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LET'S MAKE A BETTER BATTERY LIFE FUTURE FOR ALL
I thought I would start this thread for our phone. I have the AT&T HOX, but any carrier that uses the msm8960(Snapdragon S4 Dual Core
chip) should participate. Sorry Tegra 3, different chips different, battery concerns.
Basicly, I just wanted a place where everyone could
report there battery life, things there doing to get it(if good or bad), and fixes or ideas to increase battery life. This way everyone can
benefit from others knowlage and experiance.
I personally just got my HOX as a replacement for my broken SGSII, and as it is a
refurbished device, I am having a few concerns. One being that my battery life is horrible. Its been on average draining between 20
-30%/hr. So, at the advice of another member I got the better battery stats app and checked it out and found that HTCDm was the
process preventing my phone from going into deep sleep(better battery Stats has pretty good documentation as to how to use it, if you
choose to use this app just read the documentation. It is short but precise). Upon further investigation I found that that process was the
one that checks for firmware updates and throws the message about "there's an important update for your phone". I didn't want it
yet(because of the no root issue on 2.20 and I haven't unlocked yet because I want to make sure that everything is okay with this phone
before I void the warranty). I'm not sure what else HTCDm does besides the firmware update check, but I froze it anyway with TiB and it
drastically increased my battery life as my phone now properly goes into deep sleep. :laugh: But all is not perfect yet, as my phone still
drains at about 20 – 30% per hour when the screen is on:crying:. I'm not sure if it is a battery issue and I am about to call AT&T right now
about it (it really sucks that they can't send me a new battery because it is not removable). But that is just me. If anyone has any
suggestions for me, I would love to hear them.
:fingers-crossed:SO EVERYONE PLEASE POST: :highfive:
YOUR BATTERY LIFETIME
ANY PROBLEMS YOU'RE HAVING WITH BATTERY LIFE AND NEED HELP WITH
ANY PROBLEMS YOU'VE HAD AND THE STEPS YOU TOOK TO CORRECT THEM
ANY PARTICULAR APPS OR TWEAKS YOU'VE USED TO INCREASE BATTERY LIFE
(OPTIONAL\IF YOU CHOOSE)
NUMBER OF APPS YOU HAVE INSTALLED (ESTIMATE)
GENERAL NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS AND THEIR SYNC SETTINGS
WI-FI AND DATA SETTINGS (AND ANY TASKER PROFILES USED WITH THESE, ETC.)
ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN THINK OF OR WISH TO LIST
P.S. You can Post more than 1 vote in the poll, 1 for normal use and 1 for heavy us. This should give us a good idea of the average battery life across all sorts of roms, kernels, setups, ect.
"TiB"?
Root and don't use a sense rom. Sense is okay, but it drains battery a lot (has been improved with 4.1 but still...). Also get rid of or freeze apps you don't use and/or don't need.
Oh and TiB stands for Titanium Backup I'm assuming.
I'm on 2.20 which I got new, and I disabled as much bloatware as I could. I can go a day from 100% in the morning to ~8:00 with 50% left. I use my phone for browsing XDA, texting, and playing a game or two. I consider it okay battery life, and I'm on stock! Trying flashing a different rom and see how the battery life goes.
We should do a poll with screen time instead.
Mine is 2-3Hr screen time (auto brightness) with heavy usage.
Total time on charge varies from 4 hours to 24 hours.
Already a thread exists for battery stats http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612612
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Hey rye-rye! Stopped reading after the second paragraph because I realized this is redundant B.S. but thanks for the incentive. We already have a battery stats thread. :beer:
OOPS!
Sorry that, Isert and could not find one nor did it find one I was creating this thread. I was actually just coming back, because I just got the chance, to update the OP post with a much more detailed breakdown of what I was expecting from the thread and also I was going to delete out all of the stuff about my replacement and yada yada yada because I managed to get all of that fixed and Done and not only that I was also going to post in detail my success story of how I went from 3 to 4 hours battery life to on average 9 hours with moderate use. And as of yesterday I set my all-time record with 6 hours and 5 min. to go from 100% down to 6% battery left. What's that you say? That's not very good for your all-time record! And you would be correct but I haven't told you yet that I was actually on the phone with the screen on using it to make phone calls surf the Internet on Wi-Fi and LTE as well as running various apps downloading new apps and checking them out. So in total the on-screen time was around 5 hours and 45 min. with about 15 min. of sleep. so is the official battery. The one that I just saw on the 1st page that says "battery stats XL", I believe? If so I'll just make my post in that one.
Dear XDA experts,
It seems I have a typical problem for most Samsung Galaxy S3 I9300 users. I've been testing my phone's battery capacity on two different batteries, and four custom roms, yet something leeches out their power incredibly fast.
I've been deeply investigating the issue across the web, with no prevalent solutions that worked. Below I will describe exactly what my problem is, my specs, and what I've done to this point.
This will be my first post. I'm only doing this because I want to bring BetterBatteryStats data into consideration, without just speculating "do this". Please have mercy on my soul - I really appreciate all the stuff on the forum, and I wouldn't like to violate any rules.
Problem
My Samsung Galaxy S3 I9300 drains my batteries as a vampire, regardless of what I've tried. Just to give you an example: the phone loses 6% out of a 100% in just 40 minutes of standby, while being optimized, with no "lost signal" search processes. Without charging it twice a day, the S3 remains mostly unusable.
Purchase and Specs
I'm its second owner. The previous one sold it to me through an auction site (he was changing to S4). The phone seems legit. Mint conditions, little or no scratches visible. The system was factory wiped, and later it turned out that it wasn't flashed before. I also got original Polish carrier boxing with instructions, and equipment.
Note: The guy didn't handle the receipt to me, and I don't know if there's still warranty on the phone. Servicing might not be an option.
System:
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www (dot)mediafire(dot)com(slash)folder(slash)wfb1spe9ez9al(slash)xda_S3_thread
SentinelROM 6.00
3.0.64-CM-gfab9e4c Kernel
Android 4.4.2
Factory battery EB-L1G6LLU 2100 mAh
Second battery M-Life ML0373 2300 mAh 8.5Wh 3.7v Li-ion
Normally, Bluelight Filter and GoLauncher EX Prime are the minimum that I have in the background.
What I've already done
Rooted my S3 with CM Autoroot
Installed CWM Recovery 6.0.4.6
Always did a factory, cache, and dalvik wipe
Tested CM11 NIghtly from 09.12.14
Tested CM10.2 Stable
Finally flashed SentinelROM 6.00 4.4 KK
Debloated my phone - not syncing, no tracking
Disabled "All, that's Google" #notonmywatch
With every new ROM, I've been optimizing settings and tweaking the CPU to ONDEMAND. Also, same time I've been running Go Power Master and Greenify. That covers nearly everything people were recommending in the many threads I've visited.
Weird facts
Phone can lose 6% in 40 minutes after charge while idle
Writing an sms can take as much as 10% of the battery
It seems odd that the S3 can fully charge in just 1h on both batteries
When trying to discharge my phone, it deadlocks below 4%, lasting unusual 2.5h when used
Screens
I've been monitoring my phone for a day with BetterBatteryStats while I had Greenify hybernate some apps. Obviously, I've seen an improvement in the performance, but it just seems not right. There's a lot of pics here, but I hope that someone can spot a tracing app, or some other spying tactics, because I just can't explain what's on.
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www (dot)mediafire(dot)com(slash)folder(slash)wfb1spe9ez9al(slash)xda_S3_thread
That's all I have for now. I think it would be a great favor to everybody on XDA to finally crack the case. I'm open to suggestions, and I can run tests on the S3 and provide results here.
Last question
Could someone recommend the best ROM and kernel for energy optimization?
Thank you, and good luck.
PS: Imagine playing Watchdogs with Aiden having an advanced S3 phone... Wouldn't happen
Your symptoms sound like bad batteries honestly. The biggest giveaway here is that the battery drains ridiculously fast to 4% then lasts the "normal" amount of time. This is usually indicative of dead cells.
My suggestion, buy another battery, avoid the cheap aftermarket batteries, either go stock or a good quality 3rd party battery and see if it changes anything.
How long between flashes are you allowing your device to settle? Battery drain may appear high on fresh flashes for the first few cycles, this could also contribute to what you're seeing.
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Stryke_the_Orc said:
Your symptoms sound like bad batteries honestly. The biggest giveaway here is that the battery drains ridiculously fast to 4% then lasts the "normal" amount of time. This is usually indicative of dead cells.
My suggestion, buy another battery, avoid the cheap aftermarket batteries, either go stock or a good quality 3rd party battery and see if it changes anything.
How long between flashes are you allowing your device to settle? Battery drain may appear high on fresh flashes for the first few cycles, this could also contribute to what you're seeing.
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Hello Stryke,
Did you had a chance to look through the screenshots? I might buy a legit Samsung battery, but just something tells me that could not work. I've already seen posts from people saying they tried replacing the battery with another original, but without luck.
I must admit that I didn't consider the time in between flashes as important (never heard about it previously). Normally, I would just copy my zips to SD, reboot to recovery, do a wipe and then flash.
Please tell me - what do you think about the charge time? Is 1 hour enough for a full charge?
I welcome any other suggestions!
zulugulu said:
Hello Stryke,
Did you had a chance to look through the screenshots? I might buy a legit Samsung battery, but just something tells me that could not work. I've already seen posts from people saying they tried replacing the battery with another original, but without luck.
I must admit that I didn't consider the time in between flashes as important (never heard about it previously). Normally, I would just copy my zips to SD, reboot to recovery, do a wipe and then flash.
Please tell me - what do you think about the charge time? Is 1 hour enough for a full charge?
I welcome any other suggestions!
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Generally no, even with fast charge my note takes longer than 1 hour to fully charge. I'd try the new battery, that will at least rule out one possibility. Time between flashes can make a huge difference as well, especially if custom kernels are involved.
Friends,
I've rooted my S6; pluggend and unplugged it from the fast charger over 100 times within minutes. Drained the battery to 0% over 20 times and flashed a number of ROMS and BLs and Modems without paying attention to Model number and CRC. I believe my S6 is fully raped now and won't recover. Battery life is horrible and it's acting up big time.
Any ideas on how to salvage the phone?
I read you shouldn't drain newer batteries to 0% because it will affects its battery life. Best thing you could do is keep the phone between 40% and 80% battery.
As for recover, put your phone in downloadmode, download your region ROM and flash via Odin or perhaps via Smart Switch.
Good luck
exxi said:
Friends,
I've rooted my S6; pluggend and unplugged it from the fast charger over 100 times within minutes. Drained the battery to 0% over 20 times and flashed a number of ROMS and BLs and Modems without paying attention to Model number and CRC. I believe my S6 is fully raped now and won't recover. Battery life is horrible and it's acting up big time.
Any ideas on how to salvage the phone?
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Why would you do that to your battery??
never understood why would you root your brand new phone. If it gets older and doesnt get updates anymore then its ok but otherwise just nah....
vbauer86 said:
never understood why would you root your brand new phone. If it gets older and doesnt get updates anymore then its ok but otherwise just nah....
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I rooted my brand new s6 to remove all the Samsung bloat. Now I really like my phone.
vbauer86 said:
never understood why would you root your brand new phone. If it gets older and doesnt get updates anymore then its ok but otherwise just nah....
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You probably don't understand all that root can do. Rooting is one of the FIRST things I do on any phone I get.
vbauer86 said:
never understood why would you root your brand new phone. If it gets older and doesnt get updates anymore then its ok but otherwise just nah....
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rooting is not just about updates its a big misconception ,rooting gives you the full privilege and a super control over your phone, almost all experienced xda users are so used to root and its privileges that they just feel like stone age on stock roms ,root it removes a number of restrictions and allows you to mould your phone as you want and not as the OEM wants! I rooted my nexus 5 on the second day of buying and never ever unrooted it !
vbauer86 said:
never understood why would you root your brand new phone. If it gets older and doesnt get updates anymore then its ok but otherwise just nah....
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This is exactly why companies don't want us to root phones. Most users don't understand what it does.
I understand exactly what Root can and can't do and it is simply not needed in this day and age. It's like souping up your Vauxhall Corsa to zip around looking good. It's still a Vauxhall Corsa and it's not going to do any more or less than it did before.
Rooting is a dinosaur from a bygone age you needed when Android was so crap you had to do it to have a working phone. These days you get zero battery improvement, zero performance improvement and zero need for extra storage or removal of ads as we have everything we need without Root.
Jonathan-H said:
I understand exactly what Root can and can't do and it is simply not needed in this day and age. It's like souping up your Vauxhall Corsa to zip around looking good. It's still a Vauxhall Corsa and it's not going to do any more or less than it did before.
Rooting is a dinosaur from a bygone age you needed when Android was so crap you had to do it to have a working phone. These days you get zero battery improvement, zero performance improvement and zero need for extra storage or removal of ads as we have everything we need without Root.
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lolwut
Jonathan-H said:
I understand exactly what Root can and can't do and it is simply not needed in this day and age. It's like souping up your Vauxhall Corsa to zip around looking good. It's still a Vauxhall Corsa and it's not going to do any more or less than it did before.
Rooting is a dinosaur from a bygone age you needed when Android was so crap you had to do it to have a working phone. These days you get zero battery improvement, zero performance improvement and zero need for extra storage or removal of ads as we have everything we need without Root.
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So when was the last time you used a rooted device? Root still is at its best!
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Jonathan-H said:
I understand exactly what Root can and can't do and it is simply not needed in this day and age. It's like souping up your Vauxhall Corsa to zip around looking good. It's still a Vauxhall Corsa and it's not going to do any more or less than it did before.
Rooting is a dinosaur from a bygone age you needed when Android was so crap you had to do it to have a working phone. These days you get zero battery improvement, zero performance improvement and zero need for extra storage or removal of ads as we have everything we need without Root.
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I guess this guy isn't an Admin on his computer either.
exxi said:
Friends,
I've rooted my S6; pluggend and unplugged it from the fast charger over 100 times within minutes. Drained the battery to 0% over 20 times and flashed a number of ROMS and BLs and Modems without paying attention to Model number and CRC. I believe my S6 is fully raped now and won't recover. Battery life is horrible and it's acting up big time.
Any ideas on how to salvage the phone?
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You need to chill first!
All you got to do is
-A wipe data
-Flash stock firmware from odin of your region
-Callibrate your battery
-Use your phone normally and take precautions next time while rooting and flashing
What may have caused battery drain:
-Unstable kernels!
-Modems of different region face problem in signal reception hence drain battery
-poor calibration of battery due to continous flashing which causes sudden jumps of battery
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So without further ado, I bring you a manual way to charge past 80% and with the new root s9 this should work for you guys to. Let me know and we can or will adjust accordingly.
First off, The good stuff.
I Nor anyone else is responsible for what you do to your devices.This is all done at your own risk.This "manual" charge is basically one small hack allowing us to charge so far up to 98% I have yet to be able to charge fully to 100%
So for starters,Obviously We need a U.S. Snapdragon rooted S8 There are several guides in either the General sections and or the Development sections, Quite easy to find with Xda's wonderful search bar at the top of each page.
Now that where all on the same page first of let me explain what is going on and what we are going to be doing about this.
We all rooted users know that Samsung implemented a safety feature starting back with the note 7. They limited charging to 80% While using any Boot-loader other than pure stock User Release.
What we are going to be doing is basically once we charge our devices to 80% We are then going to fake the battery gauge out into thinking the device is dead.
The file we have to modify is,First off undone by every Reboot as it lies in /SYS/Class/Power_Supply_Battery Which is a non persistent partition...So any modifications will be undone with this file on Reboot.
More Disclaimers
Will be installing a Xposed module called Critical battery shutdown disabler. You need the version I will list Further down below, and this one exactly!!!!The one in Xposed and other sources are of a different make and are not what is needed...
So with this modded Module,If your battery does ever reach 0% it will not shutdown it will not reboot...So you can truly flat-line your battery if you do not pay attn...... Which is double bad for us Samsung users, As we also face a known bug called Deep discharge. Which in means if your battery flat-lines. There is a chance which it will not power on and will not charge... This sometimes can be remedied by placing device on wireless charger and USB at the same time.
I will post ScreenShots down below, Hopefully in order as well So you can follow a bit better.
So first off Download this version of Critical Battery Shutdown Disabler here... CriticalBatteryShutdownDisable
Now that that's installed Activate and reboot. Charge your device as normal to 80%. As shown below in the First SS
So once we hit 80% We need to navigate in a Root file explorer to this directory /SYS/CLASS/POWER_SUPPLY_BATTERY_battery_capacity_max. Open as a text file and is will show some value 1000 being the highest. Well with this module installed and This file open You can now change this value which mine is 1000 To 0 And save.... As in second third and fourth screen shots
I have had to click save several times on occasion. This should take up to 10 to 15 seconds and you battery gauge will drop to 0 and low power mode may come on... But if you now notice, Since we are charged to 80% and now it claims 0 The device now begins to charge... As you can see in the 5th screenshot below
So now your device is charging At first impressions it just sits at 0% while charging But I have learned even though this is true Several tests revealed once I get to a actual 94 to 95 % the gauge begins to climb rapidly back up...
So I am assuming there is another safety net in place, As I figured this would possibly lead to over charges if left unattended for long periods......But no matter how many times i try about 95% it always reverts the file and Max capacity back to 1000 Almost making this a Foolproof design.... So far....
You can see in other screen shots i reverted the file back and forth to show it charging and such
I just know Those of us that say are on @partcyborgs Rom We get awesome battery life with several of us hitting well over 8 or 9 hours of SOT....
Now just imagine what we can achieve with a extra 15% plus more since in the end the device will not reboot at low battery.....
I want to see 11 hours of SOT And I think I can hit it.:good::good::good:
Hey remember the Thanks button goes a long way And Make sure to go out and thank all of our local heros That keep our S8s alive.
Credits
@firefds For modifying CbSd for our device to make this all possible.
@partcyborg For finding a root method and for a wonderful Rom
@jrkruse For getting us a root method on Bit 5 bootloaders and several nice roms
@elliwigyFor the countless hours he has put in, and suffering of dealing with me
On a side note this should work for any samsung note 7 or higher on a US eng or combo bootloader.
I hit 97% this morning and felt confident enough i fell asleep not watching it. And just as several times before. It trickled of to the point of not charging any more. A t 97%.
Today has been the best day ever for battery. Om at 59% since about 530 am. Youtube most of the day for music while doing yard work. Screen on since 8 am its a little after 2 now. Im aiming for 11 hours SOT?????
TheMadScientist said:
So this is a wip right now. I have been testing last few nights guys for root on s8. But this would work on s8 and up rooted.
I will tonight or tomorrow start posting screen shots and method once i work out one last major hitch in my hack.
But long story short. I have managed to once charged to 80% to charge now to 92 94 and 97% manually. Which i will disclose shortly.
This method will not be for the faint off heart. Can be dangerous. And probably is. But again once i limmit down one last issue. I think we will be able to hit a full 100% charge.
I need help from the community. And its weird i know. Bit to hit a 100% charge i need to find a app or xposed model. Like critical battery shutdown disabler. As it seems to only work to 4.3 or so.
So if any one has any suggestions on this please let me know.
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I forked the original xposed model on Github and I'll try to enable it for Android 9
firefds said:
I forked the original xposed model on Github and I'll try to enable it for Android 9
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Im still on nougat. All us snap users rooted are nougat. Thank you for the response good sir love your app???
firefds said:
I forked the original xposed model on Github and I'll try to enable it for Android 9
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So what i got going on is we cant charge above 80%. But i can pretty much fake the battery gauge but only to 0% but once i do fake it it starts charging again. But randomly shuts down due to "low power". So if i can get it to not randomly reboot due to low power i can get 100%
I showed a few fellars. This morning. I hit 96 and 94 % last night. And i can do it any time i want. Again this is dangerous as the device sees 0%. Even though its really at 80% +. So you have to kinda keep an eye on the graph like i did i followed the curve + time and estimated. But i cant pass 94 to 96 % without a low power shutdown
@TheMadScientist please try the attached APK
firefds said:
@TheMadScientist please try the attached APK
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Tells me i need a newer framework. 90+ thus can't be activated
TheMadScientist said:
Tells me i need a newer framework. 90+ thus can't be activated
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What's your xposed version?
firefds said:
What's your xposed version?
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89 framework
I see something now about a90 betta
TheMadScientist said:
89 framework
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This should work
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This should work
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Yes sir
So i will teat this and see if i can hit my goal. Ive actually got the best battery life today. Than ive had in a very long time. So. Time to charge up boys and see if i can hit closer to 100%
So every one know the question isn't if I get passed 80% it's if I can make to 100. I have proven we can get passed the 80 barrier. I'm charging up to 80 as we speak. Then I'm going to apply this hack job of a idea and run it.
So wish me luck into not having the exploding s8????
firefds said:
This should work
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As soon as i hit it and knock the gauge to 0% it shuts down straight away pretty much.
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As soon as i hit it and knock the gauge to 0% it shuts down straight away pretty much.
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The module performs a shutdown once its on 0 percent.
I can make it do disable the auto shutdown completely.
solution-official modded pie img by jrksure. (ability of safestrap only, no root, no xposed for pie). even though there is no root/xposed. i am still glad i made the decision to upgrade.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...wip-n950u-bootloader-unlocking-build-t3854549
thread looks abandoned but i hope he finds a way for us.....
firefds said:
The module performs a shutdown once its on 0 percent.
I can make it do disable the auto shutdown completely.
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That's what i need. That would be perfect. And yes i know the risks. I assume ask risks. ??? Thermo nuclear war. Dead cars lost puppies. All the usual. ??? I technicly don't have a dead battery so i should be ok. So what I'm doing is once i got 80% i fake the gauge. Only way to fake it is back to 0. No in between. But it starts charging again. But if coarse being at 0 shuts down randomly. I removed the module and was able to get 95 last night. But i started dozing off so i stopped and rebooted as this gets undone upon reboots.
Either way you are a life saver i never thought we would be able to pull this off. This will be wonderful for any one who is technicly available in the head. And had a few minutes.
From my gathering. From 80 to 100% takes about 25 to 30 minutes as again no way to tell since gauge reads 0. The battery hd app has a nice real time graph. As i follow the curves. I guesstimate and sofar have been within 2 or 3 % of actuality %s. So i theorize that even if i was to mess up and over charge to say say 103% i don't think much harm will come
My battery in 1.5 years. Still reads 0 cycles. As i charge. Everyday from 35% to 80%. Prime pristine condition
Another APK for testing
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Another APK for testing
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Nope still rebooted.
Hi guys,
as we are approaching nearly 1.5 years since the Pixel 5 was released, I am curious what everyone's Battery Health is.
You can use Accubattery.
BatteryGuru also has it included in their app.
It will take a few charges to get an accurate reading.
I take pretty good care of my battery, by never going below 20% and only gone about 80% maybe 10 times.
I just got Accubattery on my device so I will update where I am in a little bit.
Well since I feel itt'll take a good 4-5 charges before any type of "accurate" measurement is shown, I decided to do a full charge and I'm very happy, I feel like this is at least 90% the capacity still. Right now BatteryGuru is showing 70% but I expect it to *hopefully* go up, since accubattery is showing 85%, but this is only after 1 charge.
Running Android 11 crDroid v7.15
I did 1 full charge (35% => 100%) with AccuBattery, says my battery health is 93% (3 718 mAh / 4 000).
Not bad I guess, for a 16 month old phone which I used to charge regardless to "efficiency rules".
I used stock rom, and rooted couple of months ago. And only recently switched to lineageos 18.1 and elementalx kernel so I can't tell if there's a difference.
I'll take a look at crDroid, but I can't help installing some google stock apps - force of habits.
If I see any significative change after some charging cycles I'll give an update.
Btw are you using a custom kernel?
AnyNameYouWish said:
I did 1 full charge (35% => 100%) with AccuBattery, says my battery health is 93% (3 718 mAh / 4 000).
Not bad I guess, for a 16 month old phone which I used to charge regardless to "efficiency rules".
I used stock rom, and rooted couple of months ago. And only recently switched to lineageos 18.1 and elementalx kernel so I can't tell if there's a difference.
I'll take a look at crDroid, but I can't help installing some google stock apps - force of habits.
If I see any significative change after some charging cycles I'll give an update.
Btw are you using a custom kernel?
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Thanks for posting my friend! That's a great starting point, I hope that it only gets better for you!
I'll upload images from what accubattery and batteryguru are currently showing, now that I have a few charges completed. I hope to see a higher health.. but it could always be worse. I remember my htc 10 bring at like 70% at this point in it's ownership.. though Android wasn't as up-to-date with battery adaptivities.
I used to use ElementalX but since lack of updates for Android 11 I've been pretty happy with crDroid stock kernel. (Though I have used the last update that was out and it ran quite nicely before I moved fully to crDroid. So I may give it a go and see what type of battery I am getting compared to crDroid stock).
CrDroid also comes with PixelGapps installed, which I personally love. So you'll get Pixel launcher, Camera and other Google apps/goodies .
I am not a very patient man, and a few minutes reading about this rom convinced me to try it asap !
Love it so far, I really like the stock experience with easy tweaks possibilities - I also already shared my gratitude and first issues in the main thread
I'll keep stock kernel for a few weeks and share accubattery and batteryguru screenshots here, before giving a try to elementalx kernel and see if there's a difference
This is all stock with root and some modules installed. I received my device in November of the year it was released
elong7681 said:
This is all stock with root and some modules installed. I received my device in November of the year it was released
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Dang! That's awesome health! You do anything special?
Mine is down to 87% for some reason.
andybones said:
Dang! That's awesome health! You do anything special?
Mine is down to 87% for some reason.
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Just kept my battery charged between 80% to 20%
90% here. Have the phone almost since launch and accubattery since then. Don't follow the 80% rule too much. I use to follow it religiously but then read a comment somewhere that by following it, you are at 80% health effectively so... it made sense.
ribogushter said:
90% here. Have the phone almost since launch and accubattery since then. Don't follow the 80% rule too much. I use to follow it religiously but then read a comment somewhere that by following it, you are at 80% health effectively so... it made sense.
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So after few weeks I'm 90% on Accubattery and 85% on Batteryguru. I did noticed the stats were pulled down when I charged only to 80%, so I would tend to agree...
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I used to use ElementalX but since lack of updates for Android 11 I've been pretty happy with crDroid stock kernel. (Though I have used the last update that was out and it ran quite nicely before I moved fully to crDroid. So I may give it a go and see what type of battery I am getting compared to crDroid stock).
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I installed ElementalX a couple of days ago, I've let it just as it is out of the box, no personnal settings. It seems to be very efficient with battery usage but maybe too much because I don't receive whatsapp calling notifications anymore, only "missed call" once it's too late... gonna take a look on the official topic to check it out.
AnyNameYouWish said:
So after few weeks I'm 90% on Accubattery and 85% on Batteryguru. I did noticed the stats were pulled down when I charged only to 80%, so I would tend to agree...
I installed ElementalX a couple of days ago, I've let it just as it is out of the box, no personnal settings. It seems to be very efficient with battery usage but maybe too much because I don't receive whatsapp calling notifications anymore, only "missed call" once it's too late... gonna take a look on the official topic to check it out.
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Thanks for posting!
I am at 90% myself actually, and noticed it actually went up from 88% to 90% when I charged it over 80% to 85%.
So maybe with all the new changes and upgrades to batteries, etc, charging to 100% is just fine?
I think it is the charging overnight for more than 8 hours can possibly be harmful.
I think I'll start charging to 90%.
Maybe try adding whatapp to battery optimization, is you haven't already to see if you start getting the notifications.
andybones said:
So maybe with all the new changes and upgrades to batteries, etc, charging to 100% is just fine?
I think it is the charging overnight for more than 8 hours can possibly be harmful.
I think I'll start charging to 90%.
Maybe try adding whatapp to battery optimization, is you haven't already to see if you start getting the notifications.
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Already tried that but thanks for suggestion
About battery, I'm far from being an expert but I think it's still good to charge up to a lower lever eg. 80-90%, in order to preserve battery health and loose less capacity at each cycle. However, in order to properly measure the battery's performance, you'll have to give it a full charge or the stats will be inaccurate, as @ribogushter mentionned.
I would suggest, wipe your Accubattery and/or Batteryguru stats and give your phone a full charge from 20 to 100% and see if it impacts your health score
AnyNameYouWish said:
Already tried that but thanks for suggestion
About battery, I'm far from being an expert but I think it's still good to charge up to a lower lever eg. 80-90%, in order to preserve battery health and loose less capacity at each cycle. However, in order to properly measure the battery's performance, you'll have to give it a full charge or the stats will be inaccurate, as @ribogushter mentionned.
I would suggest, wipe your Accubattery and/or Batteryguru stats and give your phone a full charge from 20 to 100% and see if it impacts your health score
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Darn sorry, wish I knew what else for you to try.
I think I will keep my stats in accubattery as it gets better with time, but I will charge it to 100% and see if it drops, goes up, or just stays the same at 90% health.
Edit: both accubattery and battery guru dropped a bit after charging to 100%.. down from 90% to 88% accubattery, and 89% to 86% battery guru.
I think I will probably do 90% from here-after though, I still think charging all the way to 100% all the time isn't the best, but I really don't know anymore!
I'd like to read more about getting the only 80%, I mean it's just common sense that you get actually only 60% if you run from 80%-20%, but that is charge capacity, not battery health capacity.
I do wish Google/Android had some documentation on this. Even cApple at least has a battery capacity built into its settings, and I saw they have a setting that tells if say the screen was replaced was it done using official cApple products, very good idea actually.
Also how has ElementalX been running?
I decided to flash it and see how it compares to the stock kernel in crDroid_v7.17 (Android 11)
I always loved it when I used it, but it is a little out-dated, (over a year now) but I think it's still fine.
Proton kernel is also really good.
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Darn sorry, wish I knew what else for you to try.
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I think it was becase I enabled data saving, and since I put Whatsapp on the exception list the problem seems to be solved. Once again, the problem was between the chair and the screen ^^
andybones said:
I think I will keep my stats in accubattery as it gets better with time, but I will charge it to 100% and see if it drops, goes up, or just stays the same at 90% health.
Edit: both accubattery and battery guru dropped a bit after charging to 100%.. down from 90% to 88% accubattery, and 89% to 86% battery guru.
I think I will probably do 90% from here-after though, I still think charging all the way to 100% all the time isn't the best, but I really don't know anymore!
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As you said, we probably never will have a 100% effective method to quantify battery health until it's native to Android ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Also how has ElementalX been running?
I decided to flash it and see how it compares to the stock kernel in crDroid_v7.17 (Android 11)
I always loved it when I used it, but it is a little out-dated, (over a year now) but I think it's still fine.
Proton kernel is also really good.
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Really smooth, I'm not experiencing any lags or freeze, or any problem so far and battery life seems to have improved. As a pure rookie, I don't understand what would make a given kernel different or better than the other, so I tried the one that seemed to be the most popular but I noticed only afterward that it hadn't been updated for a while and that the developer is focusing on his apps (he mentioned it on some thread).
Proton kernel's latest update is also almost 1y old, I'll stick with ElementalX until next update or give a try to CleanSlate which seems to be the most active.
Btw, I guess you're using ACC? If so, which charging switch are you using?
Best way to measure your battery is to charge it with an USB tester such as UM24 or UM25 . You can see how much mAH your battery can absorb and calculate the health . Phone needs to be turned off and charged with a regular charger, not fast-charger .
I'm looking for a good benchmark for the battery , i tried Geekbench4 , PC Mark ..do you any other good ones ?
Not that I think it helps I am always on my PC and just charge through the usb-c.
charges pretty fast too, like 45 min.
I may invest into UM24 orUM 25, thanks @arcadekidflo
If you only use usb-c to usb-c you can get TC-66c , from the same company . If you also use regular chargers you can get UM-25c .
AnyNameYouWish said:
I think it was becase I enabled data saving, and since I put Whatsapp on the exception list the problem seems to be solved. Once again, the problem was between the chair and the screen ^^
As you said, we probably never will have a 100% effective method to quantify battery health until it's native to Android ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Really smooth, I'm not experiencing any lags or freeze, or any problem so far and battery life seems to have improved. As a pure rookie, I don't understand what would make a given kernel different or better than the other, so I tried the one that seemed to be the most popular but I noticed only afterward that it hadn't been updated for a while and that the developer is focusing on his apps (he mentioned it on some thread).
Proton kernel's latest update is also almost 1y old, I'll stick with ElementalX until next update or give a try to CleanSlate which seems to be the most active.
Btw, I guess you're using ACC? If so, which charging switch are you using?
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I accidentally charged to 100% again, and health went up in accubattery.
Maybe I will start fully charging..
Oh yea. One thing that helped for me for late notifications is to turn off "Adaptive Notifications"
-- It's been working for me.
some ROMs (such as crDroid) it turns it back back on after every reboot.
I just make a shortcut on my homescreen using Activity Launcher
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If you only use usb-c to usb-c you can get TC-66c , from the same company . If you also use regular chargers you can get UM-25c .
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Many thanks my friend! Very much appreciated.
Mine looks like it's around 94% - ordered it on release day, so about 1.5 years old now.
I've not followed the 20% - 80% rule, most of the time just letting the phone charge fully over night.
Maybe the 20% - 80% doesn't really make any difference?
IMO it's pretty silly to only use a portion of your battery's indicated capacity. The nature of lithium ion batteries is such that both over and undercharging can cause damage, so manufacturers don't actually use 100%, or even 80%, of their full voltage potential. The battery circuitry itself, as well as the phone's power monitor, do a sufficient job of limiting charge and discharge, so its really not necessary to do it yourself. Use your phone as you normally would, but be aware that keeping it charged all the time may reduce battery life.