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[Q] T-Mobile Nexus One

This is a dumb question, and I'm pretty sure I know the answer already; but I'm looking for some verification of someone who might know better than myself. I am planning on buying the Nexus S the day it comes available/pre-order... But I have a specific question.
- I am eligible for money towards an upgrade with T-Mobile; but if I get the phone attached with the upgrade is it going to be straight Google? By that I mean, will T-Mobile now be given my phone to install bloat-wear and such? For example: I bought my Nexus One from the Google Store directly, so I can do tethering with-out T-Mobile adding their fee's and knowing about it (necessarily). I want to be sure there is no attachment to T-Mobile in anyway with regards to my phone. Or, should I just pay full price so there is no attachment to my carrier. All in all I have a year left in my contract and want to ride it out and switch carriers/go pre-paid; but it will save me some cash to just get the phone with the upgrade.
Help!

jlo5566 said:
This is a dumb question, and I'm pretty sure I know the answer already; but I'm looking for some verification of someone who might know better than myself. I am planning on buying the Nexus S the day it comes available/pre-order... But I have a specific question.
- I am eligible for money towards an upgrade with T-Mobile; but if I get the phone attached with the upgrade is it going to be straight Google? By that I mean, will T-Mobile now be given my phone to install bloat-wear and such? For example: I bought my Nexus One from the Google Store directly, so I can do tethering with-out T-Mobile adding their fee's and knowing about it (necessarily). I want to be sure there is no attachment to T-Mobile in anyway with regards to my phone. Or, should I just pay full price so there is no attachment to my carrier. All in all I have a year left in my contract and want to ride it out and switch carriers/go pre-paid; but it will save me some cash to just get the phone with the upgrade.
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as far as the bloat-wear goes, this phone is pure google. No additional software at all. Which is both a good and a bad thing since some phones include some nice extra software. t-mobiles wi-fi calling app in the G2 for example.
So the NS will be just like the N1 and be pure google.
As far as the tethering goes, google has said that creating the wi-fi hotspot will remain free even on a basic android t-mobile plan, so i would assume that tethering may be the same as well.

Tethering will be free
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Great! So just to be clear then: no disadvantage to using my T-Mobile upgrade to purchase the Nexus S (other than a new 2 yr contract...) Good news, get me some money towards my Nexus S!

I think the best deal now is to buy second hand now that the GS2 has come out, there is speculation about the next nexus, and that the current nexus might not get ice cream sandwich first.

[Q]I need some advice from someone who knows Verizon well (related to upgrades)

Hello,
I hope this is in the right place, I've only made a few posts on here, but I read this site daily. Thanks to everyone who contributes!
I have a quick question I googled around about and couldn't really find an answer too.
I am currently using a T-mobile galaxy S 3 on ST w/ an att sim, but I also have a line on my parents plan w/ an old kin two m feature phone that will be due for an upgrade in the spring. My parents firmly believe that smartphones and data plans are the devil...So we have a talk and text family plan w/ 4 feature phones on it. I am curious if there is any way that when the upgrade is available, I could use it to buy a smartphone(capable of unlock/gsm capabilities), and then continue to use my kin two on the plan.
Does upgrading to a smartphone, from a feature phone, require adding a dataplan to purchase the phone? If so can I add the data plan to a single line for a month, then remove it and switch back to the feature phone?
Sorry if my post doesn't really make sense, any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for your time!

wxcarne89 said:
Hello,
I hope this is in the right place, I've only made a few posts on here, but I read this site daily. Thanks to everyone who contributes!
I have a quick question I googled around about and couldn't really find an answer too.
I am currently using a T-mobile galaxy S 3 on ST w/ an att sim, but I also have a line on my parents plan w/ an old kin two m feature phone that will be due for an upgrade in the spring. My parents firmly believe that smartphones and data plans are the devil...So we have a talk and text family plan w/ 4 feature phones on it. I am curious if there is any way that when the upgrade is available, I could use it to buy a smartphone(capable of unlock/gsm capabilities), and then continue to use my kin two on the plan.
Does upgrading to a smartphone, from a feature phone, require adding a dataplan to purchase the phone? If so can I add the data plan to a single line for a month, then remove it and switch back to the feature phone?
Sorry if my post doesn't really make sense, any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for your time!
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You would add data and could take the phone off back to Kin 2. The problem is you would need to get a phone from VZW that is gsm capable. Their global offerings are lacking and in most cases are locked from using USA gsm signals. Checking newer phones' radios first would be a must.
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Thanks!
Hey, thanks for the input, it's appreciated.
Since I just got this S3 in early Oct I will probably hold onto the upgrade till next fall when hopefully a new note or something else cool is released, (saying that it could be unlocked for GSM). If i am lucky there will be more Verizon 4g LTE phones out that can be unlocked for GSM in a year from now. I never really expected that you would be able to unlock Verizon CDMA phones for GSM, but a guy in my CompTIA A+ cert. class said that his Verizon S3 could be unlocked for gsm and it got me thinking.
It's kinda a long story, but what got me asking about this I originally wanted a note/ note 2.
In September another forum member and I found two galaxy notes for $300 on CL, and the one I picked had motherboard problems of course(Avoid CL phones/tabs please!) I was luckily able to sell the phone for parts on ebay for $150 easily, but I still lost a little money on the unlock code, zagg, and a new S-pen. After that I really just needed a dependable phone fast, and couldn't really gamble on something used, or wait on the US Note 2 release, so I settled on the S3, so here next fall after i've had the phone for about a year hopefully i'll be able to upgrade to something new. I have grown to really like my S3 though.

Sprint/Virgin flash/clone curiousity

I hope that this isn't against the rules or in the wrong section but I have questions regarding my topic.
I'm a student so I don't have a ton of money. I've been without a phone for a few months now but I am really looking to get service again if its not too expensive. Currently it seems like VM offers the best deal with $35 a month for unlimited data/sms however they do that buy getting one to buy a new phone. $35 seems do-able for me but adding $300 is a bit too much for me.
I used to have a nexus s 4g when I was on sprint and I also have access to a sprint galaxy s2. Is there any way I can get either to work on Virgin?
Thanks a bunch

snowice0 said:
I hope that this isn't against the rules or in the wrong section but I have questions regarding my topic.
I'm a student so I don't have a ton of money. I've been without a phone for a few months now but I am really looking to get service again if its not too expensive. Currently it seems like VM offers the best deal with $35 a month for unlimited data/sms however they do that buy getting one to buy a new phone. $35 seems do-able for me but adding $300 is a bit too much for me.
I used to have a nexus s 4g when I was on sprint and I also have access to a sprint galaxy s2. Is there any way I can get either to work on Virgin?
Thanks a bunch
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If you have the galaxy S2, then yes you could use it on VM. You would probably have to make sure that it is unlocked. To get it unlocked you can pay someone or look up a website that offers the service because carriers tend to lock the device specifically for the carrier. Either way you shouldn't pay more that 50$ to unlock it and move your S2 over to VM.

thanks; unlocking it shouldn't be an issue so I'll see how things turn out.
I hope VM is down with it on their end though

[Q] New Verizon phone advise...

I am just a very short time away from being able to walk away from Big Red (feb 20). i am very reluctant to do so. I love the unlimited data. I am on an old alltel plan from yrs ago. So my question is if i stay with verizon what would be a great phone to purchase that should have a great development like my current phone the galaxy nexus. what phones are all these great developers using who still want to stay with verizon. I am seriously considering ordering the Note 3 Developer edition for verizon off of the samsung website. i am in line for one. they were on backorder. what do you think?

I have unlimited data on multiple lines, which is pretty much the only reason why I am still on VZW. They will probably kill all unlimited data plans either this year or next year, it is just a matter of time. When you give up VZW unlimited data, you will never get it back. Ever. Yes, T-mobile offers "unlimited" data but there is a catch: you are throttled after you go over 3 GB. So before you walk away from unlimited data, be sure you have your priorities in check. What is more important to you, having unlimited data or a phone that is not locked down? If it comes down to how much money you can save on another carrier, then that is another matter, and obviously a top priority for most people. But I would strongly encourage you to think about it long and hard before giving up unlimited data until VZW forces it.
Regarding your question about phones, unfortunately VZW is notoriously anti-open and anti-consumer, and that is not going to change. With each new generation of devices, they force OEMs to make it increasingly difficult to unlock bootloaders and root. I am not telling you anything you don't know here. VZW has managed to gimp all of their latest devices so much that the development scene is very slow compared to just a few months ago. If you check out the VZW development threads, you will see what I mean. I have a Note 2 and Note 3. The Note 2 community is still fairly active considering how long it has been out, and many devs have moved on to other devices. But the Note 2 isn't crippled with Knox, which is why the Note 3 dev scene is so pale in comparison. Unless you have a Note 3 DE, you are stuck on TW based roms, probably until the end of time. And Samsung's miniscule allotment of DEs has prevented it from becoming the superstar phone that it could (should) have been. You can hold out for a DE, but the fact that so few people have it means there will be lack of interest & effort from devs to build roms for it. So in reality if you stay on VZW, you must decide if you want TW or no TW. If you like TW, then by all means get the best TW phone available (Note 3). If you want more options like AOSP-based roms, then consider the LG G2 or the upcoming G2 Pro (if it even comes to VZW). The G2 dev community is pretty active, much more so than the Note 3. Alternatively, you could get an older phone like the Note 2 or S4 with an established dev community, and just wait & see what comes down the pike.
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sublimaze said:
Yes, T-mobile offers "unlimited" data but there is a catch: you are throttled after you go over 3 GB.
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That's completely untrue. T-Mobile unlimited means unlimited. You're throttled if you are below their $70 plan. I'm currently on their $70 unlimited everything prepaid plan and haven't gotten throttled and I'm at around 5GB of usage this month. The $60 plan is 2.5GB before throttle. The $50 plan is 500 MB before throttle. There's also a $30 plan that's 100 minutes (10c/minute after), unlimited text, and 5GB before throttle. All plans include LTE.

Product F(RED) said:
That's completely untrue...
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Actually you just proved my point. Unless you are willing to pay $70/month, you WILL be throttled. But thanks for clarifying the cutoff figures.
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sublimaze said:
Actually you just proved my point. Unless you are willing to pay $70/month, you WILL be throttled. But thanks for clarifying the cutoff figures.
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Actually, no. You made a broad-sweeping statement, insinuating that no matter what plan you're on, you'll be throttled after 3GB of usage. Try being more specific next time.

Product F(RED) said:
Actually, no. You made a broad-sweeping statement, insinuating that no matter what plan you're on, you'll be throttled after 3GB of usage. Try being more specific next time.
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The take home point is this:
The OP is currently on a Verizon unlimited data plan, which means truly unlimited and doesn't need to be qualified by how much he pays per month.
Verizon unlimited is truly unlimited and unthrottled. T-mobile's service is unlimited so long as you are willing to pay a premium. If you are unwilling or can't afford to pay that premium, then you will be throttled. My original statement may be "broad sweeping", but there is an equally broad number of people that will not pay a premium for truly unlimited service.
So comparing the OP's current unlimited data plan to T-mobile's unlimited data plan is not necessarily comparing apples to apples.
But thank you for your exceedingly helpful contribution to this thread about what phone to use on Verizon :thumbup:

sublimaze said:
The take home point is this:
The OP is currently on a Verizon unlimited data plan, which means truly unlimited and doesn't need to be qualified by how much he pays per month.
Verizon unlimited is truly unlimited and unthrottled. T-mobile's service is unlimited so long as you are willing to pay a premium. If you are unwilling or can't afford to pay that premium, then you will be throttled. My original statement may be "broad sweeping", but there is an equally broad number of people that will not pay a premium for truly unlimited service.
So comparing the OP's current unlimited data plan to T-mobile's unlimited data plan is not necessarily comparing apples to apples.
But thank you for your exceedingly helpful contribution to this thread about what phone to use on Verizon :thumbup:
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Chances are if you're in Verizon, you're already paying a "premium" over T-Mobile. Take it from me, I used to be a Verizon employee and I'm a current T-Mobile customer. Happy now?
To the OP:
Any Verizon device Galaxy S4 or later supports AWS LTE (which is what T-Mobile uses for LTE). So if you buy one of those phones and switch, as long as you live in an LTE area you will get full service (EDGE, HSPA+, LTE). However if you're looking to start new and buy or subsidize a T-Mobile phone, you have to ask yourself what you want in a phone.
Personally, I would recommend either the Moto X Developer Edition (because you maintain warranty even if you unlock the bootloader), or the Nexus 5 (a natural choice). I personally prefer and own the former and absolutely love it. It's pretty much stock Android with a few useful additions like active notifications, touch less controls, etc. And the unlocked and Developer Editions get their updates straight from Motorola. Matter of fact, I just got the 4.4.2 OTA update a few days ago.
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Thank you every one for a few choices that i really havent paid attention too. the moto x de. and the g2. Look guys... i pay 110 a month for one freaking line but is unlimited data. if i switch to tmobile i will save money per month just in the bill alone. i plan on buying any phone i get straight up. no contracts. i want to be free and clear. so tmobiles $70 unlimited plan is the way to go if i cannot manage to find me a phone on verizon that has a strong development community behind it. i KNOW what coverage is like with verizon here in my area. i was taken by the larger screen of the note3. all i want is me some AOSP roms. not a fan of TW really. the galaxy nexus has just spoiled me to AOSP. its over @ yrs strong and still running the up to date Android versions. unlike the previous droids i have owned. verizon support gone after six months. i want a good phone that will be viable in the android world for maybe the next 2 yrs.
i am scared to bite the bullet and leave big red. really dont know what their coverage is like here. 8 yrs ago it sucked.

gnexuser said:
Thank you every one for a few choices that i really havent paid attention too. the moto x de. and the g2. Look guys... i pay 110 a month for one freaking line but is unlimited data. if i switch to tmobile i will save money per month just in the bill alone. i plan on buying any phone i get straight up. no contracts. i want to be free and clear. so tmobiles $70 unlimited plan is the way to go if i cannot manage to find me a phone on verizon that has a strong development community behind it. i KNOW what coverage is like with verizon here in my area. i was taken by the larger screen of the note3. all i want is me some AOSP roms. not a fan of TW really. the galaxy nexus has just spoiled me to AOSP. its over @ yrs strong and still running the up to date Android versions. unlike the previous droids i have owned. verizon support gone after six months. i want a good phone that will be viable in the android world for maybe the next 2 yrs.
i am scared to bite the bullet and leave big red. really dont know what their coverage is like here. 8 yrs ago it sucked.
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Moto X, trust me. It doesn't need any custom ROMs. It just works. I promise you. You can root if you want and install a custom recovery. At most maybe XPosed with some modules. But ROM-wise, it's amazing out of the box. And this is coming from a guy who has a ROM'd Galaxy S4 too.

There are 3 threads devoted to discussions about devices, please repost your question in one of these three threads: The what should I buy thread or the The Device Suggestion Thread or the The Device Comparison Thread.
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Plan help required - US Verizon user, travel to Europe, with a drone

I hope someone can help.
I have a Verizon S7 edge, I'll be in France for a week from July 4th, then England for a week. I have a drone so the 100Mb from Verizon's data plan probably isn't going to cut it.
Should I get a local SIM (if so which one), or something like a T-Mobile Simple Plan phone, which would only work if the phone has a hotspot, or can fly a Mavic pro.
Any advice for the best choice?
BTW the Phone is not rooted, as I use Pay.

syco123 said:
I hope someone can help. I have a Verizon S7 edge, I'll be in France for a week from July 4th, then England for a week.....
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I don't have this device but, your best bet for device specific options is to post this question within the following Q&A thread that's specific to your device and variants.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3489011
Good Luck!
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Ibuprophen said:
I don't have this device but, your best bet for device...
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Thanks for the reply. I figured I was prepared to pick up another device locally if I had to.
What I learned was the T-Mobile is probably the best deal for me at $100 total to use for a month unlimited data, but paying for calls. So obviously you can use an app like GV or Skype to make calls. The travel pass lets me keep my unlimited plan abroad, and is $10 on the day I use it. I'll be gone 14 days, but might not use it everyday. So $40 more max, but I keep the same number, which is handy and worth a little more for me.
I think i'm sorted. Thanks

syco123 said:
Thanks for the reply. I figured I was prepared to pick up another device locally if I had to......
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I'm glad to see that you got it figured out.
I'm not very knowledgeable about the real differences with what's available abroad in comparison to the US but, I hope to be prepared if I do go. I've never been abroad myself but, I would like to someday.... :thumbup:
Have a safe trip!
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