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Finally saying goodbye to Android.
Going back to iOS, iPhone 4s shipping status is shipped. Kapooow
Reasons for dumping android:
- fragmented apps, one works on a device never works on a new device, apps developers can't keep up on making their apps works on every single android device coming out to the point most of thrm don't even bother updating.
-few developer support, i mean when you are on the iOS, every single developer apps that is made, works on iPhone 4, 4s, 3gs, 3g, iPod touch, iPad and iPad2.
- tones of accessories.
- battery life,what i hate about my infuse 4g take 3-4 hrs to charge and 5-6hrs to discharge on maximum usage. When in my iPhone 4 tooks 1hr or less to charge.
- every single apps just works, no crash, no hang ups, and errors, my infuse is snappier than my iPhone 4 but the Adroid os itself really is not refined yet.
- almost all company out there want an app of their company and they do have on iOS, on android not that much and if they even have it does not work on my infuse 4g.
- flash in android id nice, but skyfire fix that on iOS, and you dont have those annoying ads that drains your battery.
- warranty, if you have an iPhone warranty is just a walk-in, no more argument and reasoning, just drop by any apple store and when you walk out, you are holding a brand new iPhone.
- love the experience on android in customization, but after a few weeks and months, the customization does not cover the hate you get of important apps that does not works, and no one even care about the customization around you.
- ice cream sandwich will solve the fragmented Adroid OS eco system, but it is not there yet. I don't want to be in that eco when they are fixing it yet and it has not been started to this date.
Yes I have the iPhone before i went to android, that is why I see all those thing how important the iOS, it just work for me.
May be in the near future I will be buying an Android device, but i am sure it is going to be a very long while.
I know android hardware is way better than iPhone 4s but even in my iPhone 4 it just works every single time.
I found out that bechmark does not mean anything, if it does not work correctly.
Come on, em i an apple fanboy, NO! Thats why i keep trying to buy and test on store if there is a new android coming out.
I wanted to tell my self Android can beat Apple, but I found it myself that as of this day, it is a long way.
And It is so hard to sell my Samsung Infuse 4g and any android device, because every month or two there is a new device,
I found out that it is like a car, if there is a new model that is been release, your car will look like an old model even though it is still shiny and a few months old. That is why BMW and MERCEDEZ and other luxury car don't usually introduce a neww model in a short period of time.
Anyway thanks guys and goodluck to all android samsung infuse 4g user, I reeally had fun rooting and custom firmware.
Thanks to GTG and the other guy.
Godspeed guys and Steve Job is dead, life is so short spend time with your family as much as you can. God Bless.
Some people just like simplicty......cant be mad bruh.
but i like being OUTSIDE OF THE BOX.
See, I never understood what the point of threads like this is. If you want to go to an iPhone, go. You don't need to justify it to everyone here. 99% of the people here are happy with Android and don't really care about the reasons you prefer an iPhone. I don't mean that in a mean way, but everyone should pick a phone depending on what they like the most. You don't need to tell us, just move along. At best you'll get "Ok, bye", more than likely you'll get people arguing for something that was entirely unnecessary.
The iPhone is a great phone if it does what you want. Enjoy it.
That said... Ok, bye!
I will admit, I'm frustrated at the rate manufacturers are pumping out Android devices. By the time you make a decision and by one you have a month to enjoy it before something better is announced. Good luck with the 4s .
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Thanks for filling our general section with garbage.
Best regards,
Kevin Retherford
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why post that your leaving ? who cares
Yeah, my care meter did budge at all.
BUH-BYE
When you get it do me a favor and ask Siri if anyone here gives a [email protected]¢k. Sorry couldn't resist.
While I can agree on some of your points I think you stretched the truth on a few. For instance ios4 crippled a 3g. It was somewhat fixed in later versions but it hardly "just worked". I couldn't return it to at&t and they just gave me a working model. And as far as all apps working and no crashes is pure bs. You can go to many apps in the app store and see people complaining of crashes etc. in the reviews. Anyway it is your choice I'm not here to argue. The iphone was on my list of possible upgrades until it came out to just be a slightly upgraded model. I'm sure it will still sell like crazy and be all the rage.
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Don't let the door hit ya where the lord split ya!
Another thread to fill empty space... lol. Good luck with iPhone, but hope they do not restrict you like your in prison lol.
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Thanks to GTG and the other guy.
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lol
the other guy
Sorry to hear your going to a phone thats over rated...
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Proud to say I do not have iTunes installed on my computer.
Livin a Google Life, *****es...
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No one cares.
Leave, there's no need for closure. Smh.
Conform with the rest of the non-educated world. The iPhone suits you.
iTunes is like a virus. Updates and nagging about getting safari once a week. Bleck. Have fun being (Apple's) your phone's ***** OP. I wish my phone had it layed out as to strictly what i can and can not do.
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Cool story bro. Ask me if i care?
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In related news the sky is blue.... Lol
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rjan22 said:
Finally saying goodbye to Android.
Going back to iOS, iPhone 4s shipping status is shipped. Kapooow
Reasons for dumping android:
- fragmented apps, one works on a device never works on a new device, apps developers can't keep up on making their apps works on every single android device coming out to the point most of thrm don't even bother updating.
-few developer support, i mean when you are on the iOS, every single developer apps that is made, works on iPhone 4, 4s, 3gs, 3g, iPod touch, iPad and iPad2.
- tones of accessories.
- battery life,what i hate about my infuse 4g take 3-4 hrs to charge and 5-6hrs to discharge on maximum usage. When in my iPhone 4 tooks 1hr or less to charge.
- every single apps just works, no crash, no hang ups, and errors, my infuse is snappier than my iPhone 4 but the Adroid os itself really is not refined yet.
- almost all company out there want an app of their company and they do have on iOS, on android not that much and if they even have it does not work on my infuse 4g.
- flash in android id nice, but skyfire fix that on iOS, and you dont have those annoying ads that drains your battery.
- warranty, if you have an iPhone warranty is just a walk-in, no more argument and reasoning, just drop by any apple store and when you walk out, you are holding a brand new iPhone.
- love the experience on android in customization, but after a few weeks and months, the customization does not cover the hate you get of important apps that does not works, and no one even care about the customization around you.
- ice cream sandwich will solve the fragmented Adroid OS eco system, but it is not there yet. I don't want to be in that eco when they are fixing it yet and it has not been started to this date.
Yes I have the iPhone before i went to android, that is why I see all those thing how important the iOS, it just work for me.
May be in the near future I will be buying an Android device, but i am sure it is going to be a very long while.
I know android hardware is way better than iPhone 4s but even in my iPhone 4 it just works every single time.
I found out that bechmark does not mean anything, if it does not work correctly.
Come on, em i an apple fanboy, NO! Thats why i keep trying to buy and test on store if there is a new android coming out.
I wanted to tell my self Android can beat Apple, but I found it myself that as of this day, it is a long way.
And It is so hard to sell my Samsung Infuse 4g and any android device, because every month or two there is a new device,
I found out that it is like a car, if there is a new model that is been release, your car will look like an old model even though it is still shiny and a few months old. That is why BMW and MERCEDEZ and other luxury car don't usually introduce a neww model in a short period of time.
Anyway thanks guys and goodluck to all android samsung infuse 4g user, I reeally had fun rooting and custom firmware.
Thanks to GTG and the other guy.
Godspeed guys and Steve Job is dead, life is so short spend time with your family as much as you can. God Bless.
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Let me paraphrase that for you:
-I am too simple to use a device that requires me to think.
-I am willing to accept giving a corporation complete control over my device.
-I am unable to communicate a complete thought in this language.
-Steve Jobs is dead. I will now rock a black St. Croix mock turtleneck because he changed the world.
I remember summer of 2011 when I bought this phone. I'd previously owned a couple of windows phones but took them back because a) nothing seemed to work, and b) nothing that didn't work seemed to be fixable. c) things that did work didn't work very well.
I bought an infuse 4g and my wife got an atrix 4g. (I'd considered the atrix as well, but heard stories of bricking and overheating... and moto's webtop strategy looked pretty half baked.)
I was on AT&T and decided to stick with them. The only other real android option at the time was the HTC inspire, which I didn't really like. I also considered the iPhone, but my experience with running itunes on a PC and using a 30gb ipod really soured me on Apple at least for a while.
Really why i opted for the Infuse boiled down to Samsung's promise to update phones for 18 months (didn't happen obviously) and the hackability. Samsung phones seemed easiest to hack in case support ever ran out and something needed fixing.
I waited patiently for gingerbread. When it took forever I found XDA and ran zeus 5.2 for months. Even with a few minor battery glitches and the very rare force close or reboot it was much nicer than stock FroYo. Then I tried CM9, which almost feels finished, but battery issues and random reboots seem to get worse over time and require reflashing. Then on to a couple other roms and now CM10. I do love the bells and whistles of CM10, but it does feel like it might just be too much for our outdated hardware.
Maybe I'd be better off had i never discovered XDA, because I've wasted more than a few hours backing up, flashing, re-installing apps, etc. :laugh:
I suppose when it comes right down to it, I'm not sure I've ever been 100% happy with my infuse, but my wife on the other hand is at least 99% unhappy with her atrix 99% of the time. That phone really is bordering on terrible, even the higher res display always looks grainier.
Now it's almost 2013 and I'm sure those of us on contracts will be moving on to something else in the next few months.
Phones with 2gb of RAM running jellybean sure look nice, and it looks like google is going to have a much more comprehensive nexus program.
i use a lot of google services for work and also have a nexus7, so I'm probably stuck with android for the long haul, but to be honest every glitzy new Android phone from a Carrier just looks like something that will be the next months forgotten red headed stepchild left for dead and never updated again after heavy promotion.
In the beginning of Dec 2011, no-one in my family had smartphones.
Then my wife decided we needed to outfit the entire family of five with smartphones for Xmas.
Faced with purchase of 5 phones, we looked only at the ones that were “free” (if you want to call a 2-year contract free..).
Infuse had much better hardware than iPhone 3 which was offered free at the time IIRC
It was also the biggest and baddest of the offered free ATT Android phones at the time.
Pantech Crossover was one of the only other free ATT Android choice at the time...'nuff said (doesn't hold a candle to our beloved i997)
Today, everyone else in my family is stil on stock Froyo. I moved to on rooted Gingerbread stock which I think makes me look really adventurous and with-it in their eyes (you have my permision to LOL). I haven’t ever used anything else except briefly trying a few custom GB ROMs.
I’m very happy with my phone and OS. I have a hard time imagining what it is that I’m missing because I haven’t seen what other phones/operating systems have to offer. I use my phone for a lot of things and spend a lot of time exploring the apps available on my current OS, but I don’t foresee upgrading my os again in the near future... perhaps not until the next phone in Dec 2013. Maybe if all my friends had SG3’s and Notes running JB and CM10, then I’d start being unhappy with what I've got. But I’ve got my Froyo family and most of my friends are iphoners.
Maybe if you want to be happy with your Infuse, you should surround yourself with people who use Froyo
I've loved my infuse. I was dying for a smartphone for a year lol hyping over the release of the iPhone 4. Then I saw on cnet the leak of the infuse. I decided I needed that phone lol. I got the infuse the day it came out, it was soo much fun. Then maybe 4-5 months later I found on some website how to flash Gtg's over lock kernel, starting my hacking journey. Used android forums, when I guy recommended xda. Switched to xda, and it's been really nice. Lol idk what my next phone will be, I picked up a iPhone 4S from my friend for a small price to pay (he wanted a tmobile concord, to replace his tmobile phone and he is a noob lol, never unlocked the 4s.) but I'm looking at the Optimus g, one x+, or the gnote 2, I was thinking of selling this 4s to get one, but it's really starting to grow on me, and I've invested enough mods in it I may just keep it forever . I used to be a die hard android fan, but really you have to look at the good and bad things about each operating system, like android moving files and easy hacking, or ease of use, no hang ups, and just plain simple to use. Being honest, the 4s was probably good for me to get, I was spending too much time of my life trying to develop/hack, while I've been letting some schoolwork slip by... Haha. Still love and use my infuse though, not going to let that go, my friend was like ill buy it from you for 300-350, I said no! I love my infuse. It's just an awesome phone, even better it was my first smartphone lol.
I'm not sure that you can throw anything at the Infuse that it can't handle!!!
I am running AOKP JB and its soooo much smoother than ICS ever thought about being. You owe it to yourself to try a JB ROM before you get rid of a perfectly functional phone.
My Infuse was my first Android phone and have actually have zero complaints.. no matter my noobish adventures, if something went wrong I was able to get it back and working again.. (with the help of the amazing community here) so it was a perfect introduction for me..
I moved to the note a couple weeks ago and don't even have my Infuse anymore, but I still read the infuse forum everyday..
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My wife was the first to get a smartphone, the iPhone 3GS, she loved it and I was jealous. I was stuck with a dumbphone and wanted to upgrade. Did my research and at the time (Oct '11), the Infuse seemed to be the logical choice. It combined all of the features I wanted in my new phone. I got it, loved it, and it was much bigger and better than my wife's iCrap. I had it for months without doing anything to it. Then I had just gotten the GB update from Samsung, so I was happy with them and my "new" phone. It ran great with GB, but it left me wanting more. I came to XDA and got started. I started with GB ROMs and the one I used was awesome and very stable. I still wanted more. Made the switch to JB. I loved the way it looked but the ROMs I tried were not very stable. I kept going back and forth from GB to JB to GB. I had a list of features I needed the devs to work out for JB for me to stay with it. Once those feature were added/stabilized, I made the permanent switch. I now run the ParanoidAndroid ROM from Scott Hart. He works tirelessly for the Infuse and we appreciate him for it.
For a while after a stated flashing, my wife was insanely jealous over my Infuse as compared to her POS 3GS. It was bigger, faster and ran newer software. She couldn't wait for the 5 to come out. I lobbied her to switch to an Android, but she was still loyal to the fruit. About a month before the 5 came out, she lost her 3GS. Without a phone, she asked me what she should do. I offered her one of our older spare backup phones. She didn't want that. She said let's go get the best one I can. Which was the Galaxy S3. Within an hour or two, she had forgotten all about Apple and was now fully a member of the Android community. She even wants me to root it soon! Even though it's an American company, and I should support it, Apple is so inflexible that it feels great to convert another one over to the dark side!
I am due for my upgrade in February, and I'm gonna wait for the Galaxy S4. I need quad core and at least 2GB of RAM or I'm just gonna keep my Infuse.
Let's see, before I had my Infuse I had these smartphones:
* Motorola 9qe that I flashed to make a 9qh. ((Windows Mobile 6.0)
* HTC Kaiser, (Windows Mobile 6.1)
* HTC Touch Pro 2, (Windows Mobile 6.5)
When I first heard of android, and learned that it was based on Linux, my initial thoughts were along the line of "Yeah, lets bring Linux to the phone because it's been SO successful on the desktop. NOT!!! This is going to be the biggest bust ever." I was wrong.
I switched to Android because out of all the user reviews that I read regarding Windows Phone 7 seemed to give only negative reviews, and it just seemed to suck. I decided that WM 6.5 was the last version of Windows Mobile that I would ever use, and decided to switch to Android because I don't really like PALM, and I hate Crapple products.
I bouught the Infuse because it was on sale for $9.95, and was running Android 2.2.3, (I think it was Froyo). No other reason for the initial purchase, as the Infuse is my first Android device. My next phone will likely be a Samsung Note, (or whatever is on sale next july).
I'm a Mac person for the most part. I've been using Macs since OS9 and don't see that changing in the near future (although I do like some Linux distros). However I'm not a fan of the walled garden model that everyone, including Google, is chasing right now, especially Apple's increasingly closed hardware. Seriously, you can't even change your own battery now! The iPhone and iPad represent the worst of these tendencies and for that reason, I've never wanted one. I knew I wanted an Android phone, but didn't know much about them. Basically, the Infuse was on sale, recommended, and looked nice.
It's not been easy. There are so many terrible guides out there on Android/Mac compatibility, I've wasted a lot of time and money trying to get my phone to work with my computer the way I want it to. It's all good now! I really appreciate the Android dev community and for that reason I'll stick with Android. I'll probably get another Samsung phone since I tend to like their designs and because I like how much they bother Apple!
Whizzpopper said:
I'm a Mac person for the most part. I've been using Macs since OS9 and don't see that changing in the near future (although I do like some Linux distros). However I'm not a fan of the walled garden model that everyone, including Google, is chasing right now, especially Apple's increasingly closed hardware. Seriously, you can't even change your own battery now! The iPhone and iPad represent the worst of these tendencies and for that reason, I've never wanted one. I knew I wanted an Android phone, but didn't know much about them. Basically, the Infuse was on sale, recommended, and looked nice.
It's not been easy. There are so many terrible guides out there on Android/Mac compatibility, I've wasted a lot of time and money trying to get my phone to work with my computer the way I want it to. It's all good now! I really appreciate the Android dev community and for that reason I'll stick with Android. I'll probably get another Samsung phone since I tend to like their designs and because I like how much they bother Apple!
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I think Google will only chase this to an extent. Openness has it's appeal, and I think androids source code will always be open, even though 3rd parties like amazon will put pressure on it. I like what I'm hearing about google's new nexus strategy. I'd really prefer stock android of any manufacturer skin at this point. I have a nexus 7 and didn't even bother to root it.
4.2 or whatever they are calling it looks like manufactuers skins will only be a theme which can be easily removed, and of course after ICS you can disable any crapware you don't use.
While it might close android a bit, google needs to do something so that we are not always wading through manufacturer/carrier finger pointing for updates.
Android does have a weakness in apps. iOS still has more, but the quantity is not so much the problem as quality. Earlier this year I think Google finally laid down some solid guidelines for best practices for developers, but still many developers don't follow them. The menu button on my N7 for example. sometimes it's up at the top, sometimes it's down below with the soft keys.
Apple is obviously far more strict. Even so it has not seemed to hinder development at all. There's always jailbreak, and if I were to ever buy an iphone i'd do that ASAP if for nothing else other than widgets.
For Samsung I do really think they've dialed in their product line much better. Having one phone instead of a bunch of custom phones for carriers is a big deal. They no longer seem to take the shotgun approach. There's a big distinction between the note and the GS3, and they seem to be committed to releasing a new version once a year which avoids the option anxiety/paradox of choice we've had in the past. I'd guess that would make updates easier and more streamlined.
It also doesn't leave us feeling burned when you buy a brand new phone and 2 months later the newer better version is on the shelf. I suppose that's my one gripe about the infuse. It was a big deal for about two months. Samsung made promises and broke them almost immediately.
I do still love the display and form factor though. Although when i first got it i actually almost felt self conscious answering phone calls on it because it was so huge. Just a year later it's average if not slightly below average for phone size though.
I got my Infuse in January after washing my previous non-smart phone in the wash. I've been addicted to Android ever since! :victory:
Got my Infuse in August of 2011. For 4 years previous to that, I was using an LG Chocolate dumb phone on Verizon. I was sick of Verizon's prices, and knew I wanted to go Android but refused to get a Motorola (have had nothing but poor experiences with them in the past) so I went to the AT&T store to play with their phones. Ended up walking out with an Infuse that day.
Since then, my time with the Infuse has been sorta bittersweet. I can't see myself ever purchasing anything but a Samsung Android (hey! I actually like Touchwiz), but if I could do it over again I think I would've gone for the Galaxy S2. While GB ROMs were great for my phone, the jump to ICS and now JB has presented some annoying problems. Most notably is the Android OS battery drain bug, which always seems to attack my phone when I most need it on the go. It never happens at home on Wifi, but it ALWAYS seems to happen when I switch over to data when I'm leaving my house. Needing your phone for a 2 hour drive, and having it die in 45 minutes is NOT cool.
Problem is, I enjoy the added functionality of JB, so going back to GB isn't really an option. I don't necessary share the same opinion as other people that JB runs flawlessly on our 512MB of RAM. While it is smooth 99% of the time, those times when it isn't smooth seem to really cripple the phone. And, like I said before, the Android OS drain bug is really annoying. I like to reboot my phone every morning, and I never know if the drain bug is going to present itself after reboot. It's like Russian roulette.
So, while my experience with my Infuse has been pretty good, I definitely won't be sad to move on from it when the time is right. If Google can offer the Nexus 4 unlocked at a decent price, that might be where I go, unless I can find a Note 2 or S3 at a decent price.
Infuse is a great phone. It was my first android phone, and I really had no issues. I've been flashing lots of roms but I'm running Zeus 5.2 for couple of months now because It has best battery life plus It is error-free (No SOD, No dropping signal, mms etc). I like ICS and JB but I really want everything to work perfectly. And I already have Samsung Galaxy tab 2 running CM10...
One real problem I had with infuse... is that if you see other phones less than 4.5" I have problems lolzz.
I still have about 8 months before my 2 year contract is up so I'm still gonna enjoy it for a while.
I'm thinking of changing it to whatever they have the best (probably Note 2 or S 4).
I got my infuse about 2 weeks after it came out i wanted it because i was moving away from blackberry. I didnt like iphones and wanted an android because of all the things you can do. It was a 4.5 inch screen at the time the first screen that big and i just wanted it. my experience has been good at fist i had to get use to the size of the phone and it being touch now om bored i hate it and i want a new phone. My next phone will be the galaxy note 2 i was thinking about the galaxy s3 but changed my mind bigger screen quad and lte yay.
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Two reasons why i bought samsung infuse:
1) 4,5 in. amazing Super Amoled Plus display
2) 8 px camera
If I'm going to change my smartphone I will be buy Samsung S II.
Why not Samsung S III? It's to big for me.)
picklnows said:
Two reasons why i bought samsung infuse:
1) 4,5 in. amazing Super Amoled Plus display
2) 8 px camera
If I'm going to change my smartphone I will be buy Samsung S II.
Why not Samsung S III? It's to big for me.)
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c'mon dude its only 0.3" bigger...
slicingtaco said:
c'mon dude its only 0.3" bigger...
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old joke:
..for some, the extra .3" could mean the difference between, "Oh" ...and... "Ahhhhhhhhh"
slicingtaco said:
c'mon dude its only 0.3" bigger...
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Man, the difference in size between Infuse and S II subtle.
Although the difference between them 0.2 ".
S III it's to big....
Sorry for bad english.
the infuse will back up my note2 on tmob. it was a damn good phone!well still is realy,but 5gbs and 100 mins for 30$ is good enough for me,just need to root and use an app for the wifi calling.now i just need wendsday to get here!!!!!!!!!!!!
At the time, I was looking at the Atrix, Infuse and Inspire. I originally got the Inspire but didn't care for the sound quality so, I got the Infuse. The screen was what attracted me to the Infuse. I would have like my next phone to have been a Nexus device. But with the lack of an SD slot, I don't think it will be the Nexus 4. Yes, Google probably wants folks to use their cloud services but the lack of an SD simply doesn't make sense to me.
The Infuse was handed down to me so it was not really my choice.
I initially hated it with the stock Froyo. It was too unstable. OS would get corrupted and I would have to reflash. As a result I would lose all my bookmarks and contacts. I would have to add these back manually. The bluetooth was also unusable.
Now I am on JB and it is a completely different phone. I realized it was the OS that was bad and not the phone. Everything works great: Phone, WiFi, music, GPS and bluetooth. Some people have issues with battery drain with 3G. I don't have a data plan and don't need one. I am near a WiFi connection for most of my day. I like the fact that I can sync my contacts and bookmarks to my google account.
I am not sure of my next phone. It would be a dual core GSM phone (not CDMA). Other than that I have not given it much thought.
Hi, I am currently in the stages of writing a book on why the android OS is better than the iPhone OS in all senses. I plan to make it as long as it takes. I need the xda community to help me along the way. I need facts about android and iPhone down to startup times. I need people to compare certain aspects of android and iPhone like how fast say the game hill climb racer loads, or how fast the phones start up and shut down or how long it takes you to get to Google using the same internet connection. Anything you can possibly say about android that makes it better like the many ways to unlock your phone and the many themes you can have, and how much easier it is to update your phone, and how you can remove and add storage to your device and get better battery life. If you guys could please help me I would really appreciate it.
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And you thought celebrities weren't smart! =P
ArianaGrande said:
Hi, I am currently in the stages of writing a book on why the android OS is better than the iPhone OS in all senses. I plan to make it as long as it takes. I need the xda community to help me along the way. I need facts about android and iPhone down to startup times. I need people to compare certain aspects of android and iPhone like how fast say the game hill climb racer loads, or how fast the phones start up and shut down or how long it takes you to get to Google using the same internet connection. Anything you can possibly say about android that makes it better like the many ways to unlock your phone and the many themes you can have, and how much easier it is to update your phone, and how you can remove and add storage to your device and get better battery life. If you guys could please help me I would really appreciate it.
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I think the only great difference is in the Open Source start with this and it will be easier!
I know this question may be seem insane for lot of people out there. But please be kind enough to answer me with patient. (typical research)
I am a Linux developer. I am used to develop on desktop environment and find my self confident with portability of laptop. For all of these years I used a simple mobile phone just to make calls and texts. I don't ever do browse web or take photos from my mobile. I have digital cameras and camcorders for that. Most technical thing I used with my phone is using it as a presentation remote controller over blue-tooth. That's all.
Recently my phone broke down due to my careless nature. So it's time for me to buy a mobile. I thought of going for a android (smart phone). Could you guys point me out why should I get a smart phone? Would it be waste of money? I don't need to read books, surf web, take photos or play games on mobile. I see gps as a useful thing but not using that much either. I see a camera on smart-phone is a waste. I like to use it as a QR reader too. Also if I buy it I would make apps for it as I know how to develop android apps. But I don't need to buy it for app making.
So please stop laughing at me and tell me why should I shift. I'm bit old fashion guy. Thank you
P.S. :- Thank you guys so much for the support. I made my decision. You guys helped me to make it. I'm buing android in next week. Again thanks alot.
theLolipro said:
I know this question may be seem insane for lot of people out there. But please be kind enough to answer me with patient. (typical research)
I am a Linux developer. I am used to develop on desktop environment and find my self confident with portability of laptop. For all of these years I used a simple mobile phone just to make calls and texts. I don't ever do browse web or take photos from my mobile. I have digital cameras and camcorders for that. Most technical thing I used with my phone is using it as a presentation remote controller over blue-tooth. That's all.
Recently my phone broke down due to my careless nature. So it's time for me to buy a mobile. I thought of going for a android (smart phone). Could you guys point me out why should I get a smart phone? Would it be waste of money? I don't need to read books, surf web, take photos or play games on mobile. I see gps as a useful thing but not using that much either. I see a camera on smart-phone is a waste.
So please stop laughing at me and tell me why should I shift. I'm bit old fashion guy. Thank you
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These days, many people have a Smartphone as well as a normal calling+texting phone. Its simply because Smartphones don't have much battery backup and the normal phones can last for 3-4 days. And for calling and texting they uses this normal phone and for internet related things, Smartphones! But its just for heavy phone user.
In your case, if you don't use internet related apps or web browsing you can pretty much opt for a normal phone as it comes cheap and can save battery. Android or any other Smartphone is only useful for those who uses Social Networking or Instant Messaging, etc. And if you feel like you want to shift to Android after purchasing a normal phone, its do-able because normal phones like Nokia 109, Nokia 114 etc. costs much less.
definitely smartphones
As of these days smartphone pricing is going down day by day, and its better to hav one if you develop apps. One point we dont know when an emergency mail has to be sent or receive only by your smartphone 3g .
You don't need one its that simple
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It's up to you.
Personally, I've found plenty of times it's much easier to do something internet-related on my phone rather than get out or bring my big, heavy laptop. I used to do that. Get lost, need directions, et cetera ? That meant pulling over to somewhere with free WIFI. Having a smartphone means you just need to pull over anywhere - or use voice commands/have a passenger do it/just be unsafe/et cetera.
I used to have a point-and-shoot camera and the only time I've used it since getting my new phone with a decent camera is to take a picture of the phone itself. Why carry around a bunch of stuff when one small object can do it all ?
With my smartphone I hardly ever text any more since I can use data IM services. Not really essential, but it gives you options. I also find typing on the touchscreen to be faster and easier thanks to Swiftkey 3. I had phones with a physical keyboard before and I don't miss it.
If you are getting a carrier upgrade or considering buying through eBay or the like, I think a good question is "why not" ? You can get a good enough smartphone for pretty cheap and get a feel for it.
One thing I love is things like Astrid tasks - I can have it instead of a grocery list, et cetera - I won't lose it because my phone is something I always check to have with me instead of a piece of paper. I can carry it while getting groceries unlike a whole laptop or even computer. It's also incredibly easy to take notes at times when getting a whole laptop out would be ridiculous. You can make notes of things to remember and add calendar events that sync to your desktop/laptop. I have my phone syncing to three other devices so that just like not having to carry an extra camera, I don't have to manually transfer everything on physical media.
Sure, I don't NEED to play mobile games, but... why not ? Even my mom likes Android gaming. My phone plan is LESS than my talk + text plan was with Sprint, it's not like I'm paying extra for this. I keep a book or two on my phone because why not, it comes in handy when needed and it doesn't cost me anything. I watched a bit of a show on Netflix while waiting for a friend - so much faster and easier than setting up a whole laptop in my car and trying to get a WIFI signal strong enough. I'm so pleased that I'm paying less money and getting so much more - my last phone couldn't even go on-line, let alone stream HD video over 4g.
I like being able to search for answers to "when is Sears open until" or "nearest liquor store" or "I haven't seen a road I recognise for ten miles" - and be able to get directions. Yeah, it's silly, but it's pretty great. I had to drive once to a friend's parents' house - somewhere I'd never been. Instead of getting arduous turn-by-turn directions, I could just get the street address and Google Maps lead me there without needing to keep my friend on the phone while driving. My friends and I routinely use the navigation since even if you know where point B is, you might not immediately know the best way to get there from point A - saves gas and time.
I would disagree that you don't need it for app making. Not technically, no - but how can you really be a good app-maker if you don't understand the user and what the user wants ? You can read about it, sure - but you're not going to have the best tools to be creative and innovate unless you have it in your hands and understand the unique challenges and logistics that come with actually using a smartphone. It's like if doctors only read books and never interacted with sick people under instruction before being "on the job" for real. You learn so much by having hands-on experience that might be easy to overlook or not consider otherwise.
My dad had a flip-phone until recently. He asked the same question, "why" ? Now he wonders why he ever said "no". Yeah, he has a laptop required for work and a lot of other things, but it's just the little things that it adds - the options, getting rid of extra gadgets, making life a little bit easier when you'd have been paying for the phone service anyway - why not ?
Could I get by without it ? Definitely. But why would I give it up when it's actually saving me money ?
Thank you guys! I think I found my answer.
coolsandie said:
These days, many people have a Smartphone as well as a normal calling+texting phone. Its simply because Smartphones don't have much battery backup and the normal phones can last for 3-4 days. And for calling and texting they uses this normal phone and for internet related things, Smartphones! But its just for heavy phone user.
In your case, if you don't use internet related apps or web browsing you can pretty much opt for a normal phone as it comes cheap and can save battery. Android or any other Smartphone is only useful for those who uses Social Networking or Instant Messaging, etc. And if you feel like you want to shift to Android after purchasing a normal phone, its do-able because normal phones like Nokia 109, Nokia 114 etc. costs much less.
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As of these days smartphone pricing is going down day by day, and its better to hav one if you develop apps. One point we dont know when an emergency mail has to be sent or receive only by your smartphone 3g .
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Thanks I thought of the same points. But rather switching later thought to make my switch now.
S3freak said:
You don't need one its that simple
So many Roms so little time
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Pennycake said:
It's up to you.
Personally, I've found plenty of times it's much easier to do something internet-related on my phone rather than get out or bring my big, heavy laptop. I used to do that. Get lost, need directions, et cetera ? That meant pulling over to somewhere with free WIFI. Having a smartphone means you just need to pull over anywhere - or use voice commands/have a passenger do it/just be unsafe/et cetera.
I used to have a point-and-shoot camera and the only time I've used it since getting my new phone with a decent camera is to take a picture of the phone itself. Why carry around a bunch of stuff when one small object can do it all ?
With my smartphone I hardly ever text any more since I can use data IM services. Not really essential, but it gives you options. I also find typing on the touchscreen to be faster and easier thanks to Swiftkey 3. I had phones with a physical keyboard before and I don't miss it.
If you are getting a carrier upgrade or considering buying through eBay or the like, I think a good question is "why not" ? You can get a good enough smartphone for pretty cheap and get a feel for it.
One thing I love is things like Astrid tasks - I can have it instead of a grocery list, et cetera - I won't lose it because my phone is something I always check to have with me instead of a piece of paper. I can carry it while getting groceries unlike a whole laptop or even computer. It's also incredibly easy to take notes at times when getting a whole laptop out would be ridiculous. You can make notes of things to remember and add calendar events that sync to your desktop/laptop. I have my phone syncing to three other devices so that just like not having to carry an extra camera, I don't have to manually transfer everything on physical media.
Sure, I don't NEED to play mobile games, but... why not ? Even my mom likes Android gaming. My phone plan is LESS than my talk + text plan was with Sprint, it's not like I'm paying extra for this. I keep a book or two on my phone because why not, it comes in handy when needed and it doesn't cost me anything. I watched a bit of a show on Netflix while waiting for a friend - so much faster and easier than setting up a whole laptop in my car and trying to get a WIFI signal strong enough. I'm so pleased that I'm paying less money and getting so much more - my last phone couldn't even go on-line, let alone stream HD video over 4g.
I like being able to search for answers to "when is Sears open until" or "nearest liquor store" or "I haven't seen a road I recognise for ten miles" - and be able to get directions. Yeah, it's silly, but it's pretty great. I had to drive once to a friend's parents' house - somewhere I'd never been. Instead of getting arduous turn-by-turn directions, I could just get the street address and Google Maps lead me there without needing to keep my friend on the phone while driving. My friends and I routinely use the navigation since even if you know where point B is, you might not immediately know the best way to get there from point A - saves gas and time.
I would disagree that you don't need it for app making. Not technically, no - but how can you really be a good app-maker if you don't understand the user and what the user wants ? You can read about it, sure - but you're not going to have the best tools to be creative and innovate unless you have it in your hands and understand the unique challenges and logistics that come with actually using a smartphone. It's like if doctors only read books and never interacted with sick people under instruction before being "on the job" for real. You learn so much by having hands-on experience that might be easy to overlook or not consider otherwise.
My dad had a flip-phone until recently. He asked the same question, "why" ? Now he wonders why he ever said "no". Yeah, he has a laptop required for work and a lot of other things, but it's just the little things that it adds - the options, getting rid of extra gadgets, making life a little bit easier when you'd have been paying for the phone service anyway - why not ?
Could I get by without it ? Definitely. But why would I give it up when it's actually saving me money ?
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:good: Thank you so much for the time you took for giving me a reply. I don't want to earn from making apps. I'm a free and open source developer and my profession is linux (for now ). Using map is one of my conserns. I don't like playing games on mobile as due to tiny screen. Even playing angry birds on mobile is less effective than using a large monitor. So I'm not conserned about it.
About shopping list. Well I have a similar idea to develop a free app for keep tracking things you do.
Again thank you very much. Your very explaintory answer have opned new use cases for me. God sake you are a good technical writer. May I ask you, are you a QA or Analysist? Because you know how to reply and give use cases.
Thank you guys. I guess I found the answer. But one more small problem. is buying android 2.3 device Alcatel OT-903 will be enough? It's a low price phone and if it didn't worth it I wouldn't be too much worrying.
theLolipro said:
Thanks I thought of the same points. But rather switching later thought to make my switch now.
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:good: Thank you so much for the time you took for giving me a reply. I don't want to earn from making apps. I'm a free and open source developer and my profession is linux (for now ). Using map is one of my conserns. I don't like playing games on mobile as due to tiny screen. Even playing angry birds on mobile is less effective than using a large monitor. So I'm not conserned about it.
About shopping list. Well I have a similar idea to develop a free app for keep tracking things you do.
Again thank you very much. Your very explaintory answer have opned new use cases for me. God sake you are a good technical writer. May I ask you, are you a QA or Analysist? Because you know how to reply and give use cases.
Thank you guys. I guess I found the answer. But one more small problem. is buying android 2.3 device Alcatel OT-903 will be enough? It's a low price phone and if it didn't worth it I wouldn't be too much worrying.
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Honestly I wouldn't buy any phone with 2.3 and down them were the worst of android days when they were working out the kinks ICS and up is awesome but if you plan on putting a custom ROM on it it won't matter as you can get the latest version just make sure the phone has good devoloment. Even the crappiest of phones can be turned into a awesome device
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I agree with Pennycake. One other thing that I would like to add is that with the convenience of having a smartphone you will find yourself using the features a lot more then you anticipate now.
I do not understand what do you mean "normal phone"?; since Android is already a standard of a phone.
OP - You know what answer you would get if you come and ask it an android forum!
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Lifehacker7 said:
OP - You know what answer you would get if you come and ask it an android forum!
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Maybe some Apple spy are on this forum and trying to tune the Android users back to IOS
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Thanks for replies again.
bbrad said:
Honestly I wouldn't buy any phone with 2.3 and down them were the worst of android days when they were working out the kinks ICS and up is awesome but if you plan on putting a custom ROM on it it won't matter as you can get the latest version just make sure the phone has good devoloment. Even the crappiest of phones can be turned into a awesome device
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Well since I'm a linux developer I'm willing to try out the hacking and cracking in hardcore way. But the problem is how to determine whether the device can be installed with 4.0 ? I found that on this forums there is custom rom for alcatel phone but is it available for OT 903-d ?
pbmurdoc said:
I agree with Pennycake. One other thing that I would like to add is that with the convenience of having a smartphone you will find yourself using the features a lot more then you anticipate now.
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Yes that something I'm not willing to do. I want to keep my life simple. You know enjoy the life away from tech. I'm now seriously addicted to computer and developments and I wanna get away from that.
Dan Law 001 said:
I do not understand what do you mean "normal phone"?; since Android is already a standard of a phone.
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Good one
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OP - You know what answer you would get if you come and ask it an android forum!
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Yes but I want to get a satisfactory answers and persepective from experiance user. What they are using it for etc.
Dan Law 001 said:
Maybe some Apple spy are on this forum and trying to tune the Android users back to IOS
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Never. I'm more linux fan. Never going to be jailed and sacrifise my freedom. I might try Ubuntu phone but definitely not some crappy os.
well ive tried blackberry, iphone 4/4s, nokia and androids. GB, ICS... i like androids the best. it let u roam free to ur imaginations. lots of possibility.
Dan Law 001 said:
Maybe some Apple spy are on this forum and trying to tune the Android users back to IOS
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LOL that was for me?
I said that positively. I own an android too.
I ain't an isheep.!
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Of course you should go with android phone. Now a days android phone are available in very affordable price with all latest features.
Android has much more advantages of apps and stuff and mobility.. you'll never know until you buy..
But then again, Firefox Os and Ubuntu Os are coming up..
If you're a Linux fan, May be wait for an Ubuntu mobile Os i.e.,if you can wait.
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May be you can borrow android or normal phone in your friend, and try it. it will help you to make the decision.
theLolipro said:
Well since I'm a linux developer I'm willing to try out the hacking and cracking in hardcore way. But the problem is how to determine whether the device can be installed with 4.0 ? I found that on this forums there is custom rom for alcatel phone but is it available for OT 903-d ?
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Well let's put it this way I have a 3yr old phone a Samsung fascinate the first galaxy's phone to come to verizen its over 3yrs has a single core hummingbird proccesor. You would think this phone sucks right? Nope you know 4.2.2 only came out like 3 days ago we already have it lol and our phone beats most dual cores its amazing what good devoloment and we have over 10 ROMs just for 4.x any its do easy to work no locked anything now if you want a phone like that go with a nexus or Samsung Device There the only people who makes phones completely open no locked boot loader all it takes is a click to root and hundreds of ROMs so just asking as you get a nexus or Samsung device I think you will be happy.
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kamendra said:
Of course you should go with android phone. Now a days android phone are available in very affordable price with all latest features.
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This is so true since Apple is just keep making technology expensive and exclusive and dividing social classes while Android is always trying to make good technology for everyone. Just look at those Chinese companies like ZTE and Huawei, few years before, their phones are just CRAP and now as they all use Android OS, their phone just got a new life.
I would go with android phone. In my opinion it is better than the other operation systems and the phones that are using it are the best at the moment.
Hi guys,
I did not find a single thread to match this question i have and so i created this thread (if a thread is available to answer my question, please redirect me and delete this thread mods ).
I recently acquired an iPad 1 with it's latest firmware being iOS 5.1.1. It is really annoying that i can't even edit a MS Word document xD (No offence but i really HATE iOS.) So i was wondering if there is anything at all i can do about it and probably, you know, install android or ubuntu or ANYTHING other than iOS? (i know it sounds stupid but this is my first iOS device that i have and i have no hell of an idea how to use, what to do with iOS or why it even exists! It is not really unbelievable for me because i used XDA on 2 of my windows phones earlier.) Any help appreciated
I think chromeOS and Linux have been successfully installed on ipads but they were more proof of concept and not really functional. If you are looking for everyday use I think you're stuck with iOS
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Thanks for the heads up. In any case, all i want to do is use it for editing text documents (MS Word - .docx) and play music. Obviously it can play music so no worries. Coming to the text editor, i did try a couple apps that were compatible with 5.1.1 but it crashes instantly. Did not find a proper "fix" on google. Do you have ANY idea on how to accomplish this? for if this is done, i have no need to worry about doing anything to it. lol
Really? You are using a 6 years old device with a 6 years old OS and you say iOS sucks?
Sorry if I hurt your feelings man... I am using an age-old samsung android phone running gingerbread. I still can install ALL essential apps and use it to it's fullest. so yeah, i am using a 6 year old device running a 6 year old OS with which i cannot install a small text editor and i did say iOS sucks
I can afford a new android tablet but the thing is this was a tab used by one of my family members for quite some time and he is no more now. it serves as a memory of that wonderful man. I don't mean to offend anyone here.
@HawkEye
I know this thread is quite old, but I also just recently was given an iPad 1 and was looking for some "updates". What I came across is "Grayd00r" (https://www.grayd00r.com/), which says bringing some new life into this old device. this might be something for you.
P.S.: I agree that you not always need the newest hardware - it always depends on your personal needs what you want to do with the phone/pad/etc.
travelbug said:
@HawkEye
I know this thread is quite old, but I also just recently was given an iPad 1 and was looking for some "updates". What I came across is "Grayd00r" (https://www.grayd00r.com/), which says bringing some new life into this old device. this might be something for you.
P.S.: I agree that you not always need the newest hardware - it always depends on your personal needs what you want to do with the phone/pad/etc.
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Years later, I face the same issue... Cant even get the browser to load. Anyone got anything for an ipad 1? Grayd00r is for sale now
@vageye8lktard
You may want to check https://www.reddit.com/r/Grayd00r/