I'm waiting for my phone to be delivered, and am assuming it will be on Nougat and will upgrade to Oreo when it arrives. Should I factory reset it after the upgrade, or will it be good to go? Can't wait for it to arrive, snowed in at the moment in Ireland!
Anyone? Is there any benefit in doing a factory reset?
I would recommend a factory reset after updating to Oreo can't hurt if there is nothing to lose on the phone.
Just a plain old factory reset then, no wiping cache or anything else?
I'd do a full wipe if you have to lose. When I got mine first I updated through ota, full wipe with Oreo then started to add accounts and apps. Don't think you have to but thought it would be best for to start fresh with Oreo
Misinformation galore!.
You don't need to factory reset after updating unless you experience problems. The updates are approved to not knacker the device.
shivadow said:
Misinformation galore!.
You don't need to factory reset after updating unless you experience problems. The updates are approved to not knacker the device.
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I actually didn't bother, thought that as it was just out of the box, bit pointless to wipe it.
I agree only wiped as read about issues people had with wakelocks and had nothing to lose as it was just out the box. You are right not really required until you have issues.
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So a little bit of backstory to explain my question: I bought a brand new Nokia 8 this February and it was shipped with Android 8. I updated to Pie, but it pretty much bricked my device. I RMA'd it, and they exchanged it with another phone which I received a few days ago and again had Android 8 installed. However, since automatic updates was enabled, it has already started updating to Android 9. Currently, the update menu shows the following message:
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Installation will automatically resume when the device is idle.
I have since disabled autoupdates by using the developer menu, but the message is still there. Now I'm kinda wary about updating to Android 9 again considering that it already bricked my device before, and besides I feel like Android 8 worked better for this phone, so I'd like to prevent this update.
So here's my question: Can I cancel this update by doing a factory reset through the Android menu (not recovery)? And if it is possible, is there any risk of bricking the device?
There's nothing I want to save on the phone since it's pretty much brand new, so resetting it don't bother me.
Thanks in advance!
KissShoto said:
So a little bit of backstory to explain my question: I bought a brand new Nokia 8 this February and it was shipped with Android 8. I updated to Pie, but it pretty much bricked my device. I RMA'd it, and they exchanged it with another phone which I received a few days ago and again had Android 8 installed. However, since automatic updates was enabled, it has already started updating to Android 9. Currently, the update menu shows the following message:
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Installation will automatically resume when the device is idle.
I have since disabled autoupdates by using the developer menu, but the message is still there. Now I'm kinda wary about updating to Android 9 again considering that it already bricked my device before, and besides I feel like Android 8 worked better for this phone, so I'd like to prevent this update.
So here's my question: Can I cancel this update by doing a factory reset through the Android menu (not recovery)? And if it is possible, is there any risk of bricking the device?
There's nothing I want to save on the phone since it's pretty much brand new, so resetting it don't bother me.
Thanks in advance!
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Factory resetting will temporarily remove the notification but it will come back after some time.
It may or may not be possible to block it for good, it depends on if anyone has found a working method for your specific model number. If it is possible on your device, it will probably require at least rooting the device.
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Try a factory reset + clear cache partition.
Droidriven said:
Factory resetting will temporarily remove the notification but it will come back after some time.
It may or may not be possible to block it for good, it depends on if anyone has found a working method for your specific model number. If it is possible on your device, it will probably require at least rooting the device.
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Thanks for answering.
What if I factory reset the phone, then enable developers options and disable auto updates from there? Wouldn't that prevent the phone from downloading the update? And is there a any risk involved with factory resetting the phone while the install is pending? That's my biggest fear at the moment.
I don't want to root the device since it's still under warranty, I don't want to void it if there's a risk of the phone getting bricked again at some point in the future.
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Try a factory reset + clear cache partition.
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Thanks for answering.
I thought about doing that, but I'd rather avoid messing around with the cache. The warranty mentions that the only things covered by it are software wise are updates, so if I go around messing around with things I'm not theoretically supposed to I'm afraid it might void the warranty.
KissShoto said:
Thanks for answering.
What if I factory reset the phone, then enable developers options and disable auto updates from there? Wouldn't that prevent the phone from downloading the update? And is there a any risk involved with factory resetting the phone while the install is pending? That's my biggest fear at the moment.
I don't want to root the device since it's still under warranty, I don't want to void it if there's a risk of the phone getting bricked again at some point in the future.
Thanks for answering.
I thought about doing that, but I'd rather avoid messing around with the cache. The warranty mentions that the only things covered by it are software updates, so I go around messing around with things I'm not theoretically supposed to I'm afraid it might void the warranty.
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If it is already downloaded and pending install, that means it has been downloaded and is being held in cache until you accept and start the process. You "might" be able to delete it from cache somehow and stop the process, possibly a factory reset from within system settings and then disabling update checks could work. It is worth trying.
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If it is already downloaded and pending install, that means it has been downloaded and is being held in cache until you accept and start the process. You "might" be able to delete it from cache somehow and stop the process, possibly a factory reset from within system settings and then disabling update checks could work. It is worth trying.
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The actual message that's displayed on the update screen is this:
Installation will automatically resume when the device is idle.
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So the installation might already have started, I'm not sure. Would it still be safe to attempt a factory reset in these conditions? My biggest fear is that it might brick the device.
KissShoto said:
The actual message that's displayed on the update screen is this:
So the installation might already have started, I'm not sure. Would it still be safe to attempt a factory reset in these conditions? My biggest fear is that it might brick the device.
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It may have started the process but it can't actually flash anything until the device is rebooted. I would still try the factory reset, if it doesn't work then you haven't lost anything as long as you backup your personal data and files before you reset. You can restore your data after the reset.
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It may have started the process but it can't actually flash anything until the device is rebooted. I would still try the factory reset, if it doesn't work then you haven't lost anything as long as you backup your personal data and files before you reset. You can restore your data after the reset.
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So it's 100% safe then? There's no risk of bricking the device by factory reseting it even though the update process has supposedly already started?
I'm sorry for being so paranoid, but I'm not very familiar with Android and considering the terms of the warranty, I reaaaaally don't want to screw anything up.
KissShoto said:
So it's 100% safe then? There's no risk of bricking the device by factory reseting it even though the update process has supposedly already started?
I'm sorry for being so paranoid, but I'm not very familiar with Android and considering the terms of the warranty, I reaaaaally don't want to screw anything up.
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If the initialization of the update was only implemented at the system level, factory reset should wipe it. If it has initiated anything at the kernel/hardware level, resetting "might" cause issues.
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Droidriven said:
If the initialization of the update was only implemented at the system level, factory reset should wipe it. If it has initiated anything at the kernel/hardware level, resetting "might" cause issues.
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Is there any way to know if it has done anything of the kind by any chance? And what sort of of issues could potentially arise?
By the way thanks for taking the time to answer my questions, I greatly appreciate it.
KissShoto said:
Is there any way to know if it has done anything of the kind by any chance? And what sort of of issues could potentially arise?
By the way thanks for taking the time to answer my questions, I greatly appreciate it.
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Another safe way to get rid of it is to just reflash the exact same firmware that you have(your current version, not the updated version). Flashing your current stock firmware via PC will reset everything exactly as it is supposed to be like before you triggered the update. Then you can try blocking the update before it happens this time.
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KissShoto said:
So a little bit of backstory to explain my question: I bought a brand new Nokia 8 this February and it was shipped with Android 8. I updated to Pie, but it pretty much bricked my device. I RMA'd it, and they exchanged it with another phone which I received a few days ago and again had Android 8 installed. However, since automatic updates was enabled, it has already started updating to Android 9. Currently, the update menu shows the following message:
Code:
Installation will automatically resume when the device is idle.
I have since disabled autoupdates by using the developer menu, but the message is still there. Now I'm kinda wary about updating to Android 9 again considering that it already bricked my device before, and besides I feel like Android 8 worked better for this phone, so I'd like to prevent this update.
So here's my question: Can I cancel this update by doing a factory reset through the Android menu (not recovery)? And if it is possible, is there any risk of bricking the device?
There's nothing I want to save on the phone since it's pretty much brand new, so resetting it don't bother me.
Thanks in advance!
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Hello! Yes, you can do a factory reset and get the Oreo back if you have updated to Pie.
https://www.techjunkie.com/perform-factory-reset-android-oreo/
esparkinfo said:
Hello! Yes, you can do a factory reset and get the Oreo back if you have updated to Pie.
https://www.techjunkie.com/perform-factory-reset-android-oreo/
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Absolutely not, you can not got back to Oreo from Pie by performing a factory reset. That is not how factory reset works. Factory reset wipes the data partition and user settings, it does not do anything to the system partition at all. It especially does not "replace" the system with another system, it does not even "flash" anything, it only wipes.
Factory reset for android is nothing like the "restore to factory defaults" option that PC's have. They do not do the same thing. One "wipes" anything that was not factory installed to return to factory settings and the other formats and then "flashes" or "restores" a complete copy of the factory installed software to return to the original factory state. One wipes anything that doesn't belong and the other just replaces "everything", leaving nothing behind that was there before the replacement was applied.
I hope I made that make sense.
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Droidriven said:
Absolutely not, you can not got back to Oreo from Pie by performing a factory reset. That is not how factory reset works. Factory reset wipes the data partition and user settings, it does not do anything to the system partition at all. It especially does not "replace" the system with another system, it does not even "flash" anything, it only wipes.
Factory reset for android is nothing like the "restore to factory defaults" option that PC's have. They do not do the same thing. One "wipes" anything that was not factory installed to return to factory settings and the other formats and then "flashes" or "restores" a complete copy of the factory installed software to return to the original factory state. One wipes anything that doesn't belong and the other just replaces "everything", leaving nothing behind that was there before the replacement was applied.
I hope I made that make sense.
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Thanks for correcting my myth. I understood what exactly factory reset is and which can't be the solution of going back to Oreo from Pie. Then what would be the solution? Now I also have the curiosity to know more about preventing Pie updates.
I have an unlocked edition S7 that I had put on verizon but has been wifi only for the last few months. I did a factory reset and now it seems that the IMEI is gone? if I dial *#06# I get "SM-g930u is not supported on showimei", and a third party app says imei unknown. Searching on xda I see discussion of people flashing 3rd party firmware and having this outcome, but that's not my situation. My phone has samsung's stock nougat rom on it, never been rooted, etc. Before I go down the odin rabbit hole is there anything else I can try? it seems hard to believe that a factory reset would cause the same kind of failures that incorrectly flashing the ROM would - factory reset shouldn't touch the ROM. Of course anything can happen...
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I have an unlocked edition S7 that I had put on verizon but has been wifi only for the last few months. I did a factory reset and now it seems that the IMEI is gone? if I dial *#06# I get "SM-g930u is not supported on showimei", and a third party app says imei unknown. Searching on xda I see discussion of people flashing 3rd party firmware and having this outcome, but that's not my situation. My phone has samsung's stock nougat rom on it, never been rooted, etc. Before I go down the odin rabbit hole is there anything else I can try? it seems hard to believe that a factory reset would cause the same kind of failures that incorrectly flashing the ROM would - factory reset shouldn't touch the ROM. Of course anything can happen...
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Update: seems I managed to update to the oreo OTA by mistake so that's probably the cause, not the factory reset.
xeosSD said:
Update: seems I managed to update to the oreo OTA by mistake so that's probably the cause, not the factory reset.
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So is the imei still missing? If so factory reset. Something has gone wrong with ota update
cooltt said:
So is the imei still missing? If so factory reset. Something has gone wrong with ota update
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Yes, it's still missing. I agree, it's the OTA update that must have caused the problem - the factory reset was a red herring.
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Yes, it's still missing. I agree, it's the OTA update that must have caused the problem - the factory reset was a red herring.
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So, I've fixed it, using the suggestion of doing a factory reset. So for future posterity: factory reset, then update to oreo, then factory reset again. Silly that it takes doing two resets to get it to work. Meanwhile some shady character tried to sell me octoplus to fix the problem. Beware!
xeosSD said:
So, I've fixed it, using the suggestion of doing a factory reset. So for future posterity: factory reset, then update to oreo, then factory reset again. Silly that it takes doing two resets to get it to work. Meanwhile some shady character tried to sell me octoplus to fix the problem. Beware!
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Also if you gonna do any mods, back up what you don't want to lose and sign out of Google Account by just deleting it off phone.
You can actually turn off FRP by signing in on a Web browser with Google account and manage device from there.
Hi. i have an issue with my tablet and samsung support wants me to do a factory reset.
My question is then if i flash a firmware from samfrew.com will that remove as much data as a factory reset? or is the data stored in another partition or something similar to that?
A Factory Reset - as it name implies - only restores Android phone to the state it was brought into the market, it does NOT alter phone's Android as flashing a firmware does.
ok? so are you saying that doing the factory reset will rollback all the software updates samsung has rolled out?
Masterkong said:
ok? so are you saying that doing the factory reset will rollback all the software updates samsung has rolled out?
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No, but factory reset, will wipe your internal drive completely. If you have a sd card store all your photos/music etc on sd card.
Only real time, you want to flash stock firmware
etc, is if you eg... want to upgrade your firmware to newer versions, or come back from root.etc.. etc.
Chances are... if you don't know what you doing... you can soft brick your device etc.!
Factory reset, seems like the better options.?
Even though once or twice (in the past) , a factory reset, did not help, where flashing correct, Official firmware version, actually help solved my issue.
So it's your choice.!
Good luck.
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Masterkong said:
Hi. i have an issue with my tablet and samsung support wants me to do a factory reset.
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What's the issue?
Try clearing the system cache; it never hurts, it's easy and can cure erratic behavior.
Old loads will probably benefit with a clean load but for minor issues it's a shotgun overkill approach to troubleshooting.
Techs like because it works and makes things real easy... for them, not you!
Worse the issue can easily reoccur if it was caused by an app, setting, etc. Normally it's best to find the root cause rather than do a factory reset.
Exceptions are old loads and if you did a OS upgrade, in which case a factory reload fully warranted.
A reflash should only be done to upgrade or if the original factory load image has been corrupted (very unlikely).
ok.
i have an samsung galaxy tab S6 and since the upgrade to Android 11/OneUI3.1 international key on any hardware keyboard stopped working. regardless of layout set. Dvorak etc. does work though.
so i think it is a software bug and not some lingering configuration.
support asked me first to clear the cache on samsung keyboard app and when that didnt work they asked me to reset all settings in general management. no bueno there either. next thing they want me to do is facory data reset.
so my thinking is if this is a software bug that won't do any good. but reflashing the tablet with android 10 should work if the faulty software is in android 11, or rather in samsungs OneUI i guess.
does this make sense?
but i digressed. what i wanted to learn was what data is affected in a factory reset compared to a firmware flashing.
Masterkong said:
but i digressed. what i wanted to learn was what data is affected in a factory reset compared to a firmware flashing.
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I basically answered your questionin above post..!
Factory reset will wipe your internal data.!
Where as flashing correct Official Firmware depends...... .!
eg If you do a dirty flash... you keep your data..! Data stays intact, but chances are "anything" (system apps) can get corrupted.?
Resulting eg, in excessive battery drain or an app not working properly.
(In Samsung devices when flashing you use /if you flash... eg Home_CSC etc with the other relevant files)
Otherwise/alternative, if you flash
(.. with the correct Official Firmware using)
eg CSC_XXX file, your device will automatically factory reset..!
Bottom line is, it depends how you flash your device.
example.....
HOME_CSC_xxx -> data will stay intact.
CSC_xxx-> device will factory reset.
Note,
If you knew the basics, about flashing official firmware......
you should have known, above information.?
So i suggest that either you do some reading /research, regarding flashing correct official
Firmware etc or you stand risk of soft
bricking you device..
Good luck
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but i digressed. what i wanted to learn was what data is affected in a factory reset compared to a firmware flashing.
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All critical data photos, contacts, music, vids, etc should already fully backed up, redundantly.
The whole idea of a reload or flash is a fresh start from issues that are present.
OS's are 100% expendable, critical data is not.
It's a little game to see how long you can keep a OS copy running well, but that's all it is.
Erratic behavior could indicate a virus or rootkit.
A benign instability could end up corrupting important data, even backups.
I'm ready to reload -now- should be how you roll; keep your data organized and backed up.
If you have a SD card slot, use it as a data drive. OS/programs/download folder on the internal memory or primary drive, and all critical data on the the data drive. You can nuke the OS but your data is safely (hopefully) still on the data drive, you backup that drive at least twice.
Do I have to perform a factory reset after installing the Android 12 update?
I'm not sure why you're asking that question, but I have updated Android many times (as have most others here), and as far as I know, none of us habitually perform a factory reset after that Android x to Android x+1 update.
A factory update, as far as I know, will wipe out all your existing apps, which a simple Android 11 to Android 12 update should not do.
Of course, sometimes a simple Android 11 to Android 12 update DOES wipe out hundreds of your apps (ask me how I know this); but most of the time it doesn't wipe out anything.
Why do you think you might need a factory reset?
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Why do you think you might need a factory reset?
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I don't want to if it is not necessary. But I have always read that it is recommended: Here is just one them.
Thanks for that link, which says what you said, so it's nice to learn from each other!
Some of you may claim there's no need to factory reset after an Android update and that may be true for you. But at the very least you should clear the system cache for your Android after installing the firmware. This is the quickest and easiest way to clear up any early battery drain bugs and performance issues.
A factory reset and 'start from scratch' approach with new firmware gives you the best opportunity of avoiding the problems that seem to plague users following an update.
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I just bought a S22U from Samsung. Is it good to factory reset my phone when I first get it? Basically just make sure everything is as it should be.
Doesn't matter if new. Should load on first boot like it was just factory reset in it's set up phase.
If you do a major firmware upgrade right at the get go then a factory reset be a good plan.
Enjoy...
No need, in my mind