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Let's discuss what wall and car chargers you have been able to charge the phone with.
I haven't bought it yet, but the Tronsmart 33 watt dual charger for the car looks promising: https://goo.gl/a3vada
I have a Tronsmart quick charge 3.0 home charger right now, but I don't have my phone yet. When I'm able to test it, I'll let everyone know.
Of course, if you are going to use a USB A to USB C cable, make sure it isn't a cheap one. Apparently there are reports of bad cables that may short out.
A question I have is: Can we get the full use of the Turbocharge with a USB A to USB C cable? Or do we need to go straight USB C to USB C? ANSWER, according to @tea_dub84: Possible that you will need USB C to USB C cables to achieve fastest charging.
Some helpful information:
Discussion on charging: Moto Z Force's TurboPower™: QuickCharge or USB-PD?
Some people who have had luck with Turbocharging:
@blynkofaneye: Aukey Wall Charger, Aukey Car Charger
Chargers that do NOT turbocharge:
@hbar98: Quick Charge 3.0, CHOETECH 6-Port USB Charging Station with 2 Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 Ports, USB A to C Cable and Charger Cradle for OnePlus 3 LG G5, Galaxy S6/S7/Edge, HTC 10, iPhone, iPad and More
hbar98 said:
I know it's kind of early to post this, but if anyone can post chargers for home or the car that work with the Moto Z, I'm sure that would help others out greatly.
I haven't bought it yet, but the Tronsmart 33 watt dual charger for the car looks promising: https://goo.gl/a3vada
I have a Tronsmart quick charge 3.0 home charger right now, but I don't have my phone yet. When I'm able to test it, I'll let everyone know.
Of course, if you are going to use a USB A to USB C cable, make sure it isn't a cheap one. Apparently there are reports of bad cables that may short out.
A question I have is: Can we get the full use of the Turbocharge with a USB A to USB C cable? Or do we need to go straight USB C to USB C?
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Most definitely going to need usb c to usb c for the fastest charging. With a usb a end I believe the best amp rating we can get is 2.4a but usually around 2. To turbo charge the Moto Z and for it to recognize turbo charging you need at least 5v at 3amps (15watts). The stock turbo charger outputs 5v at 5.7 amps (28.5watts). Our phones don't follow Qualcomm quick charge standards. I believe our phones follow the usb power delivery standard for charging.
I gave up looking and went to the local Verizon store. I was having an issue that the only charger that would charge my moto mod battery, Incipio, was the supplied charger with the phone.
They had usb c chargers in stock. I tested out the home charger and it turbo charged my phone then started to charge the battery mod. Then tested the usb c car charger and it turbo charged my phone then switched to charging the mod.
So needless to say I'm satisfied.
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mobrules777 said:
I gave up looking and went to the local Verizon store. I was having an issue that the only charger that would charge my moto mod battery, Incipio, was the supplied charger with the phone.
They had usb c chargers in stock. I tested out the home charger and it turbo charged my phone then started to charge the battery mod. Then tested the usb c car charger and it turbo charged my phone then switched to charging the mod.
So needless to say I'm satisfied.
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Guess Ill be getting the verizon car charger, thank you for that wasnt sure it would turbo charge...or charge at all...Ive had problems with verizon branded chargers in the past
LeeMullinsII said:
Guess Ill be getting the verizon car charger, thank you for that wasnt sure it would turbo charge...or charge at all...Ive had problems with verizon branded chargers in the past
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Any chargers (home and car) online that use usb-c to usb-c cables should turbo charge the phone...
NONE of them (including the VZW) will charge as fast as the one that came in the box...but they will turbo charge
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First picture is using the Verizon usb c fast charger. Not bad and it did pop up saying turbo charging.
Just to compare the second photo is using the supplied charger that came with phone. Huge difference.
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Metfanant said:
Any chargers (home and car) online that use usb-c to usb-c cables should turbo charge the phone...
NONE of them (including the VZW) will charge as fast as the one that came in the box...but they will turbo charge
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Any USB C to C charger will *work*, but they won't turbo charge since Motorola doesn't use QC 2 or 3. It uses the USB C charging standard with a twist. I have tried a couple chargers, and the phone will always pop up a box telling that to enable turbocharge I need to use a turbocharge charger, etc...
The Z Force charges with a 5v at 5.7a, and many chargers won't put out that much power. I've seen a lot of 3a and 5a chargers, but few 5.7a.
If you're lucky enough to have a USB C port on a PC/Mac, it will turbo charge the phone as fast as the stock charger, provided you use a good quality C to C cable. It will also let you transfer data to the phone at insane speeds.
Verizon sells TWO car chargers that are Type-C one of them states Qualcomm QC 3.0 and the other does not but both show they are rated at 5V/3A (15 watts)
Has anyone tried one with the VZ branding? If so, which model was it? SKU #TYPECPDQC3VPC or SKU #TYPECPDVPC ?
So I ended up getting the SKU #TYPECPDQC3VPC and it works fine in turbo mode. Go with that one for the car!
I picked up the following charger from amazon with a discount from snagshout.com. Seems to work as it should, have only used it twice though.
Quick Charge 3.0 Silipower 39W car charger attached 3.3ft USB-C connector for 5V 3A charging Nexus 5X/6P, HTC 10 & other Type-C Devices, QC3.0 for LG G4/G5, Galaxy S7/S6/Edge, HTC| Qualcomm Certified
I'm Brazillian and I bought the AUKEY Car Charger mentioned on the first post on Ebay and it works with Turbo Charger. I have a Moto Z Play (XT1635-02).
In Portuguese :
Sou Brasileiro e comprei o Aukey Car Charger citado no primeiro post pelo Ebay e carregou com o Turbo Charger. Tenho um Moto Z Play (XT1635-02)
I've got a Pixel charger I use at home, and a Verizon QC3/USB-PD vehicle charger
Vehicle - https://goo.gl/Pa1QWW
I bought this charger :
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Type-C-5-Port-Charger-PowerPort/dp/B01D8C6ULO/
It works perfectly on turbo power via the usb c port.
It follows a Motorola Proprietary Power Delivery, compatible with other USB Type-C Power Delivery devices up to 5V/3A max
The Verizon TYPECPDQC3VPC, TYPECPDVPC car chargers and TYPECPDQC3TVL wall charger will charge 5V/3A. (I bought mine off ebay as Verizon/Xentris non-branded for $9 each~ YMMV)
Reference https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...f_TX8/pubhtml#
I think most usb type-c PD chargers will "fast charge" up to 5V/3A, only the Motorola TubroPower 30 has the capability to do 5V/5.7A proprietary "turbo charge".. It was $20 shipped on Verizon 'til recently, that's where I bought mine.
I bought this charger for home, it's the verizon oem from xentris with the logo marked over. http://www.ebay.com/itm/351967678957
clockcycle said:
I bought this charger for home, it's the verizon oem from xentris with the logo marked over. http://www.ebay.com/itm/351967678957
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And does it turbo charge?
Does anybody know of a car charger that does turbo charge the Moto Z? Apparently Motorola/Lenovo doesn't offer one and a third party QuickCharge 3.0 I tried failed...
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I got this one :Nekteck 5.4A USB-C Car Charger from Amazon for 15$ and it does turbo charge my phone .
I don't believe that the Z Force is set up for Qualcomm Quick Charge. And while it doesn't Turbo charge, I use the Verizon brand rapid USB-C car charger. I've also read that we have to be careful with what charging cables we use with our Z Force phones.
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zaki67 said:
I got this one :Nekteck 5.4A USB-C Car Charger from Amazon for 15$ and it does turbo charge my phone .
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Thank you, I will try that one then ?.
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karlmf said:
I don't believe that the Z Force is set up for Qualcomm Quick Charge. And while it doesn't Turbo charge, I use the Verizon brand rapid USB-C car charger. I've also read that we have to be careful with what charging cables we use with our Z Force phones.
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At least Motorola claims it supports QuickCharge if I'm not mistaken. Apparently, though, it also has additional requirements for turbo charging to kick in... I looked at the Verizon charger, too, but a) there's not much info on its website, b) calling Verizon didn't help - they don't have a clue, and c) there is some comment / review saying that it "burned out" some user's battery (which is of course unconfirmed to be related to this charger, may have been something else).
Anyways, given the utter lack of info and the suspicion of harming the battery, I stayed away from it... not to mention the ridiculous $40 price tag.
On an other note, though, Verizon has the original Motorola TurboCharger (wall charger) at a 50% discount.
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pb1379 said:
At least Motorola claims it supports QuickCharge if I'm not mistaken. Apparently, though, it also has additional requirements for turbo charging to kick in... I looked at the Verizon charger, too, but a) there's not much info on its website, b) calling Verizon didn't help - they don't have a clue, and c) there is some comment / review saying that it "burned out" some user's battery (which is of course unconfirmed to be related to this charger, may have been something else).
Anyways, given the utter lack of info and the suspicion of harming the battery, I stayed away from it... not to mention the ridiculous $40 price tag.
On an other note, though, Verizon has the original Motorola TurboCharger (wall charger) at a 50% discount.
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No USB-C device can support Quick Charge - it violates the USB-C spec. Any quality USB-C charger that is higher amp will TurboCharge a phone. Moto screwed up by using TurboCharging name with both QuickCharge and USB-C - they are different.
The Moto Z is absurdly picky when it comes to quick charge specs.
I have a Blitzwolf QC2.0 with a type C and a Type A connector in my wifes car, and it will ONLY enter quick charge if I use the Type C to Type C cable I bought from Blitzwolf.
It will not turbo charge if I use a high end Type A to Type C cable, but my wifes LG G5 will do so happily.
I also bought a QC3 compatible charger, with the cable integrated like the original charger, and this works too, and is faster than the QC2 charger.
Both are definitely charging at more than 10 watts, the maximum for 5V 2A mode chargers.
And in fact, using a Non-QC 5V 3A charger, caused my cable to melt, and start to glow.
Incredibly my phone charging port survived.
Blitzwolf may very well be the only brand that works fully, as I just bought a Chuwi QC3 power bank, and it will refuse to quick charge my phone.
But works on some others.
And on another note, I used the Type C to Type C in a modern laptop a while back, and when I plugged it in, my phone displayed the message about receiving quick charge.
If I'm not mistaken, the Type C spec allows quick charging, but only if you use C to C, with the extra pins it's able to keep better track of the charging process I guess.
Shadowdancer123 said:
The Moto Z is absurdly picky when it comes to quick charge specs.
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And on another note, I used the Type C to Type C in a modern laptop a while back, and when I plugged it in, my phone displayed the message about receiving quick charge.
If I'm not mistaken, the Type C spec allows quick charging, but only if you use C to C, with the extra pins it's able to keep better track of the charging process I guess.
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Yes, it seems all matter of cables...!
I have a Blitzwolf QC3.0 too BUT I'm able to obtain "Turbocharge" indication only using a *single* micro USB to type C adaptor. This with every cable and every charger. Even when connected to a USB port!
If I use every other cable or similar adaptors (I've tested many...), the "Turbocharge" never shows (except original charger obviously...).
With Blitzwolf QC3 and this cable/adaptor I got a full charge from less than 5% in about 70-75 min... during the charge cable was OK, while the adaptor (with metallic/aluminium exterior) was quite warm but never really hot in dangerous way...
Here's more information than any of you probably care about, but I'm tired of seeing the same misinformation and confusion being thrown around (not just in the Moto Z forum, but in a bunch of others, too).
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No USB-C device can support Quick Charge - it violates the USB-C spec.
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That's not true. Case in point: my ZTE Axon 7 and LeEco S3 both use QC 3.0 and both are USB-C. The common confusion comes from using "USB-C" (a connector) and "Type-C" (interchangeably used to refer to the connector and the power specification) incorrectly. Clarification below.
chromedome00 said:
Any quality USB-C charger that is higher amp will TurboCharge a phone. Moto screwed up by using TurboCharging name with both QuickCharge and USB-C - they are different.
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This is mostly true. "TurboPower" is the stupid name Moto uses to refer to the Type-C power specification. Actually, I'm being unfair: it's confusing that they called it "Type-C" in the first place and Moto took the opportunity to market the spec as their own thing.
Before going any further, let's use a common analogy to make the relationship between, wattage, voltage, and amperage easier to understand in broad terms. Wattage is the amount of water going through a pipe. Voltage is how fast that water is moving and amperage is the size of the pipe. 15W is 15W, but you can get there by having a tiny pipe (1A) with water moving really fast through it (15V) or a really big pipe (3A) with water going more slowly through it (5V). They both move the same amount of power, but in different ways. Got it? Good.
Anyway, Type-C has a fixed voltage and maxes out at 15W ([email protected]). Quick Charge 1.0 does only 10W ([email protected]), 2.0 does 18W (5/9/12V @ 3.6/2/1.5A respectively), and 3.0 does 18W with varying voltage (3.6-20V) and amperage (5-0.9A) to match. That is the advantage of QC over Type-C: a higher voltage can (usually) be run through those old and cheap USB cables without issue since voltage tolerance is determined largely by the phone and the charger. As long as the amperage doesn't exceed the capacity (gauge) of the wire, higher voltage is fine.
Amperage, though, that's what causes non-compliant or crappy cables to burn up. Really old or especially cheap cables can handle 1A max (heck, if they were built to spec, only 500mA for USB 2.0), but most cables of reasonable quality can handle 2A without much issue. They tend to use lower gauge (thicker) wires and should *not* feel warm at all when using it to charge. Some manufacturers (Samsung, for example) used to disable data on their USB cables and use it for additional amperage capacity, which is why you would occasionally buy a phone with a cable that wouldn't work for data transfer in the computer but would charge your phone just fine.
Moving on. Technically, QC 1.0 and QC 3.0 do not violate the Type-C power spec. QC 1.0 because it can't exceed it and QC 3.0 because it's variable. That said, QC 3.0 (and possibly QC 1.0, I don't know) require protocol negotiation; if that negotiation is lacking (in the case of the Moto Z), it's going to default to a "safe" charging rate (around 5W, plus or minus some). Your QC 2.0 does technically violate the Type-C spec because its voltage and amperage rates are fixed: you can get 5V at up to 3.6A. The "up to" bit is the important part. I have seen in various threads folks claiming their non-QC 3.0 phones will work with QC 2.0 chargers just fine and it's probably because the amperage tolerance is there (ie. it will actually allow 3.6A, violating spec) or it gets throttled (ie. sticks to 3A, keeping to spec).
Shadowdancer123 said:
The Moto Z is absurdly picky when it comes to quick charge specs.
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And in fact, using a Non-QC 5V 3A charger, caused my cable to melt, and start to glow.
Incredibly my phone charging port survived.
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If I'm not mistaken, the Type C spec allows quick charging, but only if you use C to C, with the extra pins it's able to keep better track of the charging process I guess.
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All Type-C and USB-PD compliant devices are picky about the charge specs, not just the Moto Z. Or, at least, they're supposed to be for the reasons outlined above (namely the amperage). QC devices are less picky because it frequently uses higher voltage, which we established above as being much more tolerable for cables of varying quality.
Your cable melting and glowing is to be expected when you push 3A through a cable that likely can't handle more than 2A or so. Your phone charging port survived because it's designed to handle 3A.
I'm not entirely sure about which pins do what on a USB-C connector, but you're right in the C-to-C is the only connection that (should, according to spec) support Type-C and USB-PD (Power Delivery). The rate is negotiated via the USB Power Delivery 2.0 "power rules", which define four acceptable voltages (5/9/15/20) and variable amperage (0.1-5) to obtain charge rates as low as 0.5W and as high as 100W. "Type-C" is part of the Power Delivery spec, but is usually limited to only the 5V rule. I'm fairly certain the Moto Z does not support anything past the first level power rule, which is why you likely won't find the Moto Z to charge significantly faster with the TurboPower 30 included with the Moto Z Force than it does with its original TurboPower 15 charger. No clue as to whether that's a hardware or software limitation.
Also, to answer the OP's original question: any reputable (Anker, Aukey, Choetech, Belkin, etc) that uses an actual USB-C port will work. Most (if not all) dual port units will have a USB-C port that will work with the Moto Z (or any other Type-C/USB-PD device) and a QC 3.0 compatible "traditional" USB-A port. I have yet to find one that includes two USB-C ports and I really hate the ones with integrated cables.
My personal favorite is the Choetech for $16 since its QC 3.0 USB-A port is reversible: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AAGH8OY/
This Aukey is cheaper ($15) and would be fine: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01E764DXM/
Here's a Tronsmart for $16, as well: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018K7LHBU/
Even this $10 Vinsic should be okay: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014F2NQ36/
Just for funsies, here's a spreadsheet of the Benson Leung cable and charger tests: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJwqv3rTNmORXz-XJsQaXK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit#gid=0
Interestingly, the $10 Vinsic is on his list of approved. So there. Go buy a $10 car charger and be happy.
I have the aukey 6 port usb charging station with two QC 3.0 ports, I am using high quality braided usb 3.0 to type c cables - I have tested both QC 3.0 ports and the other ports (using ampere) - Every port lists charging as "normal" - QC port 1 shows a min of 640mA and a max of 1040mA. QC Port 2 shows - min of 530 mA and a max of 980 mA. Regular ports 3-6 all show a min of 270mA and max of 870 mA. Not one port indicated it was ever turbo or fast charging. This same charger does fast charge my lg G5 and Samsung S7 Edge.
this one is verified to give the "TurboPower connected" message when plugged in.
From what I have read, both QC 2.0 and 3.0 doesn't turbo charge moto phones. Qualcomms QC charging works by increasing the voltage and decreasing the amps. So you can have 12v and 2amp for a total of 24 watts, but that won't turbo charge the moto z. Moto works on 5 volts but needs at least 3 amps. It is the amps that seem to engage the Motos into turbo charge mode, and they have to be at least 3 amps.
This Belkin model, for example, is what Benson Leung uses for his pixel xl. Its one of the few on Amazon that is USB-IF certified for 5v 3amp.
rczrider said:
Here's more information than any of you probably care about, but I'm tired of seeing the same misinformation and confusion being thrown around (not just in the Moto Z forum, but in a bunch of others, too).
That's not true. Case in point: my ZTE Axon 7 and LeEco S3 both use QC 3.0 and both are USB-C. The common confusion comes from using "USB-C" (a connector) and "Type-C" (interchangeably used to refer to the connector and the power specification) incorrectly. Clarification below.
Moving on. Technically, QC 1.0 and QC 3.0 do not violate the Type-C power spec. QC 1.0 because it can't exceed it and QC 3.0 because it's variable. That said, QC 3.0 (and possibly QC 1.0, I don't know) require protocol negotiation; if that negotiation is lacking (in the case of the Moto Z), it's going to default to a "safe" charging rate (around 5W, plus or minus some). Your QC 2.0 does technically violate the Type-C spec because its voltage and amperage rates are fixed: you can get 5V at up to 3.6A. The "up to" bit is the important part. I have seen in various threads folks claiming their non-QC 3.0 phones will work with QC 2.0 chargers just fine and it's probably because the amperage tolerance is there (ie. it will actually allow 3.6A, violating spec) or it gets throttled (ie. sticks to 3A, keeping to spec).
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I think you are propagating mis-information. If you want to catch up on why QC 2.0/3.0 violate the USB-C spec, here it is from the horses mouth:
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/cEvVQLXhyRX
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...omm-quick-charge-with-android-incompatibility
Interestingly Qualcomm has QC 4.0 now and they call out integration with USB-C and USB-PD https://www.qualcomm.com/news/relea...livers-20-faster-charging-improved-efficiency
"Quick Charge 4 also integrates USB Type-C and USB-PD support, making the industry’s most popular battery charging solution available on the widest variety of cables and adapters."
USB-C has 24 pins while standard USB-A has 4. Quick Charge chargers (2.0/3.0) only have the 4 pins of USB-A - so if it can't use the data lines, then it can't quick charge via USB-C. Since there are only 4 outputs, plugging a USB-C cable into a QC 2.0/3.0 charger will not change anything. Still only 4 wires originating from the charger. The data lines are not allowed to be used for voltage, so your QC charger will only supply a fixed 5V to the phone. So no Quick Charge.
If QC3 supports [email protected] couldn't it supply power at [email protected] to turbocharge?
Looking for a solution to turbocharge my Moto Z and support QC3 for LG G5/Samsung S7.
The TurboPower 15 wall charger delivers hours of power in just minutes of charging. It includes micro USB and single USB charging cables so you can use it on compatible smartphones, tablets, digital cameras and more.
Have a Moto Z or another USB-C enabled device? The TurboPower 30 wall charger is USB-C compatible.
Looking for a car charger? Shop at Motorola Home.
zaki67 said:
I got this one :Nekteck 5.4A USB-C Car Charger from Amazon for 15$ and it does turbo charge my phone .
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Just ordered one of these. This one specifically
Hopefully it'll work out well
This one works fine.
https://store.google.com/product/belkin_15w_usb_c_car_charger
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swejuggalo said:
This one works fine.
https://store.google.com/product/belkin_15w_usb_c_car_charger
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YES! I can confirm it!
I own the Moto Z that came with Motorola 15w Turbo Charger (the grey turbo writing on the USB-C end, it's also the All-in-one charger too) but I wanted a substitute incase anything were to happen to it so
I purchased a bunch of USB-C to USB-A Cables, I also purchased two quick chargers. The first being the:
Tronsmart Rapid Wall Charger QC 3.0 18W, which is supposed to output 3.6V-6.5V/3A, 6.5V-9V/2A, 9V-12V/1.5A. And the second, the:
Motorola Turbo Charger QC 2.0 15W, which outputs Standard: 5V / 1.67A (8W) TurboPower 1: 9V / 1.67A (15W) TurboPower 2: 12V / 1.2A (15W)
Neither of these two chargers managed to trigger the "TurboPower Connected" pop up, I also downloaded Ampere and did some tests on them, but they show that the amperage caps at 1500mAh. Is there a reason for this and also could somebody suggest a guaranteed substitute charger that triggers the pop up?
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I own the Moto Z that came with Motorola 15w Turbo Charger (the grey turbo writing on the USB-C end, it's also the All-in-one charger too) but I wanted a substitute incase anything were to happen to it so
I purchased a bunch of USB-C to USB-A Cables, I also purchased two quick chargers. The first being the:
Tronsmart Rapid Wall Charger QC 3.0 18W, which is supposed to output 3.6V-6.5V/3A, 6.5V-9V/2A, 9V-12V/1.5A. And the second, the:
Motorola Turbo Charger QC 2.0 15W, which outputs Standard: 5V / 1.67A (8W) TurboPower 1: 9V / 1.67A (15W) TurboPower 2: 12V / 1.2A (15W)
Neither of these two chargers managed to trigger the "TurboPower Connected" pop up, I also downloaded Ampere and did some tests on them, but they show that the amperage caps at 1500mAh. Is there a reason for this and also could somebody suggest a guaranteed substitute charger that triggers the pop up?
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Are you using a Motorola turbo charge brick? Like the one in the box with the Nexus 6. If not then there's your issue. You can only acquire turbo charging speed through one of those and it'll turbo charge your phone through any USB cable since the cable is only a vessel used to flow voltage. Hope this helps!
Motorola SPN5864A TurboPower 15 Charger with Original Data/Charging Cable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01012U6D2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_T1QQybJJS0ZW5
I have the first turbo charger (QC2) and it didn't work on my Moto Z. I think that Z isn't compatible with Qualcomm Quick Charge technology; Moto probably uses USB-C capabilities for the Turbo Charge.
(haha sorry for my bad english)
galopez783 said:
I have the first turbo charger (QC2) and it didn't work on my Moto Z. I think that Z isn't compatible with Qualcomm Quick Charge technology; Moto probably uses USB-C capabilities for the Turbo Charge.
(haha sorry for my bad english)
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Thank you for your response, I found out that using a fast charger that has a USB-C output on the charger, triggers the TurboPower Charge. So you would need a USB-C to USB-C cable with an Output Fast Charger of USB-C, as the charging current is higher.
galopez783 said:
I have the first turbo charger (QC2) and it didn't work on my Moto Z. I think that Z isn't compatible with Qualcomm Quick Charge technology; Moto probably uses USB-C capabilities for the Turbo Charge.
(haha sorry for my bad english)
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Are you using a Motorola turbo charge brick? Like the one in the box with the Nexus 6. If not then there's your issue. You can only acquire turbo charging speed through one of those and it'll turbo charge your phone through any USB cable since the cable is only a vessel used to flow voltage. Hope this helps!
Motorola SPN5864A TurboPower 15 Charger with Original Data/Charging Cable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01012U6D2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_T1QQybJJS0ZW5
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Thank you for your response, I bought a fast charger with a USB-C output, that came with a USB-C to USB-C cable and it triggered the TurboPower pop up.
If you can get to a Verizon Wireless store or just want to hit them up on their website, the TurboPower 30 is currently on sale for $19.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/motorola-turbopower-30-usb-type-c-wall-charger/
Check this out:
Replacement turbo charger
Hey derdjango, did you order and test this charger? Is it original or at least compareable to the stock charger?
Location is China - maybe this is a fake/replica.
Thanks!
Same charger for even less: http://www.ebay.de/itm/152549160402 / http://www.ebay.com/itm/152549160402
Ordered one today. In a month or so I can give you guys feedback.
Hey Weirdos,
left replacement, right out of the box charger (EU).
TurboPower connected :good:
USB-C charging cable supports 3A current while normal micro USB charging cable only supports 1.8A current, so you need an Original Data/Charging USB-C cable.
I lost my turbo charger and yesterday i charged Moto Z with the original charger from my Zuk z1. And guess what...turbo charging enabled. Then i tried the Zuk Z2 charger and it also turbo charges. I know that Zuk and Moto are both Lenovo, but i did not expect it to work with a charger from 2015.
Maybe comes handy if someone has those lying around. I pressume chargers from Zuk Edge and 2 Pro should also be turbocharging the Z
Does turbo charging require anything special?
Or are these normal chargers with 3A/USB C?
chbla said:
Does turbo charging require anything special?
Or are these normal chargers with 3A/USB C?
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Charger with hardwired USB C cable or charger with USB C port with an USB C to C cable. And rated for 3A. As far as I know that would be the things needed.
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Is charging Moto by old chargers unrecommended (1A, 5V)? I've read, that fast charging kills our batteries faster than normal
So the data port on my Moto G3 is failing (loose), so I ordered a replacement part and figured I would keep it as a backup phone and move on to the Moto G6 as my main phone. I need a multi-port wall and car charger as mine are very old (As in single 5V voltage at 1 amp per port max) and figured that would be easy, just pick them up on Amazon.............NOT. I spent an entire day trying to figure out what was compatible with the phone (voltages, currents, wattages, fast charging technology) and as far as I can tell there is nothing out there. This is not just Motorola, as other manufacturers have their own standards. This really needs to be standardized.
I then contacted Anker. I mean come on, they have got to know right?. Here was their reply yesterday:
"But so sorry that the Moto G6 uses the exclusive turbo charge technology, we cannot guarantee 100% that our QC charger (Moto Turbo-charging is a quick charge technology based on QC) could charge the device fastly. "
It is bad enough every time I buy a new phone everything changes and I have to buy new chargers, cases, cables, sim cards, SD cards, etc. I am not saying that is a bad thing, as these technology changes usually mean improvements in speed, usability, reliability, etc. I just don't want to buy all this new stuff and have chargers that won't work with other devices I might buy shortly or be obsolete in months instead of years.
I guess I have to hold off until all of this stabilizes and standardizes. Thanks to Lineage my obsolete Moto G3 (According to Motorola) still runs great and has the latest security updates. My only concern is that the battery will be the next to go.
Every USB C charger I have plugged into my G6 has been compatible with turbopower charging... have used 3, one that came with it, my nexus 5X charger, and a cheap charging dock I got on amazon...
Could someone tell me what the model # and output electrical values are (Volts / Amps / Watts) that are written on the stock charger for the Moto G6. Motorola sells two different wall chargers with different specs. The output values should be specified as V / A/ W for 5V, 9V, and 12V.
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Could someone tell me what the model # and output electrical values are (Volts / Amps / Watts) that are written on the stock charger for the Moto G6. Motorola sells two different wall chargers with different specs. The output values should be specified as V / A/ W for 5V, 9V, and 12V.
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The charger I have for my G6 is either model SC-22 or SPN5993A (it's hard for me to tell next to all of this Chinese writing). The output is either 5V, 9V, or 12V.
Thanks. I was considering getting the on sale Moto G6 64 bit version today as it was only $259, but it is only available in the Indigo color. I will wait until the regular price lowers and the whole charging thing gets resolved. I ordered a part to fix my Moto G3 in the meantime. I also have a Nexus 4 as a backup phone so i am good to go for a while.
I can check tomorrow to be sure, but I think it uses the 5V 3A charging standard. I have a USB meeter that I can plug into the charger at work and see what it does. I don't think it does the 9V or 12V fast charge.
You simply need a QC 2.0 or 3.0 charger. Easy day. Both will turbo charge the Motorola. Ive used dozens of different brands on a few different Motorolas and they all turbo charge.
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You simply need a QC 2.0 or 3.0 charger. Easy day. Both will turbo charge the Motorola. Ive used dozens of different brands on a few different Motorolas and they all turbo charge.
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Thanks. I will get QC 3.0 chargers, unless if and when I decide to buy the phone, QC 4.0+ chargers are released and work with the Moto G6. I am probably going to wait for a non-Amazon 64GB RAM model to be released.
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... I am probably going to wait for a non-Amazon 64GB RAM model to be released.
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Especially if you are interested in unlocking the bootloader.
I too, just recently found that a 4/64 version of the regular G6 is available, but have only found the Amazon Prime version. I contacted Motorola and asked why this version is not available on their web site. So waiting to hear back.
32GB internal storage is just not enough, especially in the case of the X4, with the OS taking up 13GB.
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Especially if you are interested in unlocking the bootloader.
I too, just recently found that a 4/64 version of the regular G6 is available, but have only found the Amazon Prime version. I contacted Motorola and asked why this version is not available on their web site. So waiting to hear back.
32GB internal storage is just not enough, especially in the case of the X4, with the OS taking up 13GB.
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Yes , unlocking the bootloader is the main issue. Also, Lenovo is terrible with OS and security updates, both not timely and eventually not supporting the phone all together, so I would need the capability to install a ROM eventually, like what I did with my Moto G3.
Anker PowerCore+ 26800 with Qualcomm QuickCharge 3.0 (version that includes PowerPort+ 1 wall charger) QC 3.0 port (blue one on the right) charges Moto G6 in TurboPower charging mode, also the charger that comes with it works same way, both charge phone very quickly. Just like charger that came with the phone.
Using Anker USB C 3.0 braided and PVC cables.
I'm guessing any Qualcomm QC 3.0 -type charger will run in TurboPower mode with this phone.
I can't verify quick charge but I can verify that any phone charger supporting power delivery (type c "standard" for charging fast and not proprietary like quick charge) will definitely activate turbocharging.
Edit... After scouring the internet for a few minutes I'd just stick with power delivery chargers as it seems that quick charge chargers (qualcomms proprietary fast charging method) is a mixed bag of results as the G6 doesn't officially support quick charge while if you purchase a power delivery charger it'll just work.
We have the Moto G6, Nexus 6P (Huawei) and Moto Nexus 6 - the OEM Moto charger with the OEM cable obviously enabled the Turbo charging mode, the same charger does fast charging on the Nexus 6P as well as the old Nexus 6. Traded into Google my old Nexus 5X but kept the OEM USB-C fast charger, which works with all these 3 smartphones, I can't recall at the moment whether it's Turbo and/or Fast charging mode, as I left that at home and we are traveling on the road this weekend.
What I've noticed is that, sometimes, it will depend on the specific USB-C cable that I am using and/or possibly using one of the "certified" USB-C adapter plug (with the resistor) and an OEM/quality micro-USB charging cable with all the pins wired correctly.
On the road, I've been using an Anker 4-usb port charger that put out 2.4 amp per port at 5V (up to a max of 7.2 amp ... average of 1.8 amp) and it does charging these 3 devices fast, maybe not "turbo" mode. The speed is more than good and quick enough, won't take overnight hours to bring it up to 100%.
Moto G6 is stock OEM rom whereas N6P and Nexus 6 are custom roms.
the moto g6 play also support turbocharge it just doesnt come with the turbocharger block. i used my cousins block from his z2 force and everytime i connect it the phone says "turbo power connected" the moto g6 play is also not usb-c. the block that came with the phone only does as the phone says "rapidly charging" so yea its kinda weird lol
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the moto g6 play also support turbocharge it just doesnt come with the turbocharger block. i used my cousins block from his z2 force and everytime i connect it the phone says "turbo power connected" the moto g6 play is also not usb-c. the block that came with the phone only does as the phone says "rapidly charging" so yea its kinda weird lol
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Thanks. I'm actually considering grabbing a g6 play as a backup/work phone. I have a g6 with the turbocharger block. I'll probably have to grab a block once I test the g6 play... I bought that phone for my dad and he loves it... unlocked, of course.
It works with standard PD (5V, 9V) charger when I making a reply
Just to reaffirm, it works with a Power Delivery (PD) charger. QC is not the supported charging standard on the G6. So buy a charger that uses the PD standard.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077HFFLMS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MA10GH9/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07214QNQX/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have both these charger blocks and those Anker cables. I don't have exact numbers but I know they charge my G6+ and my girlfriends X4 very fast and my G6+ says Turbo Power when connecting the charger.
Doesn't look like I already commented, but the Moto G6 uses the 5V 3A fast charge method, went to about 2.3A at most, it doesn't go to the 9v. I used a USB C amp meter that also shows voltage and is capable of fast charging. I know this works because it activates the Power delivery for my Chromebook with USB C and goes to 15V.
In general, there's two considerations here.
1.) Turbocharge is a fork of the QuickCharge specification. Anything rated for QuickCharge should work with it to some extent.
2.) the USB signalling is important. since the G6 uses a type C connector and specification, it is not technically always using the same signaling wires as USB 2.0, 3.0 type A (the big flat connector we all know and love)
So, if you're wanting to make sure everything works as it should, and is as broadly compatible as possible, make sure that the charger you are using is rated as at least Quickcharge 3.0, and that the cable you're using is certified for USB 3.1 (or 3.1 gen 2 as it is confusingly called) a lot of the USB-A to USB-c cables you'll find out there are actually usb 3.0 (also called USB 3.1 gen 1, ugh this naming convention), or even USB 2.0, cables with a type C connector slapped on them if you're getting some cheap chinese junk off amazon or ebay. Also remember that USB 3.1 cables are length sensetive, and should not be over 2 meteres (about 6 ft) long unless you are using what is called an 'active cable.' These have microchips in their connectors and are generally more expensive.
So, when it is about charging, this Galaxy S21+ (Exynos) can be really choosy. With a lot of chargers, it difficulty reach 1.3A. Only few of the selected chargers (my Lenovo 65Watt laptop charger, IKEA 27Watt charger) it could reach 2A charging with wired. For wireless charging, it's even worse. Currently I owned 3 wireless chargers.
1. Energizer 15Watt charger. Never even shows Fast Wireless Charging.
2. Samsung EB-U1200 Wireless Charging Power Bank. This one shows Fast Wireless charging. It could charge up to 2A for a while and then once the battery temp hits about 39C (and it hits there within 5 mins), it throttles.
3. Huawei SuperCharge 27Watt Wireless Charger (with Huawei 22.5Watt SuperCharge Charger and 5A cable), performs same as Samsung Power Bank. Reaches up to 2A, then battery heats up and throttles.
I've tried different ways, including removing the phone case while charging but result is still the same. Does any of you have similar experience? or is it just my phone? Please advise me how to make wireless charging more efficient.
I've not tried wireless charging however for wired you need a charger that supports USB C PD PPS (this is a fairly new standard) and without this you won't get anything more than about 2A.
This Ravpower charger for £16 (£13 with current voucher code) works a treat hitting 4.6A when the battery is empty reducing as the battery becomes full. You have to use USB C to USB C to achieve this.
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My guess is there will be a similar standard for wireless charging that you need to adhere to.