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Android Tablet Discussion

I was thinking that a Generic Android Tablet Discussion thread would be a good idea. No matter the brand , maker size etc. Talk about them here.
Im debating between the Archos 101 and waiting to see if the Moto tab is good.

Whats Out There
I have been keeping a keen eye out for the variety of higher end tablets and here is what I have sort of come up with so far:
Samsung Tablet (7")
Motorola Stingray (10")
Viewsonic viewpad (7")
LG Optimus pad
SteamTV Elocity pad (7")
Archos Family of pads (3"-10")
They all have there merits, and the minor things that make them not so great. But here is a list of the gamot of features you can look for. Some of the tablets have alot of them, some have none, its basically what you want to do with it:
3G
WIFI
GPS
Bluetooth 2.1 or 3.0
Capacitive Screen
USB port(s)
(Micro) SD card slot
HDMI
G-Sensor
Accelerator meter
Geomagnetic sensor
Light Sensor
Front Camera
Back Camera
Google Apps Integration
NVIDA Tegra 2 versus 1GHx CPU w/ GPU
1024 x 600 resolution versus 800 x 480
RAM
Disk Space
Version of Android (2.2 now 3.0 later)
-MW

I know they are poppping out of the woodwork now. My biggest thing is that the majority are really expensive. Like the new Toshiba announced today is $540. THat is why Either the Cruz or Archos will match all my criteria. But the nice thing is that there seems to be a ton of different options.
Toshiba Folio 100
10.1-inch capacitive touchscreen
1024 x 600
Android 2.2 (Froyo)
NVIDIA Tegra 2 processor
16 GB internal storage (32 GB available SD expansion)
Adobe Flash 10.1
1.3 MP front-facing camera
Mini-HDMI
USB 2.0
Bluetooth 2.1
WLAN (802.11)
Mobile broadband (available Q1 2011)

I've been disappointed with the IFA ones as almost all of them have 3G which means here, onerous data contracts or ridiculous prices w/o.
Archos underwent feature regression(e.g. no GPS), and has some whacked prices for the 70 & 101. The rest seem kind of useless to me too small and at least the smallest two don't have any way of expanding storage which makes them kind of useless as anything other than a portable music player.
The Viewsonic is the Olivepad one? Didn't seem to be all that great.
Toshiba Folio MIGHT have been nice, but that Tegra will likely make it expensive.
...just too many hawking 3G and not enough that have useful extras like higher res cameras, GPS, mics, and maybe bluetooth... i.e. I'm just meh'ed by IFA offerings... Witstech A81-E is still looking good and they just got another new fw release 8/31...

Good catch, forgot the toshiba one. Here is what I am looking for a tablet:
3G (mainly so I can have google apps)
7" Display
Capacitive screen (OMLED prefered)
1024 x 600
Android 2.2 upgradeable to android 3.0
front camera
1 GHz CPU (perferably the tegra 2)
GPU (if no NVIDIA CPU)
front camera (dont care about a back one)
A-GPS
Bluetooth (at least 2.1)
WIFI B/G/N
USB
8+ GB internal storage
SD card slot is nice but not manditory
HDMI is nice but not manditory
Which matches up with the samsung tab, but the British price I found had it at over 600 British pounds, which converts to over 1000 US dollars.
-MW
mothy said:
I know they are poppping out of the woodwork now. My biggest thing is that the majority are really expensive. Like the new Toshiba announced today is $540. THat is why Either the Cruz or Archos will match all my criteria. But the nice thing is that there seems to be a ton of different options.
Toshiba Folio 100
10.1-inch capacitive touchscreen
1024 x 600
Android 2.2 (Froyo)
NVIDIA Tegra 2 processor
16 GB internal storage (32 GB available SD expansion)
Adobe Flash 10.1
1.3 MP front-facing camera
Mini-HDMI
USB 2.0
Bluetooth 2.1
WLAN (802.11)
Mobile broadband (available Q1 2011)
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Damn that is expensive.
Im mainly looking for a ereader, web surfer, watch some videos on trips, and check my gapps when on wifi.

Check out the stream tv elocity pad. No 3g, but no gps ether. the reason why everyone puts on 3g is because it's the only way to get google apps on it, until google changes their requirements for google apps.
-MW
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My wishlist is 2ghz processor at least 50gb harddrive maybe even (dare I say it) windows 7. I would like my tablet to replace my laptop. Android just isn't ready yet.
I saw talks of honeycomb [url="http://phandroid.com/2010/09/02/android-3-5-honeycomb-to-be-on-samsungs-next-generation-of-tablets-in-2011/]"here[/url] on the samsung tablet. That might be nice . Or that isn't going to be outdated in a few months

Asadullah said:
My wishlist is 2ghz processor at least 50gb harddrive maybe even (dare I say it) windows 7. I would like my tablet to replace my laptop. Android just isn't ready yet.
I saw talks of honeycomb [url="http://phandroid.com/2010/09/02/android-3-5-honeycomb-to-be-on-samsungs-next-generation-of-tablets-in-2011/]"here[/url] on the samsung tablet. That might be nice . Or that isn't going to be outdated in a few months
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I think a 2Ghz CPU, as of right now, is over powered for android. I have a Gentouch78 tablet that runs at 600MHz and it seems to run OK. My 1GHz nexus one has had no issues, and I have it multi tasking several apps at once sometimes. It will get really hot, especially when I toss the car charger on it while its doing all that, but never seen it slow down to unresponsiveness. As for the HDD space. I dont use mine much for multi media, so 50gb would be overdoing it for me. Just the ability to have an SD card slot would be enough for me, that right there is 32 gb.
Now dealing with the android OS itself, this is where things are starting to get wierd. You have 2.2, which is really a phone OS, you have 3.0 which is really a tablet OS, and so the current samsung tablet is supposed to be 2.2 and will get 3.0, but now this 3.5 is where it gets confusing. Some of the stuff I have been reading is stating that 3.5 is going to be an entirely different OS completly, or at least have an entirely different usage beyond that of a tablet or cell phone. And that you will have to buy an entirely new piece of hardware to use it because samsung already said their current tablet wont get 3.5 when it comes out, but i twill get 3.0. This is making me think that 3.5 may be the google chrome OS, which from what I am hearing I am not a total fan of. So basically, the idea as I understand it, is that the hardware will just be the input/output device and all the applications will be stored on teh cloud as well as the work being done will be done on the cloud. This is all nice and dandy until either 1) everyone gets on all at once and bogs down the system or 2) the cloud or network goes down and the device is worthless. Thats why I like android right now. If you have no data connection you can still do work. Now some things on android that do run off the cloud, like the GPS, if you need to reroute and you loose the data connection, since all the work is done on the back end you cant get anywhere until the data connection comes back.
Since Android is a full fledge Linux OS I think it can do whatever you need it to do, you just need to port the apps over. So i think it can replace a laptop, but there will always be certain things that make a laptop easier to use that are unrelated to the android OS, like a real keyboard. With phones, for instance, I still feel more comfortable texting on a physical keyboard on my blackberry then I do on the virtual keyboard on my nexus one. Now can I develope a web page, photoshop some images and toss them on the web page, with android? If they ported the apps over then sure why not, the physical keyboard will just make it easier. But as soon as you start talking windows 7 you are changing the entire hardware requirements (ARM CPU versus an x86 CPU) which will allow you to run your favorite web development software and photo editing software, and now your 50gb of disk space will be all chewed up with the OS and applications but no room for media, and with the new hardware requirements the price goes up (not like the samsung tab isnt expensive either) but then the bottom line is its still awkward to use because of the lack of a physical keyboard.
Now I am just using web development/photo editing as an example, simplier tasks, like email and web surfing, will require less and are easily done on the android OS. But the bottom line is to use the right tool for the right job, outline your requirements and find a solution that best fits your needs. I believe that android will be a decent laptop replacement if all your doing with your laptop is surfing the web and sending email but if your trying to do less casual stuff, like photo editing and web development, then android right now is obviously not enough, but in the future it might be. It goes back to the age old question, does hardware push the software industry, or does software push the hardware industry?
-MW

Here is the Archos 101 in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZD4Mdkt40g
You can see all the new Archos line in action here:
http://archosfans.com/

Nice...
@mothy: They're all very nice and all..but taking out the GPS is like taking a step back.....Price is nice, but I'm sure there'll be cheaper WITH GPS before too long.

marcelol said:
@mothy: They're all very nice and all..but taking out the GPS is like taking a step back.....Price is nice, but I'm sure there'll be cheaper WITH GPS before too long.
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maybe..but for me I have no use for GPS on a tablet....but that is just me. Just like all new technologies price points will get better with maturity of product.

Hello, I am newbie in using (or just having) android tablet and I am seeking one that will suits me. I found this one
Code:
gpccn.com/picshow.asp?id=31&fl=Tablet%20pc
and like it.
I want
capacitive multitouch screen
fast CPU
7 to 10 inch screen
HDMI, USB, G-sensor etc
It looks that this device have all of this, but it has just 512MB nand and it has 1366x768 and I dont know if nand will be enough and if there will be any use for such high resolution if there is no possibilities for using market
What do you thing? Is there anybody who knows this company? Anybody with tablet 1366x768?
Thanks for any reply

ondrapopik said:
Hello, I am newbie in using (or just having) android tablet and I am seeking one that will suits me. I found this one
Code:
gpccn.com/picshow.asp?id=31&fl=Tablet%20pc
and like it.
I want
capacitive multitouch screen
fast CPU
7 to 10 inch screen
HDMI, USB, G-sensor etc
It looks that this device have all of this, but it has just 512MB nand and it has 1366x768 and I dont know if nand will be enough and if there will be any use for such high resolution if there is no possibilities for using market
What do you thing? Is there anybody who knows this company? Anybody with tablet 1366x768?
Thanks for any reply
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Hmmm.... looks like they took a screenshot of an android VM running on ubuntu and photoshopped it into their device. If they don't have any pictures of the tablet in action, I'd be really dubious...

Finally I ordered this one, so will post some review when it arrives.

So I tested tablet I ordered few weeks ago and realized that this is the same device as Advent Vega. I test quadrant benchmark and got 2200 points without any customization of rom.
Screen is nice and response is fast. I can recommend this one.

ondrapopik said:
So I tested tablet I ordered few weeks ago and realized that this is the same device as Advent Vega. I test quadrant benchmark and got 2200 points without any customization of rom.
Screen is nice and response is fast. I can recommend this one.
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Can you tell us where you got it from please? Thanks.

Itaintrite said:
Can you tell us where you got it from please? Thanks.
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I found it on alibaba.com ( w w w . alibaba. com/product-tp/111757797/Nvidia_10Inch_tablet_PC_with_Capacitive.html ) or you can try web I posted before

[Q] Balaxy 1000 - Is This Legit?

Hey I have been looking for a 7 Inch Tablet/Phone with android for a while. I was lookin around the interwebz and found this. Anyone ever heard of it or know anything about it? If not, could someone point me into the right direction of a 7 inch tablet that can make phone calls with a sim? Thank you for your help!
Balaxy1000
http://www.ibuygou.com/prod/Newest-Tablet-PC-Android-2-2-Phone-Calling-WIFI-3G-.html
Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxqX4XwZj9c

Lolz - Is This A Joke? It look no good to me.
This is what you need from that price bracket:
http://androidtablet-shop.com/online-store/item/98-barnes-noble-nook-color-ebook-reader-wifi- -3g
Then look here for goodies to make it go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=864

LOL that tablet is horrible. Listen to ftgg99!

The product description for this tablet is a joy to read. Do not ever buy this.
Have you ever heard of the 7 inch tablet pc with phone-calling function? This Unique Balaxy1000 7 inch tablet pc has 2 Unique features: one is the built-in 3g(this function let you use the tablet like a telephone)the other is the built-in gps function. it's better than iPad and iPad 2 due to this 2 extremely features.,some one would say it will be the "iPad 3"? we are sure that iPad 3 will add the phone-calling function in 2012 or 2013? by owning this Unique 7 inch tablet pc, you can throw away your mobile phone now, it can do much more than your imagination, like hd video player, basic daily work dealing,mp3 player, checking email, read adobe flash 9.0, play games, browse picture, satellite tracking....WOW, it's so amazing only at ibuygou.com for this 2011 Latest 7 inch tablet pc with android 2.2 OS now!!.With the 7 inch 4 lines touchscreen(800*400),you are able to watch the high quality video anywhere.The capacity is 256MB. It has the built-in 3G Phone Call Function, GPS Navigation, Bluetooth 3.0, Android 2.2.Wow,Amazing gadget! With the GPS function, you wonn't lose the way anymore. you are also able to play the games, watch the flash, taking the pictures by the 2MP Camera built-in. It also supports the Micro SD card (Maximum up to 32GB).
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not bad
i purchased the balaxy 1000 two weeks ago,works fine so far.ibuygou customer service impressed me a lot ,very speedy.:>good luck

Nexus Player and Razer Forge TV - a paper comparison

So today Razer has officially taken the wraps off their Forge TV. Even if you already own a Nexus Player you will still benefit from this announcement. The purpose of this post is to highlight the key differences and similarities between the two, and to highlight what the Forge TV brings to the larger Android TV ecosystem.
http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-forge-tv
Specs:
The Nexus Player uses a quad-core Intel Atom 64-bit @ 1.8ghz, a PowerVR 6-series GPU, and, 1GB of RAM. The Forge uses a Snapdragon 805 SOC which features a quad-core Krait 450 CPU @ 2.5ghz, an Adreno 420 GPU, and 2GB of RAM.
The Nexus Player offers support for 64-bit whereas the Forge is limited to 32-bit. Also, the jury's still out on performance, but most benchmarks place the Intel SCOC on par with the Snapdragon 805 (behind, obviously, in apps that aren't made for x86). Overall, I'm confident enough to suggest that performance will likely be in the same neighborhood on both devices. And as a Nexus Player owner, I can tell you that I haven't run into an area yet where the 1GB of RAM has been a limitation. So to me, it comes down to 64-bit versus extra RAM. Pick your future-proofing poison.
It should also be noted that the Forge TV has proper gigabit ethernet and USB 3.0 output, compared to the Micro USB 2.0 found on the Nexus Player. You'll need adapters to get proper USB and ethernet functionality, and even then, you're limited to 100megabit ethernet at best.
Gamepad:
The announcement of the Razer Forge TV brings us the first truly good first-party Android TV gamepad. Many of you have read my complaints, but Google/Asus inexplicably FORGOT to have a start and/or select button. And they placed the home button in a location where you'd expect there to be a start button. The end result is poor compatibility with some games (Soul Calibur), difficulty mapping with many emulators, and accidentally exiting the game when you had intended to pause it.
http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-controllers/razer-serval
The Serval gamepad brings the back/home buttons down to the base of the gamepad, where they belong. The power/mode button remains top/center, but is less prominent. It's now flanked by back/forward buttons that are likely/hopefully intended to be start/select mappable.
It also supports wired/wireless connectivity, remembers up to 4 connected devices so you're not constantly pairing it with alternate systems, and seems to support some form of phone mount for on-the-go gaming. Overall, this is the gamepad that we should have originally gotten, and yes, it should work with your Nexus Player.
The Software:
The unique software here is support for Razer Cortex Stream. This will allow you to stream your PC games to your HDTV. It will be free for Forge TV owners, and $40 for everyone else. This solution will support older GPUs and non-Nvidia GPUs, so it's more flexible than the current options. Again, it looks like you won't need a Forge TV to take advantage of this. You should be able to purchase it for your existing Nexus Player. One caveat: may not be available at launch for the Forge TV, as the Forge is slated for a 1Q 2015 launch, while Stream is slated to go into beta during 1H 2015. Also, Razer is notorious for missing launch windows (Forge TV was previously slated for Fall 2014).
Storage:
I didn't list this under specs because it warrants its own discussion. The Nexus Player has 8GB of storage, and the Razer Forge TV has 16GB. To be perfectly honest, I'm not happy with either option. But with that said, I have 3.1GB remaining on my Nexus Player. That includes several Android games, Kodi, several emulators, and numerous ROMs. I don't have the space to emulate CD-based systems easily, but the old cart-based systems are fine. Having 16GB would give me a little more wiggle room, but 64/128GB options would be preferable for those who want to do serious emulation. With that said, the 8GB of the Nexus Player is more than adequate for someone who wants a streaming device with some light gaming. The additional 8GB on the Forge TV will make the gaming aspect a bit easier.
Remote:
The Nexus Player comes with a generic, yet adequate Bluetooth Remote. There's also a remote app, but it crashes a lot, loses connectivity, and it's limited to Android (my wife is an iPhone user). So, the physical remote is a necessity for us. The Razer seems to lack a physical remote. Instead you're to use a smartphone app (different from the Google app, briefly demonstrated on a Samsung phone in the Razer video, linked below). This app is compatible with Android an iOS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_A1gyYRTgc
Conclusion:
We have comparable hardware at a similar price. People who are simply looking for a high-quality streaming device with extras will prefer the Nexus Player, which has an actual remote. Those who are looking for a more gaming-oriented focus will appreciate the Stream app and extra storage and RAM of the Forge TV. However, there's nothing preventing you from using the Serval gamepad with a Nexus Player, nor using Stream with a Nexus Player. Ultimately, the choice of device will come down to your balance between media consumption and gaming.
Or you could be like me - Move the Nexus Player upstairs to the bedroom, the Forge tV downstairs in the living room, and sync the NP's remote to the Forge TV instead (using a gamepad upstairs).

I have the nexus player and am loving it. I am curious if the Forge TV will be better than it in regards to performance. However I mainly use my Nexus player for media consumption and the retro emulators.

There is no guarantee that the NP remote will pair with the ForgeTV. Remember that I can pair my NP remote and Fire TV remote with my Note 4, but I could not pair the NP remote with the Fire TV or the Fire TV remote with the NP. The ForgeTV may have similar restrictions.

I'm actually really interested in the control. Sounds like a much better designed controller. plus I like that it has the attachment to put your phone on it. I've been looking for a control I can use on my phone and PC . I carry a DS4 controller w/ the Nyko smart clip in my backpack and it works great on my Surface w/ Win 8.1 and holds my phone but I have to run a cable to my phone for it to work since I can't run sixaxis due to no root. If I'm going to pull the trigger on the control might as well get the bundle. Whichever one I like better will go in the living room and the loser in the bedroom. (Loser in the bedroom. That's what she said.)

IBNobody said:
There is no guarantee that the NP remote will pair with the ForgeTV. Remember that I can pair my NP remote and Fire TV remote with my Note 4, but I could not pair the NP remote with the Fire TV or the Fire TV remote with the NP. The ForgeTV may have similar restrictions.
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The Nexus Player and the Forge TV both run the Android TV OS. It is highly unlikely that the NP's remote won't pair with the Forge TV. However, I'll report back on this once the Forge TV is released. I'll own it day one (plus shipping, if no brick and mortar availability).

IBNobody said:
There is no guarantee that the NP remote will pair with the ForgeTV. Remember that I can pair my NP remote and Fire TV remote with my Note 4, but I could not pair the NP remote with the Fire TV or the Fire TV remote with the NP. The ForgeTV may have similar restrictions.
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Suprised to hear you could not get the NP remote to work with the Fire TV. Did you try sideloading settings.apk on the Fire TV and then try pairing the NP remote?
Link to download settings.apk - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57129257&postcount=20

mr3p said:
Suprised to hear you could not get the NP remote to work with the Fire TV. Did you try sideloading settings.apk on the Fire TV and then try pairing the NP remote?
Link to download settings.apk - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57129257&postcount=20
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Yes. I was able to pair my keyboard, but not my NP remote. No big deal. I would have rather used my AFTV remote on the AFTV because it is infinitely better.
It's too bad that the NP has a gimped Bluetooth interface. I would love to pair that AFTV remote. There isn't a better settings apk for lollipop, is there?
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Android on the Nexus Player is only 32 bit. While the SoC may be 64bit, it's likely that Google will never release a 64bit version for it, and doubtful that drivers are ever available for 3rd parties to build build their own.
IMO, the Razer Forge TV is the better system... but I personally won't be buying anymore Android TV's until Google makes them work at least reliably and adds audio passthrough.

Luxferro said:
Android on the Nexus Player is only 32 bit.
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Source? This contradicts everything that is currently known, so you're going to need to back that up with some evidence.
Luxferro said:
IMO, the Razer Forge TV is the better system... but I personally won't be buying anymore Android TV's until Google makes them work at least reliably
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My Nexus Player has had few more issues than my Roku, and far less than my WDTV Live SMP. I understand your audio pass-through concerns, but right now it seems like you're just fabricating things to support your point of view. I am, however, open to being proven wrong if you're capable of backing up your claims.

jaykresge said:
Source? This contradicts everything that is currently known, so you're going to need to back that up with some evidence.
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It's pretty commonly known. The only Nexus device that actually runs 64 bit Android is the Nexus 9. You can look at the source code.
-include vendor/intel/fugu/BoardConfigVendor.mk
TARGET_ARCH := x86
TARGET_ARCH_VARIANT := silvermont
TARGET_CPU_ABI := x86
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https://android.googlesource.com/device/asus/fugu/+/lollipop-release/BoardConfig.mk
vs.
-include vendor/htc/flounder/BoardConfigVendor.mk
# Build a separate vendor.img
TARGET_COPY_OUT_VENDOR := vendor
TARGET_ARCH := arm64
TARGET_ARCH_VARIANT := armv8-a
TARGET_CPU_ABI := arm64-v8a
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https://android.googlesource.com/device/htc/flounder/+/lollipop-release/BoardConfig.mk
@TheManii Back me up if I'm correct ;p

Luxferro said:
It's pretty commonly known. The only Nexus device that actually runs 64 bit Android is the Nexus 9. You can look at the source code.
https://android.googlesource.com/device/asus/fugu/+/lollipop-release/BoardConfig.mk
vs.
https://android.googlesource.com/device/htc/flounder/+/lollipop-release/BoardConfig.mk
@TheManii Back me up if I'm correct ;p
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He's correct for the moment, the NP ships with a 64 bit atom, but the rom itself is 32 bit only.
Who knows if goog will upgrade it to a 64 bit rom, as they've been very consistant in the past that: if it did not ship with a feature, it generally will not get it enabled via an ota.
In the past, intel/microsoft have shipped 32 bit windows on atoms because they lacked 64 bit drivers. If that's also the reason the NP doesnt ship with android-64, then a custom rom won't be able to fix it unless they can make 32 bit drivers work on it, or make their own drivers.
As an aside: the remote (or rather the lack of need for the remote) is the reason I like my NP. the app is pretty reliable, it's the wifi on the NP that isnt.
My ADT-1 and NP work without any issues with the app when using wired ethernet.. My unupdated fire stick wont work with it's remote app, and it's a hassle to use in comparison.

Alright guys, thank you for the updated information.
FYI, there are 64-bit drivers for the Intel Atom x86-64 and Android L. The first 64-bit preview in October included support for Intel Atom x86 and Intel Atom x86-64, but only Android TV Intel Atom x86. Additionally, Intel's own development page for Lollipop currently shows that support for L-32 and L-64 is in progress but L-64 is not complete. Interestingly enough, they leave one blurb stating that one of their SDKs will NOT work on 64-bit software environments (and specifically lists the Nexus Player as an example).
Additionally, it was Intel Atom Cedarview that, while 64-bit in hardware, did not support 64-bit Windows. Silvermont has incomplete but functional 64-bit support in Linux and Windows.

TheManii said:
As an aside: the remote (or rather the lack of need for the remote) is the reason I like my NP. the app is pretty reliable, it's the wifi on the NP that isnt.
My ADT-1 and NP work without any issues with the app when using wired ethernet.
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I didn't realise that the NP / Nexus Player had poor wireless performance.
What USB adapter are you using on the NP / Nexus Player to get wired Ethernet?

dabotsonline said:
I didn't realise that the NP / Nexus Player had poor wireless performance.
What USB adapter are you using on the NP / Nexus Player to get wired Ethernet?
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I cant really say if its poor per-se (as in it has reasonable performance even with 1080p youtube streams), just that if it disconnects, you can't reconnect it with the remote app in that case.
Besides that, I simply use the remote app on my NP and ADT1 as it means I don't have to actually use the physical remote. It's simply a hassle to reconnect wifi due to that.
I'm using my old wii ethernet adapter, as the ATV rom supports the chipset without any modifications (and I already had one lying around since I dont use my wii anyway)

I now wish that i had waited for the forge... the gigabit Ethernet is a huge deal... I have now tried 2 usb to ethernet adaptors and they are soooooooooooooooooo slow compared to the wireless AC. There is also issue with the casting functions when using Ethernet as well.

TheManii said:
As an aside: the remote (or rather the lack of need for the remote) is the reason I like my NP. the app is pretty reliable, it's the wifi on the NP that isnt.
My ADT-1 and NP work without any issues with the app when using wired ethernet.. My unupdated fire stick wont work with it's remote app, and it's a hassle to use in comparison.
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Here are my thoughts on android TV kind of in regards to your comments
1) they can keep the remotes and just continue to improve cec as far as I'm concerned. I know there's people with old tvs who squawk at the thought, but while these little remotes are kind of cute they end up being the same PITA that hdmic-cec could have solved long ago. For me cec works great on the three displays I've tried it on
2) I sideloaded the sixaxis pair app to run my ps3 DS controllers with the NP (messes up default remote pairing, but since I already didn't care for the remote anyway I just keep using my OEM TV remote which is wifi-direct )
3) I use the NP for xbmc, casting, and limelight. Limelight is probably my favorite, but xbmc gets used the most as the wife doesn't enjoy watching me play games for very long
4) in an xbmc and cast oriented setup android and iOS are both potential remote sources with cec and ps3 controller being fall backs - plenty of options
5) ac-wifi on the NP has been very reliable for my environment. I've been running an ac68u router for a while, and thought I'd get the itch to upgrade to the 87 but I don't think that'll be necessary. Performance is great, game streaming is great, I'm overall happy. For the same price I'd have probably taken a second hand adt1, but those aren't selling too cheap right now

Apps?
Guys... great insight on both devices, now I wonder if both can support side-loading apps (which I guess they do) and which are the best ones you tried already that works better on Android TV.
For example, has anyone tried out PopCorn Time on any XBMC version?
Thanks.
-Pichi

Forge TV clearly has better hardware IMO, but what about software? Nexus phones, for example, run the latest pure Android as well as any custom ROM you like for years after release. Other non-Nexus phones run Android but Nexus has always been on top in terms of update longevity and developer-friendliness. There's already a Lollipop port for the Nexus Player. How do you think the Forge TV will compare?

is anyone here skilled to make some roms for forge? you can root it with kingroot then replace it with supersu..

More on Forge yet?

Fastest Android - Win7 TV box

Hi everyone, the intention of this post is to discuss fastest solution TV plugable device to run kodi. I have googled few android boxes around £140 budget that have a 4GB RAM, fast CPU and GPU. I am also keeping an eye on pico ITX motherboards to run fully fledged WIN7 like VIA EPIA- P910. The idea is to have a small device to tuck behind a TV powerfull enough to stream 3D video without jitter.

Stream is matter of bandwidth. In other hand, have few boxes and.most used is MXIII-G S812 SoC. It's work as it intends to be. But the latest is Mini M8s S905 for just 38$ and runs like hell. Not worst than MXIII-G! If you install success OpenELEC you could have couple times more stable and fast devices (both of them) That's is waaaay enough for blu-ray and 3D movies. They aren't PC (depends on meaning under word PC! ) that's true, but why you need PC?
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Thanks for a prompt reply TopperBG. I will look into devices you've mentioned. I have OpenELEC installed on Raspberry Pi and admit it quite stable and convinient. Why I mentioned PC was that you can use it as a fully fledged computer. Install MS Office for example and do your work. It could be multy purpose device hooked to your big screen TV. But those boards cost a lot, so at $38 price margin who cares about MS Office.
Again I will look at MXIII-G and see if it fits the purpose.

Asus Zenpad s 8.0 vs Galaxy Tab S2 8.0 - travel/movies

Hi Guys,
I am in the market for an android tablet, I am mostly rounded down to an 8" model (though not 100% on this) . Looking at the Asus Zenpad s 8.0 or the Galaxy S2 8.0
My primary uses will be watching movies on the plane (I travel a lot) and using the Hema Explorer GPS tracking and navigation app for offroad driving. ANd some games, but not a key purpose.
My movies/tv will be a mix of Google Play store rentals, Netflix, stan and the Virgin Entertainment system.
My current phone is a Xperia Z3 compact, I like having a compact phone so don't want to upgrade. I have run the Hema app on my phone, it lagged a bit when recording tracks. So performance of the tablet is pretty important to me. My main concerns with above tablets is the aspect ratio and watching movies.
So ;
What would you recommend that is on the current market (US or AU)?
In real world how much screen do i actually lose with the 4:3 aspect ratio watching movies
I really don't want to spend over $500, buying from the US should make this possible.
I have considered iPad as well, but i am in the Android ecosystem so unless there is some great reason why it would suit me better i just don't see the point.
TIA
Ty

Sorry guys, didnt see the stickied thread, feel free to delete.