Ok there are a lot of intelligent people, developers and what not on this forum and I am very sure someone has to know... is it possible to reset the unlock code tries on our android devices? We are able to do so much do I really hope it is possible (im asking this for my Motorola Backflip). I have no intention of rooting or unlocking my infuse right now.
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KingVekxin said:
Ok there are a lot of intelligent people, developers and what not on this forum and I am very sure someone has to know... is it possible to reset the unlock code tries on our android devices? We are able to do so much do I really hope it is possible (im asking this for my Motorola Backflip). I have no intention of rooting or unlocking my infuse right now.
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Dont mean to be mean on you but.... why did you post something for your motorola backflip here
You come asking for intelligent people and good devs... if you ask on the Infuse forum.... probably they know about the Infuse right...
Still you probably are spreading the question on various forums to see if you get help on any? idk :S
And far as i know if you exceed the limit of tries it will "freeze" the phone and you gotta go get it unfrezed or get the freeze code to unfreze it lol and im not sure ALL phones have a limit in trys.... anyways... they are almost always about 10 tries... why would yo use them all?? are you GUESSING the unlock code??
Pay 20 dlls to have a database searcher business get you the code...
here try this one:
http://www.gsm-unlock.com/
or this one:
http://www.gsmliberty.net/shop/
or hey why not:
http://www.gsmunlock.com/
But dont guess the code... its 99.99% you will use those 10 tries if you guess it... and also only samsung hides its network codes withing each phone as far as i know... so call motorola... call att call tmobile or whoever carrier you got on the moto backflip and ask for the code they should be able to guide you man.
Hope its something.
KingVekxin said:
Ok there are a lot of intelligent people, developers and what not on this forum and I am very sure someone has to know... is it possible to reset the unlock code tries on our android devices? We are able to do so much do I really hope it is possible (im asking this for my Motorola Backflip). I have no intention of rooting or unlocking my infuse right now.
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Hi all,
I've been quite happy with my TF300, but after RMA (like many, many, MANY before me), there's no way to unlock the bootloader. I know there have been numerous threads here on XDA, and they all end in "It can't be done, unless you have some sort of genious working for you". So: I went out and got myself a genious!
Dan J. Rosenberg, The one who unlocked the Moto bootloader, made -through motochopper- root available for our RMA'd TF300's, the genious himself. I've been in touch with him through e-mail, and basically he's more than willing to have a look at our bootloader. For him it's just another hobby
...But... I'm not a dev in any sense. I'm just a user who wants freedom when it comes to his purchase. And now the e-mails get technical. So I need your help, my dearest XDA'ers!
Here's the e-mail I received from him:
"I'd be happy to take a look at your bootloader, but I can't make any
promises, since it's entirely possible Asus has implemented the unlock
process in a cryptographically strong way that is impossible to bypass.
Would you be able to pull the boot partition from your device and send
it to me? Let me know if you need instructions on how to do this."
Is there anyone out here able to help me out??!
I guess if there is ANYONE out there who can do this, Dan is the man. Let's do this!
If your tablet went through RMA you can't unlock it? Seriously?
Sphinix said:
"I'd be happy to take a look at your bootloader, but I can't make any
promises, since it's entirely possible Asus has implemented the unlock
process in a cryptographically strong way that is impossible to bypass.
Would you be able to pull the boot partition from your device and send
it to me? Let me know if you need instructions on how to do this."
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Our bootloaders encrypted which is probably what he means.
Also the bootloader has changed from version 4.0 to 4.1 to 4.2!
It would be interesting to find out if you can do a brute force attack to try and work out the keys.
I've always been curious about the way the developers/"hackers" actually root/unlock the phone. It seems that many release their rooting/bootloader unlocks but never explain how they did so. Why is that?
It just doesn't make sense that people go through all the work and never explain the how and what...So, my question to all of the bootloader/root developers is; how did you figure it out/get it working/un hard brick/etc. your phone? What exactly did you do to root/unlock your phone?
Note: I'm referring not to the '1-click' utilities that people use, but rather to the people who made them (Just to avoid confusion).
The only resource I've found on how someone unlocked a bootloader is the azimuth security blog post on unlocking the Atrix HD bootloader (I can't post a link)
Yes, I would like to know this as well. What little I do know, is that Developers use SDK/Android tools for the rooting (and as far as I know, unlocking the bootloader) process.
I'll admit my guilt in not searching XDA for these answers, but hopefully someone will chime in and give us a path to follow.
is that mean we must mastering java languange to be able modifying? or is there anothar way?
From reading this forum daily, it seems to me that toolkits are doing more harm than good. The Nexus has to be the easiest device there is to unlock and root, yet these toolkits are encouraging people to tinker who frankly have no idea what the hell they're doing, and when they inevitably bork their device and the toolkit can't fix it, they come here for help. We try to help them in earnest, but because they know absolutely nothing, even with guidance, they still can't fix it.
How do I get fastboot to work in recovery?
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Bootloader, what's a bootloader?
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You mean everything will be erased?
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Wait how do I unlock the bootloader?
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It doesn't work when I adb the factory image.
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And so on, and so forth. I'm not saying this to be mean or mock anyone, but if you can't follow simple instructions to unlock and root without the assistance of a toolkit, then you shouldn't be modding in the first place. The Nexus 5 is very easy to mod, and very difficult to hard-brick, you just have to know what you're doing. If you know what you're doing, then when you run into trouble, you'll most likely be able to fix it without any help, and even if you do need help, you'll actually understand how to do what people are telling you to do to fix it.
im probably the #1 proponent against root toolkits. there's way too much grief for many that use them. but, they shouldnt be banned. the problem is when people that are new to modding use them. these people mostly dont educate themselves as well. so when the have the tiniest of issues, or when some simple upkeep needs to be done, they are lost. and many times end up doing worse things to their phone. for the user that knows about the phone, and modding, they are fine. essentially, its not the root toolkit thats the issue, but the users themselves. of course, sometimes the root toolkits create their own issues, but i wont go there.
Its a tricky one. Sometimes when im struggling with drivers, a toolkit can help me out BUT there's the issue of new user's doing things they dont understand....whilst not learning ....
Personally I think we need to try and educate people against them but I've needed their help in the past
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I don't think the issue is tool kits, I agree that they aren't necessary, but nobody seems to want to learn these days. Everyone seems to want something right now and feels entitled to an answer. It's not only here but in society too. But enough of that.
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I don't think the issue is tool kits, I agree that they aren't necessary, but nobody seems to want to learn these days. Everyone seems to want something right now and feels entitled to an answer. It's not only here but in society too. But enough of that.
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Lol was about to post the exact same comment. Props jd1639
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What about facepalm rumrunner juopunut bear etc etc.. Those are all basically toolkits that handle multiple things like root s-off unlock compacted down to a few quick clicks made easy for the very technical exploits and unlocks?? Where one wrong key entry could potentially brick a device. That goes for experienced and inexperienced users. I think they are a good idea but in no way shape or form think that a user shouldn't be uneducated in what they are doing. If you are here then you should read and thoroughly understand what you are doing and know exactly why you are here!
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Its a tricky one. Sometimes when im struggling with drivers, a toolkit can help me out BUT there's the issue of new user's doing things they dont understand....whilst not learning ....
Personally I think we need to try and educate people against them but I've needed their help in the past
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Agreed, especially on windows 7 when you have a Samsung device and a nexus and the drivers conflict.
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But that is the point. A toolkit should be for the automaton of difficult, lengthy or risky processes.
Processes such as unlocking the bootloader
Fastboot OEM unlock
And flashing recoveries
Fastboot flash recovery xyz.img
Flashing factory image
Double click flashall.bat
Should never be included in any toolkit. Period.
There should be a basic level of understanding before doing anything but as has been said. People are becoming more and more stupid and don't want to understand what is actually happening.
I do feel sorry for us main few who are often actively attending these posts on xda.
Fingers point at the direction of Simms and rootsu who I often see answering the same stupid questions over and over.
What is happening to humanity!
I can understand if access to information is not available but there is plenty of documentation about how to do pretty much everything in this day and age but people don't seem to want to learn.
Enough ranting as nothing will change.
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I wrote a similar thread 2 years ago. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909
Things have definitely gotten better since then. The people who actively remind new users about using fastboot and adb instead has increased. However, there are still a ton of panic threads about things people should know before they unlock and root their phone.
I don't think they should be banned, however it do disagree with them being featured on the Nexus 5 main page. They do have their place, just not for new users.
El Daddy said:
I wrote a similar thread 2 years ago. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909
Things have definitely gotten better since then. The people who actively remind new users about using fastboot and adb instead has increased. However, there are still a ton of panic threads about things people should know before they unlock and root their phone.
I don't think they should be banned, however it do disagree with them being featured on the Nexus 5 main page. They do have their place, just not for new users.
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i have an issue with xda letting them post toolkits in the development sections
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i have an issue with xda letting them post toolkits in the development sections
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Very good point!
Imo depends on the phone somethings are really difficult as oems try to make it possible to mod. On some lower end devices the only way I found to root was to use some form of toolkit. Used them on HTC devices not because I don't know how to use fastboot or because I don't know how to go to HTC Dev unlock it's just all in one convenient step. In the past setting up adb was more confusing as the guids were terrible if your a beginner. Thankfully guids are much more easier to understand and its a breeze.
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When I first wanted to root my nexus I asked about the toolkit. I received instant responses regarding the issues using them with explanations why. I immediately reviewed chromiums guide to rooting our device the "right" way with fastboot and adb. I am grateful for the information a received on that original post after seeing tons of issues on this forum with using toolkits.
I would suggest that one of our more experienced and knowledgeable users here create a sticky on the disadvantages of tool kits and fully explain why good old fastboot and adb is the way to go. I think it might have a positive impact on new comers to this forum who would usually fall back to a toolkit to root their nexus, just as I almost did!!!
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My first root was done with a toolkit on my old Xperia X8 and through that I've learned tremendously. Idiots will be idiots but if you don't let those who want to learn get their feet wet without jumping in headfirst many won't even attempt. Plus, that X8 was a difficult device.
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I don't think they should be banned. I do however think that the majority of toolkit users should be banned from using them.
Toolkits are like chainsaws. Their fast and convenient but sometimes not the best choice. Got to go now. I have a box of toothpicks that needs sharpening.
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Root both my nexus 5 using wug. Why would I want it banned. Best thing that ever happened. I am not an android genius so ....
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kenpen said:
Root both my nexus 5 using wug. Why would I want it banned. Best thing that ever happened. I am not an android genius so ....
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You don't need a degree to type seven words in a command prompt and flash a file in recovery.
Toolkits are part of the problem, not part of the solution. They encourage laziness.
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You don't need a degree to type seven words in a command prompt and flash a file in recovery.
Toolkits are part of the problem, not part of the solution. They encourage laziness.
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I definitely agree with you as well as pretty much everything that's been said. Nexus is very, very easy to root (providing you can follow steps properly). I'm personally against tool kits but it mostly depends on the situation. For example, adb on a Nexus, o god.... Got it to work but a lot more work than I would've wanted to :/ However, it was a good learning experience.
On my old phone, HTC Incredible S, we had to do a downgrade to S-OFF and I can understand a toolkit that automates most of it. I would say that's the one time a tool kit has been mqajorly beneficial because if users manually entered the code in, there'd be a lot of questions
But on a device like nexus, why would you need a tool kit. I don't see an issue where the procedure for performin X task is very complicated but when it is downright simple like on a Nexus device, I see it doing a lot more harm than good. I would say ban tool kits in Nexus forums at least
Nah, don't ban em. The bricked threads are so much fun to read.
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I've tried looking around online and whatnot and have asked many people (even going as far as to email Samsung's team in hopes they might help out somehow) but I always end up back at square one. I genuinely doubt that it's impossible, but I don't know where else to go or what else to do. Does anybody know of a device with a similar situation that I might be able to work a method off of? Perhaps another Samsung device previously thought of to be "impossible to unlock" that I may learn something from? I'd really love to be able to unlock and root and flash this device, as its hardware is quite nice and fast: it's just unfortunate that it gets stuck with OneUI (I know everyone has different opinions on the matter, but I just really don't like Samsung's OS, personally).
Any help or guidance or advice - no matter how small - will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.
you are not having the able to unlock the locked phone that has locked bootloader because they don't wnat you to unlock your phone
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you are not having the able to unlock the locked phone that has locked bootloader because they don't wnat you to unlock your phone
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Realme RMX2155 was previously thought to be not unlockable for awhile but somebody ended up cracking it via editing firmware files via hexeditor and some other stuff. Eventually, somebody found an even easier exploit. It's not quite the same as the A53, which is why I'm asking if anybody has any ideas. Tons of unofficial methods exist for different models - some easier and some more difficult. If everybody thought that an official method had to be the only way, I'm near-certain XDA forums would be mostly dead with only a few device-forums active.
I've asked on here previously about unlocking the bootloader for my A536U, but it really went to dead ends. The best asset to cracking these devices is time. Just be patient, someone may find an exploit soon.
Although, finding an exploit has been done for phones, I read years ago that someone who did that for one only got it by chance. Its not easy.
Anyone however can sell it or trade it in and buy a device that's unlockable. Much easier.