How is the DC dimming? Does it make the screen look noticely worse? - OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers

I have read articles that said using DC brightness on OLED/AMOLED screens can effect colors, particularly at low brightness. How are people finding it? I dont really care if it makes colours "less accurate" as long as they dont look weird

Looks fine to me. Barely can tell the difference.

Working well as described, couldn't tell the difference.

Can someone try to port it to OnePlus 3 / 3t?..

anz563 said:
Can someone try to port it to OnePlus 3 / 3t?..
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What makes you think the 3 / 3T screen is capable of DC dimming? Can every AMOLED screen support it?

First off, I don't notice any flickering when the screen brightness is low so maybe DC dimming isn't for me. I'm sure someone with a fancy color monitor device will probably post a technical breakdown of how it affects the screen, but I don't see any difference except in one scenario.
In bed I tend to set the brightness settings on the lowest and then turn on nightmode to dim the screen even further. If you have small white text with a black background such as the settings menu or Youtube in dark mode, some of the text fades into the blackness and is unreadable. Images with dark colors or areas will look weird because you won't be able to distinguish them apart.
I tried to take pictures to show a comparison, but the screen is so dim that it doesn't work.

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Brightness lower limit?

I was trying to lower the brightness very low to test how it would affect battery drain and it seems that the phone won't let 3rd party apps lower the brightness lower than what you can set it to, in the phone's settings. I tried an app called timerrific that lets you schedule various settings changes, but the phone seems to be overriding it. When I set the brightness to go down to 15% via the app, it does go very dim, but then immediately bounces back up to lowest level the phone's settings let's you set it at. Also, I had auto brightness off and the power saving mode off.
Has anyone been able to get the phone to go to very low brightness?
Thats a good question and would like the answer too... to me, the lowest brightness which must still HOG the battery as sometimes it seems to drain very fast with usage (and I have it on the lowest setting)... seems overly bright. I would without a doubt use it at a lower brightness to conserve energy depending on what I was doing at the time.
hey maybe its just the screen that makes it look bright
labbu63 said:
hey maybe its just the screen that makes it look bright
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Not sure what you mean? For example, if I set the brightness to go down to 5% through the app Timeriffic, the screen will dim down to where I can barely see anything, but then it immediately raises back up to the lowest setting you can set in the phone's normal settings, which seems to me to be about 25-30%.
Yep
labbu63 said:
hey maybe its just the screen that makes it look bright
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This is actually correct, the screen is what makes the "Automatic" brightness setting on the SGS phones look brighter than their LCD brethren. As we all know, currently all AMOLED displays use some kind of Pentile Matrix. All HTC devices (The N1 included) currently use RG:BG Pentile Matrix.
Do a google search on: "RGBG Pentile" and Samsung's site details it.
The SAMOLED display Samsung has made uses a new Pentile Matrix called RGBW:
Do a google search on: "nouvoyance" and it's the first site (sorry for the odd instructions, won't let new users post links )
Using the new RGBW, a white subpixel is introduced on top of the standard RGB stripe. From my reading, this allows the screen to achieve the same resolution to the eye with 33% less subpixels and is a brighter display in the process.
Asori said:
This is actually correct, the screen is what makes the "Automatic" brightness setting on the SGS phones look brighter than their LCD brethren. As we all know, currently all AMOLED displays use some kind of Pentile Matrix. All HTC devices (The N1 included) currently use RG:BG Pentile Matrix.
Do a google search on: "RGBG Pentile" and Samsung's site details it.
The SAMOLED display Samsung has made uses a new Pentile Matrix called RGBW:
Do a google search on: "nouvoyance" and it's the first site (sorry for the odd instructions, won't let new users post links )
Using the new RGBW, a white subpixel is introduced on top of the standard RGB stripe. From my reading, this allows the screen to achieve the same resolution to the eye with 33% less subpixels and is a brighter display in the process.
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Good explanation, but are saying that no you can't dim it to low levels because it makes it look brighter than it is? If so, I don't buy it. I see it being dimmed to a low level. It just doesn't stay there.
Aldiko reader can get the screen even more dim
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Also since there is less air gap in the new display, it is brighter.
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This is just me speculating, but I'm thinking maybe the brightness setting is universal to android devices, except that it's calibrated to normal lcd. So the same voltage(or however they regulate the display brightness) on an LCD will look brighter on the Super AMOLED. For me, the dim setting on the auto-brightness seems too bright.
One thing I've noticed is I can take the brightness down to its lowest setting and it still seems bright..however on almost every phone I've used its like this.
The weird thing is on the Captivate I can open the browser, men then scroll down to settings and it has a brightness toggle there that takes it lower.
nbohmer said:
One thing I've noticed is I can take the brightness down to its lowest setting and it still seems bright..however on almost every phone I've used its like this.
The weird thing is on the Captivate I can open the browser, men then scroll down to settings and it has a brightness toggle there that takes it lower.
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Yeah that does take it down lower than the home screen by a small amount. I put the browser brightness on the lowest setting and the global brightness on the lowest. Both auto brightness and power save are off. When I switch from the browser to the home screen, it brightens up a touch. So, it does go lower, but not all that much though, and it's only for the browser.
pjs2004 said:
Good explanation, but are saying that no you can't dim it to low levels because it makes it look brighter than it is? If so, I don't buy it. I see it being dimmed to a low level. It just doesn't stay there.
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You can totally dim it more. In doing so, it will use even less power than an LCD screen at the same brightness setting.
Asori said:
You can totally dim it more. In doing so, it will use even less power than an LCD screen at the same brightness setting.
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Yeah, that's what I thought was cool about this type of screen, but I still don't know how to to dim it below the the lowest setting in the phone's control panel (which isn't very low). 3rd party apps I've tried don't really work, or they work, but the phone immediately raises it back up. Are you saying you've dimmed it down to where you can barley see the screen, like 5-10 percent? That's what I'm looking for confirmation on. If so, what app did you use?
pjs2004 said:
Yeah, that's what I thought was cool about this type of screen, but I still don't know how to to dim it below the the lowest setting in the phone's control panel (which isn't very low). 3rd party apps I've tried don't really work, or they work, but the phone immediately raises it back up. Are you saying you've dimmed it down to where you can barley see the screen, like 5-10 percent? That's what I'm looking for confirmation on. If so, what app did you use?
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I have used this app and seems to be pretty good, makes the brightness lower than system brightness.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-curvefish-widgets-brightnesslevel-jDiB.aspx
i use brightness level too but the brightness goes back to the highest level when you plug the phone in and you cant use the presets on the widget anymore
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I have used this app and seems to be pretty good, makes the brightness lower than system brightness.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-curvefish-widgets-brightnesslevel-jDiB.aspx
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I tried this app, and while it's a good app, it still doesn't make the screen go super dim. It looks to me like the lowest level (0%) is the same as lowest setting from the control panel. Zero percent should really be totally black.
Screen Filter
Here is your 100% working solution.
It doesn't work with the bright level, it applies a shade/filter to the screen. No matter what app you're using.
Set the bright to the lowest with your default system settings, because if you use a third party that goes below normal, with some apps like explorer, it set it to minimum allowed be system or whatever you set and then you will notice a setp up, shaded but a change.
I'm using it weeks ago and I found it's the best choice to suft the web at night. Also you can turn off softkeys lights
http://www.appbrain.com/app/screen-filter/com.haxor
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Display is slightly blinking in specific conditions

Yesterday i noticed something strange in my OP7p and i'd like you to check whether something like this occurs in your phones. Issue, which i will describe occurs only when i have 90hz refresh rate set and the low brightness of the screen with the auto adjustment of brightness turned off. The easiest way to see that is on youtube application with a dark theme. When we start a movie on the full screen (horizontally) and watch it for a few seconds, then go back to the vertical position, there is something like weak but visible blink of the screen, or a minimal colours change. It can be noticed in other apps, e.g. on facebook. Seems to me this is a software problem, beacause the same phenomenon doesn't exists when we set 60hz refresh. I would be very grateful if you can check it on your phones and give me a know about it.
I don't usually start videos in full screen mode and never noticed it but yeah definitely does a white flicker.
This is the highest brightness I could get it to do the flicker at.
Thank you for an answer. Personally i am able to see this flicker on a little bit higher screen brightness, but maybe its because im sitting in a dark room now. I was worried cause sometimes i see it during the normal usage of phone, and if only my OnePlus would be affected by this flickering i could still return it or exchange for a new one. It isnt very disturbing however interesting is whats cause of it.
kamkoz96 said:
Yesterday i noticed something strange in my OP7p and i'd like you to check whether something like this occurs in your phones. Issue, which i will describe occurs only when i have 90hz refresh rate set and the low brightness of the screen with the auto adjustment of brightness turned off. The easiest way to see that is on youtube application with a dark theme. When we start a movie on the full screen (horizontally) and watch it for a few seconds, then go back to the vertical position, there is something like weak but visible blink of the screen, or a minimal colours change. It can be noticed in other apps, e.g. on facebook. Seems to me this is a software problem, beacause the same phenomenon doesn't exists when we set 60hz refresh. I would be very grateful if you can check it on your phones and give me a know about it.
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this is usual for EVERY Oled screen and is called jelly effect...
You might want to try the DC dimming option in Settings->Utilities->OnePlus Laboratory.
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this is usual for EVERY Oled screen and is called jelly effect...
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From what i know jelly effect appears while we scrolling some content and propably that's not what i meant in my first post. Also flicker in my case is only visible on 90hz refresh rate.
I have galaxy s7e as a second phone and that effect doesn't happen there.
vishal3967 said:
You might want to try the DC dimming option in Settings->Utilities->OnePlus Laboratory.
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Thanks but i tried this option and it didn't do the job well.

I have a display issue. Please someone confirm me that is normal or not?

Hey there, I recently bought the OP8. Sadly, my display have an issue.
Get a dark grey image. I used a dark grey image from google image search.
Set brightness at 20-30%, auto brightness off, DC dimming off, screen calibration to natural.
Display the dark grey image, make sure it cover fullscreen.
The issue is, which can be seen more easily inside a dark room:
The under-screen fingerprint sensor is visible as 2 overlapping rectangles
Photo attached ..
Please someone confirm me that is normal or not. Can i continue using the phone? Everything else is great. Just this issue. Should i keep the phone? I Got it from online unofficial , so It's gonna be difficult to claim warranty. Thank you
This is normal. All fingerprint readers for all phones that sits under the display are visible if you just find the extreme colour setting, light setting, angle, sun light or whatever far-fetched, never used setting needed.
sukanto69 said:
Hey there, I recently bought the OP8. Sadly, my display have an issue.
Get a dark grey image. I used a dark grey image from google image search.
Set brightness at 20-30%, auto brightness off, DC dimming off, screen calibration to natural.
Display the dark grey image, make sure it cover fullscreen.
The issue is, which can be seen more easily inside a dark room:
The under-screen fingerprint sensor is visible as 2 overlapping rectangles
Photo attached ..
Please someone confirm me that is normal or not. Can i continue using the phone? Everything else is great. Just this issue. Should i keep the phone? I Got it from online unofficial , so It's gonna be difficult to claim warranty. Thank you
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This is normal, the rectangular portion will be translicent so that the reader behind the screen can register your finger print. for the reader to see your screen it needs that window.
Congratulations you have a FingerPrint reader.

Display and Instagram issues

Hello to everyone, new user of the Xperia 5ii and I have two problems
1)Has anyone observed a slightly change in the colour of the screen between 60 and 120hz? It's very obvious if you have dark mode and sit in a dark room. When you toggle the selection on and off, you can easily see it
2)I was trying to upload an Instagram story and the quality drops significantly. You literally can distinguish pixels. It's only on Instagram, on Facebook there was no problem. Also I tried to upload the photos from another device, and the same problem exists.
Any help is most welcome
Antoni-o said:
Hello to everyone, new user of the Xperia 5ii and I have two problems
1)Has anyone observed a slightly change in the colour of the screen between 60 and 120hz? It's very obvious if you have dark mode and sit in a dark room. When you toggle the selection on and off, you can easily see it
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This is true and if being honest, quite expected. It most noticable when the screen brightness is somewhere 5-20%. You can clearly see it when toggling the 60 or 120hz. The panel itself is great, many oled defects are gone or very minimal. This green tint issue is quite common on other 120hz panels too (mostly Samsung made). That might also be one reason why the new Iphone 12 phones don't have 120hz, too much quality problems.
So yes, there is a green tint. But luckily it is very minor and only on certain screen brightness. Haven't noticed it when actually using the phone.
Not sure if this count as a defect to get a replacement (the replacement would probably have the same issue).
Attached few photos I took.
I have the same issue in low-brightness and 120Hz activated

Question Oled screen bug?

So there's one thing I'm not understanding and I think it's a software bug. We all know that what makes an oled screen special is its capability to turn off pixels to represent the black color... so here's the problem.
I noticed that in a certain range of brightness level (around 20% and 35%) the display "turns" into an LCD display because is no longer able to turn off pixels to represent the black color.
I'm gonna attach 3 I took with my brother's smartphone, so about it:
I used a black photo (a completely black one) on my smartphone to show it.
First photo: I was using the brightness level the lower possible. Everything seems fine.
Second photo: You can see the problem, the black is no longer black anymore. It happens when the brightness level is around 20% and
35% (sorta).
Third photo: The brightness is at its maximum possible point and you can see the black parts returned off (it looks gloomy but it's because of the camera).
I have the same, "oreo colorizer" there is a program that forcibly changes the color range to dci p3 , it solves the problem but I don't like the colors when it is active

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