BT Mono Froyo but they seem to only pipe audio to the headset, but don't do anything at all with the headset mic.
Does anybody know how to get the headset mic to be selected by apps instead of just the built-in mic?
My device is a Sumsung Galaxy S II ( I9100 ). Both Stock and CyanogenMod Gingerbread
good good good
Still hoping someone may know how to get the Galaxy S II phone to use a bluetooth headset mic instead of the built-in mic on the phone.
I'm really stumped on how to do this.
I still haven't seemed to have any luck finding a way to forcefully map apps to use the headset mic. I'm beginning to wounder if it's possible with the Android OS.
I have the galaxy s2 as well and I've retired several different things and have been unsuccessful with anything I've tried so far... Really difficult to drive and use vent without a headset.
Yeah I'm wanting to do the same thing.. I don't spose you've found a way in the last couple of months? Surely it can be done - may need to get a dev to write something for it though..
Sorry Lilfellabob, still no luck. I find it odd it's so difficulty to remap audio settings.
Even in Ice Cream Sandwich I can't find a way.
The app would need to be written to accept it. Its not a matter of your phone. Its the apps. Think about it for a min. If it works on apps made to use it but another app doesn't work then where does the problem lay?
The thing is, typically other apps should be able to re-route the app to use the headset mic. Alike how there are apps that can force other apps to use bluetooth audio instead of the phone speaker, even if the phone/headset can't use a2dp.
Dav_Edward said:
The thing is, typically other apps should be able to re-route the app to use the headset mic. Alike how there are apps that can force other apps to use bluetooth audio instead of the phone speaker, even if the phone/headset can't use a2dp.
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Only if the code is there for it to do it. If they don't code it in then it doesn't work.
I'm having a similar problem but slightly the opposite.
I pair my phone to a Bluetooth device that lets me hear phone output on my car's speakers. However, the phone tries to use Bluetooth for the microphone when none exists. I want to force it to use the on-phone microphone. I can talk and talk but no one can hear me, unless I set the phone output to speaker or handset, which implies setting the phone input to amplified built-in mic, or just built-in mic, respectively.
In the Bluetooth settings I can set to use the Bluetooth device for music or phone, but ideally I would want "Phone" to be separated into "Phone output" and "Phone input" so I could uncheck input (and thus use the built-in mic.) This should be implemented at the Android level so that the setting can apply to all apps.
The same problem occured when I wired (2-stripe phone-to-car audio only, no mic) my Palm Pre directly to my car. I just tried with my GNex and it was smart enough to use the built-in mic when a microphone-less plug was connected.
zelendel said:
Only if the code is there for it to do it. If they don't code it in then it doesn't work.
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wrong. its in the kernel. the new firmware on the android is is capable to transmit Audio Steam to Headset device as Audio only. i wont go 100% against coding to force it to but if they wanted to theres have to be some kind of exploit to do so. lets say if skype were to find that exploit or code it, it would be probably violate android policy.
HtcEvo4gLTE said:
wrong. its in the kernel. the new firmware on the android is is capable to transmit Audio Steam to Headset device as Audio only. i wont go 100% against coding to force it to but if they wanted to theres have to be some kind of exploit to do so. lets say if skype were to find that exploit or code it, it would be probably violate android policy.
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Actually, what's going on is Skype is using the 'bluetooth device' hook of some sort, just like other apps that support piping audio to the bluetooth headset. However most apps don't use the bluetooth device API/hook and just dumbly send their audio to 'default output device' and 'default input device' blindly and let the OS or Kernel decide where to send it.
The OS or Kernel when it senses a bluetooth device with the 'media' profile on it is present, it changes the default output device to the headset, but it doesn't seem to bother doing the same for the bluetooth mic for the default input device.
Because apps like Teamspeak 3 just blindly use default audio device because it doesn't use bluetooth APIs in the app itself, I have no way to make it use the headset mic.
I wish someone could make a mod or app that will allow mapping the default input to a bluetooth mic when present.
As far as I know, Skype has problems using the BT mike as well. In fact, they took a user survey regarding the issue for android and iOS users. However, I cannot find the results of that survey / study, and Skype recommendations thereof.
User choice to use BT mike seems so BASIC to me, I wonder how it was overlooked...!
Rooting will crack open the full power of your Android device!
Dav_Edward said:
Sorry Lilfellabob, still no luck. I find it odd it's so difficulty to remap audio settings.
Even in Ice Cream Sandwich I can't find a way.
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zelendel said:
The app would need to be written to accept it. Its not a matter of your phone. Its the apps. Think about it for a min. If it works on apps made to use it but another app doesn't work then where does the problem lay?
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Rooting the device would give apps or the user permissions to modify system audio controller's (idk if it is anything like ALSA or anything..) settings to make app use the audio channel for the bluetooth headset... an example for the Galaxy s2 i9100 i have is the radio app "Sprit FM" has a "volume control stream" setting which allows the user to select what volume "control" will control the volume of the app's audio output
anywho... i hope it helps a little
rwong48, I have now the same problem that you have described. Have you solved it with any app for Andorid?
Thanks!
Solution
I found an app that solves this problem on android devices, it's called btmono and you can find it in the Google store. I tried to post the link but I don't have enough posts under my belt...
Anyways, pair your device, open the program (such as ts3), connect to your server and then turn on btmono. Voila!
Well, I tried to delete this after I saw that you had already tried btmono, but I couldn't figure out how so just disregard this message.
I already tried btmono, sadly although it works for the output audio, it does *not* work with the headset mic. Programs like TS3 will still keep using the phone's built-in mic, not the headset mine despite using btmono. The only thing btmono does is pipe the output audio to the headset only.
Thanks for the suggestion though
I can't believe they haven't fixed that yet. It is so basic...
Hey guys I'm going through the same issues with my note 2. Svoice was the only one that works but its painfully slow and inaccurate.
Anyways I've tried utter! robin and aivc. Aivc works pretty good but at least it uses the mic.
Utter is really promising but no Bluetooth mic. The devs have acknowledged it though. So hopefully soon.
Update: AIVC has one downfall. The app can't open if the screen is locked like utter and svoice can when prompted from bluetooth. Also, it only listens automatically the first time. If you close it without killing the app, you'll have to press the mic icon manually every time (which takes away from the purpose of handsfree).

Q: bluetooth headset for video recording.

Does anyone know of a way for the camera to record video and use the Bluetooth via headset for audio? Or any other cheap wireless mic solution that will work with on an android phone and doesn't require recording audio and video separately? Thanks
TheEnternal said:
Does anyone know of a way for the camera to record video and use the Bluetooth via headset for audio? Or any other cheap wireless mic solution that will work with on an android phone and doesn't require recording audio and video separately? Thanks
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If you connect your BT headset it still records from it's normal mic?
laurensschu said:
If you connect your BT headset it still records from it's normal mic?
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It does, I just ended up using a wired mic with another camera
laurensschu said:
If you connect your BT headset it still records from it's normal mic?
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Yes. The camera app only records from the internal mic. I really need a wireless solution that allows me to have the microphone several meters away to record the sound. I could only find wired solutions and they were not even for android.
I think I've got it!
so, I've been trying to do this exact same thing for about a week now, and I think I've got it. with the help of some random people on the internet.
it seems this is actually a two part problem.
1) get the device to recognize the bluetooth microphone (from a headset or other bluetooth wireless device).
2) get the audio into a video recording.
it seems that android and an OS is not readily prepared to do either of these, and the built in video recorder cannot use audio from a source other than the devices built-in microphone.....so....we have to improvise a little.
First, we will need to get android to play nice with the bluetooth device. start by installing a free little app called "bt mono" you can find it on the google play store.
once installed you will need to run this any time you want to use your bluetooth device in a way other than as a phone.
on a side note, this works great for listening to music via a bluetooth headset.
second you will need a video recorder that can take the audio input that bt mono gives you. so, run back over to the google play store and get "lgCamera"
the only thing you have to do now is tell lgCamera that you want to use the "microphone" as the audio source.
thats it. you now have a video recorder on your phone/tablet that will use "almost" any bluetooth device as the audio input.
I have this exact set up on my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus with CM 10.1.0 rooted, and it works perfectly. I am not sure if this works with unrooted devices, though I don't see why it wouldn't. hope this helps anyone who's been dredging the depths of the interwebs!
very special thanks to david hadaller and to Warren Barton for the breakdown and links!
joeypent69 said:
so, I've been trying to do this exact same thing for about a week now, and I think I've got it. with the help of some random people on the internet.
it seems this is actually a two part problem.
1) get the device to recognize the bluetooth microphone (from a headset or other bluetooth wireless device).
2) get the audio into a video recording.
it seems that android and an OS is not readily prepared to do either of these, and the built in video recorder cannot use audio from a source other than the devices built-in microphone.....so....we have to improvise a little.
First, we will need to get android to play nice with the bluetooth device. start by installing a free little app called "bt mono" you can find it on the google play store.
once installed you will need to run this any time you want to use your bluetooth device in a way other than as a phone.
on a side note, this works great for listening to music via a bluetooth headset.
second you will need a video recorder that can take the audio input that bt mono gives you. so, run back over to the google play store and get "lgCamera"
the only thing you have to do now is tell lgCamera that you want to use the "microphone" as the audio source.
thats it. you now have a video recorder on your phone/tablet that will use "almost" any bluetooth device as the audio input.
I have this exact set up on my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus with CM 10.1.0 rooted, and it works perfectly. I am not sure if this works with unrooted devices, though I don't see why it wouldn't. hope this helps anyone who's been dredging the depths of the interwebs!
very special thanks to david hadaller and to Warren Barton for the breakdown and links!
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You are right! Tks!
Hi bud...
did you find any solution-for phone camera to record video and use the Bluetooth via headset for audio?
i looking for same too Sam.Note4 but no luck so far
Yes. lgCamera and BT Mono works on android. It properly records the video from the phone and the audio captured from my Nokia HS-3W Bluetooth Headset.
Tested with Sony Ericsson LT18i.
Cinema FV-5 has a setting for audio source, and BT works
The only problem - 'cinema fv-5' doesn't seem to utilize the front camera, only the main one.
(can't post the link, search on play store for 'cinema fv-5')
Hello. I kinda worked for 3 secs then it automatically switch back to internal mic.
I have level u headphone and note 5. Is is there anyway to make it stay?
is there any solution that we could hack the OS to make external Bluetooth Mic recognised by the native video camera app in the android phone? its so silly that if you try for example "Open Camera" app from play store the external mic works fine. But i am interested to use the native Camera app for video recordings
any thoughts or feedback will be much appreciated!!
Cinema FV-5 Front Camera
To utilize the front camera on Cinema FV-5 swipe from Left to Right.
If you swipe the left menu bar to the right it will switch to the front camera.
This is documented NO WHERE in the user manual. I found it when I purchased the Camera FV-5 app. On a pop-up instructional screen it said to swipe the left menu bar from left to right to engage the front camera. The photo camera version also has an icon on the right menu bar that switches the photo camera to the front camera but there is no icon nor instructions for the video camera.
It works. Cinema FV-5 works excellently with any bluetooth headset to record audio on video from the BT headset. Just make sure to have the BT headset connected before you open Cinema FV-5 or there may be connection issues to the app.
These are some of the videos that use audio from the BT headset around my neck.
The videos are on YouTube, just paste the ending part below at the end of YouTube.com i.e. /endingpart
u4MWMJaahQw
Kax1yrnQkws
K1SdKe-TAbo
oSD6wklTpQM
An in-ear headset is actually clearer and I've just switched to that type of BT headset but I don't have any of those uploaded at the time of this posting..
UPDATE: Although the swipe left to right will switch to the front camera, the BT audio does not work with the front camera, only the rear camera. Perhaps Cinema FV-5 will fix this with a future update.
Hi guys, we could manage this function through the btmono app, up to version 8. Today, we are at 11 and the situation has not changed .. They say for safety but I cannot give up this solution and I remain at 8.
Do you guys who got this to work with BT Mono and lgCamera have a link to the playstore lgCamera app? I searched it but could not find it. Thanks!
jhqt said:
Do you guys who got this to work with BT Mono and lgCamera have a link to the playstore lgCamera app? I searched it but could not find it. Thanks!
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I also do not find it on playstore. Probably it is outdated. I can only see it on apkpure https://m.apkpure.com/lgcamera/rubberbigpepper.lgCamera

What is the best DVR app?

I'm looking for an app that can auto record. And also do much more than the default DVR.
DVR
You have answered yourself (and me) in Malaysk PX5 thread
For anyone that used search to get here:
Most 3rd party DVR apps just do not work (are for mobiles and tablets, not for car Units), I have tried many with different results.
The stock app is very basic but it can autorecord every X minutes, just leave it to record and it will stop/start when you stop/start your car. If the Unit reboots, just press record in the DVR app again (or use a tasker).
The stock DVR needs some rework to add these options (see here):
Hervidero said:
- delete files size based (SD card size specify x Gb)
- delete files time based (older than x days)
- mark important files "never delete" (like accident recordings)
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UPD: 19-09-2017
I found out recently that the stock DVR app automatically deletes the oldest recordings on the selected memory card when there is less than 150MB free space left on the card.
A bit crude but it seems to work.
I use the 2nd SD slot on my Unit for the CarRecorder. So it has 32Gb for itself.
It took a while to get near full and for me to see that it actually does delete files
Only thing that is still missing (IMO) in this app is the option to mark files 'Important' and never delete, but if you move out those files to another folder (outside /CarRecorder/) then the app does not touch them.
Additional note: the stock DVR app only seems to supports the DVR USB camera devices that can be ordered together with the units. In other words: does likely not support regular PC USB camera's.
what hardware DVR are you using?
are you using USB DVR?
what is the name of the STOCK DVR app are you referring?
thank you
Maybe you can try this one.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByRpKQtVEWPNUEVEYnNmRFJqRWRFaERmNVNuVlE1SEdyT3pz/view?usp=drivesdk
It came with my dashcam:
Car DVR Camera USB DVR Camera for Android 4.2 / 4.4 / 5.1.1/6.0.1 Car PC
http://s.aliexpress.com/3MjERvI7
(from AliExpress Android)
im using following cam as DVR Frontcam (installed near my front-spoiler).
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/Mini...lgo_pvid=af7a6805-e1e9-4c17-8bae-4baec93f642e
pro:
damn cheap, 3$
solid quality, good enough for everything in front of the car
contra:
manual focus
no outdoor guarantee. if using outside, after a shower, you have to wait until water is drying
quality like 480P, no high quality
I have buy a USB camera on aliexpress ...
The HU dvr app work fine but the image is reverse... I can't set the normal view..
If I use the camera on my phone work correctly ...[emoji34]
Inviato dal mio HTC 10 utilizzando Tapatalk
Post Moved to new thread about dual camera dvr
Hervidero said:
For anyone that used search to get here:
Most 3rd party DVR apps just do not work (are for mobiles and tablets, not for car Units), I have tried many with different results.
The stock app is very basic but it can autorecord every X minutes, just leave it to record and it will stop/start when you stop/start your car. If the Unit reboots, just press record in the DVR app again (or use a tasker).
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Would you be good enough to tell me the exact tasker command required to start the recording that you mention please?
Can someone reupload the built in apk of the application DVR Assistant?
My car's dash cam didn't come with the app built in.
tharwat96 said:
Can someone reupload the built in apk of the application DVR Assistant?
My car's dash cam didn't come with the app built in.
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It is built in, you need to enable it in Factory Settings:
Settings > Car > Factory Settings > Password '126'
The first page lists built in apps that can be enabled for your hardware. I think the option is called DVR and you can select USB from the drop-down list.
Hi everyone. I have a slightly different unit to yours in that it doesn't have the DVR option in the factory settings. I bought a small camera which plugs into the Aux video in in the back of the unit (not the reverse cam signal, but same plug). the cam and HU work together when I open the AUX app which came pre-loaded in the HU. However I can't seem to find any way to make it record. All other android apps won't work as they don't look for a cam signal coming from the Aux port.
Does anyone know any apps that would use the AUX signal?
I don’t think there is any app that can do that. As a compromise, you can use one that captures your screen, so you preview the camera and record your screen. Hope it helps!

External Microphone for Fire HD 10 (9th generation)

Hi, I have a Fire HD 10, sideloaded Google Play Store, but otherwise standard. I purchased a 3.5 mm audio jack style lavalier microphone that is supposedly compatible with all tablets and smartphones that have a 3.5 mm jack. The Fire HD 10 tablet doesn't seem to recognize it. When I record video, it's still using the internal microphone. I tried the microphone on a Samsung Note phone and it seems to be working. I'm a complete newbie and was wondering if there are any tricks to get it to work. Microphone: PoP voice Upgraded Lavalier Lapel Microphone. Thanks in advance!
I figured some things out. First, the USB C input worked vs. the 3.5 mm jack. I used an adapter to test it out with a Voice Recording app which defaulted to detecting an external microphone. When using the app, I had to disable Alexa who was using the microphone. Then I had to download a different camera app since the default camera app with Fire HD Tablet did not allow an external microphone. Open Camera does allow a setting to default to external microphone when present. Now I can record videos with the lav mic.
catwright77 said:
Hi, I have a Fire HD 10, sideloaded Google Play Store, but otherwise standard. I purchased a 3.5 mm audio jack style lavalier microphone that is supposedly compatible with all tablets and smartphones that have a 3.5 mm jack. The Fire HD 10 tablet doesn't seem to recognize it. When I record video, it's still using the internal microphone. I tried the microphone on a Samsung Note phone and it seems to be working. I'm a complete newbie and was wondering if there are any tricks to get it to work. Microphone: PoP voice Upgraded Lavalier Lapel Microphone. Thanks in advance!
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[Android] Any way to select a standard microphone? (External DIY USB-C Mic)

Hey all,
i've built a "custom" microphone for my GF. She sometimes does livestreams or sings in private and until now recorded everything with her (really ****ty) smartphone mic.
The mic gets connected via the USB-C Port. It works if she's using whatsapp, but as soon as the camera is involved like the camera app (duh..) and instagram where she does her crochet streams it does not work.
In the settings there is no way of selecting a standard micrphone and i'm thorugh most of the threads i've found while looking for a solution.
Is there an app or any workaround to select the standard mic for every app?
Its a POCO F1 with Android 10.
Thanks alot!

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