I don't know if anyone else here has been following the keyboard mod, but if you haven't the developer of it has posted some fairly interesting things. I'll give a quick rundown but you can go to this link: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/keyboard-mod-a-physical-keyboard-for-the-moto-z#/comments to read all his comments.
Basically he said apparently there are huge layoffs about to happen in their mobile department. He doesn't say exactly what's happening there, but says it's very serious. When asked if it might affect the Moto Z3, he says it looks worse than that.
Then maybe the wait for Oreo will be even longer Was planning for another Moto Z phone because of the mods, but guess that might not happen then.
kirkx10 said:
Then maybe the wait for Oreo will be even longer Was planning for another Moto Z phone because of the mods, but guess that might not happen then.
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I have the same feeling.
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Well, it might be the end of the line for the Z series or the mods concept... We'll see. Unless they are in full savings mode, we still might see a Z3 with a bunch of mods. Considering that the biggest part of development is in the beginning of a project, they just might have decided to move that part to a lower cost location.
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Well, it might be the end of the line for the Z series or the mods concept... We'll see. Unless they are in full savings mode, we still might see a Z3 with a bunch of mods. Considering that the biggest part of development is in the beginning of a project, they just might have decided to move that part to a lower cost location.
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Moto Z line will continue...
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...ineering-team-says-moto-z-line-will-continue/
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/03/09/source-motorola-cancelling-moto-x5-moving-away-niche-mods/
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Without interesting mods, I think it will loose a significant part of its appeal for at least part of the current audience ...
Maybe if they reposition it as a solid midrange as the original Z play it will have some success...
Yup I just lost $75 on indienono on another never got to development mod.
12 months of BS and a vanishing developer who took over $50k from backers.
Lenovo suck.
badaas said:
Yup I just lost $75 on indienono on another never got to development mod.
12 months of BS and a vanishing developer who took over $50k from backers.
Lenovo suck.
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What does it have to do with Lenovo if I may ask?
Lenovo bought Motorola off Google.
Probably after Google ripped all the patents they needed etc.
/cynical
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What does it have to do with Lenovo if I may ask?
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Actually, the problem is that the MOD in question was part of transform the phone or whatever was the official name for it Challenge from Lenovo, and the same shady-ass Mod that cheated on it's users is actually featured in the second iteration of the same challenge.
badaas said:
Yup I just lost $75 on indienono on another never got to development mod.
12 months of BS and a vanishing developer who took over $50k from backers.
Lenovo suck.
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I guess you are talking about Edge Mod?
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I guess you are talking about Edge Mod?
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That's the one!
Very very disappointing experience.
Has left a bad after taste...
They really should have partnered with Kickstarter. At least with them, if there was a promised product that didn't get delivered, Kickstarter will get you your money back.
That or brought the mod development in house.
Related
http://getandroidstuff.com/t-mobiles-g2-jailbreak-restriction/
this would be heartbreaking if our cappys were made this way!!
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http://getandroidstuff.com/t-mobiles-g2-jailbreak-restriction/
this would be heartbreaking if our cappys were made this way!!
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That will result in fewer sales on a small percentage of users! Probably enough to make even DEV's not want to even jack with it.
Who wrote that article? Reads like it was translated from Chinese.
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Who wrote that article? Reads like it was translated from Chinese.
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Funny cause its true
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connexion2005 said:
That will result in fewer sales on a small percentage of users! Probably enough to make even DEV's not want to even jack with it.
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They did jack with it and it's now permanent rootable along with the mt4g. People like to be challenged.
From a phone
It will eventually come to all but the nexus series of phones and the geeksphone, and the XDA community will find a way to disable that chip in time.
Why post an article that holds no weight to our phone? And that phone is rooted already.
This is my Captivate. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
If the phone reverts to the original software, how are they ever going to do updates?
I have a feeling that there is a way to make permanent changes. It will just take time for someone to figure it how their updates work.
DiGi760 said:
If the phone reverts to the original software, how are they ever going to do updates?
I have a feeling that there is a way to make permanent changes. It will just take time for someone to figure it how their updates work.
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that story is literally months old. they have it rooted and working custom roms already.....why is this even being posted here? OLD NEWS!
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that story is literally months old. they have it rooted and working custom roms already.....why is this even being posted here? OLD NEWS!
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OP must be living under a rock.
Not bad I guess ...
www.mobilemag.com/2013/02/14/motorola-atrix-hd-customer-satisfaction/
Night_wing said:
Not bad I guess ...
www.mobilemag.com/2013/02/14/motorola-atrix-hd-customer-satisfaction/
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saw that. Moto satisfies customers who don't hack into their phones and do stuff they like! They want us to stick with what they give by locking up stuff. That's where it sucks! :/
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saw that. Moto satisfies customers who don't hack into their phones and do stuff they like! They want us to stick with what they give by locking up stuff. That's where it sucks! :/
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+1 Normal User: "This phone is alright, I can make calls and post pics of my kitten on Facebook." Dev/Modder: "****ing Motorola!"
MOTO gives a very nice performance at a very nice price that's why i like moto
The statistical difference between 8.57 and 8.23 could very well be mute. In other words everyone is equally satisfied by their phone here.
Am i the only one who says that i'm not going to buy another motorola phone?
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Am i the only one who says that i'm not going to buy another motorola phone?
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Oh, definitely no. Check out the general section of the og Atrix 4G forums... threads and threads with countless others saying the same thing
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Am i the only one who says that i'm not going to buy another motorola phone?
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Nah, I'm with you on that one. This is my 2nd bad experience with Moto, and it's like "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."
I had a CliqXT which wasn't bad at the time and came with Eclair (2.1), we were on their timeline for the great GB update and it kept getting pushed further and further, finally after half a year of waiting Moto pulled out and said no, you're stuck on 2.1 Fortunately we weren't locked down and Turl brought us CM7.
A few phones later, here I am with the Atrix2, a completely locked down phone that leaves you at the mercy of Moto to update it and do something with it, and we all know how much you can rely on Moto to satisfy their customers. They said that they would unlock bootloaders, technically they did, but nowhere near the capacity that Moto users as a whole appreciate. It's a shame too, because their hardware is solid, but ultimately it's their loss.
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Am i the only one who says that i'm not going to buy another motorola phone?
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Me too! Switching to samsung or htc next.
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saw that. Moto satisfies customers who don't hack into their phones and do stuff they like! They want us to stick with what they give by locking up stuff. That's where it sucks! :/
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+1 Normal User: "This phone is alright, I can make calls and post pics of my kitten on Facebook." Dev/Modder: "****ing Motorola!"
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I bet if they conducted the survey here on XDA, the result would be drastically different. I have a friend with the Razor, and another with an Atrix HD. My old Skyrocket, running CM10.1 nightly, with a custom kernel and radio, out performs both in almost every aspect. It's a shame that Moto would make such a potentially incredible device and then hide most of that potential behind a locked boot loader under the guise of protecting me from myself. Definitely my last Motorola device. End rant, back to work for me.lol
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Spoke with a T-Mobile tech support for the problems I was having with my phone I asked about when we could expect a software update like AT&T and Verizon got he told me between the first and 2nd week of March but take it with a grain of salt but we'll see
Please realize T-Mobile employees usually have no clue what they are talking about. I'll take that comment with the entire great salt lake...
Always depends on who you talk to. Occasionally you get that rare gem who is actually passionate about what they're talking about. Or you get someone who just tells you what you want to hear.
That said the timeline seems to be right for a March release.
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Always depends on who you talk to. Occasionally you get that rare gem who is actually passionate about what they're talking about. Or you get someone who just tells you what you want to hear.
That said the timeline seems to be right for a March release.
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Yeah hopefully because it's way past due lol
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Yeah hopefully because it's way past due lol
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Updated both my wife's and my G4 hen it came out. The down side was the whole bootloader unlock wiping the phone. I made the mistake of not backing up my contacts prior to updating a d had to restore my lollipop backup so I could back them up to my sd card and then go bacl yo Marshmallow. The other thing that I don't like is the way Marshmallow handles sd cards, fyi, there is no adoptable storage on LG/T-Mobile's version of Marshmallow and the sd card fix does not work on Marshmallow and all Titanium backups will need to be put on internal or it won't backup cause it will tell you that the backup on external sd is not writeable. Over all I liked it just switched phones cause I thought my G4 had major issues last weekend and neither me nor T-Mobile could get my phone to make or receive calls to or from my wife, daughter,. dispatcher, or my boss after 3 and a half hours of trying at a store and I had to have a working phone so I upgraded to the V10 and love it.
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Yeah hopefully because it's way past due lol
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I don't think I've ever owned a phone that didn't get at least a tiny update after 4 months!
YrrchSebor said:
I don't think I've ever owned a phone that didn't get at least a tiny update after 4 months!
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Yeah I here you... Hell when I bought my nexus 6, it upgraded 10x before I got it out of t-mobile... Lol. Granted, it didn't go through the t-mobile upgrade process. But I think everyone else has been updated... And we still have ****ty connection and can't use finger print w/ a case on...
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Yeah I here you... Hell when I bought my nexus 6, it upgraded 10x before I got it out of t-mobile... Lol. Granted, it didn't go through the t-mobile upgrade process. But I think everyone else has been updated... And we still have ****ty connection and can't use finger print w/ a case on...
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Time to jump then... ...:::cough:::... S7...:::cough:::...
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Time to jump then... ...:::cough:::... S7...:::cough:::...
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Have fun... Not going anywhere for a while, maybe note6 in the fall or early next year... I don't do little phones anymore...
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Time to jump then... ...:::cough:::... S7...:::cough:::...
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Yeah, I just pre ordered the S7 Edge. To many issues going unfixed with this device
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Yeah, I just pre ordered the S7 Edge. To many issues going unfixed with this device
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Seriously, are people that impatient. You know mm will be available real soon and the g4 already got it. You don't think They are saving the fixes for one big update? Why fix something in lollipop if you can fix it 2 weeks later and bring marshmallow too? Not to mention I don't seem to have all these issues some complain about.
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Seriously, are people that impatient. You know mm will be available real soon and the g4 already got it. You don't think They are saving the fixes for one big update? Why fix something in lollipop if you can fix it 2 weeks later and bring marshmallow too? Not to mention I don't seem to have all these issues some complain about.
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Lucky you I guess. I use my phone for real world purposes. One issue I have is the heat this device creates when filming video. My 6 that old had a school performance and while filming it got so hot that my device started stuttering and it ruined the video. To each his own I guess. Looks like my S7 will be here tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes
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Lucky you I guess. I use my phone for real world purposes. One issue I have is the heat this device creates when filming video. My 6 that old had a school performance and while filming it got so hot that my device started stuttering and it ruined the video. To each his own I guess. Looks like my S7 will be here tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes
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Sounds like a defective unit. I would dump it too then. My v10 stays cooler than any device I've ever owned. It barely gets warm shooting video. Sorry to hear that.
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Seriously, are people that impatient. You know mm will be available real soon and the g4 already got it. You don't think They are saving the fixes for one big update? Why fix something in lollipop if you can fix it 2 weeks later and bring marshmallow too? Not to mention I don't seem to have all these issues some complain about.
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You cannot call people impatient when you're not experiencing the problems they're facing. If you are and you're still patient, then you can have something to say.
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You cannot call people impatient when you're not experiencing the problems they're facing. If you are and you're still patient, then you can have something to say.
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Unless you have magic psychic abilities, no one else knew about his video problems till after the impatient post... Odd thing about these forums... They post in chronological order...
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You cannot call people impatient when you're not experiencing the problems they're facing. If you are and you're still patient, then you can have something to say.
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I was speaking more to those who are just complaining about updates. The phone will be 4 months old in 2 days, and marshmallow is pretty much guaranteed within the month.
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Unless you have magic psychic abilities, no one else knew about his video problems till after the impatient post... Odd thing about these forums... They post in chronological order...
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He said "all these issues some are complaining about".
Keywords for you: All. IssueS. Some.
Problems everybody hoping a fix with marshmallow updates.
Airtioteclint said:
He said "all these issues some are complaining about".
Keywords for you: All. IssueS. Some.
Problems everybody hoping a fix with marshmallow updates.
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If you are going to quote people, why don't you try to put in context... Do you work for Fox news? What he said was, and I quote "I don't have all these issues some are complaining about" end quote... Keyword for you "I" meaning himself... Other keywords "who cares" and "learn context"...
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If you are going to quote people, why don't you try to put in context... Do you work for Fox news? What he said was, and I quote "I don't have all these issues some are complaining about" end quote... Keyword for you "I" meaning himself... Other keywords "who cares" and "learn context"...
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Your context changed nothing. Himself. So, and?
Who cares? You obviously do. So much that you came back with such a desperate, pathetic reply.
Lmao, you just have yourself a super night... Keep on trying, maybe you'll come up with a valid point someday...
I received the email this morning to finalize my order.
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Same here. Finalized my order, now just have to wait for a shipping notification.
I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?
I'm confused... Did they retract all the specifications and pictures? ~
Based on the specs and the person at the helm, what else is there to know... It's just like buying the latest flagship from [Insert Phone Maker Here].
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I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?
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I'm confused... Did they retract all the specifications and pictures? ~
Based on the specs and the person at the helm, what else is there to know... It's just like buying the latest flagship from [Insert Phone Maker Here].
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The key difference is that we usually have reviews (or at least hastily done hands-on previews) in hand before forking over money for other flagships. Nobody has a review on this yet.
Sure, reviews aren't perfect but they answer a LOT of the questions that we all have about this thing. Face it, Essential's communication has been pretty poor leading up to right now. And specs aren't everything.
Example: If Essential says "Our phone runs Android well and it's buttery smooth", would you trust that as much as if any other reputable reviewer said the same thing?
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I'm confused... Did they retract all the specifications and pictures? ~
Based on the specs and the person at the helm, what else is there to know... It's just like buying the latest flagship from [Insert Phone Maker Here].
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You're saying every flagship phone is exactly the same. Pick something with an 835 chip and everything else is identical; picture quality, battery life, screen quality, warranty support.... list goes on.
Nobody other than Essential employees know how the camera performs. You're putting a lot of weight into Andy Rubin's name being involved and he really has done nothing to earn that weight, in my opinion.
I'm not getting rid of my Pixel XL just yet. If the Essential sucks (I really don't think it will), it just goes on Swappa, I keep using the XL and wait for the new one to come out. I can honestly say that I haven't been as excited about a phone release as I am about the Essential in a long, long, time. The screen real estate is absolutely beautiful.
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I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?
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True! i don't even know the full specs of this phone.. Lol
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I'm not getting rid of my Pixel XL just yet. If the Essential sucks (I really don't think it will), it just goes on Swappa, I keep using the XL and wait for the new one to come out. I can honestly say that I haven't been as excited about a phone release as I am about the Essential in a long, long, time. The screen real estate is absolutely beautiful.
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They have a 15 day return policy if you buy from Essential in the US. I'm probably gonna buy but only because of the 100% money back (and free return shipping) policy.
I forked over the money.. Looking forward to something new!
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I forked over the money.. Looking forward to something new!
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Same here. Been with HTC since the M8 and Samsung before that. Was going for the Pixel 2 this year until this came out.
Willing to give them a try.
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I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?
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15 day return policy
I'm all in. As other's noted, 15-day return policy. If it sucks, it goes back.
Hardware wise I think it will perform, and I think android will operate fine. Just my belief based on who's doing this thing.
My only hesitation before pulling the trigger was how long it will take to have developers putting a rom together that I can abandoned all tings Google. I'm currently on a Nexus 6p with no GApps, running a secured kernel and ROM, FDroid, Amazon, and side loading for apps. I want to get to the same place on this sucker. I'm not developer enough to make my own ROM. Though the idea of building from source seems like a fun challenge.
I think my biggest hesitation is in how they worded the return policy. "Disabling security features" warrants denied return. I wonder if this means the device will be permanently altered by unlocking the bootloader - eg.. Sony with wiping the TA partition permanently degrading photo quality, or Samsung and the knox crap.
Obviously I wouldn't unlock the bootloader in the 15 day return window - but I want to be able to unlock the bootloader at SOME point with the option to put it back to stock without marring the device.
So many questions, so few answers..
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You're putting a lot of weight into Andy Rubin's name being involved and he really has done nothing to earn that weight, in my opinion.
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He's done nothing? He only co-founded the biggest cellular phone operating system ever. Besides that, also co-founded another couple of million/billion dollar companies. I would put a little weight, maybe more than a little into something he has touched. Just my opinion.
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You used Android under his ownership?
And the sub-companies under playground global are not exactly super successful.
I wouldn't say his name brings a whole lot to the table
Bought mine today. Ships within a week w/ 2-3 day Fedex; i'm hoping for delivery by Fri 25th, but i haven't gotten that email yet. No cases for it... hmm. I think they might be taking the durability factor a little far for there to be no cases available at launch. But I for one think Rubin's name brings a lot to the table and will be very surprised if the phone he's essentially (ha) staking his career on is a flop.
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You used Android under his ownership?
And the sub-companies under playground global are not exactly super successful.
I wouldn't say his name brings a whole lot to the table
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We get it, you're skeptical. You're more of a wait and see type of guy. Smart move.
Yeah I broke down and confirmed my reserved pre-order. If I hate it, I'll return it. A good 7-10 days of steady use should determine if it's a keeper. I think selling on swappa is not the way to go as I believe initial resale value will be low unless reviews are overwhelmingly positive. Time will tell!
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Does anyone know if this camera has portrait mode. May seem silly but I don't won't to lose that feature I have with my op5
Anyone know if the Sprint version is unlocked?
Its later then normal?
no march update usually date ask google please then tell us why
I'm over it Samsung ultra is coming up soon
Is there something cutting edge and beneficial enough to make someone change their life in the update?
My concern is my brand new pixel buds disconnecting and reconnecting constantly. Think that a firmware update on my buds would be more important. That's just me though
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I'm over it Samsung ultra is coming up soon
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you will regret it. Just wait for pixel 8 pro 3nm or snapdragon 8 gen 3 big update expected
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you will regret it. Just wait for pixel 8 pro 3nm or snapdragon 8 gen 3 big update expected
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Got my wife the 23U and no noticable difference from the 22U. Just an update to what was already created. Agree with you 100%.
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Is there something cutting edge and beneficial enough to make someone change their life in the update?
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Only that quick dopamine hit of having the latest and greatest.
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Only that quick dopamine hit of having the latest and greatest.
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Haha. The "alright! I'm updated," until after the reboot feeling. I get it.
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My concern is my brand new pixel buds disconnecting and reconnecting constantly. Think that a firmware update on my buds would be more important. That's just me though
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Which is a separate update from the Phone firmware
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Which is a separate update from the Phone firmware
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Really? Who would've known(sarcasm).
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no march update usually date ask google please then tell us why
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A quick Google search would've told you rather than you coming here and posting bs.
QPR3 kicking off on the 13th, do the math.
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Exactly, I don't understand why people are all up and arms about the monthly being late. Are you in a rush for something? If you have ants in your pants and itching to update something, just reflash your current version to curb your addiction. Everyone needs to relax and stop opening meaningless threads. Be patient and just wait for the update to come out.
Well, maybe because one of the reason they bought the phone is that it should be the first to get each monthly security update. It's google update for google products after all.
Turned out, this month, my S23U is getting update faster than my P7P.
Am not itching or b*tching about update. I just find it funny that google is lagging behind in an area where they should actually excel. Not to mention they only have less than 20 phone models in their portofolio to manage as well. Lol
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Well, maybe because one of the reason they bought the phone is that it should be the first to get each monthly security update. It's google update for google products after all.
Turned out, this month, my S23U is getting update faster than my P7P.
Am not itching or b*tching about update. I just find it funny that google is lagging behind in an area where they should actually excel. Not to mention they only have less than 20 phone models in their portofolio to manage as well. Lol
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And how many of the 1 million Samsung devices did get the update this month?
Samsung is known to have a history of taking back or stopping updates due to massive problems. Google isn't the best update company too.
Better late and stable than early and buggy.
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And how many of the 1 million Samsung devices did get the update this month?
Samsung is known to have a history of taking back or stopping updates due to massive problems. Google isn't the best update company too.
Better late and stable than early and buggy.
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Well, consider that samsung, within one month, sold 1.1 million unit of s23 series alone globally, and those series been updated/getting march 2023 update,
i'd say, 1 million then.
number aside. I agree about being bug free. Which, surprisingly, exactly how it goes so far for my s23u.
Why do people talk about Samsung Phones in a Pixel Forum?
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Why do people talk about Samsung Phones in a Pixel Forum?
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Probably the same reason people talk about Pixel in Samsung forums. Justify a purchase, feel the need to lord it over if something is presumed better on one, really like their phone and want to convince others to like them too, tribalism, cult status.. all kinds of things. I just take it as entertainment on a Sunday morning. I do like the size specs on the S23 mini but then again it's a Sammy so...
As for the topic at hand I think if Google at least gave a reason for the delay that would appease many folks but that doesn't seem to be forthcoming. There are always little bugs we're hoping to squash with each monthly and maybe that's why everyone is wondering when. Even the columnists at AP and 9to5 are wondering and mashing the update button so for people to say just wait, what's the big deal, cool your jets etc. it is a little disingenuous.
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Probably the same reason people talk about Pixel in Samsung forums. Justify a purchase, feel the need to lord it over if something is presumed better on one, really like their phone and want to convince others to like them too, tribalism, cult status.. all kinds of things. I just take it as entertainment on a Sunday morning. I do like the size specs on the S23 mini but then again it's a Sammy so...
As for the topic at hand I think if Google at least gave a reason for the delay that would appease many folks but that doesn't seem to be forthcoming. There are always little bugs we're hoping to squash with each monthly and maybe that's why everyone is wondering when. Even the columnists at AP and 9to5 are wondering and mashing the update button so for people to say just wait, what's the big deal, cool your jets etc. it is a little disingenuous.
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the one big important thing against Sammy is Knox and Warranty lose when bootloader unlock. You w8 big part of new product because you want to keep warranty.
Unrelated to the update scenarios, I'll say this...I had the pixel 5 and swapped to a Samsung note 20 ultra which I used until getting the p7p. If I'm honest, the note has a way more premium feel to it, holding it, looking at it, using it blows the p7p out of the water. I've been swapping back and forth between the 2 and even at 3 cycles old the Samsung holds it's own.