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galaxy note 5 confirmed to be announcing in 13 august this year and it will sure having a new interface touchwiz skin of course it will be much better than the s6 many features it will add like
1-enhanced pen applications
2-updated camera application
and many things enhanced but with removing deal breaker features like sd card and also a fixed battery
q1- will u upgrade to note 5 all the way without caring about removing features ?
q2-or you will just find xda note 5 roms and flashed and staying in note 3 ?
i will not update simply because the newer phones dont give me more usability than my note 3. i dont need more power since my note 3 runs pretty fluently with costum rom/kernel and the only things thats get better are the cameras buuuuuuut not as much as they have to make me changing my current phone.
for the rom ports. lets wait and see. devs doing a really awesome job so far porting newer touchwiz versions
Even if i would buy a note 5 i would flash an aosp rom ? So i gonna stick another year with my note 3. Android M will come for sure (cm13)
The deciding factor for me at least will be which battery rumor turns out correct. We still don't know if it's a 3000 mAh or a 4100 mAh unit (we ALL hope it's the latter, I guess ).
If it's a 4100 mAh, with the Exynos 7420 inside the thing will be able to last two days and I'll really consider it.
If the 3000 mAh rumor turns out to be true, well, I'll keep my Note 3 till the Nexus 5 (2015) comes out. There was a leaked AnTuTu bench result which downright smashed everything else on the table which suggests the Snapdragon 820 inside.
So, if I have to have a crappy battery life, I prefer it in pure AOSP package.
Wether I upgrade or not depends on three things:
MicroSD slot
CPU/GPU combo
mAh.
If it comes without a MicroSD, everything else is irrelevant. I will not buy it. I have a 128GB MicroSD that's completely full with films and series.
Spare me the mentions of the cloud, try living next to the border for a while, or use public transport in a mobile deadzone for 6 hours a day, see if you still think the cloud is an option.
And anyone who mentions that the MicroSD is slow, and how 'amazingly fast' internal memory is: It's not meant for apps, you muppet.
If it does come with a MicroSD slot, then an Exynos is still a no-go for me. Ditto for any mAh rating below or on par with the 3200mAh of my Note 3.
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There was a leaked AnTuTu bench result which downright smashed everything else on the table which suggests the Snapdragon 820 inside.
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God I hope so... Exynos is pure crap wrapped up in a layer of sheer rubbish. Especially the Mali GPU that comes with it.... I will never buy an Exynos device again.
An S820 would be perfect.
But then there's this.... IF this is true, then anyone buying the Note 5 is an idiot, when the Note 4 is a far superior device that is far less expensive.
ShadowLea said:
Wether I upgrade or not depends on three things:
MicroSD slot
CPU/GPU combo
mAh.
If it comes without a MicroSD, everything else is irrelevant. I will not buy it. I have a 128GB MicroSD that's completely full with films and series.
Spare me the mentions of the cloud, try living next to the border for a while, or use public transport in a mobile deadzone for 6 hours a day, see if you still think the cloud is an option.
And anyone who mentions that the MicroSD is slow, and how 'amazingly fast' internal memory is: It's not meant for apps, you muppet.
If it does come with a MicroSD slot, then an Exynos is still a no-go for me. Ditto for any mAh rating below or on par with the 3200mAh of my Note 3.
God I hope so... Exynos is pure crap wrapped up in a layer of sheer rubbish. Especially the Mali GPU that comes with it.... I will never buy an Exynos device again.
An S820 would be perfect.
But then there's this.... IF this is true, then anyone buying the Note 5 is an idiot, when the Note 4 is a far superior device that is far less expensive.
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My bad, I didn't complete my sentences.
The Note 5 will have Exynos only, the monstrous AnTuTu bench had the name Nexus 5 (2015) in it.
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My bad, I didn't complete my sentences.
The Note 5 will have Exynos only, the monstrous AnTuTu bench had the name Nexus 5 (2015) in it.
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Bummer.
I did spot a report on the S820 being tested, though. Note 6, anyone?
It's bad note 5 doesnt had sd card slot and removeable battery :/
I would rather buy saygus v2.... Then note 5 or s6 edge +...... Samsung going down in mobile....
Its either note 6, or no note user further... Looks like samsung took note users for granted.... Let samsung face it.. Bye bye samsung...
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Aparently they're also releasing a dualSIM Note 5 where the second SIMslot doubles as a MicroSD slot. (According to Sammobile). And that's just for China.
I'll keep saying it, chances are we'll see a Note5+ with a Snapdragon 820 and MicroSD slot for Europe once the S820 becomes available.
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Hi All,
I've had my Idol 3 for about a year and I'm thinking of upgrading in about 6 mos. to a year. After my so-so experience with the Idol 3 (lag and stutter issues were present right up to last week's Marshmallow Update and the build quality is er... Interesting...) the Idol 4 & 4S are off the table. Honestly, I would want something with a Qualcomm 800-series 64-bit SOC (808, 810, 820, etc.) with at least 3GB of RAM and 32GB of internal storage.
I am a fan of the Idol 3's form factor and would be looking to stay in 5.5in-5.7in screen size (Phablet, if you prefer the term) with a 1080p or 1440p screen and I'm curious about switching to AMOLED (I've only had IPS LCD up to this point). I heard some good things, but frankly, I'm not a Samsung Galaxy fan (not to mention Samsungs are a little too expensive for my taste) so the S7 Edge, Note5, and S6 Edge+ aren't really viable options either.
I'm looking for a stock or stock-ish (Cyanogen or OxygenOS for example) build of Android. Rootability, solid development community, and OEM support are a must. It would be great (but not necessary) if there was also an official Android N Update as well. Hardware options should include a good Camera, Fingerprint Scanner, and NFC (optionally, SD card support and/or Front Facing Stereo speakers).
I'm looking to spend about $400-$600 and would like to get a phone 6 mos. to a year old by the time of purchase (gives early bugs time to be worked out). My current selections are Nexus 6P, Oneplus 3, and Moto X Pure Edition.
Thoughts?
First of all welcome everyone, glad to be a part of this forum. I've been lurking XDA developers since long, long time ago back in the PDA era (HTC SPV M5000 anyone?).
I've owned my Galaxy Note 2 for over 2.5 years now and I'm tired of constantly running out of internal storage and the now-supar camera. I'm looking to buy a new smartphone that will check off many boxes, but if I could describe what I need in 2 sentences, it would go something like: a large-screened productivity workhorse with loads of storage and battery, and a good camera. And if it's future-proof, that's even better! I want a device that will last me for at least 2+ years.
Here's what I'm looking for:
- Screen size between 5,5" and 6"
- Internal storage min. 32 GB, needs to have a microSD card slot (unless it has 128G internal storage)
- Decent camera with OIS (camera should handle low-light shooting well)
- Decent UI (unlike the majority of community here, I don't really want to be flashing my phone with new ROMs or any of that, I just want something that works well right out of the box and is user-customizeable through custom home launchers etc)
- Great battery life (this is big for me, I'm often on the road, I listen to tons of podcasts, use mobile data, bluetooth, sometimes wifi tethering etc. I need a phone that can get me through a looong day)
- Fingerprint scanner
- Won't put a huge hole in my wallet (I wouldn't mind paying more for the perfect and FUTURE-PROOF phone but seems like there isn't one that checks off all the boxes. At the same time I'm trying to keep it below $500)
- A physical home button is a plus (and capacitive buttons! Just like in Samsung Galaxy series)
- Screen res. above 1080p is a plus (better for VR and I will probably try some VR in near future)
- Replaceable battery is a plus (plus extended phone cases, yay!)
- OTG support is a plus
- USB-C is a plus
- Dual SIM is definitely a plus
- No curved screens like on the Samsung Edge series
I looked at:
- Huawei Mate 8 - checks off most boxes, nice big battery but crappy, buggy, and not very customizable UI.
- Huawei Mate P9 Plus - very interesting camera-wise, the rest just like above
- LG G5 - also very interesting camera-wise, a bit smaller screen, and a battery that's way too small. Although replacable, I cannot imagine remembering to bring a spare battery with me everywhere.
- Nexus 6P - great reviews and everything, great software BUT I'm mostly based in China where ALL Google services are blocked, so it would probably be a big pain to have to rely on VPN the whole time. Also camera has no OIS, although I did read it's great. Another con: a bit expensive and not easily available in the 128G version
- Samsung Galaxy A9 Pro - the top contender for me so far. The 5000mAh battery is nuts and just what I need. Dual SIM and dedicated microSD slot. Affordable. But the big bummer: sub-par camera. Also a bit low on the DPI if I ever want to use VR. And no notification light (how am I supposed to know if I got notifications?)
- Samsung Galaxy Note 4 - a bit slower than the A9 Pro, smaller battery, but better camera. And the stylus - I could definitely use the stylus for more productivity. Just really not sure about investing in the aging technology. I want to get at least 2 years out of the new smartphone. Also I've read there's some issues with GPS that are hard to solve. Added benefit of possibility of extended battery case.
- Samsung Galaxy Note 5 - nice and seems like a significant upgrade from Note 4 but no card slot, and expensive at 128G. Still only microUSB v2.0 even at the high price point.
- LG V10 and LG G4 - very interesting propositions, reportedly good cameras, very mediocre batteries (and not too good power management it seems) at 3000mAh but both could be extended with a bigger battery. Pretty sure I would be fine with a little bulkier phone with a case that accommodates a 4000-6000mAh battery, but I would still need to keep it as slim as possible, I don't mind if it's not the slimmest phone but I certainly don't want a thick and heavy brick in my pocket. I've also read reviews of some of the extended battery cases and it seems like the battery quality can be a real lottery. The batteries lose their capacity quickly, and I think none of them can be charged using the Quick Charge 2.0
- ZTE Avon 7 - veeery interesting proposition, not the biggest battery but almost everything else knocks me out of my socks. 6GB RAM possible, 128G storage that can be expanded by another 128G (!), capacitive buttons in the higher version, an added benefit of insane speakers. The camera is reportedly not too impressive though, although I'm pretty sure it's better than the one in Galaxy A9 Pro. The main concerns: it's a very fresh phone, the UI is reportedly not very optimized, I can imagine there will be plenty of issues that ZTE will need to fix through software before this phone runs as smoothly as the Galaxy A9 Pro or LG G4 would. And I hate waiting in hopes. Also, being in China, I think it's a bit tricky to purchase the phone in International/European version that has a broader range of bands and doesn't block Google services. I've read through the entire 35 page thread on XDA about this phone and yes, it seems like you can get the Google services to work without problems but who knows what the next ZTE updates will do to that. The way I generally see it is Chinese UI = potential problems.
For the Galaxy A9 Pro or LG G4 I would just go to Hong Kong to buy them and enjoy a phone that doesn't have the Google services blocked. I couldn't find the ZTE Avon 7 anywhere in HK on the internet.
All in all if I had to go to the store tomorrow I'd probably need to choose between a Galaxy A9 Pro, the well-proven LG G4 with a great camera (but a need to buy a good extended battery case and ultimately ending up with a rather bulky phone), the Galaxy Note 4, and the ZTE Avon 7.
Any suggestions, thoughts, recommendations?
I have had a galaxy s5 for 2 years, and noticed over time things have become slow.
With multple apps I had to use some tools to get these to run from the SD card VIA app.
Seems that 16 GB of room isnt that much when you keep adding (some apps take up 2 GB)
I am also enjoy custom rom, recovery, root.
Here is my concerns:
Stats on the S5 look better on paper then the Honor 8:
Higher camera MP, Higher video resolution, faster processor, S5 has a few more senstors.
Gaming on Honor 8:
Heard some comparisons that with the processor that gaming is slow for higher end games.
I know right now games like injustice DC on my S5 are slow at times.
Comparison:
Is it better off waiting for an S7 (if I can get it unlocked bootloader) or going with an Honor 8 ?
I hate going with the main stream. I dont mind Samsung phones, but observations tell me Huawei are really good too.
I will post if I think of any other concerns,
Its not every day I drop 400$ on a phone, just want to make sure I make the right choice.
Thank you
If you like to flash custom roms and Play with you rooted phone all around staying on S5 will be better choice. If you need a great quality camera and you are ok with what you get out of the box then you can go for Honor 8.
Currently I can see that there is not much development for Custom ROM for Honor 8. However we are expecting it to happen soon.
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If you like to flash custom roms and Play with you rooted phone all around staying on S5 will be better choice. If you need a great quality camera and you are ok with what you get out of the box then you can go for Honor 8.
Currently I can see that there is not much development for Custom ROM for Honor 8. However we are expecting it to happen soon.
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My s5 is limited , mostly due to room on phone.
Using Safestrap for recovery.
And the rom is stock with root.
I do see some development, but not much as you have said.
Reason I am looking now is because you can get one on black friday for 100$ off so would set the 64 GB model at 350$
I'll preface this by saying you may want to look at the One Plus 3T. It has a beefier GPU than the Honor 8 and can record 4K video, but no SD card slot. The 64GB version is $440 the 128GB version is $480. The Honor 8's 64GB version is $450. I had a low end Samsung Galaxy Avant I upgraded from with 16GB of storage and used root+Link2SD and a 64GB SD card to store games and apps. I had ~7GB free on the internal storage and 30GB free on the SD card. On my 32GB Honor 8 I have 15GB free internally and about 30GB free on the same SD card. So consider how that may fit with your particular storage needs. Either option is more than $400 but probably still a lot less than even a refurbished S7, so it seems reasonable to me.
The paper stats are misleading.
Pure camera MP doesn't mean a whole lot. I have only seen S7 to Honor 8 camera comparisons, but they were generally considered evenly matched in daylight with the S7 having more saturated colors and the Honor 8 having better detail. In low light the S7 was generally better. And the S7 can record 4K video while the Honor 8 cannot. I haven't seen any direct comparisons between the Honor 8 and S7 with the S5 and don't really want to read S6 reviews to see how it compares to the S5 and then read S7 reviews to see how it compares to the S6 and try to guess from there.
The Honor 8's Kirin 950 4x 2.3 Ghz A72 cores + 4x 1.8 Ghz A53s will be across the board faster than the S5's 4x 2.5 Ghz Krait cores. App loading time, scrolling, etc will all be better on the Honor 8. Like I said I haven't seen any direct comparisons to the S5, but the GPU should be maybe ~30% faster? I mostly play emulators on my phone, so I couldn't tell you how GTA or Need for Speed run on the Honor 8 from first hand experience. I'd consider the OP3T if you want high end games to run super smooth.
The Honor 8's a really nice phone and the Nougat beta that just went out added the App drawer and improved notification shade with EMUI 5.0 which was something a lot of people hated about the phone's software.
I have looked at the One Plus 3 and what turned me off was the no micro SD.
Have also looked at the LeEco Le Pro3 Ecophone, and that is limited to 64 internal and no SD.
The One Plus3T does look nice, but cost wise wonder if the LeEco would be better option at 300$ Black friday.. If I can figure out how to live without external storage.
One of the external storage issues is I use Titanium backup as well as nandroid backups, not sure where I would put those.
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I'll preface this by saying you may want to look at the One Plus 3T. It has a beefier GPU than the Honor 8 and can record 4K video, but no SD card slot. The 64GB version is $440 the 128GB version is $480. The Honor 8's 64GB version is $450. I had a low end Samsung Galaxy Avant I upgraded from with 16GB of storage and used root+Link2SD and a 64GB SD card to store games and apps. I had ~7GB free on the internal storage and 30GB free on the SD card. On my 32GB Honor 8 I have 15GB free internally and about 30GB free on the same SD card. So consider how that may fit with your particular storage needs. Either option is more than $400 but probably still a lot less than even a refurbished S7, so it seems reasonable to me.
The paper stats are misleading.
Pure camera MP doesn't mean a whole lot. I have only seen S7 to Honor 8 camera comparisons, but they were generally considered evenly matched in daylight with the S7 having more saturated colors and the Honor 8 having better detail. In low light the S7 was generally better. And the S7 can record 4K video while the Honor 8 cannot. I haven't seen any direct comparisons between the Honor 8 and S7 with the S5 and don't really want to read S6 reviews to see how it compares to the S5 and then read S7 reviews to see how it compares to the S6 and try to guess from there.
The Honor 8's Kirin 950 4x 2.3 Ghz A72 cores + 4x 1.8 Ghz A53s will be across the board faster than the S5's 4x 2.5 Ghz Krait cores. App loading time, scrolling, etc will all be better on the Honor 8. Like I said I haven't seen any direct comparisons to the S5, but the GPU should be maybe ~30% faster? I mostly play emulators on my phone, so I couldn't tell you how GTA or Need for Speed run on the Honor 8 from first hand experience. I'd consider the OP3T if you want high end games to run super smooth.
The Honor 8's a really nice phone and the Nougat beta that just went out added the App drawer and improved notification shade with EMUI 5.0 which was something a lot of people hated about the phone's software.
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I'm on the same boat. Wanting to go from my S5 exynos version (which doesnt have much development anyway) to Honor 8 (Kirin again do not have much development). What makes me compare both are are both having great camera, IR blaster and SD card and about 5.1 to 5.2" size (my comfort zone). These 4 are absolute necessary features for me. Now, my only question is whether the Camera on Honor 8 is indeed better than S5 in every situation? Are the colors richer... HDR better? Can someone help me decide. I have already placed an order from Amazon (with a friend of mine) for just $260 for the 32 GB variant which I can cancel if if necessary. Please help me decide.
Really no comparison. At $260 its well worth to upgrade from an S5
I was using an S5 also for a few years. This is a great phone, if I have any complaints it's with EMUI 4, but I hear that 5 is light years better. If you are worried about the camera, don't be if you are used to the S5 camera. It's a lot better.
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I was using an S5 also for a few years. This is a great phone, if I have any complaints it's with EMUI 4, but I hear that 5 is light years better. If you are worried about the camera, don't be if you are used to the S5 camera. It's a lot better.
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I ended up buying it on the black friday sales. With some extras.
So far it is very fast.
I do have a few issues with the EMUI 4, such as no app drawer.
So ended up loading a custom launcher ( Nova) and now just getting it all in place and the way I like it is going to take some time.
Thanks for all the suggestions.
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I ended up buying it on the black friday sales. With some extras.
So far it is very fast.
I do have a few issues with the EMUI 4, such as no app drawer.
So ended up loading a custom launcher ( Nova) and now just getting it all in place and the way I like it is going to take some time.
Thanks for all the suggestions.
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I just bought one on Friday as well. Got a 64 GB for $227 on Jet.com. I was really wanting a OnePlus 3 or 3T but $227 for the honor 8 was a steal. I just got it yesterday and haven't opened it yet because I am still deciding if I want to keep it or send it back and hold onto my LG G3 a bit longer.
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I just bought one on Friday as well. Got a 64 GB for $227 on Jet.com. I was really wanting a OnePlus 3 or 3T but $227 for the honor 8 was a steal. I just got it yesterday and haven't opened it yet because I am still deciding if I want to keep it or send it back and hold onto my LG G3 a bit longer.
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I also picked up a 64gb for the same price and it is a steal at that price....I'll give you $227 plus shipping If you decide to send it back.
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eracet said:
I ended up buying it on the black friday sales. With some extras.
So far it is very fast.
I do have a few issues with the EMUI 4, such as no app drawer.
So ended up loading a custom launcher ( Nova) and now just getting it all in place and the way I like it is going to take some time.
Thanks for all the suggestions.
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Been on Sony(ericcson) for almost a decade and after viewing the EMUI 5.0 Nougat video on XDA i made up my decision on BlackFriday sales to go for honor 8 with lots of goodies,, (will get my phone next month as someone else bought it from me) well lets see how it goes.,
Same here, come from S5 with Cyanogenmod
But now i´m very happy with the honor.
good camera, much faster and root is no problem.
So I'm looking for a phone under 400€ (464$; 355£)
The one that I have so far, and like the looks, characteristics of is Huawei P9.
At the moment I have a Samsung Galaxy J5 (2015) so I would really like an upgrade. It has 8GB of space and 1,5 GB of RAM I believe, and it doesn't really suit me. I only have the essential apps that I use on my phone downloaded, and it's already giving me notifications that there's almost no space left. I've had it for ~1,8 years.
What I would be looking for is a nice camera (both back and front), enough space (32 GB would be reaaally nice), a fairly big screen (5' and bigger) and maybe a fingerprint scanner.
If possible, no off-series (like samsung has J,E,A, you know?) mini or lite versions.
I hope that it's not too specific, but yeah. Would be a huge help.
(P.S. The country I live in, you can only find the most popular ones. Like flagships and such)
Already have two threads for the same topic :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179