When watching movies or playing games, the colour and brightness changes. It looks very bland and dead, lifeless.
It looks too bright, dull with weak colour. Sometimes brightness will change higher or lower when using the device.
Auto brightness is disabled of course. Anything I can check to try and see why my screen is acting and appearing so strange?
I'm running stock Oreo 8. Colour calibration is near the top, 12:00.
kanej2006 said:
When watching movies or playing games, the colour and brightness changes. It looks very bland and dead, lifeless.
It looks too bright, dull with weak colour. Sometimes brightness will change higher or lower when using the device.
Auto brightness is disabled of course. Anything I can check to try and see why my screen is acting and appearing so strange?
I'm running stock Oreo 8. Colour calibration is near the top, 12:00.
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Happens to me as well, I noticed when I go outside the screen becomes brighter but more washed out, don't know why though
shae23 said:
Happens to me as well, I noticed when I go outside the screen becomes brighter but more washed out, don't know why though
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It's a very strange issue, unsure if normal or not.
However, as you said, it happens the most when you are outdoors and it's bright, the screen appears to go very bright and colours are washed out.
After playing a game, I can see the brightness changing automatically and when quitting the application, the screen dimmed by itself. Very noticeable, WTF?
I've never seen such an problem with any other phone.
Even had a recent Huawei Honor 7X, no such issue with the screen.
I think Oreo is bugged, like Asphalt 8 plays slower than on nougat, freezes and chrashes my phone, like literally screen flicker and reboots, might just be another bug or something
kanej2006 said:
When watching movies or playing games, the colour and brightness changes. It looks very bland and dead, lifeless.
It looks too bright, dull with weak colour. Sometimes brightness will change higher or lower when using the device.
Auto brightness is disabled of course. Anything I can check to try and see why my screen is acting and appearing so strange?
I'm running stock Oreo 8. Colour calibration is near the top, 12:00.
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guys, thats not an screen issue thats an option on developer menu, search for ''Increase readability under sunlight'' turn off and that will fix the problem have a nice day
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guys, thats not an screen issue thats an option on developer menu, search for ''Increase readability under sunlight'' turn off and that will fix the problem have a nice day
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Thanks for the tip, I've now disabled that option from the ''developer menu'' and will do some testing. I shall report back shortly! After looking through some other forums not only should it prevent the screen from dimming but also increase maximum contrast which is a bonus!
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guys, thats not an screen issue thats an option on developer menu, search for ''Increase readability under sunlight'' turn off and that will fix the problem have a nice day
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Nice
Still the same. Turning ''increase readability'' on/off makes no difference. Brightness still increasing/decreasing on it's own.
Also, when watching videos, colours are weak/washed out and appear too bright.
Probably a software issue? Unfortunately, when previously on Nougat I did not test this as I immediately flashed Oreo the day I received the phone. Oreo bug perhaps.
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Still the same. Turning ''increase readability'' on/off makes no difference. Brightness still increasing/decreasing on it's own.
Also, when watching videos, colours are weak/washed out and appear too bright.
Probably a software issue? Unfortunately, when previously on Nougat I did not test this as I immediately flashed Oreo the day I received the phone. Oreo bug perhaps.
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im on oreo c432 and its not happening to me, try a complete day turning increase readability off, turn it off and restart your phone maybe works
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im on oreo c432 and its not happening to me, try a complete day turning increase readability off, turn it off and restart your phone maybe works
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I will give this a try. As of now, with readability disabled, the black levels/contrast look higher.
However, it is a shame. Unsure if it's a fault or not, but the screen looks pretty good when playing games or browsing through images but when watching videos/media, colours/contrast are washed out and it looks really bad, here is an example:
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My video display on my phone is normal, it's good even better than my wife's ip7s and my bro's samsung s8, they look yellowish compared to my mate9
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I will give this a try. As of now, with readability disabled, the black levels/contrast look higher.
However, it is a shame. Unsure if it's a fault or not, but the screen looks pretty good when playing games or browsing through images but when watching videos/media, colours/contrast are washed out and it looks really bad, here is an example:
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have you tried watching a movie anywhere to see if it isnt a youtube problem ?
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have you tried watching a movie anywhere to see if it isnt a youtube problem ?
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Of course. I have tried XPlayer and MX Player PRO. All movies look dull, dead, lifeless and weak colour...
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Of course. I have tried XPlayer and MX Player PRO. All movies look dull, dead, lifeless and weak colour...
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wow, i tried youtube and netflix and now i see what you mean, i haven't noticed it before it looks like a high contrast image
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wow, i tried youtube and netflix and now i see what you mean, i haven't noticed it before it looks like a high contrast image
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EXACTLY!!! It's a shame because when browsing through images, gaming or even browsing the net, the screen looks fantastic.
However, with movies, colours are washed out and the picture looks like high contrast. Never seen this problem before.
I wish there was a fix.
After doing some basic testing, I found a way to fix the horrible looking picture when watching movies, it does not work with YouTube or Netflix, but with regular video/movie players.
For example, in MXPlayer Pro, In the settings/tools menu, go to decoder and select ''software decoder'' . When selecting HW or HW+ the screen flickers and colours are washed out and contrast/brightness is far too high.
Can others please test this on high quality MKV or MP4 movie files?
Another update, dunno how I forgot to test the difference but boy was I surprised.
Check out some high quality YouTube videos. Watch these videos on the YouTube App followed by the very same videos on YouTube in the internet browser.
For me there is a BIG BIG difference, unsure if I'm the only one but please test this. Video's look $hit on the YouTube app, too bright and dead/colourless, horrible and dull looking.
However, the very same videos seen in YouTube in my Chrome browser look simply stunning. Amazing accurate colours and deep blacks, just how they are supposed to look.
Later in the evening I will try to compare some videos myself on both the YouTube app and in the browser.
Question is, why am I getting these issues? I would of thought YouTube, whether viewed in the App or in the browser would be the same. Is this some software fault??
Please test the above and share your results.
In the YouTube app type pure black and watch the first video. When the phone is upright it looks pure black no problems. But then watch the same video with the phone horizontal and the black totally changes. Do you think the problem you're having could be related to this bug. Huawei should fix this.
I have a different problem. I see some sort of "burn in". For example when im using one app and switch to another one i can still see some parts of first one (menus etc). It's very noticable in dark room at 20% brightness. Since i'm playing CSR2 very actively this Audi logo makes me crazy
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I have a different problem. I see some sort of "burn in". For example when im using one app and switch to another one i can still see some parts of first one (menus etc). It's very noticable in dark room at 20% brightness. Since i'm playing CSR2 very actively this Audi logo makes me crazy
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I also experience screen burn. But it fades away after a while.
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Update: While GalacticNight is still available for older devices, if you have a newer device it probably won't work. But if you have Android 4.4 or higher, my new Color Changer app may work for you and will do everything GalacticNight did (but alas at a higher software level). I am therefore discontinuing work on GalacticNight.
Edited: Now in Google Play.
Galactic Night, now in the 0.99rc2 version, provides red, green or sepia (or blue if you really want!) night modes for rooted OLED Galaxy S2, S3 and Note 1 devices (not tested on Galaxy 7.7 but might work). You can invert the screen colors (so you can browse in white on black, or green on black, or red on black). There is also an Outdoor mode which washes out the colors but might improve legibility outdoors.
I like reading ebooks in green on black when in the dark.
As of my present knowledge, various pre-release versions of this have been tested on:
Galaxy S2: Gingerbread and ICS
Galaxy S3: ICS
Galaxy Note: JB
It should work on ICS on the Note as well, but I don't have any reports. GN works by adjusting the mDNIe profile. If you have some Samsung device I haven't heard of which has a Screen Mode setting in the Display settings that includes Dynamic/Normal/Movie options (and maybe others), there is a chance that this will work for you.
My benchmarking has not shown any statistically significant impact on graphics rendering speed.
Use at your own risk. If a mode screws up the screen display, you should be able to get back to normal by pressing "Standard" or rebooting, but I offer no guarantees.
Several users have asked for customizable settings. These could easily be provided, and could adjust for screen color tint and so on, but I haven't implemented them yet. I might in fact leave those for a Pro version.
You might be curious how the nightmode differs from that in ChainFire3D. ChainFire3D's nightmode works by dropping channels. E.g., in red mode, it simply drops the green and blue channels. This means that things on screen that were in pure green or pure blue get changed to black. Galactic Night uses a different color adjustment which is equivalent to this algorithm: first convert the RGB color on the screen to a luminosity, and then use the luminosity to set the night mode color. Thus, in red mode, pure white will go to maximum brightness red, but red, green and blue will go to different shades of red. This preserves a lot of the legibility.
There is also an odd "No blue" mode which converts RGB images to RG images, so white goes to yellow, blue goes to a dark yellow, etc. I've heard that blue light makes it harder to fall asleep, so it might help with falling asleep if you switch your phone to "No blue" mode for an hour before going to bed, if you can tolerate how ugly it looks.
Here is a photo of GN in action. It is not possible to take a screenshot of it in action, because the color changing is done between framebuffer and display, so the framebuffer that the screenshot accesses will not reflect the color changes.
I've already posted about this in a few device-specific forums, but now it's ready for wider dissemination.
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Let me add that the green mode should nicely help save batteries. Using just the green subpixels should use about 1/3 of the power, and yet maintain a lot of visibility because our eyes are very sensitive to green light.
Users report that on ICS there is a 1/2 second flash of the regular colors when you turn the screen on. In 0.99rc3 I implemented a red-and-black logo overlay that should cover up most of that flash (it doesn't cover up the status bar, alas). I can imagine it would be really annoying to be in the dark and get a flash of white light even for half a second.
Reports would be appreciated.
If the logo annoys, you can turn it off in GN's settings.
Great app. Works well. Having no trouble with the logo for screen on.
I'm not sure how difficult this would be to implement, but it would be useful to have a tasker plugin so that red mode could be activated when you run certain apps or at specific times of day.
Keep up the good work.
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Let me add that the green mode should nicely help save batteries. Using just the green subpixels should use about 1/3 of the power, and yet maintain a lot of visibility because our eyes are very sensitive to green light.
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The description for the app "Filter your screen" specifically says that you should avoid monochromatic filters which are not grayscale, in order to avoid some kind of burn-in, and thus a permanent tint on our (AM)OLED screens. Do you know anything about this?
I'd love to use the red or green filter, but I'm not sure I dare to, at least not for any significant amount of time.
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The description for the app "Filter your screen" specifically says that you should avoid monochromatic filters which are not grayscale, in order to avoid some kind of burn-in, and thus a permanent tint on our (AM)OLED screens. Do you know anything about this?
I'd love to use the red or green filter, but I'm not sure I dare to, at least not for any significant amount of time.
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I must say I haven't thought of that. That's an issue. But it's no more an issue than if you heavily use an app that uses a single color. Or if you heavily use an app that has a single bright display element in one place.
It's going to be more an issue if your background is all white, and then it turns, say, all green, and then the green subpixels burn out faster than the red and blue. But if you use green+invert with that, then you will have a lot fewer green pixels, most of them being black.
Moreover, I assume the issue will be mitigated to some degree if you set low screen intensity, and most of us will do that at night. Just use my ScreenDim app at night and use a combination of the two sliders to set a very low brightness. (Or use ScreenFilter or something else like that.) However, this does mean that we probably don't want to use a monochromatic screen all the time during the day, unless, well, we want to use it all the time and hence the tint will irrelevant.
If the burnin does a uniform tint across the screen (which may not be the case), then we can eventually correct for it with a custom color profile.
Or you can alternate between red/green/blue modes on a regular basis.
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Great app. Works well. Having no trouble with the logo for screen on.
I'm not sure how difficult this would be to implement, but it would be useful to have a tasker plugin so that red mode could be activated when you run certain apps or at specific times of day.
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It would be easy to add Tasker support at the same time as I add launcher shortcuts.
I just posted 0.99rc4. New mode: Mono sepia. The standard sepia mode just changes white to sepia. Mono sepia changes white to sepia, and makes everything monochrome.
I've discovered a great use for the mono sepia and BW modes. The Kindle app screws up subpixel rendering (just as it is screwed up on the Kindle Fire), resulting in colored shadows around letters in some orientations (portrait on my S2, but this may differ). All the single-tone modes (sepia, BW, green, red and blue) will change the subpixel antialiasing to grayscale antialiasing, which to my eyes significantly improves appearance. (Subpixel antialiasing is wonderful--but mainly when done right.)
I just uploaded 1.00.
It's now in Google Play. Free, no ads (other than a link to my other apps). I am planning a pro version that will allow (a) automatic activation on boot (with some sort of safety mechanism in case you put in some bad settings like black on black--maybe if you boot with the device upside down or something like that it won't start on boot?); (b) custom modes.
just read the article on your app, and was wondering what you need to make this work on the Galaxy Nexus if it doesn't already work on it?
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just read the article on your app, and was wondering what you need to make this work on the Galaxy Nexus if it doesn't already work on it?
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As far as I know, the Nexus doesn't support mdnie settings. Does it have display settings with dynamic, standard and movie modes?
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It's now in Google Play. Free, no ads (other than a link to my other apps). I am planning a pro version that will allow (a) automatic activation on boot (with some sort of safety mechanism in case you put in some bad settings like black on black--maybe if you boot with the device upside down or something like that it won't start on boot?); (b) custom modes.
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This app is EXACTLY what I was looking for...except I have a Nexus S 4G
Any way it might get supported? Or is the display tech too different from the GS series?
Great App! i always found the darkes possible darkness too bright for night use.
is this only for stock roms or also AOSP built ones like Cyanogenmod?
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App not working on Samsung Infuse 4g ( SGH-I997 ). It says Unsupported device or not rooted(it's rooted).
Galaxy Note(att) rooted ICS(cm9) "no root or unsupported"
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Thank you !
Works on SGS1?
Doesnt work on sgs 2 running aokp must need stock software
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App not working on Samsung Infuse 4g ( SGH-I997 ). It says Unsupported device or not rooted(it's rooted).
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Same here. Sending in logcat... Rooted on Sprint S3.
Does Not work on SGS 1 Epic 4G with cm9
Hi!
At the beggining - I'm sorry if you won't understand something. English isn't my main language, I still learn.
In some smartphones with AMOLED screen (such as Samsung Galaxy S4) black pixel = turned off pixel.
I've always been irritated because of the fact that our batteries aren't too great, but phone producers still produce their phones with hiper-resolution, which practically we cannot even see.
I have invented something, that later I turned to real app.
I call it Pixel Battery Saver, because it displays some kind of totally black mesh on the screen (you can change its density), so at least half of the pixels (or more) are turned off (so the screen consumes less energy!), while you are still able to read anything on your screen.
If you still don't understand, just take a look at the screenshots.
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I've already created this app.
You may download and test it for free,
but if you really appreciate my work - I would be grateful for every donation (every single dollar would be helpful).
Let me know if you found any annoying bug or misspelling. This is my very first app - I still learn
FAQ:
What do I need this for?
- Imagine this situation - your battery level is really low, but you have to search for something important on the Internet. Making the brightness lower often isn't enough. That's when you would need my app - to turn off some count of pixels.
There are lots of apps that dim the screen...?
- This app works different. It doesn't overlay your screen with transparent image (but there is such option in premium version if you need it too). It overlays your screen with totally black screen, which makes some count of pixels off, to prevent them from consuming battery.
Do I really need AMOLED screen?
- The best results you can get right with AMOLED screen, where black pixel means turned off pixel. However, even in other type screens black pixels are saving some battery, so it's just worth to check.
In battery stats I can see that this app consumes a lot of energy. Why?
- Don't look at the stats, look at the real battery consumption. Probably, Android Battery Stats app "thinks", that this app display an image on the screen all the time, because of what it shows an information about consuming energy. In fact, this app turns OFF the pixels (in AMOLED screens with this function), so it SAVES that energy, not consumes.
When the mesh is on, I am unable to install apps (Install button is disabled). WTH?
- That's because of the Android Security. In premium version of Pixel Battery Saver I added an option to bypass this protection. In this free version you can simply turn off the app (by clicking "Turn off" button in Settings window) before installing any app and then turn on it again.
Density of the mesh that I recommend is "High".
Changelog in post #2.
Download: Google Play
Always use the latest version with fixed bugs and new options.
[CHANGELOG]
v1.3 (coming next month):
- new option to automatically start service at specific battery level
- hidden notification icon
- option to detect package installer to prevent its bug (stops mesh activity when you're installing new app and starts it again when it's done)
- new option to dim the screen (useful at night)
- small fixes
v1.2.1:
- fixed doubled mesh after reboot (black screen)
- fixed unnecessary scrolling to the bottom ad
v1.2:
- quickly show/hide the mesh with notification action
- Ads. Sorry =)
v1.1.1:
- shortcut to the donation page
v1.1:
- new option to automatically start service on boot
- small bugfixes
[TO DO]
- Widget
- Overlay bottom navigation bar too
[KNOWN BUGS]
- I can't install any app (unable to tap Install button)
> This bug is fixed in version 1.3 (added new option to prevent this)
- The bottom navigation bar (with back, home and recent apps buttons) isn't overlayed
> I know about this, I will fix it in the future
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So, the question is - is anyone able to create an app like this?
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There are a couple of issues with the concept as you've outlined it.
1) Turning off 50% of the screen you make small text unreadable. Even in your example the not so tiny temperature values are illegible.
2) While this would definitely conserve power in terms of physically lighting the screen, it might not be by as much as you'd think. The screen has multiple power sucking components. The first is the light producing LED's. Turning half of them off saves half the power. Simple math
. But the GPU that processes the screen imaging still runs at full speed even if the screen is blank. While the LED pixels aren't working, the GPU is still working to render a black image. So turning off half the pixels doesn't reduce the power draw required to run the entire display to 50% in total.
3) The app that overlays the black mesh will require the GPU to work overtime. It's got to render the image that's supposed to be in the screen plus it's got to render the black mesh over the native image. That could potentially use up more energy rendering the black than the black saves by not lighting the pixels.
4) The already built in option is to just turn the screen brightness down 50%. It accomplishes the same goal, requires no additional image rendering, and preserves the original image design without loss.
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There are a couple of issues with the concept as you've outlined it.
1) Turning off 50% of the screen you make small text unreadable. Even in your example the not so tiny temperature values are illegible.
2) While this would definitely conserve power in terms of physically lighting the screen, it might not be by as much as you'd think. The screen has multiple power sucking components. The first is the light producing LED's. Turning half of them off saves half the power. Simple math
. But the GPU that processes the screen imaging still runs at full speed even if the screen is blank. While the LED pixels aren't working, the GPU is still working to render a black image. So turning off half the pixels doesn't reduce the power draw required to run the entire display to 50% in total.
3) The app that overlays the black mesh will require the GPU to work overtime. It's got to render the image that's supposed to be in the screen plus it's got to render the black mesh over the native image. That could potentially use up more energy rendering the black than the black saves by not lighting the pixels.
4) The already built in option is to just turn the screen brightness down 50%. It accomplishes the same goal, requires no additional image rendering, and preserves the original image design without loss.
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1) Why do you think so? As you can see on my image, it doesn't make the text unreadable (if the "mesh" is pixel-by-pixel)
2) Right, but everyone know that black-layout apps are muc better for our battery than colorful or white, right because black screen isn't that "hungry" of power
3) Ok, but there are lots of apps that creates a full-screen black (transparent) overlay to make the screen more "shade" (dim?) to save the power. It works, even thou all the thing you described in #3
4) Oh, right, but when my energy power is really low, I turn the screen brightness to the lowest level, but it still consumes a LOT of energy.
Anyway! This discussion isn't even important, maybe we should just CHECK if this may work, or if not?
But, as I said, I am just asking someone to create a simple app like this.
Thanks anyway for reply.
Really? No one?
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Really? No one?
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it's not worth in my opinion, while rendering half of the screen black would help save some battery, the saving wouldn't be so great, yes the screen is what burns the most battery on android but, its not just having it on, its having the phone out of deep sleep, having the touch sensor activated and registering touches, etc, not to mention it would just kill the great viewing experience that the phone offers.
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it's not worth in my opinion, while rendering half of the screen black would help save some battery, the saving wouldn't be so great, yes the screen is what burns the most battery on android but, its not just having it on, its having the phone out of deep sleep, having the touch sensor activated and registering touches, etc, not to mention it would just kill the great viewing experience that the phone offers.
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Though when we are using our phones it has to render the whole screen anyway, so I think rendering a half of it would be better?
I am not thinking about this app making our screen always on. I just mean to display this mesh when we are using our phones and the battery level is low.
And, of course, it would kill the viewing experience, but when your battery level is 5% and you have to do some important research on the internet - you don't care about the viewing experience.
If you think turning the pixels on is not the thing that consumes the most of the battery, then turn the brightness to the highest level and then to the lowest and see how much it consumes... (changing the brightness doesn't change anything with the touch sensor and other thing you described though)
I thought my idea is really simple to develop for any Android developer and to see if it really works...
I think that if you do some comprehensive tests, you could bring some attention.
Create one image with this pattern, put on your phone and open it with any image viewer, put the bright on max. Let it run for some time.... Measure how much battery was sucked.... Test again with the same image, but without the pattern, do some statistics with the results.
Are you rooted? You could invert screen color or make it grayscale.
That's exactly what I was thinking about. I will do this tomorrow.
I'll post my quick opinion. It really depends on how the phone handles the screen, but my experience is from my old Galaxy S2 with NoLED running over night. I think NoLED program was essentially accomplishing what you are proposing (i.e. rest of screen is "off" or black) and on portion of the screen is on for the LED to hop around. However, even though the screen was black the screen was still draining at a quite high rate (~6%/hr on average). The screen needs to be "off" not just black in order to save more power.
But having stated the above, I am looking forward to your test results to compare and determine if it can save more battery.
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I'll post my quick opinion. It really depends on how the phone handles the screen, but my experience is from my old Galaxy S2 with NoLED running over night. I think NoLED program was essentially accomplishing what you are proposing (i.e. rest of screen is "off" or black) and on portion of the screen is on for the LED to hop around. However, even though the screen was black the screen was still draining at a quite high rate (~6%/hr on average). The screen needs to be "off" not just black in order to save more power.
But having stated the above, I am looking forward to your test results to compare and determine if it can save more battery.
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Thanks for your opinion, but the screen in s2 is way different than on s4. The screen in s2 doesn't turn off the black pixels. The one in s4 does.
II am looking forward to do this test tomorrow
I think this would be like a filter app, such as the found in Play Store.
Exactly. I was talking about it but I forgot the name. I next hour I will do some tests.
Ok, thread can be closed - I've created this app by my own. I mean, I used many of tutorials and examples, and finally got it. Thanks anyway.
Could you share your findings?
This would be pretty hard, as I have read dozens of sites and forums to understand everything. There wasn't any quick or simple solution.
Did it work and save as much battery as you expected?
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Did it work and save as much battery as you expected?
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I still do not know, I have to test it multiple times to be sure.
Ok. I think it really works, but I'm still not sure. Give me few days to share the alpha version of my app (I just want to add some extra functions).
By the way, does anyone know where should I look for a list of phones with screens like in S4? I mean where the black pixel means it's off.
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Ok. I think it really works, but I'm still not sure. Give me few days to share the alpha version of my app (I just want to add some extra functions).
By the way, does anyone know where should I look for a list of phones with screens like in S4? I mean where the black pixel means it's off.
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Here's a list of some recent ones. Pretty sure the Moto X has one as well.
http://www.oled-info.com/oled_devices/mobile_phones
Yesterday i noticed something strange in my OP7p and i'd like you to check whether something like this occurs in your phones. Issue, which i will describe occurs only when i have 90hz refresh rate set and the low brightness of the screen with the auto adjustment of brightness turned off. The easiest way to see that is on youtube application with a dark theme. When we start a movie on the full screen (horizontally) and watch it for a few seconds, then go back to the vertical position, there is something like weak but visible blink of the screen, or a minimal colours change. It can be noticed in other apps, e.g. on facebook. Seems to me this is a software problem, beacause the same phenomenon doesn't exists when we set 60hz refresh. I would be very grateful if you can check it on your phones and give me a know about it.
I don't usually start videos in full screen mode and never noticed it but yeah definitely does a white flicker.
This is the highest brightness I could get it to do the flicker at.
Thank you for an answer. Personally i am able to see this flicker on a little bit higher screen brightness, but maybe its because im sitting in a dark room now. I was worried cause sometimes i see it during the normal usage of phone, and if only my OnePlus would be affected by this flickering i could still return it or exchange for a new one. It isnt very disturbing however interesting is whats cause of it.
kamkoz96 said:
Yesterday i noticed something strange in my OP7p and i'd like you to check whether something like this occurs in your phones. Issue, which i will describe occurs only when i have 90hz refresh rate set and the low brightness of the screen with the auto adjustment of brightness turned off. The easiest way to see that is on youtube application with a dark theme. When we start a movie on the full screen (horizontally) and watch it for a few seconds, then go back to the vertical position, there is something like weak but visible blink of the screen, or a minimal colours change. It can be noticed in other apps, e.g. on facebook. Seems to me this is a software problem, beacause the same phenomenon doesn't exists when we set 60hz refresh. I would be very grateful if you can check it on your phones and give me a know about it.
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this is usual for EVERY Oled screen and is called jelly effect...
You might want to try the DC dimming option in Settings->Utilities->OnePlus Laboratory.
matze19999 said:
this is usual for EVERY Oled screen and is called jelly effect...
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From what i know jelly effect appears while we scrolling some content and propably that's not what i meant in my first post. Also flicker in my case is only visible on 90hz refresh rate.
I have galaxy s7e as a second phone and that effect doesn't happen there.
vishal3967 said:
You might want to try the DC dimming option in Settings->Utilities->OnePlus Laboratory.
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Thanks but i tried this option and it didn't do the job well.
I have read articles that said using DC brightness on OLED/AMOLED screens can effect colors, particularly at low brightness. How are people finding it? I dont really care if it makes colours "less accurate" as long as they dont look weird
Looks fine to me. Barely can tell the difference.
Working well as described, couldn't tell the difference.
Can someone try to port it to OnePlus 3 / 3t?..
anz563 said:
Can someone try to port it to OnePlus 3 / 3t?..
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What makes you think the 3 / 3T screen is capable of DC dimming? Can every AMOLED screen support it?
First off, I don't notice any flickering when the screen brightness is low so maybe DC dimming isn't for me. I'm sure someone with a fancy color monitor device will probably post a technical breakdown of how it affects the screen, but I don't see any difference except in one scenario.
In bed I tend to set the brightness settings on the lowest and then turn on nightmode to dim the screen even further. If you have small white text with a black background such as the settings menu or Youtube in dark mode, some of the text fades into the blackness and is unreadable. Images with dark colors or areas will look weird because you won't be able to distinguish them apart.
I tried to take pictures to show a comparison, but the screen is so dim that it doesn't work.
OLED displays gets burn-in almost exclusively in places where there are a lot of elements that stay completely white all the time. Most notoriously, status bar and navbar. For some people who text a lot, I have seen burn-in for the call and video call buttons, as well as individual keyboard letters.
My question is, is there an app, or a theming engine to be precise, that would allow the user to set a time interval, during which those high persistence elements of the picture could be dimmed over time? For example, user unlocks the phone and starts typing a message - navbar, statusbar, keyboard letters are all 100% white. They remain white, then after 60 seconds they start to dim, and after 120 seconds they are at 30% brightness. So when you're having long texting sessions, keys would be dim enough so you can make them out, but since they are not leaving your muscle memory you can type just as well as if it was at 100% brightness - but you save a lot of energy and thus substantially reduce the potential for burn-in. And if you're outdoors and can't make out what the time is after those 180 seconds, you gently pull down the notification bar and it resets to 100%. Something like that.
I can't be the first person to think of this. Moreover, I think AOSP devs realized this at around version 9 and dropped the overall brightness of the status/navbar to 80%, but it remains like that the whole time. What I am proposing would be infinitely more efficient. Anyone here knows something that's able to do that?
Avoid use in direct sunlight. Seconds not minutes if you do. Use manual brightness control and keep below 50%. Typically I comfortable use 30-40% indoors. Excessive brightness prematurely kills AMOLED displays needlessly. Excessive heat with the display on ie again direct sunlight should be avoided.
Use dark mode. The red pixels are longest live, blue the shortest; heavy blue or white usage will degrade the display the fastest.
Use icon packs and layouts that support pixel conservation. Rotate widgets and icons periodically.
This heavily use N10+ has over 8k hours on its display. There is no detectable fading, failed pixels, color inaccuracies, nothing; it remains perfect. It's a mirror image next to my new N10+ with less then 50 hours on it.
AMOLED displays can be very long lived. Everything on this homepage gets rotated slightly from time to time, even the page number icons ie 3 instead of 2.
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johnnyboy041 said:
OLED displays gets burn-in almost exclusively in places where there are a lot of elements that stay completely white all the time. Most notoriously, status bar and navbar. For some people who text a lot, I have seen burn-in for the call and video call buttons, as well as individual keyboard letters.
My question is, is there an app, or a theming engine to be precise, that would allow the user to set a time interval, during which those high persistence elements of the picture could be dimmed over time? For example, user unlocks the phone and starts typing a message - navbar, statusbar, keyboard letters are all 100% white. They remain white, then after 60 seconds they start to dim, and after 120 seconds they are at 30% brightness. So when you're having long texting sessions, keys would be dim enough so you can make them out, but since they are not leaving your muscle memory you can type just as well as if it was at 100% brightness - but you save a lot of energy and thus substantially reduce the potential for burn-in. And if you're outdoors and can't make out what the time is after those 180 seconds, you gently pull down the notification bar and it resets to 100%. Something like that.
I can't be the first person to think of this. Moreover, I think AOSP devs realized this at around version 9 and dropped the overall brightness of the status/navbar to 80%, but it remains like that the whole time. What I am proposing would be infinitely more efficient. Anyone here knows something that's able to do tha
blackhawk said:
Avoid use in direct sunlight. Seconds not minutes if you do. Use manual brightness control and keep below 50%. Typically I comfortable use 30-40% indoors. Excessive brightness prematurely kills AMOLED displays needlessly. Excessive heat with the display on ie again direct sunlight should be avoided.
Use dark mode. The red pixels are longest live, blue the shortest; heavy blue or white usage will degrade the display the fastest.
Use icon packs and layouts that support pixel conservation. Rotate widgets and icons periodically.
This heavily use N10+ has over 8k hours on its display. There is no detectable fading, failed pixels, color inaccuracies, nothing; it remains perfect. It's a mirror image next to my new N10+ with less then 50 hours on it.
AMOLED displays can be very long lived. Everything on this homepage gets rotated slightly from time to time, even the page number icons ie 3 instead of 2.
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johnnyboy041 said:
OLED displays gets burn-in almost exclusively in places where there are a lot of elements that stay completely white all the time. Most notoriously, status bar and navbar. For some people who text a lot, I have seen burn-in for the call and video call buttons, as well as individual keyboard letters.
My question is, is there an app, or a theming engine to be precise, that would allow the user to set a time interval, during which those high persistence elements of the picture could be dimmed over time? For example, user unlocks the phone and starts typing a message - navbar, statusbar, keyboard letters are all 100% white. They remain white, then after 60 seconds they start to dim, and after 120 seconds they are at 30% brightness. So when you're having long texting sessions, keys would be dim enough so you can make them out, but since they are not leaving your muscle memory you can type just as well as if it was at 100% brightness - but you save a lot of energy and thus substantially reduce the potential for burn-in. And if you're outdoors and can't make out what the time is after those 180 seconds, you gently pull down the notification bar and it resets to 100%. Something like that.
I can't be the first person to think of this. Moreover, I think AOSP devs realized this at around version 9 and dropped the overall brightness of the status/navbar to 80%, but it remains like that the whole time. What I am proposing would be infinitely more efficient. Anyone here knows something that's able to do that?
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I think you could look into immersive mode, It has many different names Another option talk in developer forums fr your phone , otherwise its hidden somwhere in your settings
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Galaxy store>Good Lock family of apps>Quickstar
Is there a way to prevent burn in when using the phone in a bright environment? My job requires a bright environment.
Fytdyh said:
Is there a way to prevent burn in when using the phone in a bright environment? My job requires a bright environment.
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No other than the mods I already mentioned. AMOLEDs have a finite lifespan that's proportionately shorter or longer dependant on brightness level. The brightest stars burn the fastest...
All you can do in that case is use at minimum needed viewing brightness and try to use in shaded areas.
Maybe use a work phone so you don't burn up your personal phone.
I am under the impression that none of you even read what I asked in full. I asked a very precise question regarding a particular way to mitigate burn in, nothing on HOW to to mitigate it, as I hinted in the name of this thread.
1. "Avoid use in direct sunlight." Excuse me? Phones are meant to be used outdoors, and they have been since the birth of the idea of a mobile phone.
2. I don't have a Samsung phone. What I meant was something more universal, like a Magisk module, or a root theme engine.
3. With due respect sir, everything you mentioned is more of a paranoid hassle than an automated instant-fix. What I proposed, on the other hand, is.
johnnyboy041 said:
I am under the impression that none of you even read what I asked in full. I asked a very precise question regarding a particular way to mitigate burn in, nothing on HOW to to mitigate it, as I hinted in the name of this thread.
1. "Avoid use in direct sunlight." Excuse me? Phones are meant to be used outdoors, and they have been since the birth of the idea of a mobile phone.
2. I don't have a Samsung phone. What I meant was something more universal, like a Magisk module, or a root theme engine.
3. With due respect sir, everything you mentioned is more of a paranoid hassle than an automated instant-fix. What I proposed, on the other hand, is.
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Welcome to the planet. The more you run it in direct sunlight the higher the risks including outright failure. That sound better?
This isn't a backlight LCD* or a LED display. OLEDs are less robust than LEDs.
Due respect my mass... prudence isn't paranoia.
8+k hours here and no detectable damage of any kind.
* direct sunlight can fry LCDs too.
blackhawk said:
Welcome to the planet. The more you run it in direct sunlight the higher the risks including outright failure. That sound better?
This isn't a backlight LCD* or a LED display. OLEDs are less robust than LEDs.
Due respect my mass... prudence isn't paranoia.
8+k hours here and no detectable damage of any kind.
* direct sunlight can fry LCDs too.
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Dude, nobody sets their phones to sunbathe for no reason. If the situation requires me, I'm using it the open sun. That hasn't damaged any OLED screen I used in the past 10 years. You ain't gonna convince anyone to rearrange widgets every week giving a meteor strike argument, especially with that attitude. Now please, are we over useless internet forum fights? I'm not negating any technical point you made, and what you did is certainly a way to deal with the issue, but it is objectively not practical for 99% of users.