I´m looking to buy either a Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 , or a motorola xoom, and would appreciate any advice or recommendations from owners of either of these.
A few things i do like about the xoom are..
Xoom has micro usb (is this useful ?), and also has SD slot for extra memory (i quite like this), and stock android OS
I´m not so concerned about the weight aspects, its more about flexibility for updates, perhaps custom rom & rooting. and general performance.
if anyone has any recommendations, i´d be very grateful
Ok, so I'm pretty new to this whole Android thing, but I'm not daft and know a think or two about computers and software, so I'm not a complete 'noob'...
However, to spare me the drama of trawling through thousands of pages, I have a few quick concise questions, and would appreciate concise answers.
So I bought a generic handset, branded as an Onyx Dragon though AnTuTu benchmark app tells me its a Yusu... details and specs from Chinavision.com (search Onyx Dragon).
I initially bought it because I needed a new phone (been on a Moto V3 Razr for about 6 years!) so got this cos it was cheap and looked good. Runs Froyo on what I have found to be pretty **** hardware (MT6516, advertised as 416MHz but shown to be around 207MHz, but not sure if this is main CPU or radio core...) with not a lot of RAM. I installed an 8Gb SD card to save the apps and keep as much free internal space as possible, in case the OS supports disc memory (?). The wireless is good and screen works well, but the GPS, navigation and camera are rubbish, but they are not why I bought it; I have a decent camera and I can read a map. Its definitely 'entry level' so I'm not too bothered if I brick it.
Since I got it, and seeing the many cheap 'clones' out there, I'm keen to get into them a bit more and start developing. I already rooted it with z4root, BusyBox and Superuser all installed fine. ROM Manager is running but because I don't know the actual brand I'm not yet running ClockWorkMod (doesn't show up in the list). I'm keen to install Gingerbread or maybe even CyanogenMod 7, but cannot flash the ROM without CWM. Can anyone tell me what phone 'model' I should use for this particular handset?
I can't overclock the chipset, but have been looking at other clones to play with, such as htc Incredible G11i Pro clone from etotalk.com and 'CyberStar' 3G handset with MT6573 650MHz chipset (also from Chinavision).
Does anyone have any knowledge/experience with these clones? They look great and if they work as well as the budget model I have now then there is certainly potential. Sure, they may not be as good as a genuine Galaxy or Nexus, but then the price reflects that. However, as a cheap development platform you can't really go wrong! I'd like to see faster processors and more hardware mod ability such as clocking, just to see what is possible. Anyone tried ICS on one of these? I read elsewhere that if Froyo runs ok on a cheap device then GB should be better. My friend has GB 2.3.3 on a genuine $500 Galaxy S2 and I'd love to show him up with a rooted and clocked clone running ICS for a fraction of the price!!
Well, thats not as concise as I would like, but it covers pretty much everything. One last thing though, I cannot install ES File Explorer 1.6.1, it will download from Market and attempt to install but then fail. The latest version I have is the pre-installed 1.4.2.2. I've tried everything I can think of; downloading on my Mac and copying via USB to install from Astro making sure ES is not running, failed. Tried uninstalling ES with ROM Toolbox having root access and disabled AVG, failed. Tried to launch new version from package options, failed. I have installed ES Task Manager v1.2 but cannot use all the features as it says File Explorer needs to be updated, and needless to say updating it from the prompts failed as well... Any ideas? I'm thinking a flash to GB should include the latest version (or better alternative).
Thanks all in advance!
I don't think it's possible to run ICS on such a low spec'd device. This onyx dragon runs on a 416Mhz ARM9 processor with a 200 Mhz ARM7 GPU. Even the G1 that uses a 528Mhz ARM11 CPU can't run ICS well. I would suggest that you give up on theses crappy chineses devices. If you don't have money you can find a LG Optimus One for 100 bucks on ebay and it is A LOT better than any of these chinese crap phones
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For CWM, take a look at this site http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/02/clockwork-recovery-image.html and the quote below
Don't see your phone? Email me if you want to help me get it working!
And of course, all the source can be found on Github.
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Hey all, thanks for the feedback. Basically, sure I don't want to spend a lot being a student, I don't have a lot, but I'm keen to get more out of what I can afford, hence the Chinese crap (yes it is crap but if it does what you need...) : ) just a shame I can't clock mine! Does anyone know if ANY MediaTec chips can be?
Sure, I think running ICS is a bit optimistic, but I'd still like to give GB or C-Mod a go, providing I can get CWM installed. I'd like to compile myself and even think about refining my own version, perhaps slimming down a newer version to run on low performance hardware. What's this about a special cable needed with a 3.5mm jack?
And am I right in thinking Honeycomb was only for tablets, not phones...?
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Hey all, thanks for the feedback. Basically, sure I don't want to spend a lot being a student, I don't have a lot, but I'm keen to get more out of what I can afford, hence the Chinese crap (yes it is crap but if it does what you need...) : ) just a shame I can't clock mine! Does anyone know if ANY MediaTec chips can be?
Sure, I think running ICS is a bit optimistic, but I'd still like to give GB or C-Mod a go, providing I can get CWM installed. I'd like to compile myself and even think about refining my own version, perhaps slimming down a newer version to run on low performance hardware. What's this about a special cable needed with a 3.5mm jack?
And am I right in thinking Honeycomb was only for tablets, not phones...?
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Yes you are right about honeycomb. As for the device. Without kernel source which will never be released due to copyright issues you may have a bit of trouble Modding it. CM only supports authentic devices and not clones as the hardware specs as you learned are faked and never true.
droidscope said:
Hey all, thanks for the feedback. Basically, sure I don't want to spend a lot being a student, I don't have a lot, but I'm keen to get more out of what I can afford, hence the Chinese crap (yes it is crap but if it does what you need...) : ) just a shame I can't clock mine! Does anyone know if ANY MediaTec chips can be?
Sure, I think running ICS is a bit optimistic, but I'd still like to give GB or C-Mod a go, providing I can get CWM installed. I'd like to compile myself and even think about refining my own version, perhaps slimming down a newer version to run on low performance hardware. What's this about a special cable needed with a 3.5mm jack?
And am I right in thinking Honeycomb was only for tablets, not phones...?
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Hi droidscope,
Not all the Chinese phones are crap there are a few very capable phones now entering the market and they are catching up the bigboys rapidly.
For more info & reviews on the latest Chinese phones check over here http://www.gizchina.com/category/phones/ Try to stick with the branded chinese phones such as Zopo, ZTE, Newman etc because there is at least some support where as the direct copy/clones have no support at all. If buying try to get the phone pre rooted because some of the Chinese phone are getting more difficult to root. I would look here http://www.etotalk.com/ if buying and select the MOD ROM $4.99 for most phones then the phone will come pre rooted with working playstore language etc. They do not 1 to 1 copys although some of the phones have more than a passing look of some of the more famous brands. I have used them a few times and they have not let me down be sure to email them first to ask about stock levels though.
Okay so here's the deal, I have not been on this website since the Windows Mobile 5 days, so the new format is a little strange for me, for those of you who remember what the site used to be like.
So no, I am not a noob, just with the new Android operating system, I'm looking to do something very specific, if it can even be done.
Device Information:
ZTE Score x500
Android 2.3.4
400MB Ram
8GB SD Card
So here's what I want to do, I just bought an iPhone, but I only want to use it for work, I don't care too much for the phone itself but for practical business purposes, it's the best thing out right now, so I'm looking to turn the Android Phone into sort of an MP3/Entertainment device on steroids.
I'm looking for a ROM that removes all phone and data functions, retains WIFI and BT, and frees up as much RAM as possible, I haven't done any browsing through the site/threads yet, but figured posting this would be the best place to start.
Like I said, I haven't done anything like this since the good old WM5 days, so any help is greatly appreciated,
Thanks,
MMCCORMICK
Hi everybody,
currently I am using Android 4 (OMNI) on my Wave S8500 next to Bada (still using Bada sometimes since I ve got the livelong version of Route66).
I appriaciate the possibility to have both OS installed and ready for usage in parallal but I appreciate even more the usage of Android OS from SD card instead of internal memory since it is way faster!
Unfortunately the accu capacity when running on Android is only 1 to 2 days while compared with Bada 2.0 and similar usage pattern it lasts one entire week! (What a pitty that samsung did not take any benefit from having such a promising OS together with such a volume of devices sold mobiles, TVs, tablets whatever.)
In addition I've random freezes quite unreproducable which makes using Android quite unreliable. But all in all I am quite satisfied and really deeply grateful that Android for my wave even exists! I need to use it above all for calendar synchronisation (and also whatsapp meanwhile).
No I came across the possibilities of having version 5 of android to be used on S8500. But I could not find any suitable answers which version to go?
The one described here in (dev-thread) seems to be still in some early stages. Something similar seems to be the case for this version while non-working parts are partly mentioned.
I also found this description but without any additional information!
Does anybody have any hint or idead or suggestion for which version to go or whether number 5 is still not mature enough to be used as daily standard?
What are your experiences or suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
Bye
Hm, seems the upgrade/update links are all just for surveys! What a !xO%...
Hi,
You've provided me all links that you need, so asking your questions in that thread is the best solution for receive an relevant answer.
XDA Assist is here to help members navigate the site, not support. And you've navigated it already.
Good luck!
I had bought the Droid 3 to use as a mini computer to run a few offline apps. However, the process of getting it to Android 4.4 seems impossible. While it boasts of a decent screen size and nice keyboard, all the work that has to be put into it is very discouraging to put it mildly. The rooting, removing bloatware, unlocking the bootloader, installing recovery and finally updating to the latest possible version of android is very daunting. At this point I would even pay for someone to do this. Is there another phnone that I could get for cheap (less than $50.00) where there would be less work and more straight foward.? Or any other suggestions?
Thanx so much
Hi !
What we can do for you on this matter is to recommend this thread which has a topic alike , we cannot advice on devices purchasing , there are way too many variables involved , thanks for understanding
Good luck !
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