Hardbuttons vs softbuttons - General Questions and Answers

I'm getting a new phone and right now I'm deciding between Mate 10 Lite and Honor 9.
What interests me in the Mate 10 Lite is the bigger screen. What interests me in the Honor 9 is the hardbuttons. Generally I don't like not having any hardbuttons because they come in handy if the GUI crashes etc.
But are hardbuttons super necessary according to you guys? I just want to see if I can be convinced to eschew hardbuttons for a bigger screen
Sorry if this is the wrong section for this kind of thread.

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Looking at the Mate 8

Despite some ups and downs along the way, I've been quite happy with the Note Edge. I actually use a Note 4 port on it so I do not have the Edge side features. I prefer having the entire width of the screen to work with (although I do miss tiny burgers!). As it turns out, the width of Note Edge screen is about the same as the Mate 8, but it is about 1 cm shorter then the typical 6" screen. I've gotten so used to the wider screen I don't want to go down to a narrower phone. So I'm interested in some of the new crop of 6" phones. Seems like the Mate 8 is one of the better models. Anybody thinking of going that route? Any comments about the device or Huawei support or development for these devices? Thanks
mscion said:
Despite some ups and downs along the way, I've been quite happy with the Note Edge. I actually use a Note 4 port on it so I do not have the Edge side features. I prefer having the entire width of the screen to work with (although I do miss tiny burgers!). As it turns out, the width of Note Edge screen is about the same as the Mate 8, but it is about 1 cm shorter then the typical 6" screen. I've gotten so used to the wider screen I don't want to go down to a narrower phone. So I'm interested in some of the new crop of 6" phones. Seems like the Mate 8 is one of the better models. Anybody thinking of going that route? Any comments about the device or Huawei support or development for these devices? Thanks
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i have p8max and it is abeast power horse phablet it is way faster and smoother than my old note 4
i think the mate 8 will be fantastic phone :laugh:
rowihel2012 said:
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i have p8max and it is abeast power horse phablet it is way faster and smoother than my old note 4
i think the mate 8 will be fantastic phone :laugh:
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Wow! Talk about big screen. That beast has a 6.8" screen. According to GSMarena, its next iteration, the p9max, will be shrunk down to 6.2". Might have a better screen and camera than Mate 8. May be worth the wait.
My wife has the P8 and really likes it.
You wont ever be able to use xposed, so that might be a consideration.
Otherwise, the phone is really nice and the camera seems great.
They is very little development for them though.
I think there is only 1 ROM for the P8, and none for others - like the P8lite.
So, if you love modding your phone with custom ROMs and xposed, I would shy away from Huawei.
Speaking of tiny burgers, what happened to it. I can't find it anywhere. I got my phone 5 months ago and it was on 5.0.1 but even then, I don't remember the game being there
Looks like it will be offered in US
http://www.gsmarena.com/wsj_huawei_to_launch_mate_8_in_us_next_year-news-15570.php
Giving it some serious thought...

Honor 9 vs Huawei P10

Hi,
I'm stuck between these two choices. Honor 9 or Huawei P10? Which one should be a better go?
I wrote down some of the advantages of both devices as I'm aware of.
P10 - (probably) a better camera with Leica certification, smaller (better grip), fast charging, if you're lucky enough you get faster memory typ, VIP service (1 year extra warranty), gorilla glass 5 (which I honestly don't care because I'm gonna protect it with tempered glass anyway)
Honor 9 - buttons under the display (this is probably the best thing I like on it), IR blaster, (probably?) the better battery type (Li-Po), a little bit bigger screen, fast charging (only first 50% though)
I read somewhere that P10 should be faster with the updates but I'm not sure about that. As for software/hardware it should be at the same level.
Which one would you recommend and why? Thanks in advance.
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The price is actually the same. ~ 460€ for both (EU).
Well as for aesthetic I really don't care about it because I'm gonna put a case on it anyway and I like the design of both. Actually the only thing I'm keeping me eye on Honor 9 is because its HW buttons. Although I'm used to SW buttons (I've been using it for past 2 years).
P10 should be more crack resistant, faster storage if you're lucky and SuperCharge
(I'm not into rooting)
Honor 9! Its the better P10
Go with the p10 if you value camera, because it has OIS unlike honor 9.
Also faster storage.
Thanks for your input guys. I think I'm gonna get Honor 9 because the HW buttons is just a great feature to have. That's something you're using constantly.
I would go for the honor 9 basically for the community development
Rommco05 said:
Yes hw buttons are so good + full size of display
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Yeah exactly my words plus it's so much comfortable that way. This pretty much got me.
I'm eagerly waiting to try the 3-in-1 home button
Well I'll use it for a while, just for the sake of differntiation.
I read somewhere that left/right button swipe on P10 for "recent apps" isn't very responsive and many times reacts as a "back button" instead. So it's not that great feature overall. That's why all 3 HW buttons is much comfortable and makes your life easier. Like I said it's something that you're using constantly everyday, every minute.
Imo on screen software buttons are only acceptable if your device is bezel-less (with 18:9 aspect ratio in the best scenario like G6, S8).
I agree with you on these points
If you want a device with a metal construction I would go with the Huawei P10. Otherwise I would go with the Honor 9 as they have similar specs. But the Honor 9 does have a beautiful glass and metal sandwich construction.
I went with the P10 Plus instead of a Honor 9. Using the fingerprint reader as an all-in-one button actually works great. I can't say if it's better then the two on the Honor 9, but you probably will be just as happy with the P10 solution. Only real upside of the Honor 9 solution is easier access to split screen, but most of us probably don't use that feature too much.
I would say go for the P10.
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I was torn between these 2 phones a while back after I sold my Honor 8. With discount code I could buy either one from local online store at almost the same price. After a week of reading reviews, watching youtube comparisons etc, I decided to go for the honor 9 simply because of 2 reasons. Hardware keys and IR blaster.
pijes said:
I was torn between these 2 phones a while back after I sold my Honor 8. With discount code I could buy either one from local online store at almost the same price. After a week of reading reviews, watching youtube comparisons etc, I decided to go for the honor 9 simply because of 2 reasons. Hardware keys and IR blaster.
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The P10 also has a hardware key. It's just implemented differently from other hardware key styles
iceepyon said:
The P10 also has a hardware key. It's just implemented differently from other hardware key styles
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I don't really like the implementation. I just prefer the old fashion way (3 different buttons).
The P10 fingerprint scanner acts like hardware buttons and is actually very intuitive - I've been using it for a week now:
- one tap to go back
- long press to go Home
- swipe left or right to bring up list of open apps
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I don't really like the implementation. I just prefer the old fashion way (3 different buttons).
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It's actually not that bad once you get use to it. I actually find Huawei's implementation of the hardware button on the P10 as pretty good. When compared to past similar iterations of the same single button style.
Does quick app switching work with that one key solution on Huawei P10? I always use this double tap on multitasking button to switch to the last app, since I have Nougat.

So Huawei Mate 9 vs Samsung Note 8 ?

So has anyone ordered a Note 8 yet? I have Mate 9 (since Jan '17) and its awesome, but and it is a big BUT, that AMOLED display!! No doubt, that Samsung has some of the best displays in the business.
Everything in Mate 9 works as expected, the finger print reader is super fast, the battery life is amazing generally speaking. It charges fast, the UI is responsive. The camera is half decent. It just works.
I wanted to started a conversation around the idea, if it is worthwhile moving from Mate 9 to Note 8 ? Or perhaps wait for Mate 10?? Yeah lets throw that in too!
bym007 said:
So has anyone ordered a Note 8 yet? I have Mate 9 (since Jan '17) and its awesome, but and it is a big BUT, that AMOLED display!! No doubt, that Samsung has some of the best displays in the business.
Everything in Mate 9 works as expected, the finger print reader is super fast, the battery life is amazing generally speaking. It charges fast, the UI is responsive. The camera is half decent. It just works.
I wanted to started a conversation around the idea, if it is worthwhile moving from Mate 9 to Note 8 ? Or perhaps wait for Mate 10?? Yeah lets throw that in too!
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I wait for V30. Huawei Mate 10 with IP68 is my favorite too but I need Knock on and Mate 9 not have this function. Amoled not important for me. Photo quality, IPxy and knock on are more important for me.
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I'm waiting for Mate 10 and Mate 10 Pro, those are the only two phones that are worth waiting, the S8 and Note 8 have nothing to offer.
I just switched from a Note 4 to the Mate 9 and love it. Yes there are some drawbacks but its nothing a little big of tweaking cant fix for me anyway. I looked at the price of the Note 8 and was like NOPE...Was on my 2nd Note 4 with the eMMC issue and didn't want to spend $1200 plus tax for the Note 8. Picked up the Mat e9 for $749 taxes in (Half price!)
Derpling said:
I'm waiting for Mate 10 and Mate 10 Pro, those are the only two phones that are worth waiting, the S8 and Note 8 have nothing to offer.
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I crave the AMOLED screens on the Samsungs. That would actually make my Mate 9 complete...
Came from the Note 4 to the Mate 9. Still have my Note running S8 ROM port. I have considered the Note 8 but, the battery life for one would be less than the Mate 9 which is absolutely stellar. The price is another issue. The wrap around screen is not for me on the Note 8. I like a firm solid phone, too. The note feels good but very delicate if dropped. I'm staying with my Mate 9. I went through a period of thinking maybe getting rid but nope, it's my right hand man. Probably the best phone I have ever owned. 128gb, 6gb Mate 9.
bym007 said:
I crave the AMOLED screens on the Samsungs. That would actually make my Mate 9 complete...
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I though i was the same, but the Mate 9 screen is great as an IPS LCD, however if u still want AMOLED, Mate 10 pro is the version you want, shame it will be 1100$ if rumors are right.
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btblue said:
Came from the Note 4 to the Mate 9. Still have my Note running S8 ROM port. I have considered the Note 8 but, the battery life for one would be less than the Mate 9 which is absolutely stellar. The price is another issue. The wrap around screen is not for me on the Note 8. I like a firm solid phone, too. The note feels good but very delicate if dropped. I'm staying with my Mate 9. I went through a period of thinking maybe getting rid but nope, it's my right hand man. Probably the best phone I have ever owned. 128gb, 6gb Mate 9.
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There is no phone that serves as a true upgrade over Mate 9, in fact the Mate 9 is better than all flagship in terms of battery life and performance.
Someone tested the Note 8 on ppsspp emulator, playing Tekken DR and it worked poor as on my S7E, on mine Mate 9, it runs 60fps solid and Tekken 6 as well, that shows that Samsung is throttling the device on purpose via DVFS, another reason to stay away for me.
Derpling said:
I though i was the same, but the Mate 9 screen is great as an IPS LCD, however if u still want AMOLED, Mate 10 pro is the version you want, shame it will be 1100$ if rumors are right.
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Not looking to go into $1000 category currently, however, I do wish for a AMOLED display.
Derpling said:
There is no phone that serves as a true upgrade over Mate 9, in fact the Mate 9 is better than all flagship in terms of battery life and performance.
Someone tested the Note 8 on ppsspp emulator, playing Tekken DR and it worked poor as on my S7E, on mine Mate 9, it runs 60fps solid and Tekken 6 as well, that shows that Samsung is throttling the device on purpose via DVFS, another reason to stay away for me.
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Totally agree the battery aspect, since no flagship of 2017 came anywhere near 4000mAH battery.
The accu is me to small, this is the main reason for me to buy huawei and no edge displays.
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I'll wait for the Note 9.
The Mate 9 is too excellent to give up just yet.
Even the Matte 10 can wait for the 11
I went from Note Edge (the first one) to Huawei Mate 9. It took a little while to adjust plus I still miss the pen but I find that as time goes on I have really grown to like the Mate 9. Battery and speed and memory are top notch. There have been several good updates with camera improvements. I'm sure the Note 8 is a great phone but I really hate the idea of a 18.5 to 9 screen. It appears that the Mate 10 will now go to a 18:9 screen. I'd rather Huawei keep the same aspect ratio of Mate 9 and maybe slightly increase diagonal. Regardless, I'd rather wait to bump up to a Mate 10 than purchase a Note 8, especially if Huawei continues to improve camera.
bym007 said:
Not looking to go into $1000 category currently, however, I do wish for a AMOLED display.
Totally agree the battery aspect, since no flagship of 2017 came anywhere near 4000mAH battery.
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I'll get the Mate 10 Pro probably, or Mate 10 if price will be really 1100$, nonetheless i know many people that stormed on the S8, and quickly got back to the Mate 9 never to look back.
Just today i played Angry Birds 2 and Tekken 6, so smooth, no performance issues, while both lagged, with Tekken 6 being unplayable on the Note8 and S8+.
If you have another last years flagship I'd say get the note 8 because it has the latest hardware. If you have the mate 9 now I wouldn't switch, this phone is just so great, amazing camera which really invites you to play with the settings in pro mode.
It has great battery life, I play alot of elder scrolls legends on this phone and it's allows me to play for hours and hours. My screen on times swing between 9 and 10 hours. Pretty impressive I would say.
I came from a nexus 6 so the Amoled vs lcd debate I can understand. I do prefer lcd tho.
OK, it doesn't have the true blacks and color saturation that Amoled has but it has great color reproduction and best if all, no navbar/statusbar burnins, hooray! This thing also gets very bright in daylight so it's very usable in direct sunlight.
I would say, swap this device only for the to be revealed mate 10.
Huawei is known for improving its phones year by year. The mate 9 was a good step up from the mate 8 as the mate 8 was from the mate 7. I'll be guessing it will be very speedy, have a great battery life and a great screen, Amoled or even lcd. The camera will be improved the most I think, this Leica coop has been working out great for Huawei and the camera's improve with every new phone. The p10 plus has a decent low light camera, guessing the mate 10 will be better in every aspect.
Time will tell, my next mate device will be a mate 11 tho, can't wait to be 1 year ahead of this one.
VALUE, that's what I'm after
Is it "better" I guess depends on what you want out of your device.
"Better" can be described as faster, more power, or simply a faux feeling
of "better".
Personally, I think most smartphones are OVER priced, for MY value.
That's why I don't buy a new phone when they are released. I "wait it out".
Typically, phones have a bug or two, be it software or hardware, when released.
I WAIT until a "new" version is announced and ready for release, then, start watching
for the price of last years new model. The Mate 9 was (USA) around 900 dollars when
released. I bought one this week, for $449.00
I find that if you buy the LAST of the so called new one, when another new one comes
out, I get a better value for my money. Granted, 99.9% of cell phone manufacturers
are late/never update their phone firmware. But, at least for the last 3 Huawei phones
I've owned (Mate 2,8,9) have been very stable with the firmware they ship with, so, for
my use, it doesn't matter. I don't play games, 3d anything, but, I do a TON of talking
(around 2,000 minutes per month), text, web (work), video, mp3's, streaming. I don't
turn it off at night, runs MONTHS between reboots, great life, so the version of firmware
doesn't bother me. But, I don't think the "higher end" phones, so to speak are a good
value, because when you look at build costs, of even the super high end devices of
around $300, but command over $1,000? That's nuts! Personally, I think it is because
the fashion designers/hipsters have taken over the industry. Now, what's the first thing
you hear when someone announces/displays a phone?
Oh! Look how slim, colorful & stylish it is! We hired bla bla bla fashion designer to design
the phone. (Um...how much "style" can you make out of a rectangular slab of plastic, glass &
metal??). Phones are overpowered, have way to many megapixels on the super tiny camera
sensor and on and on, to justify the price increase. As long as consumers continue to buy
into it, can't blame the manufacturers that are catering to it.
Me, I'm kind of like the old story of the two bulls on top of the hill, overlooking a heard of
cows below. The young bull asks the old bull, hey...how about we run down there and screw
some cows. The OLD bull says, son, why down we creep down there SLOWLY and screw em
all.
Sometimes slow is better, for me, especially when it comes to spending my hard earned money.
I had a mate 9 earlier in the year, got a note 8.
Note 8 has a great camera but i just do not like using it, it is absolutely not worth the price they are asking. Rather use my 7 plus or Xz Premium over it. XZp would be my DD if the camera didnt suck.
My p10 plus can barely hit 3 hours SOT so it sits on the desk, huge disappointment. Should have kept the mate 9.

Favorite/Least Favorite Features of the Honor 9?

Favorite/Least Favorite Features of the Honor 9​
After having my Honor 9 for several months now, I can create a decent list of all of my favorite features as well as my least favorite. I'll start with my list, and then you can feel free to add your own list in the comments.
Favorite Features
Camera
If you haven't seen the camera on the Honor 9 in action, check out this video to what what it's capable of.
Performance
The Honor 9 is actually one of the fastest phones ever. Even with the EMUI software, this phone will out-perform almost any other phone when it comes to speeed.
Design
I feel like the Honor 9 nailed the look that the Honor 8 was going for. The way the phone reflects light makes the phone stand out from any other device. It's probably my favorite looking phone ever.
Least Favorite Features
UI
The UI of Honor phones has always been something that really bugs me. The icons are just bad, the wallpapers are bad, and the color scheme is bad. Luckily this is fixed with a custom launcher with a new icon pack, but it would be nice to see Honor redesign the way EMUI looks.
Water Resistance
I think water resistance is a must-have for any flagship phone now. It sucks that the Honor 9 didn't get a water resistant upgrade.
For 400€ I can live without water resistance. The positive things on the phone are good enough to make me able to ignore that one thing (and this includes everything you said in the favorite feature part). Also, I don't see much of the UI because I use Google apps for most apps and I am also using an own theme. For me, battery and software update support is the bigger problem.

Has anyone moved from the Mate 9 to the Mate 10?

So, I had the opportunity to check out the Mate 10.
The screen is - a little bland!
It's not as bright, and it's very difficult to make out the higher resolution.
Also, there's something not quite ok with the icon/font size arrangement....bits of the OS look too big and out of place.
It feels beautiful in the hand... Very solid... But then again, so does the Mate 9. It IS very fast to use, though. L
The experience with the camera was also VERY similar.
I think perhaps Huawei is using this phone to address the US market, so there's not very much difference.
You can hardly tell the difference with the bezels either, the Mate 9 is already so good.
It's convinced me to wait until next year to upgrade.
Anyone else?
I'd love to hear from those who made the switch up...what is it like living with the Mate 10?

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