Hi guys! Reading on the internet I saw that all the smartphones that natively mount android oreo 8.0 will support Project Treble and consequently the possibility to mount this particular type of custom rom. My question is: if Honor 8 will be updated to Oreo, will the compatibility of the project be extended to this device too?
I ask this because I have also read that most of the tests have been carried out on the new 960/70 kirins mounted in the most recent devices. Thank you in advance
First we have to get the Oreo Update, but even if we get it, it doesn't mean that we will get Treble support, every Phone that comes out with Oreo is forced to support it. Right now, the Oreo custom Rom Supports treble if I remember correctly.
Correct me if i am wrong but doesnt Honor 8 already have separate vendor partition?
Also we have custom O Rom in the forums with Treble support included
Honor already has a vendor partition similar to the one in android oreo, thats why its very easy for honor to support project treble for their devices even if they did not come out with oreo. All honor/huawei devices that get the oreo update will support treble. If you look for example in the Honor 8 Pro section, you will notice that there are Roms that support treble, the same will happen to the honor 8 when/if we finally get the oreo update.
Lukke2804 said:
Honor already has a vendor partition similar to the one in android oreo, thats why its very easy for honor to support project treble for their devices even if they did not come out with oreo. All honor/huawei devices that get the oreo update will support treble. If you look for example in the Honor 8 Pro section, you will notice that there are Roms that support treble, the same will happen to the honor 8 when/if we finally get the oreo update.
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As soon as we get Oreo, custom rom support will be easier right?
Leon Lambra said:
As soon as we get Oreo, custom rom support will be easier right?
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Yes. And i think it will bring us also the same camera quality as on stock and support for 60fps Video.
Rommco05 said:
Are you sure? I do not think the camera wil be the same quality as the stock cam in custom rom
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Well i am not a developer so i am not sure, but i asked in the development threat if the camera will be the same quality as stock and the developer said yes. I mean all hardware drivers are in a separate partition so it should include the camera right? But i dont think we will have as many camera features on custom roms because they dont use the stock camera app.
Rommco05 said:
I'm also not a developer. But when I know the camera, drivers are needed and they only have Huawei
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Yeah and the drivers and all that stuff are in the seperate partition... But i guess we will find that out when/if the honor 8 gets oreo..
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So with this new Treble breakthrough, I can see it is very important for ROM development, but only devices that ship with Oreo and some that get updated to it will have it.
Is the Honor 6X getting Treble when the Oreo update arrives, or is it unknown?
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So with this new Treble breakthrough, I can see it is very important for ROM development, but only devices that ship with Oreo and some that get updated to it will have it.
Is the Honor 6X getting Treble when the Oreo update arrives, or is it unknown?
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Its big brother, the Mate 9, got it, and that didn't ship with Oreo. https://www.xda-developers.com/stock-android-oreo-huawei-mate-9-project-treble/
But OnePlus devices won't get treble. So much for them being better development devices.
PloniAlmoni said:
Its big brother, the Mate 9, got it, and that didn't ship with Oreo. https://www.xda-developers.com/stock-android-oreo-huawei-mate-9-project-treble/
But OnePlus devices won't get treble. So much for them being better development devices.
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Yeah I knew about Mate 9. I guess thr only way is to wait and see if Huawei gives some love to this device...
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loll...1st of all- let our device get oreo...
sreekantt said:
loll...1st of all- let our device get oreo...
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They will only get treble to this device in the same update as Oreo, I seriously doubt they would do that later.
(If they do update this device to Oreo)
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DarkAlpha.Sete said:
They will only get treble to this device in the same update as Oreo, I seriously doubt they would do that later.
(If they do update this device to Oreo)
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Allost huawei phones got support to treble who got updated to oreo....6x would be no exception i gues...hope huawei fulfills it promise by giving oreo
sreekantt said:
Allost huawei phones got support to treble who got updated to oreo....6x would be no exception i gues...hope huawei fulfills it promise by giving oreo
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Huawei probably will do it because this is a fairly good device in some way,but there is also that chance that she won't because this is not any top of the line phone...
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DarkAlpha.Sete said:
Huawei probably will do it because this is a fairly good device in some way,but there is also that chance that she won't because this is not any top of the line phone...
Sent from my Honor 6X using XDA Labs
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yeah...it's absolutely steal for money i paid ....emui 5.0 kinda messed up performance & overly done ram management - when i tried emui 5.1 on this device- performance was buttery smooth...it was night & day difference compared to 5.0
its pretty much capable but just frustrating experience as of now with emui 5.0 & zero stable custom roms as of now
The only way our device will get Treble is if it supports the dual partition like on the Pixel phones. Maybe a Dev can tell us if this device supports that since it cannot be done via OTA updates.
Amirk365 said:
The only way our device will get Treble is if it supports the dual partition like on the Pixel phones. Maybe a Dev can tell us if this device supports that since it cannot be done via OTA updates.
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Nope, Mate 9 got treble support and it doesn't have dual partition, Xperia XZ1 & XZ1 Compact doesn't have dual partition and it is launched with Oreo and project Treble.
In my opinion the 6X will get treble with Oreo, because Honor already have a separate Vendor partition that's required for project treble
PalakMi said:
Nope, Mate 9 got treble support and it doesn't have dual partition, Xperia XZ1 & XZ1 Compact doesn't have dual partition and it is launched with Oreo and project Treble.
In my opinion the 6X will get treble with Oreo, because Honor already have a separate Vendor partition that's required for project treble
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I'm seeing other companies reporting that it could brick their devices doing the dual partition over the air. Thanks for the info though.
Amirk365 said:
I'm seeing other companies reporting that it could brick their devices doing the dual partition over the air. Thanks for the info though.
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You're welcome
I hope so
Does view 10 support project treble? If it does will it receive updates faster?
It should support Project Treble as it is must have for phones launched with Oreo. Updates, not sure though.
Yes it does support treble..
mahesh2040 said:
Yes it does support treble..
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So it will get updates for 3 years right?
MobFreak2799 said:
So it will get updates for 3 years right?
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Nope.. project treble is just a thing for speeding up process of software updates by separating vendor and OEM as in partition for vendor... So OEM "can" directly provide update without waiting for vendor driver codes. But this "can" is totally depend on OEM ... If they want or not to provide updates??? except google and xiaomi not many OEM provide update to devices older than 2 years.
But if honor view 10 made properly open sourced, then at least this device can receive XDA devs support for next 4 years???
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So it will get updates for 3 years right?
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Lol, that's amusing... Just look at the Honor 8 and rest of the line up that receive one major update then are done.
Honor has already released sources for view 10.
It is just matter of the time to get AoSP and LOS based roms.
Once we get to stable custom roms, then Dev's can able to port future android releases easily because of this Treble.
So it looks like the OpenKirin site is finally here and they have their Lineage based ROMs available for download.
Now it does say the 970 is a supported chipset, but it doesn't list the P20/Pro as a device.
From what I can see it looks like EMUI camera and gallery are fully supported.
I'm not rooted etc. but does anyone know who's working on this project or if it can be tested on our device at all?
Would be keen to see a nice working Lineage ROM with full support of the EMUI camera.
Here's the site: OpenKirin.net
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So it looks like the OpenKirin site is finally here and they have their Lineage based ROMs available for download.
Now it does say the 970 is a supported chipset, but it doesn't list the P20/Pro as a device.
From what I can see it looks like EMUI camera and gallery are fully supported.
I'm not rooted etc. but does anyone know who's working on this project or if it can be tested on our device at all?
Would be keen to see a nice working Lineage ROM with full support of the EMUI camera.
Here's the site: OpenKirin.net
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Is this a full ROM or treble?
More ROMs can only be good, thanks for the share.
This phone definitely had something special about it
dladz said:
Is this a full ROM or treble?
More ROMs can only be good, thanks for the share.
This phone definitely had something special about it
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It seems that it's treble via fastboot only. We have to w8 and see for confirmation, I guess.
dladz said:
Is this a full ROM or treble?
More ROMs can only be good, thanks for the share.
This phone definitely had something special about it
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1 - YNWA
2 - what would be the advantage of the Treble releases? My dream would be that its more like stock but ..
YNWA
Treble is just a system image, probably won't completely work for every device, probably won't ever be fixed for every device.
Whereas a full ROM, usually only has to be fixed / tweaked once.[
When you install a ROM you flash most of the device and it's generally in a zip format, whereas a treble ROM is an IMG and you flash it only to the system partition leaving everything else intact.
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@MrDanMak
You do know that we have lineage in the ROM section right? And that the camera had been ported and its working?
P20 camera.
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YNWA
Treble is just a system image, probably won't completely work for every device, probably won't ever be fixed for every device.
Whereas a full ROM, usually only has to be fixed / tweaked once.[
When you install a ROM you flash most of the device and it's generally in a zip format, whereas a treble ROM is an IMG and you flash it only to the system partition leaving everything else intact.
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@MrDanMak
You do know that we have lineage in the ROM section right? And that the camera had been ported and its working?
P20 camera.
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YNWA indeed! Nice to see fellow redmen in here.
Yeah I know there is a Lineage ROM, but I was under the impression the camera isn't fully working right? It still has the gallery issue doesn't it?
If you read the FAQs you will see that they mention you shouldn't flash the current downloads on the P20/Pro. They will provide builds for this phone at a later date.
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YNWA indeed! Nice to see fellow redmen in here.
Yeah I know there is a Lineage ROM, but I was under the impression the camera isn't fully working right? It still has the gallery issue doesn't it?
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Yea that's true but at the same time, the fact that the p20 camera app actually starts is great news.
I'm sure the gallery app can be used, haven't looked into it myself but it should be fixable.
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Is this a full ROM or treble?
More ROMs can only be good, thanks for the share.
This phone definitely had something special about it
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Hi mate I am using a UK c782 any custom rom you would recommend?
Sttrory said:
Hi mate I am using a UK c782 any custom rom you would recommend?
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So there's very few custom ROM's here for the Pro, there's one called Romaur and a Lineage ROM, haven't flashed either.
All i did was unlock bootloader, install TWRP and Root, then i've tweaked the OS so that it's faster and more stable.
Themed it and for me that's enough.
I did debrand though so you may want to look at that first, the c432 device is the EU one i think or whats predominantly used in EU countries, mine was the c782 L09 which is the single sim variant from EE.
Changing over to c432 has allowed me to get the latest updates like 120 - 128 and i think at some point b131 will drop.
The c782 afaik is still on 110 which is a bit crap.
Check the guide here to debrand: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76785704&postcount=152 if it's something you want to do.
Guide to install OTA updates when you have TWRP installed and are rooted etc: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76844754&postcount=254
Hopefully there will be more ROM's but at the moment it's extremely quiet.
Treble is a bit of an issue for us i think because the installation method requires the use of TWRP to wipe and i've read somewhere that it can't wipe correctly so it fails when you flash a treble IMG.
There's a few great guides to install treble in one of the threads over in the project treble section, take a look.
I'll get around to installing treble img's at some point but can't today.
dladz said:
So there's very few custom ROM's here for the Pro, there's one called Romaur and a Lineage ROM, haven't flashed either.
All i did was unlock bootloader, install TWRP and Root, then i've tweaked the OS so that it's faster and more stable.
Themed it and for me that's enough.
I did debrand though so you may want to look at that first, the c432 device is the EU one i think or whats predominantly used in EU countries, mine was the c782 L09 which is the single sim variant from EE.
Changing over to c432 has allowed me to get the latest updates like 120 - 128 and i think at some point b131 will drop.
The c782 afaik is still on 110 which is a bit crap.
Check the guide here to debrand: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76785704&postcount=152 if it's something you want to do.
Guide to install OTA updates when you have TWRP installed and are rooted etc: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76844754&postcount=254
Hopefully there will be more ROM's but at the moment it's extremely quiet.
Treble is a bit of an issue for us i think because the installation method requires the use of TWRP to wipe and i've read somewhere that it can't wipe correctly so it fails when you flash a treble IMG.
There's a few great guides to install treble in one of the threads over in the project treble section, take a look.
I'll get around to installing treble img's at some point but can't today.
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Many thanks mate
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Many thanks mate
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no worries man, but id say read up before committing, this phone is so different to any device i've ever had.
Sttrory said:
Many thanks mate
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May I know what does debrand means ?
olygopoly said:
May I know what does debrand means ?
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If you bought you're device in the UK it's highly likely it's branded (even if there's no visual indications that it is) to a mobile network. Mine was bought via Mobiles.co.uk on 02 network and I assumed it was completely unbranded as there was no bloatware or 02 branding but apparently any updates from Huawei need to go though 02's checks before being pushed out and so updates are slooooowwww. debranding is essentially removing any ties to a network thus you get the Huawei updates as soon as they push them out.
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If you bought you're device in the UK it's highly likely it's branded (even if there's no visual indications that it is) to a mobile network. Mine was bought via Mobiles.co.uk on 02 network and I assumed it was completely unbranded as there was no bloatware or 02 branding but apparently any updates from Huawei need to go though 02's checks before being pushed out and so updates are slooooowwww. debranding is essentially removing any ties to a network thus you get the Huawei updates as soon as they push them out.
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Thanks for the explaination
Hello Everyone!
I'm currently trying to decide whether to get the Honor Note 10, or the Xiaomi Mi Max 3. While the former clearly shows strength in terms of processing power, design etc., the later one has a major advantage in software due to it having treble support.
Hence, if I may ask to those of you who already have the phone, is the device treble enabled? I currently have my OnePlus 5 running Android Pie because of treble, and I would like to have my secondary phone be as flexible as well! I am highly aware that the bootloader unlock requires a paid service, but a few dollars for having barebones AOSP roms would be something I look forward to.
Thank you in advance to those who'll answer!
SmartPhonesFan said:
Treble???
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Yeah! So that it may be possible to flash GSI roms
Hi,
As Huawei doesn't allow to unlock the bootloader, you won't be able to install any GSI to it...
Some people report to have managed to unlock it with a paid option and to install TWRP.
But I am almost certain that even if they did and assuming a GSI will install and boot, you'll end up with a crippled device with features missing or not working...
I'd like to see that also but I think for now I'll stick to stock to no get stuck ,?
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Treble???
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Well, maybe we could find workarounds for it... But I do understand your point with having incompatible roms.. I have bricked a device before because of it. But I hope someone knowledgable could look into this, especially those who work on the Honor 10 and Honor View 10 . Anyways, I guess I'll just try by myself, got my unit just today :fingers-crossed:
Is Note 10 a A only device?
Hi everyone,
I got my p20 at release so I have the unlocked bootloader
After a few months of getting along with EMUI, the newest version (EMUI9) is just pissing me off with bugs and terrible performance.
I tried installing TWRP but it doesent work (cant touch any of the UI in twrp.)
In the Forum i read it has to do with EMUI9, so my question is:
Is there any way to get TWRP to work and install roms or do i have to wait for an TWRP update?
Just downgrade to emui 8, you have to do it through PC app. Just search for updates and there should be line to downgrade.
how to get unlocked bootloader code now ?
KUANJILAODEHUA said:
how to get unlocked bootloader code now ?
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not possible
Where are you guys finding custom roms? I remember seeing a russian site or something but cant seem to find that link anymore. I know it had havoc os and stuff.
jackching said:
Where are you guys finding custom roms? I remember seeing a russian site or something but cant seem to find that link anymore. I know it had havoc os and stuff.
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You can use GSI roms (treble roms)
madoxx77 said:
You can use GSI roms (treble roms)
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Is there a good starting guide for treble roms? I got the bootloader unlocked and thats it. It's kirin 970 if that makes any difference. SHould i downgrade to emui 8?
jackching said:
Is there a good starting guide for treble roms? I got the bootloader unlocked and thats it. It's kirin 970 if that makes any difference. SHould i downgrade to emui 8?
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I know this reply is a bit late but anyway,
Openkirin released a build of Resurrection Remix 7.0.1 for EMUI 9 devices this week, and it looks like the P20 is on the supported list. GApps and stock Huawei camera are preinstalled. It might be your best bet for compatibility.
I was going to try it out myself but I haven't unlocked my bootloader yet (but have the code) and to be honest EMUI 9 is good enough for me as a daily driver, I can't find a good enough reason to flash.
EDIT 21/04/19: Unlocked my bootloader and installed RR 7 and touchscreen doesn't seem to be working on my phone. Same thing with Omnirom. Going back to stock for now. Devs on the Telegram support said to wait for the next build.
madoxx77 said:
You can use GSI roms (treble roms)
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Yeah, but following this forum I have noticed that many users encounter problems like not working fingerprint scanner or hotspot on treble based ROMs.
Or maybe you can point on on some Android Oreo ROM working properly on P20? (Want Oreo because of Xposed, not sure if it is already ported to Pie)
Apearently software-wise Huawei is still as bad as it was 5 years ago (still remember and hate my Huawei G6), because when bought this phone (P20) hoped that at least it supports treble... sadly - just partially
Ryandos said:
I know this reply is a bit late but anyway,
EDIT 21/04/19: Unlocked my bootloader and installed RR 7 and touchscreen doesn't seem to be working on my phone. Same thing with Omnirom. Going back to stock for now. Devs on the Telegram support said to wait for the next build.
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Thanks for information, cannot wait when I will be able to get away from EMUI :laugh: :good:
Chill it BanG said:
Thanks for information, cannot wait when I will be able to get away from EMUI :laugh: :good:
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Me too haha.
You could try it yourself if you really wanted to, it seems to be a hit or miss whether people have this bug or not. A dev told me a few other P10s have the problem while his own P10 works fine. I haven't seen many P20 users though.