Sorry I am a noob at android and i am trying to decide between which at&t phone i should choose. So does this locked bootloader thing set me back from customization for android phones?
Any other suggestions for at&t android phones i'm due for an upgrade june 2nd.
Bump?
Going crazy trying to figure out what android phone i want from at&t.
thanks in advance.
Yes, for now anyway. It means you cant install complete roms like CM7 or MIUI. The ones available are mostly themes. That said, there are multiple workarounds being worked on at the moment with good progress being made on them, so it probably wont be an issue before too long.
Personally, I'd go for the Atrix. Its still the best phone on AT&T from a raw horsepower perspective.
so eventually i will be able to unlock those custom roms, with that said if i get the device and root it what will be the extra features?
Anyone know how to convert a verizon m8 to a htc dev edition ?
I hate verizon and their software, and it would be nice to not be running verizon software and convert to the dev edition and get updates and not have to wait for verizon to drag their feet like they always do.
I know I could go with a gpe rom but I have had bad luck with them, and its a lot easier to customize a sense rom and I do like sense 6, and I do believe the htc dev m8's run sense roms.
Anyone ?
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Anyone know if you can convert a verizon m8 to a htc dev edition ?
I hate verizon and their software, and it would be nice to not be running verizon software and convert to the dev edition and get updates and not have to wait for verizon to drag their feet like they always do.
I know I could go with a gpe rom but I have had bad luck with them, and its a lot easier to customize a sense rom and I do like sense 6, and I do believe the htc dev m8's run sense roms.
Anyone ?
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Is your service through Verizon? Then no. You'll always have to "wait" on Verizon for the latest firmware, etc. You could always switch carriers and "wait" on them too. The grass is always greener on the other side. Verizon had the fastest m7 updates and had one slow m8 update. Even with the M7 people *****ed about how slow Verizon was (despite getting the major updates out before any other carrier). If you can't wait for updates, get the new Moto X.
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Is your service through Verizon? Then no. You'll always have to "wait" on Verizon for the latest firmware, etc. You could always switch carriers and "wait" on them too. The grass is always greener on the other side. Verizon had the fastest m7 updates and had one slow m8 update. Even with the M7 people *****ed about how slow Verizon was (despite getting the major updates out before any other carrier). If you can't wait for updates, get the new Moto X.
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I know it can be done there were posts about it before on xda because the process they talked about using a back up from an actual dev edition m8 to do it.
Just because my phone operates on verizon does not mean that it has to run on verizon software, just as you can purchase a dev edition or gpe edition m8 and use it on verizon without verizon software and firmware.
Right now I can run a gpe google play edition rom and get rid of the verizon software and even be able to get rid of the verizon firmware.
Just like you can get a google nexus and run it on verizon service and totally without verizon software and verizon firmware, so yes the verizon m8 can be converted to a dev edition its just a matter of figuring out the process of doing it.
So for the record your wrong...
I made a mistake in listing this I meant to say does anyone know how to convert a verizon m8 to a htc dev edition, as we all know it can be done its just about figuring out how to do it.
The phones are the same physically its all in the programming, so it can be done, my question is does anyone know how to acomplish this ????
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I made a mistake in listing this I meant to say does anyone know how to convert a verizon m8 to a htc dev edition, as we all know it can be done its just about figuring out how to do it.
The phones are the same physically its all in the programming, so it can be done, my question is does anyone know how to acomplish this ????
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well... it if were so simple it would be done, wouldn't it? Maybe not?
We must not have anyone on Verizon who wants this enough to put the time in to get it done.
If it has been done on other M8's then yes it can most likely be done on the Verizon variant.
to accomplish it?
reverse engineer the GSM M8 conversion.
talk to someone who converted a GSM M8 to Dev Edition, maybe they will tell you all that is required and you can start working on trying to do it, maybe they won't - who knows til ya try?
but basically you see how they did it on GSM, and "port" it to the Verizon variant using our files.
The main thing (I think anyway, maybe it doesn't even matter lol) - just giving my 2 cents - it has to do with hboot, much to the liking how edits are made by hex to the hboot.img to remove the red text, it would possibly have to be edited to be allowed to be flashed on our Variant.
I really don't know though, and I am not sure you will get many answers in this specific area, simply because it's Verizon, and the only people going to find it are the ones wanting it also on Verizon.
So, I would possibly post in the thread of a conversion thread and see what they say, or PM the OP of that thread and see what he says.
I don't think this spot will get much more than speculation such as this post right here, because if I knew how to do it, I would do it for you.
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well... it if were so simple it would be done, wouldn't it? Maybe not?
We must not have anyone on Verizon who wants this enough to put the time in to get it done.
If it has been done on other M8's then yes it can most likely be done on the Verizon variant.
to accomplish it?
reverse engineer the GSM M8 conversion.
talk to someone who converted a GSM M8 to Dev Edition, maybe they will tell you all that is required and you can start working on trying to do it, maybe they won't - who knows til ya try?
but basically you see how they did it on GSM, and "port" it to the Verizon variant using our files.
The main thing (I think anyway, maybe it doesn't even matter lol) - just giving my 2 cents - it has to do with hboot, much to the liking how edits are made by hex to the hboot.img to remove the red text, it would possibly have to be edited to be allowed to be flashed on our Variant.
I really don't know though, and I am not sure you will get many answers in this specific area, simply because it's Verizon, and the only people going to find it are the ones wanting it also on Verizon.
So, I would possibly post in the thread of a conversion thread and see what they say, or PM the OP of that thread and see what he says.
I don't think this spot will get much more than speculation such as this post right here, because if I knew how to do it, I would do it for you.
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Yeah, I could have sworn I saw a topic on this in our forum when the phone came out like a couple months in. I just know there is no way I could ever figure it out I just know we have a lot of good devs cruising our forum so I figured maybe none of them ever really thought about it.
I"am just one of those people that has no choice but to use verizon even though I only get 1x data here which its on an Ohio state route highway, and at&t has very very weak signal cant even get any unless I go right out to the highway and then its edge most of the time, and no tmobile coverage for 30 miles.
I"am just trying to figure out a way to at least ditch their ( verizons ) software and firmware at least because theirs quite literally sucks and I cant really afford to go buy a dev edition so this was my only hope. I just hate verizon with a passion but I"am stuck with them.
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Yeah, I could have sworn I saw a topic on this in our forum when the phone came out like a couple months in. I just know there is no way I could ever figure it out I just know we have a lot of good devs cruising our forum so I figured maybe none of them ever really thought about it.
I"am just one of those people that has no choice but to use verizon even though I only get 1x data here which its on an Ohio state route highway, and at&t has very very weak signal cant even get any unless I go right out to the highway and then its edge most of the time, and no tmobile coverage for 30 miles.
I"am just trying to figure out a way to at least ditch their ( verizons ) software and firmware at least because theirs quite literally sucks and I cant really afford to go buy a dev edition so this was my only hope. I just hate verizon with a passion but I"am stuck with them.
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have you tried any of the GPE ROMS?
I know it isn't a GPE phone.. but the ROM might help? sorry I am not good with this subject, wish I could be of more help.
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have you tried any of the GPE ROMS?
I know it isn't a GPE phone.. but the ROM might help? sorry I am not good with this subject, wish I could be of more help.
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I have tried the gpe roms and for some reason I could never get them to work, but I did on my old m7. The main thing for me was I could never figure out how to do all the customizing on gpe roms, like I do with the viperone rom I guess they have me spoiled, like I need to have the back up button to work to kill your current app when you hold it down, then I like to run the at&t signal icons instead of the verizon ones, then I like to remove the battery icon completely and just run the stock sense percentage for the battery.
Then I like the sense camera but I could do without it. And I like having the harman kardon audio. I know most of these features are not easy to set up on a gpe even if you can at all.
I did like how the gpe with my old m7 would run smother and use less of the phones memory just to operate the operating system.
I thought about trying the team nocturnal gpe rom again, but it seems like all the gpe roms have not been updated since early august so its been well over a month since any had updates which that kind of makes me weary to think the support is not there maybe ?
I just know with viperone they normally dont go more than a month at most without updating their rom, but for viperone they base it all on international firmware so I think the rom runs best on gsm versions and that for our verizon m8's I dont think it works as well as I had an at&t m8 and I think the viperone worked much better on it than it does on our verizon m8, but I really dont have a lot of choices of roms that are easy to customize like viperone.
I use to love the elegancia rom for the m8 and wish v6maniac would start it back up but it looks like that is not going to happen since hes on team insert coin which that rom is ok but to me my only choice has been viperone since no elegancia.
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I have tried the gpe roms and for some reason I could never get them to work, but I did on my old m7. The main thing for me was I could never figure out how to do all the customizing on gpe roms, like I do with the viperone rom I guess they have me spoiled, like I need to have the back up button to work to kill your current app when you hold it down, then I like to run the at&t signal icons instead of the verizon ones, then I like to remove the battery icon completely and just run the stock sense percentage for the battery.
Then I like the sense camera but I could do without it. And I like having the harman kardon audio. I know most of these features are not easy to set up on a gpe even if you can at all.
I did like how the gpe with my old m7 would run smother and use less of the phones memory just to operate the operating system.
I thought about trying the team nocturnal gpe rom again, but it seems like all the gpe roms have not been updated since early august so its been well over a month since any had updates which that kind of makes me weary to think the support is not there maybe ?
I just know with viperone they normally dont go more than a month at most without updating their rom, but for viperone they base it all on international firmware so I think the rom runs best on gsm versions and that for our verizon m8's I dont think it works as well as I had an at&t m8 and I think the viperone worked much better on it than it does on our verizon m8, but I really dont have a lot of choices of roms that are easy to customize like viperone.
I use to love the elegancia rom for the m8 and wish v6maniac would start it back up but it looks like that is not going to happen since hes on team insert coin which that rom is ok but to me my only choice has been viperone since no elegancia.
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I highly suggest you give Liquid Smooth AOSP ROM a try with Apex launcher, I NEVER though I'd leave Sense and actually use AOSP ROM for more than an hour, but it's been my DD for months.
AOSP has everything, you can edit all the soft key buttons to whatever you want, it's not as many Tweaks as Venom, but no offense to them, they have a bit too many I get kind of lost..
can you do me a favor, and tell me the last four number of your baseband?
go into settings > about phone - should be in there..
do you know if you flashed the Android 4.4.3 firmware??
If not then this is a big issue and most likely why your having GPE ROM issues, also Team Venoms ROM will run muuhc better.
if you need help getting the new firmware let me know, (if you don't already have it installed..)
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I highly suggest you give Liquid Smooth AOSP ROM a try with Apex launcher, I NEVER though I'd leave Sense and actually use AOSP ROM for more than an hour, but it's been my DD for months.
AOSP has everything, you can edit all the soft key buttons to whatever you want, it's not as many Tweaks as Venom, but no offense to them, they have a bit too many I get kind of lost..
can you do me a favor, and tell me the last four number of your baseband?
go into settings > about phone - should be in there..
do you know if you flashed the Android 4.4.3 firmware??
If not then this is a big issue and most likely why your having GPE ROM issues, also Team Venoms ROM will run muuhc better.
if you need help getting the new firmware let me know, (if you don't already have it installed..)
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I"am on 0702 baseband, and I restored a stock backup and stock recovery and I took the ota for 4.4.3 the week it came out.
When I tried a couple gpe roms it was a while before the verizon firmware update came out but others were using them on the same verizon firmware, and the team nocturnal gpe is made for a verizon m8, its not like some of the other roms where they were made for international or gsm and then just modified to work on verizon m8.
I think roms that are made for your exact version of m8 work better than roms made for a different version then are adapted to work on the verizon m8 also.
Any news on this? I´ve been trying almost everything around to convert to WWE/Dev, no joy at all.
Would it work for me since I'm using a Verizon m8 on cricket which is gsm?
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Would it work for me since I'm using a Verizon m8 on cricket which is gsm?
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I doubt it matters who your on, its all about the conversion process working which no one has ever posted they converted the verizon m8 to a dev edition.
Only the gsm version have been able to be converted to a dev.
Believe me I tried and tried and tried and its posted all over where no one could figure it out.
The verizon m8 is a world phone meaning both cdma and gsm so in theory it should be possible but the cdma side may well be what keeps the conversion from working.
I do not think you will find much support on this going forward since the m9 is out now and most likely any conversion efforts would be put towards the new model m9 instead of last years m8.
Now if someone cracks this for the verizon m9 then it may be used towards the m8 also but the focus would mostly be on the new model m9 you would think instead of last years m8.
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I doubt it matters who your on, its all about the conversion process working which no one has ever posted they converted the verizon m8 to a dev edition.
Only the gsm version have been able to be converted to a dev.
Believe me I tried and tried and tried and its posted all over where no one could figure it out.
The verizon m8 is a world phone meaning both cdma and gsm so in theory it should be possible but the cdma side may well be what keeps the conversion from working.
I do not think you will find much support on this going forward since the m9 is out now and most likely any conversion efforts would be put towards the new model m9 instead of last years m8.
Now if someone cracks this for the verizon m9 then it may be used towards the m8 also but the focus would mostly be on the new model m9 you would think instead of last years m8.
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I second this. Tried everything around and still no joy.
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I second this. Tried everything around and still no joy.
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I feel your pain brother as I tried to do this on my verizon m8 I spent a couple week trying and finally gave up as their was really not enough dev interest on doing this and I couldnt do it myself as I fully admit I"am not the guy to do it.
If someone gets her done on the m9 I"am sure the m8 would get it also, until then I guess we verizon users are another red headed step child right in front of the sprint guys lol. At least until they eventually weed out cdma which might take years to do but I believe that is their goal by maybe 2020 lol same for ditching 1x and 3g to convert that spectrum to LTE.
I"am just going but what I have read so please dont anyone ask me for documentation on this lol.
Hi guys,
I was checking the Standard M8 Android Development thread and was wondering if the Beanstalk ROM is compatible with our Verizon phone. I want to try out something different from Sense but it doesn't say anywhere on the thread whether it's compatible like LeeDrOiD's thread says all carriers compatible.
Thanks
I flashed this ROM 3 days ago and since then my phone has no signal at all. (I have the verizon M8 with Straight Talk) I have bought a new sim and been on the phone with Straight Talk for hours and nothing has fixed it. I would strongly suggest you do not flash this ROM. If you do so, you accept the possible risks.
Beanstalk 7 works fine on my HTC One M8 on Verizon. I'm looking for something else, though...Google Assistant is too slow to respond.
I appreciate any help you experts can give... links and videos. I'm running out of time and don't have enough to research everything... so I hate asking but I have to... I leave in 4 days and this device is still in the box.
My trusty and loved Nexus 6 of 4 years finally burned its charging port out and until the Pixel 3 hits.. I bought an S8 Plus. The model I have is G955u1z an unlocked S8+ I picked up from Best Buy. I hate to admit it but its been so long since I've done any flashing /updating because I had my N6 so well tuned.. that I'm rusty and at a loss of where to begin. Yes I'm searching, yes I'm googling and youtubing but often I am finding methods that aren't for the unlocked version and I don't want to go from box to brick in 3 days. For reference this device will be hooked up to my Verizon account.. I'm still using my N6 for the moment (thankfully it has Qi.. which has kept me from upgrading to a new Nexus or Pixel since). I understand that I will loose Knox.. and Samsung pay. Had to find out what that even was but don't think i would use it anyway.
So what is my first step? Update to the latest stock rom? Install TWRP immediatly? I see that there is something new.. Magisk but I'm not fully grasping it I guess to know if its better than Su, but from what i gather you can hide root from apps with it? Advantages/Disadvanatages? I'm also a dedicated Xposed user also, so that is a must to have. I really prefer the stock android experience but it seems most run the Renovate Ice 3.0 rom? Is there a way to make the other speaker work instead of that downward firing single one? Gesture navigation from the Pixel?
Please pick through guys... if you can help with anything I am in your debt. Just bad luck/bad timing when I should be excited about a new shiny.
mulderato said:
I appreciate any help you experts can give... links and videos. I'm running out of time and don't have enough to research everything... so I hate asking but I have to... I leave in 4 days and this device is still in the box.
My trusty and loved Nexus 6 of 4 years finally burned its charging port out and until the Pixel 3 hits.. I bought an S8 Plus. The model I have is G955u1z an unlocked S8+ I picked up from Best Buy. I hate to admit it but its been so long since I've done any flashing /updating because I had my N6 so well tuned.. that I'm rusty and at a loss of where to begin. Yes I'm searching, yes I'm googling and youtubing but often I am finding methods that aren't for the unlocked version and I don't want to go from box to brick in 3 days. For reference this device will be hooked up to my Verizon account.. I'm still using my N6 for the moment (thankfully it has Qi.. which has kept me from upgrading to a new Nexus or Pixel since). I understand that I will loose Knox.. and Samsung pay. Had to find out what that even was but don't think i would use it anyway.
So what is my first step? Update to the latest stock rom? Install TWRP immediatly? I see that there is something new.. Magisk but I'm not fully grasping it I guess to know if its better than Su, but from what i gather you can hide root from apps with it? Advantages/Disadvanatages? I'm also a dedicated Xposed user also, so that is a must to have. I really prefer the stock android experience but it seems most run the Renovate Ice 3.0 rom? Is there a way to make the other speaker work instead of that downward firing single one? Gesture navigation from the Pixel?
Please pick through guys... if you can help with anything I am in your debt. Just bad luck/bad timing when I should be excited about a new shiny.
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By posting in this section here
mulderato said:
I appreciate any help you experts can give... links and videos. I'm running out of time and don't have enough to research everything... so I hate asking but I have to... I leave in 4 days and this device is still in the box.
My trusty and loved Nexus 6 of 4 years finally burned its charging port out and until the Pixel 3 hits.. I bought an S8 Plus. The model I have is G955u1z an unlocked S8+ I picked up from Best Buy. I hate to admit it but its been so long since I've done any flashing /updating because I had my N6 so well tuned.. that I'm rusty and at a loss of where to begin. Yes I'm searching, yes I'm googling and youtubing but often I am finding methods that aren't for the unlocked version and I don't want to go from box to brick in 3 days. For reference this device will be hooked up to my Verizon account.. I'm still using my N6 for the moment (thankfully it has Qi.. which has kept me from upgrading to a new Nexus or Pixel since). I understand that I will loose Knox.. and Samsung pay. Had to find out what that even was but don't think i would use it anyway.
So what is my first step? Update to the latest stock rom? Install TWRP immediatly? I see that there is something new.. Magisk but I'm not fully grasping it I guess to know if its better than Su, but from what i gather you can hide root from apps with it? Advantages/Disadvanatages? I'm also a dedicated Xposed user also, so that is a must to have. I really prefer the stock android experience but it seems most run the Renovate Ice 3.0 rom? Is there a way to make the other speaker work instead of that downward firing single one? Gesture navigation from the Pixel?
Please pick through guys... if you can help with anything I am in your debt. Just bad luck/bad timing when I should be excited about a new shiny.
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there is 1 rooted rom but no twrp maybe safestrap but we have locked bootloaders so no good
Check out partcyborg rom
Wait...... lol.. you mean that the Snapdragon versions... even carrier unlocked still have locked bootloaders? ohhhhhgod...I can't live with this device in stock form.
mulderato said:
Wait...... lol.. you mean that the Snapdragon versions... even carrier unlocked still have locked bootloaders? ohhhhhgod...I can't live with this device in stock form.
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Yes it's horrible
So recently I got a one plus 7 pro and I love it, however, I can't seem to find any and I mean any custom rom that works with Verizon. What happends is
1: I install the custom rom and everything works except for the mobile carrier. I have no signal.
2: I flash the stock oxygenOS and everything works so it's not my Sim card. I tried an At&t Sim card and I get mobile signal instantly.
3: Has anyone else ran into this issue? If so are there any good stable custom roms for this device that you might know? Please share your wisdom with me !
4: so far I've tried LinageOS, /E degoogled rom and I think the other one was softremix and carbon rom if I'm not mistaken!
Thanks in advances guys
Support is terrible for Verizon, I've been here almost a year. There are some ROMs with support but not many, most mention it within the first few pages.
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Support is terrible for Verizon, I've been here almost a year. There are some ROMs with support but not many, most mention it within the first few pages.
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That's a real shame I love Verizon here, it has great reception man. Is there a forum that shows roms that are okay to use with Verizon OP7P?
Mr.UnknownTech said:
That's a real shame I love Verizon here, it has great reception man. Is there a forum that shows roms that are okay to use with Verizon OP7P?
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Same, Verizon's service is by far the best where I live. Unfortunately not, I asked the same thing when I picked it up. Seems strange but then again Verizon has never played nice with enthusiasts. Most Android 10 ROMs will work with Verizon, all that are based on OOS have seemed to work for me as well. Other than that the only thing I can suggest is searching the thread for "Verizon" and hoping someone has made a report. Good luck, man!
I got you bro thank you ! I'll keep searching and if I find something I'll let you know
calripkenturner said:
Same, Verizon's service is by far the best where I live. Unfortunately not, I asked the same thing when I picked it up. Seems strange but then again Verizon has never played nice with enthusiasts. Most Android 10 ROMs will work with Verizon, all that are based on OOS have seemed to work for me as well. Other than that the only thing I can suggest is searching the thread for "Verizon" and hoping someone has made a report. Good luck, man!
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So today I manually flashed the /e/ degoogled ROM which is Based on android 10 linageos and it works perfectly with my Verizon one plus 7 pro. Maybe linageos 17 will work with Verizon