Xiaomi miui Second Space - General Questions and Answers

I'm just curious about any developments porting this feature to other handset roms.
I have a redmi note 4 as my, now, spare phone after buying a zte axon 7 as my main (great phone), it is now broke so have replaced it with a oneplus 5t, which has yet to arrive (any day now). I was really juggling between the Xiaomi mi 6 and the oneplus 5t and now I've opted for the 5t, and while I await its arrival and am back using my note 4 with its second space, which I do use. I find myself regretting selecting the 5t.
I find this, second space, feature so amazing yet it doesn't appear top of the list of custom roms and I can only assume because devs have not tried it yet.
I never tried dual apps on my axon 7 so maybe that's better, but still I do like the second space.
So, yeah, is there any devs trying to port it? is there any alternative?
Thanks
edit: Ok ignore this thread. Apparently there are alternative versions of this feature in the oneplus 5t, so I shall assume similar in most handsets now.

So, I got a oneplus 5t.. lovely phone, but regretting not getting the xaomi mi 6 now; as lovely as this phone (1+5t) is the parallel apps feature is massively limited.
Thinking of installing parallel space app from store but... Ahhh...

Dizzee said:
So, I got a oneplus 5t.. lovely phone, but regretting not getting the xaomi mi 6 now; as lovely as this phone (1+5t) is the parallel apps feature is massively limited.
Thinking of installing parallel space app from store but... Ahhh...
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SecondSpace is the only reason I do not install 3rd party ROMs on my Xiaomi phones. I love the Xiaomi huge batteries and everything else you get at this price point. It's a steal! I really don't care for the MIUI system because it's just too ordinary. But I love 2nd space so much that I put up with the vanilla MIUI. I do root the phones, however. One interesting problem is that SecondSpace communicates through the wireless infrastructure in 1st space in some cryptic fashion. It gets blocked by the firewall in 1st space, but I can't figure out how.

I miss second space. Had to resort to using my spare phone (a respectable honor 8), but in this instance I'd still prefer just having to carry a single phone.

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Thinking about trading my S6 Edge for a Ascend Mate 7

I'm deciding if I should make the trade. The main reason is the battery. I found the S6 Edge battery is not enough for me (getting 3 SOT max and it does not last more than 10 hours). So I want to install a Stock ROM on it (is it possible?) and have "infinite" battery life with a good phone.
Any feedbacks on this decision?
Go for P8 Max. It also has 6inch screen, 4000mAh and 16mp camera. The specs are better than Mate 7.
I admit Mate 7 is a good phone but why settle for an old model when there is a new one. Plus, P8 Max has a more updated software, and can be upgraded to Marshmallow in the future.
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The only advice I can think of is that if you like custom roms and rooting then you can't go wrong with samsung phones, i had a note 2 for 3 yrs and then got a mate 7 and i am a bit sorry as trying to root the phone has been a nightmare and i am VERY worried about bricking this phone..
the note 2 is ALMOST impossible to brick and the support for samsung is brilliant on this forum where as the mate even after one year is still iffy.
please don't get me wrong the Mate 7 is a fantastic phone but i am still very uncomfortable to root it as there are SO may opinions and different ways ... (
Mine runs rock solid rooted, still on kitkat.
Rooting is the best for it as you can strip out the google bloat from /system/app.
I've kept most of the Huawei extras but the launcher is rubbish and I installed Smart Launcher Pro. I also installed Viper4Android for awesome sound, poweramp for quality music playback UE. For convenience of screen use, kinscreen, and to help the battery and keep data use under control, leandroid. I also flashed in the Xperia kitkat keyboard through CWM and removed google keyboard.
An older version of xposed is installed with some modules.
All up, it runs well, battery lasts well and it's set up to suit me better. The hardware is good for the price. Connectivity is great.
Apart from the poor Huawei launcher, the Huawei software is actually quite good and even has built in tools to manage permission and memory residence.
The launcher is no big deal when you can just install another and set it as default even if not rooted.
Happy I got mine.
Not for the Mate 7. I have had nothing with issues with the screen on mine. Replaced 2 times by service center. There were lines across the screen that were brighter than the rest of the screen. Got the S6 a week ago.
XenSA said:
The only advice I can think of is that if you like custom roms and rooting then you can't go wrong with samsung phones......
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i agree, while i love the build quality of the mate 7 i cant stand the software. i "upgraded" from a nexus 5 and it just isnt the same. if the mate 7 came with a snapdragon soc rather than the huaweis proprietary soc it would truly be the best phone around. i suggest you wait, zte and other Chinese manufactures will be coming out with snapdragon 820 phablets this year.
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i agree, while i love the build quality of the mate 7 i cant stand the software. i "upgraded" from a nexus 5 and it just isnt the same. if the mate 7 came with a snapdragon soc rather than the huaweis proprietary soc it would truly be the best phone around. i suggest you wait, zte and other Chinese manufactures will be coming out with snapdragon 820 phablets this year.
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What do you find so annoying about the software? I quite like the look and feel, very very stable and in my case it has even made up for the urge I normally have to flash roms, simply because there is no need. I appreciate that some may have had issues with the device but I guess you'll find that with every other device on the market.
I've had samsungs for quite a while before switching to the mate 7 and to be honest after so many years I got tired of Touchwiz with degrading performance or a CM alternative with poorer camera quality.
Instead of flashing one ROM after the other I find myself spending more time using the device enjoying its massive 6" screen [emoji1]
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kta said:
What do you find so annoying about the software?........
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i find it annoying that i cant fully control what i do with my phone. on my nexus 5 i was able to do many things that i now see is not possible with my mate7. yes, i as well love the massive screen but after playing with a few nexus 6p's i have become very jealous. this is how the mate 7 should be. all custom ui stuff should be an optional addon "feature". what makes things worse is that companies spend alot of time building this stuff which many often end up not liking.
look at motorola and sony. they have converted to damn near stock android. whatever customization is present fits nicely into aosp android. last night i installed the stock firmware for my mate 7 (B328) and its honestly..... meh! huawei really bastardized what is the best visual android update. they even managed to completely screw up the recent apps view. huawei should really consider this.
for now im just going to get over it and keep using my mate 7 as is. not fully happy but whatever. thankfully there will be a few full metal phablets with snapdragon 820 chips being released this year. i cant wait!
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i find it annoying that i cant fully control what i do with my phone. on my nexus 5 i was able to do many things that i now see is not possible with my mate7. yes, i as well love the massive screen but after playing with a few nexus 6p's i have become very jealous. this is how the mate 7 should be. all custom ui stuff should be an optional addon "feature". what makes things worse is that companies spend alot of time building this stuff which many often end up not liking.
look at motorola and sony. they have converted to damn near stock android. whatever customization is present fits nicely into aosp android. last night i installed the stock firmware for my mate 7 (B328) and its honestly..... meh! huawei really bastardized what is the best visual android update. they even managed to completely screw up the recent apps view. huawei should really consider this.
for now im just going to get over it and keep using my mate 7 as is. not fully happy but whatever. thankfully there will be a few full metal phablets with snapdragon 820 chips being released this year. i cant wait!
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True, the Nexus 6p is very nice with an even better screen, although tiny smaller.
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Just switched my mate 7 out for a Nexus 6p - like many people on this thread while I thought the hardware was great (especially the battery life!), the iffy software and half assed updates got to me in the end (I came to the mate from a Nexus 5).
The 6p is spot on - shows what huawei can do when running Android as its meant to be. Battery life not so good as the mate 7, but plenty good enough. If you are coming from a high end phone like an s6 edge I'd say the 6p would be a better bet. As regards screen size... I'm not really noticing any reduction in what I can see on the 6p, but going down to 5.7 with a slim width does really help with holding the phone one handed.
I sold my note 5 and for the huawei mate 7, it hasn't arrived yet...I paid 250 for it, however I'm a tad concerned now , have I made a unwise decision .I did it so I could give huawei a chance and I'm seeing and hearing negatives.
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I sold my note 5 and for the huawei mate 7, it hasn't arrived yet...I paid 250 for it, however I'm a tad concerned now , have I made a unwise decision .I did it so I could give huawei a chance and I'm seeing and hearing negatives.
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Well, all phones have their negative sides. I love this phone because of the big screen and long battery life. It has a decent camera. It doesnt lag when playing games.
Give it a chance and I hope you will love this phone too. If ever your Mate 7 still runs on KK just leave it be. Lots of bugs in LP.
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I'm confused ...is the stock lollipop rom buggy ...how can that be lol? Did I jump the gun a bit selling the note 5? Are they're any stable cutom roms you could recommend. I just want it to last me a while and be a wise investment is all...I'm usually fine but this will be my first huawei anything and now a bit ehh lol
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I'm confused ...is the stock lollipop rom buggy ...how can that be lol? Did I jump the gun a bit selling the note 5? Are they're any stable cutom roms you could recommend. I just want it to last me a while and be a wise investment is all...I'm usually fine but this will be my first huawei anything and now a bit ehh lol
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To each his own I guess, but Lollipop is running super stable on my Mate 7.
Custom ROMS are not really an option on this device, there's pretty much no development going on, just have a quick look at the development sub forum and you can easily tell there's not so much going on there.
Make sure that if yo need to upgrade your device try following the official path first, allowing the phone to update itself to LP 5.1.1. If for some reason you don't get the updates just make sure you follow the instructions properly to update with an official ROM from Huawei's website and you should be just fine [emoji6]
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I'm confused ...is the stock lollipop rom buggy ...how can that be lol? Did I jump the gun a bit selling the note 5? Are they're any stable cutom roms you could recommend. I just want it to last me a while and be a wise investment is all...I'm usually fine but this will be my first huawei anything and now a bit ehh lol
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I did have lollipop running on mine for a while, and to be fair it was OK. However, it did seem to be missing some things that were included in KK - the carrier aggregation toggle, and after a hard reset it lost the motion control gesture settings etc.
Hence my point about it being glitchy. The other things that I found annoying is the EMUI customization made it difficult to access some of the underlying android screens (such as data usage etc). Also, I found that Google Voice when used in the USA would not dial out with the correct caller ID and number due to Huawei dialer I couldn't change. The other thing is that it is a bit laborious to change ROMs - you've got to download this, incremental update that, flash this to go back to the start etc.....a bit of pain really and one I couldn't really work out why it was necessary - again points to Huawei releasing all sorts of different confusing updates worldwide some of which were not complete.
Don't get me wrong, fundamentally there's nothing wrong with the phone - its just not a good tinkerers phone, nor is is well supported - none of the ported over more 'pure android' roms have yet been able to make the fingerprint sensor operate and can have iffy result with bluetooth etc.

OnePlus One vs Xiaomi Redmi note 3 pro.

Okay so first off, I'm going to be visiting China soon and I'm looking to buy a phone from there. Considering that OnePlus and Xiaomi are very widely known, I'm only going to be considering these two companies. I'm only looking for a secondary phone. So I don't want the best of the best. But I do want a good phone. I'm currently looking at the Xiaomi redmi note 3 pro and the OnePlus One and the OnePlus X but I'm kind of ignoring the OnePlus X. So, first things first, I hate MIUI. Like I hate it to bits. But since it's a secondary phone, i don't think I'll be really that bothered. But Xiaomi is absolutely horrible with releasing kernel sources so CM won't be coming any time soon. And I love customising my device. From flashing ROMs to flashing mods, I love doing it. So my question to you is, Which one do you think should I choose? The obvious answer is of course whichever I prefer. Between its better sounding specs and that horrible horrible way to be able to have your bootloader unlocked, I'm really confused as to what would be a better device for me.
Thank You for your consideration!
Oneplus one
Considering you want to flash Roms and modify your phone I would say that go for one plus one as it has a huge developer base currently developing roms. Redmi note 3 pro is right now new and has amazing specs for half the price. Though the kernel sources will be delayed ( maybe 4 to 6 months at max hopefully) some Roms do come out after that. (Eg check mi 4 forum on mi website). So basically it's how urgently you want to get start modding your phone. The choice is up to you of course.
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Considering you want to flash Roms and modify your phone I would say that go for one plus one as it has a huge developer base currently developing roms. Redmi note 3 pro is right now new and has amazing specs for half the price. Though the kernel sources will be delayed ( maybe 4 to 6 months at max hopefully) some Roms do come out after that. (Eg check mi 4 forum on mi website). So basically it's how urgently you want to get start modding your phone. The choice is up to you of course.
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But on paper, would you say that the Redmi note 3 pro is a better phone?
Bought RN3 last month, to my surprised (thought that bootloader not locked)
bootloader was lock
applied to unlock bootloader. 3 weeks later a msg told me that I can unlock my phone
But
When I hooked my phone to Xioami, my unit was not in their list to be unlock
so stupid my self
.bought this crap
NotAbdShahid said:
Okay so first off, I'm going to be visiting China soon and I'm looking to buy a phone from there. Considering that OnePlus and Xiaomi are very widely known, I'm only going to be considering these two companies. I'm only looking for a secondary phone. So I don't want the best of the best. But I do want a good phone. I'm currently looking at the Xiaomi redmi note 3 pro and the OnePlus One and the OnePlus X but I'm kind of ignoring the OnePlus X. So, first things first, I hate MIUI. Like I hate it to bits. But since it's a secondary phone, i don't think I'll be really that bothered. But Xiaomi is absolutely horrible with releasing kernel sources so CM won't be coming any time soon. And I love customising my device. From flashing ROMs to flashing mods, I love doing it. So my question to you is, Which one do you think should I choose? The obvious answer is of course whichever I prefer. Between its better sounding specs and that horrible horrible way to be able to have your bootloader unlocked, I'm really confused as to what would be a better device for me.
Thank You for your consideration!
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I'd definitely suggest Oneplus One since you like to flash ROMs and tinker with your phone. If you ultimately decide to go for the Redmi Note 3 go for the Snapdragon 650 version. Qualcomm does a good job releasing CAF source so that particular one is more likely to get support but it depends on if a maintainer picks up the device and builds a ROM for it. You could be stuck on stock for a long time
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I have both. I'll go with one anytime any day
I have both. One plus is 2 years old but still looks great. I didn't have too much trouble unlocking, installing custom recovery + root on Redmi note 3 pro but it is very easy on OPO. Cm13 alpha is available for redmi note 3. For the price xiaomi is outstanding. I'd go for the xiaomi.
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Look at the 2g,3g and 4g bands. OPO is better

Successor of nexus (5) 2017

My faithful nexus have served me well but it needs to be replaced soon
What phone is the spiritual successor of the nexus line with the following characteristics:
Many developers for the phone. (AOSP port within weeks without official support)
5-6 inch
<500$
Is it correct that most devs wants snapdragon?
I see OnePlus as a candidate, is there more not counting Pixel.
Nothing stands out to me as outstanding this year. I am considering a LG G5
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OnePlus 3 would be your best bet for sure.
I think the Xiaomi 5s is the best option.
I know you're probably dismissing the Pixel because of the price, but it really is a great phone. My sister just got one on Sunday since her S3 died a horrible death (eMMC card gave in for some unknown reason). The ad really wasn't lying with regard to having a great camera and charging extremely quickly (she got it at around 85% battery mid-Sunday and didn't have to charge it until 6 PM on Monday).
Yeah you're stuck in a sort of dead period between now and Mobile World Congress in Feb when the next wave of phone announcements come. As ppl have said, OnePlus3 (or rumoured OnePplus3T is your best bet in the flagship-specs-for-cheap segment. Mi5 or Mi5S would be the other option - maybe slightly prettier but bit more of a hassle to unlock and likely to have less good custom ROM support than the OnePlus.
Other than that wait til Feb/Mar for the next wave. In the meantime you could pick up a low end $150 device (take your pick of the Chinese vendors - I use a RedMi3) to tide you over and then use it as a backup phone?
Thanks for the replies.
I am not in a hurry as my old nexus is working fine
I had a look at mi5 page here at xda and saw that it hasen't got nougat yet so that's disqualifying.
Maybe I should formulate the question as: What brand do you think that CM,AOKP etc. will develop mainly on?
Even i have the same thoughts as yours and this is what I planned to do when im switching my Nexus 5.
- Look for a spiritual replacement: Right now I can only see One plus 3, which gives good hardware and dev support for under $500. Other phones are Axon 7 and Zen Phone Deluxe. They have good hardware but you need to research on the development part. Pixel is a good phone but not worth the price and im against such products.
- Look for a cheaper phone till I find a spiritual replacement: Xiaomi products are really good for $200. If you get bored in a year or so, can replace it with another cheaper phone till you find the replacement. Few Xiaomi phones have AOSP rom's which can be installed. I have not come across any other $200 phone with good hardware and little bit of dev support. One of the phones around $200 is Redmi Note 3. It has a Nougat AOSP ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/red...cyanogenmod-14-0-xiaomi-redmi-note-3-t3459382
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Thanks for the replies.
I am not in a hurry as my old nexus is working fine
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Oh. If you're not rushing wait til OnePlus4 (or whatever the successor is) launches in spring.
johnnydue said:
Thanks for the replies.
Maybe I should formulate the question as: What brand do you think that CM,AOKP etc. will develop mainly on?
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Pixel will be the leading brand open platforms develop on!
Otherwise OnePlus is probably a good bet. I heard from someone that many googlers use them now for all the reasons discussed above.
Otherwise your best bet for support is the device which has the largest installed base in the non-Chinese speaking world. Largest installed base = more users = (all things equal) more devs. Maybe you can get a Samsung device for cheap!!

I´m wondering if the Honor 8 is the right phone for me

Hey Guys,
I bought the Honor 8 and I´m super happy with it.
BUT
Why is there almost no custom rom support?
Is Honor holding back on the kernel source?
I´m a little bit worried that (like on my last phone redmi note 2) there will be no good custom roms
and in the end I´m stuck with a phone that will no longer be updated ....
Don´t get me wrong, I dont want to complain, I`m just worried because 350$ is a lot of money for me and I´m looking for a phone that will be (software wise) up to date for at least 3 years. (with custom roms, like CM14 etc)
So, should I return it or should I keep it?
Thanks in advance!
Gecko
there will be rom development but it will be slow as there are no sources to fix bugs or get things working properly
if you really wanted custom roms, you shoulve picked a snapdragon device,
i cant say its not gonna have a good custom rom support, but all i can say is huaweis kirin is not completely open sourced, and even if it will be opened, it is not as flexible as snapdragon..
for a better clearification, go on and have a look at honor 7 or 6 forums,,
I bought this phone about 3 weeks ago. At first I was excited at how beautiful it was, hardware-wise, and simply told myself I'd get used to the software. Fast forward to now and I wish I would have went with a Pixel or even Sony device.
Even on the stock ROM certain things don't work, such as Accessibility Settings for LastPass password App Fill, adding VCard info to your contacts list won't work/sync to the cloud, and the stock Huawei apps that you can't uninstall annoyingly keep asking for permissions. There are more that I forgot to mention but I miss having everything just work in vanilla Android. Sadly, custom ROM support is buggy and is stuck at Marshmallow.
That said, here's what I like:
- PRICE. Can be found for just under $300 now
- much faster than my Nexus 5X
- swipe left/right on the home button shrinks the screen to give easy thumb access to the top of your app (similar to what iOS does)
- there's a Power Hungry app notification which let's you easily close battery draining apps
- fast fingerprint unlock, and you can use the sensor as a button
- though EMUI generally lags behind AOSP, Huawei did a great job making it look sleek even though they borrowed a ton from iOS
I'm going to look into returning it at Best Buy. Once you go stock Android it's hard to get used to anything else (aside from Sony's light touches), and I don't think I can live with this device until next November.
Thank you for all your answers.
I think I´m gonna go with redmi note 3 pro international version
DerGecko110 said:
Thank you for all your answers.
I think I´m gonna go with redmi note 3 pro international version
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Good choice better rom support

Mate 9 .... Future Development

I love my Nexus 6 but I am having some battery issues, I have always wanted a better camera and I need more storage than the 32gb I currently have.
I have been looking at the Mate 9 since early fall and then somewhat spur of the moment ordered one from Amazon (I get a year to pay for it) yesterday. It should arrive tomorrow. Unfortunately, as I have poured through the Mate 9 forums for the last 24 hrs I have found not much development as I hoped for.
I then looked at the comparable new phone forums like the OnePlus3T and saw a crap load of development.
Input would be greatly appreciated!
What is the likelihood of development being stepped up for the Mate 9 in the coming weeks / months?
Any thoughts from the perspective of buying a OnPlus3T 64gb (twice my current memory) vs staying with the Mate9 (and having almost 200gb right off the bat -- 64gb plus my 128 sd card)?
I guess if the thought is that there is little chance of significantly further development for the Mate 9 I might rather try the alternative.
Thanks!!!!
It's never going to be comparable to the OnePlus, for a start because it's powered by a Kirin SoC which is a brilliant chip in itself but not widely documented.
Doesn't bother me one bit though, the device runs smooth as butter and I stopped tinkering years ago, jailbreaking, rooting, the lot. I'm happy with it as is.
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It's never going to be comparable to the OnePlus, for a start because it's powered by a Kirin SoC which is a brilliant chip in itself but not widely documented.
Doesn't bother me one bit though, the device runs smooth as butter and I stopped tinkering years ago, jailbreaking, rooting, the lot. I'm happy with it as is.
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Exactly as I feel. If you want to have fun modifying your phone, go for the OnePlus, or a Samsung.
If you just want a great phone to use, stick with the Mate 9. You can't do better - at least until this year's new phones come out. And they will have to be brilliant to beat the Mate 9.
Ever since getting the honor note 8. I've been nothing but Huawei/Honor and nothing else. And haven't felt the need to root them.
Honor note 8
Honor 8
Huawei mate 9
Sure there a few quirks. But def a fresh of new air after living with Samsung and LG and everything else under the sun. Since androids inception. Gone through countless devices since the HTC hero and rooted every single one. Now don't even care anymore cause the crap just works now. Lol.
The mate 9 is a fantastic device that nobody will buy. ( Ie normal people )
What do u need root for. ?
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Ever since getting the honor note 8. I've been nothing but Huawei/Honor and nothing else. And haven't felt the need to root them.
Honor note 8
Honor 8
Huawei mate 9
Sure there a few quirks. But def a fresh of new air after living with Samsung and LG and everything else under the sun. Since androids inception. Gone through countless devices since the HTC hero and rooted every single one. Now don't even care anymore cause the crap just works now. Lol.
The mate 9 is a fantastic device that nobody will buy. ( Ie normal people )
What do u need root for. ?
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I guess not so much just needing root ( for things like Titanium Backup [wouldn't even need that if there isn't any ROMs being developed], some Tasker functions, kernel tweaking , to name a few)
Granted I could do without most
BUT ... there are some little things that are made nice with Custom ROMs (esp just a plain ole AOSP ROM or maybe some Lineage based ROMs like Res Remix)
Ultimately though the Mate 9 is really nice ...... now I think I gotta decide whether I wanna keep the Mate 9 with 4gb ROM / 64 gb (and my 128 gb microSD card) ...... OR ........ the Mate 9 Pro with 6gb ROM / 128gb internal (and not use my microSD)
Any thoughts? I've had the Mate 9 for about 36 hrs ,,, get the Pro to try Wed
I'm guessing performance wise the 9 and pro are nearly identical except for the ram difference so I guess it all comes down to screen size. I'm more a the bigger the better kind of guy so I went with the normal mate 9. But since you can get your hands on both, see which size is more fit for you.
Yep, screen size wins it for me. But hey whatever floats your boat.
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