My first MicroSD-less phone. How to use? - Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers

I understand Google Photos for images and video. Google music streams your musics. Buuut what about users that need some "external" area that won't get deleted when flashing or wiping? My main concern is where will titanium backup files go where they can survive a wipe.
Is there a dedicated partition for storage aside from the OS?
I receive my Pixel 2 tomorrow and am curious about how I will make this change.
On my current device's MixroSD card, I've
40gb of local music (country area where streaming isn't always an option),
10gb photos and videos,
3gb of app and data backup via titanium backup.
Thanks!

typhoonikan said:
I understand Google Photos for images and video. Google music streams your musics. Buuut what about users that need some "external" area that won't get deleted when flashing or wiping? My main concern is where will titanium backup files go where they can survive a wipe.
Is there a dedicated partition for storage aside from the OS?
I receive my Pixel 2 tomorrow and am curious about how I will make this change.
On my current device's MixroSD card, I've
40gb of local music (country area where streaming isn't always an option),
10gb photos and videos,
3gb of app and data backup via titanium backup.
Thanks!
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You'll need to transfer that stuff off your device. There isn't a partition you can put it on that doing get wiped. It's kind of a pita. You can backup tibu to Dropbox but that doesn't work out too well either. I've found backing up apps to Google works best but that doesn't help you with the data.
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jd1639 said:
You'll need to transfer that stuff off your device. There isn't a partition you can put it on that doing get wiped. It's kind of a pita. You can backup tibu to Dropbox but that doesn't work out too well either. I've found backing up apps to Google works best but that doesn't help you with the data.
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Cool, thanks. I suppose I'll have to rely on a USB to go device.

User storage is still considered /sdcard in the filesystem. When you do a full wipe (i.e. bootloader unlock, leave the -w in when manually flashing the update via .bat, factory data reset, etc.), it'll get wiped. If you're concerned about losing that data when wiping partitions, such as when you flash custom roms, it won't touch your storage. You can elect to have it wiped, but you can also make sure it doesn't. Yes, when you do backups, it's a good idea to transfer them off-device, but if you're just flashing roms and such, it's not necessary.
So yes, the userdata partition and storage partitions are separate.
Edit for clarification: In TWRP, userdata is "data" and what pops up as USB Mass Storage, or what would be on your sdcard is called "Internal Storage".

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Help with Nandroid

Hey all,
I've been searching everywhere in google as well as in XDA with no success. I am trying to do a full Nandroid backup (just like people are advising you to do when changing roms).
I currently have Clockwork 3.0.0 and am Rooted on stock. When I go into recovery, the only thing I have in regards to backup is just "backup" and no "Nandroid Backup" like people are saying all over the forums. Do I have to install something specific? I am puzzled! Is nandroid a method of backing up or the name of a program?
Also, when I backed up using Clockword >> Backup I found its only around 300mb so I assume it doesnt backup your SD content (i.e. pictures and videos + programs) as well? Is there a way to do a FULL image with literally everything?
Any help will be appreciated!
Hi...well backup sounds about right. Don't worry about whether it says nandroid or not. Mind doesn't. Just go ahead and do the backup.
And as for the SD card...well no need to worry there either because the SD contents do not get wiped out anyway, so there's no need for it to be backed up in the sameway.
Hope that helps.
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When I'm looking at the development section, it says that it will "WIPE ALL YOUR DATA". Doesn't this suggest I should also backup my pictures + videos?
Thanks for the help!
The only thing that wipes all your data and sdcard is a fastboot oem unlock, and it sounds like you're already past there. Flashing new roms and choosing "wipe data" in clockwork recovery does not touch your sdcard at all.
It's always a good idea to backup your photos and videos just in case. It only takes a few minutes and better to waste a few minutes than lose a precious irreplaceable video of the kid's first steps.
Nothing should wipe your sdcard other than the fastboot oem unlock, but that doesn't mean it can't be wiped by mistake. I just responded in another thread where the guy accidentally formatted his sdcard. Everything gone.
Better safe than sorry, in my opinion.
haha i agree, will Titanium Pro backup my photos/videos aswell (as you've commented on the other thread) or it just backs up apps ?
co0kie said:
haha i agree, will Titanium Pro backup my photos/videos aswell (as you've commented on the other thread) or it just backs up apps ?
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It will only backup apps/data on the internal rom space, not on the sdcard; so no, it won't take care of your photos/videos.
Mount the phone via USB, select mount USB storage, then drag and drop the folders with your photos/videos to your computer harddrive.
Camera photos and vids are kept in the /dcim folder if you use stock. Some 3rd party camera apps may put them someplace else.
I usually just make a full copy of the sdcard at one point, then use rsync periodically to keep it current.
distortedloop said:
It will only backup apps/data on the internal rom space, not on the sdcard; so no, it won't take care of your photos/videos.
Mount the phone via USB, select mount USB storage, then drag and drop the folders with your photos/videos to your computer harddrive.
Camera photos and vids are kept in the /dcim folder if you use stock. Some 3rd party camera apps may put them someplace else.
I usually just make a full copy of the sdcard at one point, then use rsync periodically to keep it current.
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So I guess this is one adv. of keeping apps on internal rom space.
Making a copy of the sdcard and resyncing it periodically sounds like a good idea IMO, what programe do you use to resync the sdcard?
thanks,
co0kie said:
So I guess this is one adv. of keeping apps on internal rom space.
Making a copy of the sdcard and resyncing it periodically sounds like a good idea IMO, what programe do you use to resync the sdcard?
thanks,
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Titanium will backup apps and data that are on the sdcard if you put them there with the apps2sd feature. It's smart that way. I'm talking about the apps that store settings and stuff (like Titanium itself, Launcher Pro, ADW, the gym log apps I've used, lots of games, etc) that put user data on the sdcard outside of the protected or apps2sd storage area on the sdcard.
I don't use an app for rsync, I just use the rsync command from the terminal on my Mac.
There's a couple of rsync apps on the Market. Someone mentioned using an app to rsync in one of the threads on here not too long ago. Here's an appbrain link to a search on the term rsync, it only shows two apps.
What if I move the app using Gingerbread feature to "move to sd", will it still know to back them up?
/is that what u meant in the beginning by feature of apps2sd? not sure cause there is an actuall program that does this
co0kie said:
What if I move the app using Gingerbread feature to "move to sd", will it still know to back them up?
/is that what u meant in the beginning by feature of apps2sd? not sure cause there is an actuall program that does this
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Yes, that's what I meant. It also covers just about all of the various apps to the sdcard hacks that various rom makers have implemented over the last year or two; certainly the popular ones like cyanogen and darktremor's versions.
If you get Titanium Pro, pay for the license. It will enable batch restore where all your apps can be restored at once without user intervention, otherwise I believe you have to okay each one individually.
I just bought it and performed a batch back up thank you!
Now, assuming i have already perfomed a backup and now if i move the app2sd, will it know to update it next time?
Then, when i jump to the next ROM, all i have to do is batch restore?
co0kie said:
I just bought it and performed a batch back up thank you!
Now, assuming i have already perfomed a backup and now if i move the app2sd, will it know to update it next time?
Then, when i jump to the next ROM, all i have to do is batch restore?
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If you move the app to the sd, the restore will put the app back in its location where it was during the backup. Just run a batch backup of all changed applications after moving anything around.
After you flash a new rom, just run a batch restore: apps and data only, usually not a good idea to restore system settings across different roms.

Factory Reset?...

Hello everyone
I'm considering installing another Rom but..I need to do factory reset, What I'm worried about is internal sdcard that has Roms and kernels also my music and other files if I factory reset would my internal sdcard be wiped?
I use a Sony Xperia P LT22i Android 4.2.1
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Any help please
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you should back up the data on a pc first if it does wipe it, like with my Galaxys2 it has 2gigs of ROM space and 16gigs of a internal SD. when i factory reset the stuff on the internal SD is not deleted, be sure to make a backup of it anyway.
ok thanks will do
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Hard app data onfactory wipe
Trozzul said:
you should back up the data on a pc first if it does wipe it, like with my Galaxys2 it has 2gigs of ROM space and 16gigs of a internal SD. when i factory reset the stuff on the internal SD is not deleted, be sure to make a backup of it anyway.
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I have the opposite problem. I want to clear an mb886 of all application data. From Philz, I can do a factory wipe and as you stated the application data remains. I want all music, texts, call history, photos, bookmarks and caches etc..., all gone.
My preference is that the flash disk sectors be overwritten with random data, but a re-writing of the file structure (as in re-formatting) would be OK. Yes, I know the flash disk will churn the sectors complicating everything. I have found nothing in the Playstore that I trust to not f'up my phone
For starters, I would like to use Philz to clear my app data. I am reluctant to start unmounting and re-formatting everything in sight. I am concerned I could destroy important stuff like radio, modem configuration and such. I have not been able to find a list of what is stored where in the Android file system.
Thank you,
Ray
rlillard said:
I have the opposite problem. I want to clear an mb886 of all application data. From Philz, I can do a factory wipe and as you stated the application data remains. I want all music, texts, call history, photos, bookmarks and caches etc..., all gone.
My preference is that the flash disk sectors be overwritten with random data, but a re-writing of the file structure (as in re-formatting) would be OK. Yes, I know the flash disk will churn the sectors complicating everything. I have found nothing in the Playstore that I trust to not f'up my phone
For starters, I would like to use Philz to clear my app data. I am reluctant to start unmounting and re-formatting everything in sight. I am concerned I could destroy important stuff like radio, modem configuration and such. I have not been able to find a list of what is stored where in the Android file system.
Thank you,
Ray
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i could be entirely wrong but i think you should just wipe data plug it into a pc and when the storage comes up delete everything there. as for text messages and such you would have to delete it all yourself or if its stored on the sim card, remove the sim card.

Browse twrp backup

Hey guys i got a question. I did a backup via twrp and moved it to a USB flash drive then did a factory reset now I'm trying to fnd my photos to restore them via nandroid manager but i cant find them. Can anyone tell me the path where they were backed up?
FYI im pretty sure the photos are weithin the backup because it has a size of about 5gb.
Thank you in advance!
The 'backup' is for the system. Twrp does not backup folders per se. All my pics are on my 128gb card and no matter what I flash or restore, there they are. Are you saying they were on the phone and you managed to delete them, if so, that's what a restore should fix. I say should because sometimes restores don't work the way you might expect them too.
Yeah but I want to restore just the photos is there a way to extract them out of the backup?
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TWRP backups and recovery backups in general only save /system, /cache, /dalvik-cache and /data, but the data directory has stored only app data, settings etc. but no media (that's in the /media or /sdcard directory). If you did a factory reset usually the internal sdcard won't be cleared. If it somehow happened your pictures are lost, if you didn't enable Google's automatic photo backup.
Link for a clearer explanation:
https://m.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/278oq8/twrp_backup_is_data_the_sdcard_how_does_restore/

Restore pictures, videos, data - Nexus 5 - Android 6.0.1

Hi everybody,
I have made a back factory setting to handle a battery issue. Thinking have realized correctly my backup, I have done this manipulation. After I have restored my backup, I have seen that all my pictures were not on my phone (or in the DCIM folder).
I have rooted my phone and tried some recovery applications (like Jihosoft, ...) without any success.
I have explored a lot of websites and seen many comments saying that this operation is not possible.
Do you think is it possible to restore my data? If yes, Do you know an application or PC's software doing this recovery for Android
6.0.1 Marshmallow?
Thank in advance.
As far as i know once you format partition everything on it is gone and you can not retrieve enything.
Backups in recovery dont backup your data such as pictures,videos, music... they only backup your apps and respective app data.
Xmaster8 said:
As far as i know once you format partition everything on it is gone and you can not retrieve enything.
Backups in recovery dont backup your data such as pictures,videos, music... they only backup your apps and respective app data.
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Hi tks for you response!
I'm afraid to that, but I red that you could use your recuva PC which seems powerful if you can mont your Partition. I have
not try that yet.
chrisd78 said:
Hi tks for you response!
I'm afraid to that, but I red that you could use your recuva PC which seems powerful if you can mont your Partition. I have
not try that yet.
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It is a long shot. As you said you already restored backup which means you already wrote data on the partition.
Those data recovery programs work 100% when you delete/format partition and you try to recover deleted files before anything is written on that formated partition. In your case even if you manage to pull something out it will probably be corrupted files.
Xmaster8 said:
It is a long shot. As you said you already restored backup which means you already wrote data on the partition.
Those data recovery programs work 100% when you delete/format partition and you try to recover deleted files before anything is written on that formated partition. In your case even if you manage to pull something out it will probably be corrupted files.
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Yes, I am agree with you. My phone is used currently and I have received some new data wrote on the "old one" in my partition. My hope to retrieve these data is low now maybe null...
This is the value of using Google+, Dropbox, Amazon Prime, etc. photo syncing, etc. At least photos can be restored. Other files ... not so much.
Not sure what kind of backup YOU did but my CWM backups grab the entire /data partition, photos included.
ChromeJob said:
This is the value of using Google+, Dropbox, Amazon Prime, etc. photo syncing, etc. At least photos can be restored. Other files ... not so much.
Not sure what kind of backup YOU did but my CWM backups grab the entire /data partition, photos included.
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If I could at least restore photos I would be a lucky man!

Full backup of dying phone using TWRP, backup should be accessible without the phone

Hello,
I have a Redmi Note 5 with TWRP and AOSP Extended, the charging circuits of which have died, so the phone cannot be charged or even take power from a charger, otherwise entirely functional. I now have my "last charge", the phone is charged to 100% and turned off, but as soon as the battery reaches 0% it is dead, probably forever, as it is not possible to charge it.
Now, I would like to somehow make a backup of the entire phone, in case there is some data that I might find out I need in the future. Is it possible to create a backup that I will be able to fully access after the phone dies? Is it possible to make such an image of the phone, that I could import it into a virtual machine and run on my computer?
Thank you very much.
Using TWRP file manager you can backup your pictures, video, documents etc. To your SD card,, otg or pc. But you can't backup you /data. Data and internal storage are different. Data doesn't include pictures or videos. It just includes your apps and apps data. To backup this /data you have to use migrate or titanium backup. A /data backup of a perticular device from TWRP, might not boot on another device. So use migrate. You can select the apps you want to backup and you can put that in your SD card or drive. That apps can easily be flashed on other phones. TWRP only backs up /data NOT internal storage
Android emulators run on x86/x86-64 CPU based machines whereas Android OS - all it installed apps included - runs on 32-bit/64-bit ARM-CPU based devices. Hence it doesn't make any sense trying to clone an existing Android device in order to run this clone in an Android emulator. It simply doesn't work.
Tab E said:
Using TWRP file manager you can backup your pictures, video, documents etc. To your SD card,, otg or pc. But you can't backup you /data. Data and internal storage are different. Data doesn't include pictures or videos. It just includes your apps and apps data. To backup this /data you have to use migrate or titanium backup. A /data backup of a perticular device from TWRP, might not boot on another device. So use migrate. You can select the apps you want to backup and you can put that in your SD card or drive. That apps can easily be flashed on other phones. TWRP only backs up /data NOT internal storage
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You are wrong. The /data partition - also called /userdata - is located on device's internal storage memory. To keep you updated: The /data partition has subfolder /data/media where user's data like pictures, musics, videos, etc.pp are stored.
The /data partition what also holds all apps and their data ( obb excluded ) installed by user in subfolder /data/apps always - using the right tool - can completely get backed up.
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Using TWRP file manager you can backup your pictures, video, documents etc. To your SD card,, otg or pc. But you can't backup you /data. Data and internet storage are different. Data doesn't include pictures or videos. It just includes your apps and apps
Tab E said:
Using TWRP file manager you can backup your pictures, video, documents etc. To your SD card,, otg or pc. But you can't backup you /data. Data and internet storage are different. Data doesn't include pictures or videos. It just includes your apps and apps data. To backup this /data you have to use migrate or titanium backup. A /data backup of a perticular device from TWRP, might not boot on another device. So use migrate. You can select the apps you want to backup and you can put that in your SD card or drive. That apps can easily be flashed on other phones
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data. To backup this /data you have to use migrate or titanium backup. A /data backupof a perticular from TWRP, might not boot on another device. So use migrate. You can select the apps you want to backup and you can put that in your SD card or drive. That apps can easily be flashed on other phones
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jwoegerbauer said:
You are wrong. The /data partition - also called /userdata - is located on device's internal storage menory. The /data partition has subfolder /data/media where user's data like pictures, musics, videos, etc.pp are stored. The /data partition what also holds all apps and their data ( obb excluded ) installed by user always - using the right tool - can completely get backed up.
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Thanks for informing
Thank you everyone for clarifying, I ended up just making a backup of the internal storage manually and then all the other partitions using TWRP backup.

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