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Unlimited 4G ending on Thursday

I just learned tonight that as of Thursday, 3 days from now, 4G data plans will be capped.
The new cap will be 5GB. Pricing overage is not specified just yet, I would assume the standard $10/GB overage.
This is for any NEW customers and any upgrades done AFTER this day. Anyone who already has a TBolt is grandfathered in (myself included). Spread the word, and let your friends/family know should they need a truly unlimited plan.
I would expect an announcement tomorrow sometime. Just wanted to let you guys know.

And the gospel has spoke. I am grandfathered young skywalker.

fillyo said:
And the gospel has spoke. I am grandfathered young skywalker.
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The unlimited data is strong with this one...
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This is the reason I upgraded immediately, even if it required paying full retail

My business rep has also told me that people getting 4G data plans better do it now, before it changes. He did not tell me this Thursday, but his feeling was no more than 30 days after the TB was released. He also told me there's no guarantee anyone on the unlim plans will be grandfathered.

This is what I was afraid of.. glad I JUST got mine lol

I knew the unlimited 4G data wouldn't last until the Droid Bionic. Glad I have my Thunderbolt.

i am in the door but i still am going to sell TB when bionic comes out

rajuabju said:
My business rep has also told me that people getting 4G data plans better do it now, before it changes. He did not tell me this Thursday, but his feeling was no more than 30 days after the TB was released. He also told me there's no guarantee anyone on the unlim plans will be grandfathered.
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There would be lots of trouble for not grandfathering people already up and running on unlimited 4G data plans. If it isn't in the contract they can't suddenly put it into the contract. Additionally as the TB currently offers no built in mechanism to turn off 4G for those who got it under the concept of it having unlimited data would have to be offered the option to return their phones, etc... Seriously it'd be a PR nightmare/huge trouble for VZW to not grandfather people in, its the same reason AT&T did it for people who already had unlimited plans when they moved to a tiered system.

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There would be lots of trouble for not grandfathering people already up and running on unlimited 4G data plans. If it isn't in the contract they can't suddenly put it into the contract.
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That was my thought to it also. Cant change my contract just bc they want to. Thats why we have contracts, to lock things in place

So what happens when we want to move onto another 4g device? Are they going to allow us to transfer our 4g plan to the new device and retain our unlimited? I'd imagine since the LTE sim is swappable.. we can probably just pop it into another device and keep unlimited..
Any thoughts?

Wow I just signed up for Verizon today and got the Thunderbolt I signed up for the Unlimited plan looks like its a good thing I did seeing this tonight

So glad I bought my Tbird on release day.
So pissed that Verizon would do this. After the gov't sat on their hands and made them go either unlimited or 5GB (not "5GB unlimited") in years past, their CDMA based data plans have been unlimited ever since. REALLY unlimited. Unless you're in the 95th percentile. Maybe.
But now they're going the way of the greedy [email protected]#[email protected]#%(^#$^$$%#$$ at AT&T? What happened to the carrier that was both reliable-thanks-CDMA and consumer-friendly-thanks-Sprint, in the same package?
Major regression. Very unhappy. I'm glad I have grandfathered, but I wonder if I will be forced over to a 5GB plan in two years when my contract expires.

Can we get some sort of confirmation to this rumor?

I'm glad I became a Verizon customer this past Sunday. I was with T-Mobile till the news broke out. I refuse to give AT&T any of my money!
Anyway, I'm glad I made this move. The Thunderbolt is crazy fast, and I'm very happy with it. Oh, only 1 thing I did hate.... My battery died after 3 hours of being fully charged.

Diversion said:
So what happens when we want to move onto another 4g device? Are they going to allow us to transfer our 4g plan to the new device and retain our unlimited? I'd imagine since the LTE sim is swappable.. we can probably just pop it into another device and keep unlimited..
Any thoughts?
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I'd think that switching devices isn't an issue. Take AT&T they only forced people to tiered if they change out of the unlimited data plan. As their entry level tiered was priced at like $15/mo vs $30 so some people who didn't use much data chose to do that but never could get unlimited again. Also for developers and the like switching between devices for testing on Verizon it seems to require switching a phone ID and activating that device, but I assume with 4G the sim card would only need to be moved? I'm unsure as to how that works, but I'll likely need to move between my TB, which arrives tomorrow, and my Incredible for development purposes. So I'm sure I'll figure out the details soon.
Can we get some sort of confirmation to this rumor?
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I assume until Verizon makes an official statement it'll remain a rumor. Regardless, sooner than I've been hearing. I'd heard tiered by the summer. But suppose a test run for a week might be enough to see what kind of saturation to expect network wise. But think before the bionics release would be a reasonable guess. But well wish it wasn't headed that way. Think the approach of I think sprint just charging an additional $10/mo if you want 4G isn't a bad business model. Plus the users who get these phones and barely use any data would likely offset from those who do...

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I'd think that switching devices isn't an issue. Take AT&T they only forced people to tiered if they change out of the unlimited data plan. As their entry level tiered was priced at like $15/mo vs $30 so some people who didn't use much data chose to do that but never could get unlimited again. Also for developers and the like switching between devices for testing on Verizon it seems to require switching a phone ID and activating that device, but I assume with 4G the sim card would only need to be moved? I'm unsure as to how that works, but I'll likely need to move between my TB, which arrives tomorrow, and my Incredible for development purposes. So I'm sure I'll figure out the details soon.
I assume until Verizon makes an official statement it'll remain a rumor. Regardless, sooner than I've been hearing. I'd heard tiered by the summer. But suppose a test run for a week might be enough to see what kind of saturation to expect network wise. But think before the bionics release would be a reasonable guess. But well wish it wasn't headed that way. Think the approach of I think sprint just charging an additional $10/mo if you want 4G isn't a bad business model. Plus the users who get these phones and barely use any data would likely offset from those who do...
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after testing lte i would pay $10 a month more for it.

My Verizon Rep is allowing me to upgrade early, but pay Verizon price for the phone. But my upgrade is the 29th of March. So if I can, I would wait and grab from Amazon. So until some sort of verification somewhere I'll wait. They won't do a surprise change would they?

Philosophre said:
My Verizon Rep is allowing me to upgrade early, but pay Verizon price for the phone. But my upgrade is the 29th of March. So if I can, I would wait and grab from Amazon. So until some sort of verification somewhere I'll wait. They won't do a surprise change would they?
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Don't think for a minute that they won't do a surprise change! The legalese you click / sign through when you're becoming a customer says they can change any part of any of your terms at any time with or without notice, basically they can decide that it's $1,000 per byte and that's just tough luck for you. Of course they would probably get sued for being unreasonable, but you see my point. The act of changing the deal on a dime is not illegal because you agreed to let them.
And if you aren't even a Verizon Unlimited Smartphone Data Plan customer at all right now, they have even less obligation to you, because you aren't a customer, and you have no chance of being grandfathered.

allquixotic said:
Don't think for a minute that they won't do a surprise change! The legalese you click / sign through when you're becoming a customer says they can change any part of any of your terms at any time with or without notice, basically they can decide that it's $1,000 per byte and that's just tough luck for you. Of course they would probably get sued for being unreasonable, but you see my point. The act of changing the deal on a dime is not illegal because you agreed to let them.
And if you aren't even a Verizon Unlimited Smartphone Data Plan customer at all right now, they have even less obligation to you, because you aren't a customer, and you have no chance of being grandfathered.
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this was my understanding. Even if they have a contract with you, they can still change it, but it then gives you an option, you bend over and take the changes, or you can leave with no ETF.
Also if they are not going to grandfather people in, then I will be returning my phone within the 30 days and going with another carrier. I like their coverage and LTE is crazy, but a 5GB cap on internet speeds this fast? you'll be hitting cap in a week.
I am hoping that the whole deal between AT&T and T-Mobile becoming one company makes them change their mind, or at least rethink the data plans.

[Q] Help choosing phone and provider, please?

I have a MyTouch 4G on T-Mobile. In a year or less the AT&T buyout of T-Mobile may happen and.... I have to decide what's next for me.
1. I'm happy with the MyTouch and my T-Mo plan but I have no contract and therefore no protection at all against whatever changes may result from the buyout.
2. Physical or on-screen keyboard is fine, no preference.
3. I need VERY little voice time, less than 100 minutes a month for the last 10 years so the 200 minute senior plans from AT&T or VZW are fine for me.
4. I need LOTS of data so price is a consideration.
5. I MUST have UMA or WiFi calling to cover all the places I need my phone but I think that's impossible, I doubt AT&T will add that and I know VZW won't.
6. The choice is between VZW and AT&T, don't want to go into reasons for that. I have a lot of very bad experiences with AT&T and a lot of good experience with VZW, offsetting that is that my current phone(s) are GSM.
So.... should I try to live with AT&T or get a new phone and go with VZW? Price will be exactly the same either way but I'll need to sell some phones and get a new one (eBay or Craig's List, no contract!)
And, if the recommendation is VZW what CDMA phone is close to the MyTouch 4G in performance and features?
Any suggestions much appreciated, thanks!

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I'm not really sure what verizon phone is the closest to what you have right now, but they do have a few good smartphone options. I will say that if you're planning on switching, you should do so before the 7th because there will be no more unlimited data on new plans after that.

I've been on sprint for awhile now mainly because the pricing. The evo 4g is comparable to the mytouch 4g. The evo 3d just came out for sprint recently which is a beast of a phone but I'm not upgrading just yet. Explore all your options and visit androidcentral, they have many reviews of android phones from all carriers. I'd suggest looking over there to get some more input
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the merger has not happened yet and it will be at least 8 months till it goes down and then prob at least half a year till everything gets switched. People are worried but it takes time to get thing swiched over. You might even get a cheap trade off phone when that happens. There is nothing cheaper than TMO and you seem to be happy with it. Why not just stick with it till the merger happens.
Pick up a Sensation or a G2X and stay on Tmo as long as you can.
But if you really want to switch then I would pick verizon (unfortunetely there are not phones on vzn that I really care for right now but you cant go wrong with the network availability and speed but super high prices).
As mentioned you should consider sprint, closest to tmobile in prices and decent network with 1 nice phone which is the evo 3D.
gluck.

Thanks for the answers!
First, I have no contract nor will I, I'll stick with T-Mo as long as possible but it's never too soon to start searching Craig's List or Ebay for a phone if I do go to VZW. Question is, if I port my number now, will I still have unlimited data next month or the month after on a month to month deal?
Pricing, Sprint is the most expensive option by far, both VZW and AT&T offer senior plans which I had when I was with VZW before, Sprint has nothing similar. BTW, T-Mo only saves me $5/mo over VZW. I get more minutes I can't use/don't want with T-Mo but who cares?
Coverage: I switched to T-Mo because they had coverage where I need it, VZW doesn't (I know, that's the reverse of most people's experience!) but w/o UMA/WiFi calling I'll be back to no coverage in most places where I need it regardless of who I chose.
(T-Mo used to offer an unlimited data only plan with per minute voice, that was the best for me but it's no longer available.)

technology moves pretty fast these days.. i would ride out your t mobile plan until the merger gets closer then look into plans and phones. As one person stated verizon is dumping unlimited plans after the 7th so maybe thats a deciding factor for you.

Thanks

TheIceCreamMan said:
technology moves pretty fast these days..
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I agree but I'm usually happy with a phone that's a little behind the curve.
i would ride out your t mobile plan until the merger gets closer then look into plans and phones. As one person stated verizon is dumping unlimited plans after the 7th so maybe thats a deciding factor for you.
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I looked at plans and phones today, VZW still has the Old Fart's plan for $30/mo so that's fine, the data is a worry. I can get the unlimited plan today but w/o a contract will I get to keep it next month?
With the 65 Plus plan for $30 and the data plan for $30 I'd be paying only $5/mo more than T-Mobile but with no UMA/WiFi calling which is a major problem and the reason I'm staying with T-Mo as long as possible!
The change from unlimited data is a good reason to switch today but with no guarantee that I can keep the unlimited plan I'm scared to change!

I don't know how unlimited data works without a contract, you'd have to ask Verizon. As for wifi calling, why not just use Google voice?

On a scale of 1 to 10 I rate UMA as a 10, WiFi Calling as about a 6, Google Voice as a 0. It's just not an acceptable alternative but it is an alternative I suppose...

I would suggest not to try AT&T - pretty poor network .. Also, they dont seem to have an unlimited data plan.

I agree with that but I suspect that AT&T will remain T-Mobile for some time after the buyout, as in honoring my current plan and maybe continuing to offer UMA/WiFi calling. I expect everything will continue unchanged for some weeks, maybe months? I'll switch when I have to unless something unexpected happens.
I'm able to switch any time, I have an old VZW BB, an 8330, so I can port my number over right now if I need to....

4G network T-Mobile
At this rate, when people test 6G we started erecting 4G network is OK

I have a month to month deal with Verizon. Coverage is good here in Western PA, much better than AT&T. Very happy to still have unlimited data!

I have had sprint for a short time, but it has been really good.

arunprakashl said:
I would suggest not to try AT&T - pretty poor network .. Also, they dont seem to have an unlimited data plan.
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Unlimited data seems to be as extinct as dinosaurs, those who have it will be allowed to keep it (for who knows how long?) but new customers can't get it.
I have an unlimited plan with T-Mo but I'm sure that'll be going away, the question is how long will it last after the buyout? I'm guessing I'm OK for at least a month but then????
For most customers, the lowest limit offered by most companies is more than adequate.

With AT&T for awhile now. Not too impressed with coverage or service. I wouldn't recommend them at this point. Would have stayed T-mobile but their coverage was worse where I need to go. If T-mobile works for you, why change. When AT&T merged with Cingular, it didn't affect customer of either company until they signed up for new contracts, which sounds like it won't be you.
I don't know if it is a precursor to what's coming but a new T-mobile device from Huawei is being tested by the FCC with T-mobile and AT&T HSPA+ bands. Max speed @ 42mbps. Engadget has a small article on it.
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AT&T Family data share could be closer!

I seen a article in Yahoo news that looks like AT&T maybe trying to move ahead with Shared data plans . I for one would love it!!!
Here is the screen shot that was supposedly AT&T system does anyone know how true this is?
But anyways Im hoping.
http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/23142_large_tlgatteng8374a1.jpg

u921333 said:
I seen a article in Yahoo news that looks like AT&T maybe trying to move ahead with Shared data plans . I for one would love it!!!
Here is the screen shot that was supposedly AT&T system does anyone know how true this is?
But anyways Im hoping.
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this would make sense, other idea would be to have roll-over-data, just hoping

I had heard this rumor a while back but nothing else up until now. Thanks. I would love this too.
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It makes sense for the end user, but not the company. They'll lose profits if they allow shared data. I for one would love to see it happen though.

tomtommy306 said:
It makes sense for the end user, but not the company. They'll lose profits if they allow shared data. I for one would love to see it happen though.
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LOL ..... well we havent seen a pricing structure yet maybe rediculously priced.
Anxiously waiting for some of those details to leak

In one sense, it does make some sense for the company. Lots of people are getting both tablets and phones. If they can share a data plan between them, it might spur sales of a tablet. I know a lot of people who would not get a second device because they don't want that second data plan. I was one of those that didn't want the second data plan. So I got a wifi-only tablet and tethering on my phone. But, from an ATT perspective, they might come out ahead if they used their fast LTE for the small screens of phones and let folks use the older Edge and 3G for their tablets at a decreased price because it spreads their data load.

I work for Att, and I know its going to half and half. Good cuz now you can have one set price bad cuz you need to think about what if lil Johnny uses up all my data... What do I do, oh I know get hit with overcharge... Att is about to make bank. Wait. And see.gghf
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I'm a member of a private site that pays people to take marketing surveys and just completed one about ATTs data proposed sharing plan. So it will most likely be coming in the near future.
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I work for Att, and I know its going to half and half. Good cuz now you can have one set price bad cuz you need to think about what if lil Johnny uses up all my data... What do I do, oh I know get hit with overcharge... Att is about to make bank. Wait. And see.gghf
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I smack lil Johnny around a little and give him my old nokia laying around first time it happens lol.
I use around 3 gig tops on 4 smartphone lines combined. So Im hoping they will go with at least a 5 gig tier so that I have a little room for oops.

We were talking about that this morning. I can't imagine what kind of data my son would use if i let him turn on data. That 10yr old is a dloading fool
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I work for Att, and I know its going to half and half. Good cuz now you can have one set price bad cuz you need to think about what if lil Johnny uses up all my data... What do I do, oh I know get hit with overcharge... Att is about to make bank. Wait. And see.gghf
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Verizon announced shared data beginning June 28th, AT&T will probably follow suit shortly.
verizon_share_everything_plan_details.pdf
Compared VZW's plans with my current AT&T plan (FT w/ 3 devices) and it's within about $5 of what I'm paying now.
+ is tethering on all devices without paying for the top tier.
- is overages are $15 / GB.

Verizon's new share everything plan is everything I was afraid of. Instead if choice they force the customers hand into buying a service they don't want. I'm on AT&T and I look forward to see what they offer, but if it is similar I won't be saving money, I'll be paying more while getting less data, more minutes than I use and more texts than I need. This is the perfect plan for the top tier users but for the average joe this is a slap in the face.

Saw this on Verizon's shared data plans:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/12/verizon-share-everything-data-plans-go-live-june-28/
If I'm reading that right, you pay a base of $50 for the lowest tier, plus $40 per smartphone. That seems to me to be more than I'm paying now for a total of 4GB on 2 phones plus a dumb phone ($70 base + $80 for smartphones + $30 for the dumb phone = $180 + tax). Maybe not a lot more, but more nonetheless.
If there is a similar price point for the AT&T plans, I may consider it based on whatever my average data is, but that remains to be seen. I'm guessing with Verizon's announcement that we'll see something soon.

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Saw this on Verizon's shared data plans:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/12/verizon-share-everything-data-plans-go-live-june-28/
If I'm reading that right, you pay a base of $50 for the lowest tier, plus $40 per smartphone. That seems to me to be more than I'm paying now for a total of 4GB on 2 phones plus a dumb phone ($70 base + $80 for smartphones + $30 for the dumb phone = $180 + tax). Maybe not a lot more, but more nonetheless.
If there is a similar price point for the AT&T plans, I may consider it based on whatever my average data is, but that remains to be seen. I'm guessing with Verizon's announcement that we'll see something soon.
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I have something similar on att, base plan at $80, with two smart phones at unlimited data and texts and 1200 minutes to share, the base plan has a dumb phone with unlimited data and texts as well
So 80+9+9+30+30, and don't forget about rolling over unsed minutes.
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... Instead if choice they force the customers hand into buying a service they don't want...
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I'm certain AT&T will do something similar. That's how they have things setup for texting now, either pay $20/month for unlimited or $.20/message and get 100 messages for the same $20, nothing in between like $10 for 500 messages, etc.
The statement that VZW is making is that minutes and texts no longer matter, they are commodity features now. The cash cow is data, which is why they bumped their data overage from $10/GB to $15/GB.
I would probably switch to a shared plan, currently have 3 phones with 3GB, 3GB, and 4GB+tether and it would be nice for me to be able to use the balance of the 2 3GB plans in a month that I do a lot of tethering.

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I'm certain AT&T will do something similar. That's how they have things setup for texting now, either pay $20/month for unlimited or $.20/message and get 100 messages for the same $20, nothing in between like $10 for 500 messages, etc.
The statement that VZW is making is that minutes and texts no longer matter, they are commodity features now. The cash cow is data, which is why they bumped their data overage from $10/GB to $15/GB.
I would probably switch to a shared plan, currently have 3 phones with 3GB, 3GB, and 4GB+tether and it would be nice for me to be able to use the balance of the 2 3GB plans in a month that I do a lot of tethering.
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Another reason why USA is slowly but steadily falling behind other developed countries. What ATT and VZW just did was overpaid for spectrum knowing that there is no true competition and they can charge whatever they want. Now they will have customers pay by the teeth for data.
The end game is that everyone else but the cellular provider loses. Customers pay more so they will buy less cellular equipment and use less. I for one will let go my personal cell phone and use company phone only. Fewer people will buy data enabled tablets. This impacts a whole slew of downstream app develops providers etc as well.

A family data share option would be great if they do it like their other plans.. offer several different size family packages like ex.
1. 2gb family
2. 3 gb family
3. 4 gb family
4. 5 gb family and so on until
5. Unlimited. And be truley unlimited family...
And if you should so choose option 1-4 let the unused balance roll over to the next month. If a company would offer this, data plans taylored to the customers needs and wants. Why have these big companies like att got away from giving their customers what they actually want and giving them what they pay for..
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AT&T announces Mobile Share: www.att.com/mobileshare
Surprisingly similar to VZW's offering.

I wonder how AT&T is going to handle discounts with the new plans. Previously only certain thing were discounted with my corp premier discount. Either way, this looks a bit more expensive for my situation.

I have 4 lines. One smart phone (unlimited data(don't really use more then 5 gigs)) and 3 dumb phones (2 of which don't have data). For the same price I'm paying now I could have data on all my lines with unlimited talk (already have unlimited txt). I'll be looking into it for sure. Just cause they offer it doesn't mean its for you or you need it or that they are "forcing" it on you.
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[Q] Have I become too picky, or do people also not like the way verizon is going?

I really just needed to vent , maybe get some views also .
Does any one feel like the current trend in verizon is really disturbing ?
Here are my issues :
1- They of course took away unlimited and then they take away eligibility to keep it when upgrading ( unlike At&t I think which allows their customers to keep the unlimited with upgrade and Tmobile which allows unlimited for an added fee ).
2- They are forcing manufacturers to lock bootlaoders , and take away SD card space, to cause us to use more data . Example the DNA( only the verizon version does not have expanded storage capability) and now the removal of the 32 gb version of Galaxy S3
3- None of the new devices have the capability of surf and talk on 3g like the t-bolt, rezound and the S3. The note 2 and the DNA both lost that feature . Seems to me like that is going backwards.
additional fees for locking bootloaders are being implemented and future complete removal unlimited data plans, rumors I know, but even more disturbing.
I am really starting to get bothered by their current practices. I feel like we are losing more and more freedoms and privileges while the rest of the world is getting more ( the case of the DNA getting the better version )
I am not sure what to accomplish by this thread, I am interested to see if this is really bothering any one else as much as it does with me, to the point of thinking about going to another company.
I still have the unlimited , as i am grandfathered into it , but i am really thinking about ditching verizon if they get rid of unlimited completely. Before that even, only one line left in my family plan is under contract till august. I am seriously debating leaving the company all together because of their practices
Done raving and ranting.

Not to be rude but, if you don't like the service you get for your money then youshould switch. If you aren't happy it really doesn't matter what any random internet people think.

I'm right there with you on not liking the way they are headed. My wife and I have lines we got on her sister's family plan before they did away with unlimited data, so we're here for a while, and I like the service we're getting. We also got GS3's and are on contract for a few years with our affordable data plans. When that expires, though, I'm anticipating leaving.
We'll have to see where everything stands, but if I was a new potential customer, I'd definitely go with a Nexus 4 on a prepaid network instead of Verizon.

Yes they are getting quite ridiculous. But, when you really think about it, havent they always been like this, moreso than the other carriers?
Just curious, what kind of stuff have you been hearing about completely doing away with unlimited? Still have mine through a family plan. Never gonna give it up if I can help it.

Not that I don't agree with a lot of what your saying but AT&T allows you to keep their unlimited data when upgrading because it then has a cap of 5GB before they throttle you. If I had too choose between the two, I'd rather keep Verizon here since we at least still have true unlimited.
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bobloblaw1 said:
Not to be rude but, if you don't like the service you get for your money then youshould switch. If you aren't happy it really doesn't matter what any random internet people think.
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I know it comes down to me, i wanted to see other people's point of view
xderiwx said:
Yes they are getting quite ridiculous. But, when you really think about it, havent they always been like this, moreso than the other carriers?
Just curious, what kind of stuff have you been hearing about completely doing away with unlimited? Still have mine through a family plan. Never gonna give it up if I can help it.
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Rumors are two folds, eventually every one will be done with contract that obliged verizon to keep unlimited and then you will be going month to month ( if you decide to keep unlimited and pay full price for your device) . This is about to happen by this summer I think when you calculate the last bit of customers that were able to keep their unlimited and upgrade forcing verizon into a contract ( those who pre ordered the gsIII) . After that they can pretty much force all the month to month grandfathers to chose a tiered plan.
This is why I am very hesitant to pay a full price for a phone, they are being really unpredictable, I would hate to pay full price for a phone only to be forced into a teired plan, and with their trac record, they come up with something new every day.
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I'm right there with you on not liking the way they are headed. My wife and I have lines we got on her sister's family plan before they did away with unlimited data, so we're here for a while, and I like the service we're getting. We also got GS3's and are on contract for a few years with our affordable data plans. When that expires, though, I'm anticipating leaving.
We'll have to see where everything stands, but if I was a new potential customer, I'd definitely go with a Nexus 4 on a prepaid network instead of Verizon.
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You know You are absolutely correct, even google pulled their line out of verizon.
Does any one know how does Tmobile fair on Long island NY , or in general? Do you guys think its worth the switch

i kept my unlimited plan after altering my plan last week.
had to fight for it, but i kept it.

jmichaels1982 said:
I really just needed to vent , maybe get some views also .
Does any one feel like the current trend in verizon is really disturbing ?
Here are my issues :
1- They of course took away unlimited and then they take away eligibility to keep it when upgrading ( unlike At&t I think which allows their customers to keep the unlimited with upgrade and Tmobile which allows unlimited for an added fee ).
2- They are forcing manufacturers to lock bootlaoders , and take away SD card space, to cause us to use more data . Example the DNA( only the verizon version does not have expanded storage capability) and now the removal of the 32 gb version of Galaxy S3
3- None of the new devices have the capability of surf and talk on 3g like the t-bolt, rezound and the S3. The note 2 and the DNA both lost that feature . Seems to me like that is going backwards.
additional fees for locking bootloaders are being implemented and future complete removal unlimited data plans, rumors I know, but even more disturbing.
I am really starting to get bothered by their current practices. I feel like we are losing more and more freedoms and privileges while the rest of the world is getting more ( the case of the DNA getting the better version )
I am not sure what to accomplish by this thread, I am interested to see if this is really bothering any one else as much as it does with me, to the point of thinking about going to another company.
I still have the unlimited , as i am grandfathered into it , but i am really thinking about ditching verizon if they get rid of unlimited completely. Before that even, only one line left in my family plan is under contract till august. I am seriously debating leaving the company all together because of their practices
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Their executive relations team is pissing and that's very difficult to do. I called complaining about how I've received phone after phone through the CLN program have either been broken or not up to date with software. One exec assured me that they're up to the quality they guarantee. When I call in saying that I have video proof of receiving this current Galaxy S III with a physical defect and that it was behind by two updates, they failed to return my calls and sent me a letter detailing how many CLNR devices they've sent saying that they had gone above and beyond expectations to help me and I could cancel before February 7th without having to pay an ETF if I wasn't happy. They've failed to return several of my phone calls and I'm ready to contact the BBB/FCC over this. Someone needs to start taking Verizon down a peg or two. Sure, they get fined 1-2 million dollars but not like it matters when that's change to them.
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Not that I don't agree with a lot of what your saying but AT&T allows you to keep their unlimited data when upgrading because it then has a cap of 5GB before they throttle you. If I had too choose between the two, I'd rather keep Verizon here since we at least still have true unlimited.
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This is true/false. Verizon throttles 3G during peak hours but not 4G. Source: Personal experience lol. Still, sad that my throttled 3G is faster than Sprint's "unlimited" 3G. I'll pull around 800kbp/s while throttled while my Sprint friends get 400-500kpb/s.

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Their executive relations team is pissing and that's very difficult to do. I called complaining about how I've received phone after phone through the CLN program have either been broken or not up to date with software. One exec assured me that they're up to the quality they guarantee. When I call in saying that I have video proof of receiving this current Galaxy S III with a physical defect and that it was behind by two updates, they failed to return my calls and sent me a letter detailing how many CLNR devices they've sent saying that they had gone above and beyond expectations to help me and I could cancel before February 7th without having to pay an ETF if I wasn't happy. They've failed to return several of my phone calls and I'm ready to contact the BBB/FCC over this. Someone needs to start taking Verizon down a peg or two. Sure, they get fined 1-2 million dollars but not like it matters when that's change to them.
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This is true/false. Verizon throttles 3G during peak hours but not 4G. Source: Personal experience lol. Still, sad that my throttled 3G is faster than Sprint's "unlimited" 3G. I'll pull around 800kbp/s while throttled while my Sprint friends get 400-500kpb/s.
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Well yes if you want to get technical. I was talking about 4G though. Regardless of what you are using with att if you have an unlimited plan you get throttled after 5GB.
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jmichaels1982 said:
I know it comes down to me, i wanted to see other people's point of view
Rumors are two folds, eventually every one will be done with contract that obliged verizon to keep unlimited and then you will be going month to month ( if you decide to keep unlimited and pay full price for your device) . This is about to happen by this summer I think when you calculate the last bit of customers that were able to keep their unlimited and upgrade forcing verizon into a contract ( those who pre ordered the gsIII) . After that they can pretty much force all the month to month grandfathers to chose a tiered plan.
This is why I am very hesitant to pay a full price for a phone, they are being really unpredictable, I would hate to pay full price for a phone only to be forced into a teired plan, and with their trac record, they come up with something new every day.
You know You are absolutely correct, even google pulled their line out of verizon.
Does any one know how does Tmobile fair on Long island NY , or in general? Do you guys think its worth the switch
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I was already out of contract/month to month before purchasing my S3. Being forced into a tiered plan would suck big time! Lets hope it doesnt get to that point.

Cancelled Verizon pre-order, thinking about Tmobile

So I have been creaming over this phone for an entire month. But after reading again and again, i decided against it. I am seriously considering tmobile's, Here is why .
I am ordering the phone full price from verizon so i can keep my unlimited . I Tether all the time and my lowest data usage has been around 6 gb, i can go up to 60 sometimes in a month.
right now I own the S3, its of course unlocked and rooted with custom everything.
1- The fact that now KNOX is coming to the picture and the uncertainty of the rooting future scares the crap out of me. WIthout rooting, i cant tether, so i am buying a full price phone to keep an unlimited that i will not use to its full potential as I wish. ( this is not a moral thread, please refrain from giving me life lessons ). I also hate ads with a passion, gotta run ad blocker, and i cant imagine living life without XPOSED. ROOT IS A MUST.
2- Tmobile phones come unlocked, I am btw only referring to bootloader, which i care deeply for, I dont travel internationally , so sim unlocked is not an issue I care for, from the very first day, I need to verify it , but if thats the case, then i will finally feel like I own my phone that I bought .
3- with an extra 10 dollar month, i get to change my phone every 6 months. AND THIS AMOUNT INCLUDES INSURANCE FOR MY PHONE .
4- T mobile is a heck of a lot cheaper , unlimited every thing costs a fraction of verizon.
5- I will beat my self with an ugly stick , if they release a verizon developer edition in the future. I'll wait a month or two ( its killing me inside ) to see the developer status, if they release it , i might contemplate ordering it from samsung , but it will fix 99 % of my disappointments.
6 -Unless the dev. community unlocks the phone , at least root it , verizon note 3 is just a loser deal in every single way. so once again its wise for me wait .
7- the wifi calling feature , i feel would make up for tmobiles lack of great coverage .
I think i have to stop behaving like a kid and have some patience to see the root and developer status with verizon note 3
Back in the day , it was all about service reliability for me. But now my phone is more than just for phone calls. Its my tablet, laptop, navigator and actually , very lil for direct phone calls. Is verizons service really worth paying outright $ 700 for a phone , that i cant use the way i like ?
The point of this thread - insight , some members here have done a fantastic job pointing out things that would not have foreseen on my own. Thanks to all in advance !

I'm switching to Tmobile also but from AT&T pretty much for the same reasons you mentioned. Even in paying for Jump, my plan is still cheaper with Tmobile then the same plan is for AT&T.

rchapoteau said:
I'm switching to Tmobile also but from AT&T pretty much for the same reasons you mentioned. Even in paying for Jump, my plan is still cheaper with Tmobile then the same plan is for AT&T.
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Considering T-Mobile as well because I'm on Sprint and you know how their data and network is... :silly:'
Also Sprint had the smart decision of making the Note 3 single band LTE . They are the only carrier in US with single band LTE Note 3 while their network has tri-band LTE. T-mobile has like quad-band LTE support along with the others. I'm also on a Sprint Sero Premium plan which makes switching difficult as I'll be paying more through T-mobile but I think it will be worth it for the better overall network experience. I may just keep my Sprint and use T-Mobile $30 plan with the Note 3 for a month to see how it goes.

I left Verizon over a year ago, went to Sprint (big mistake) and had the Note II now I'm on T-Mobile with a Nexus 4 waiting for my pre-ordered Note III to ship.
I have ZERO issues with T-Mobile and I'm so glad to be away from Verizon's politics. I mean when the Galaxy S III came out they were the only carrier in the world to lock the bootloader.
If T-Mobile's coverage is good in your area I would say make the jump!

Doesn't T-Mobile throttle your data though? What good is unlimited data if it gets throttled after 2GB?
I am on Verizon's unlimited data as well. What I do when I want to tether is I switch my SIM card from my Crapple iPhone 5 to my wife's Crapple jail broken iPhone 5 and tether away.
Yes, it's a major hassle, but hopefully the Note 3 gets rooted. I don't think KNOX has any effect on the bootloader being unlockable.
And it's way better than being on a carrier that throttles LTE.
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The Note 3 has already been rooted in the developer forums.

Han Solo 1 said:
Doesn't T-Mobile throttle your data though? What good is unlimited data if it gets throttled after 2GB?
I am on Verizon's unlimited data as well. What I do when I want to tether is I switch my SIM card from my Crapple iPhone 5 to my wife's Crapple jail broken iPhone 5 and tether away.
Yes, it's a major hassle, but hopefully the Note 3 gets rooted. I don't think KNOX has any effect on the bootloader being unlockable.
And it's way better than being on a carrier that throttles LTE.
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T-Mobile has unlimited data, but they have several different amounts of "HighSpeed" you can select from. They have 500mb, 2.5gb and unlimited.
If you choose lets say the 2.5gb plan then yes once you go over the 2.5gb you get throttled but if you choose the unlimited then you do not get throttled.

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Han Solo 1 said:
Doesn't T-Mobile throttle your data though? What good is unlimited data if it gets throttled after 2GB?
I am on Verizon's unlimited data as well. What I do when I want to tether is I switch my SIM card from my Crapple iPhone 5 to my wife's Crapple jail broken iPhone 5 and tether away.
Yes, it's a major hassle, but hopefully the Note 3 gets rooted. I don't think KNOX has any effect on the bootloader being unlockable.
And it's way better than being on a carrier that throttles LTE.
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Their unlimited 4g plan has no throttling and 2.5 gb personal hot spot included. with their edge and unlimited text and talk and not paying the price phone in full its 94 per month. if i pay every thing out right ( which is what i am planning ) becomes 80 a month.
I also wanna add another reason, Jump from t-mobile: the $10 jump fee, includes insurance for the phone and the upgrade every 6 months !

thats not the verizon edition
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The Note 3 has already been rooted in the developer forums.
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verizon's edition , from what I hear will be bootloader locked. What scares me is that HTC one has not been rooted till now ! Also , S4 bootloader is still locked, although they do have root. However, this is pre-knox days .

I am leaving Verizon mid Oct, when my contract ends. There is no reason for me to stay as they have made it clear they don't want my business. Been a long time.

We all do not know whether T-Mobile version has unlocked bootloader or not.
However, if you pay in full in the first place, you can receive unlocked code after the trial period is over.
If you have Nationwide 4G, phone only data is 100% (or 99.9999999999%) unlimited and you have 2.5GB hotspot sharing included, but according to my experience, I don't see throttling on sharing part yet (your mileage may vary however because I am a 10 years customer).
Make sure you get HSPA and/or LTE wherever you are.

I think tmobile may throttle you after 5gb on the unlimited plan but in not sure. Thats fine with me though.
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rchapoteau said:
I think tmobile may throttle you after 5gb on the unlimited plan but in not sure. Thats fine with me though.
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If you have Nationwide 4G data as I have ($20 with Value/Simple plan), your data is unlimited with phone (get old version of My Account - a guy holding a phone) and it shows 9.xxxGB.

mingkee said:
We all do not know whether T-Mobile version has unlocked bootloader or not.
However, if you pay in full in the first place, you can receive unlocked code after the trial period is over.
If you have Nationwide 4G, phone only data is 100% (or 99.9999999999%) unlimited and you have 2.5GB hotspot sharing included, but according to my experience, I don't see throttling on sharing part yet (your mileage may vary however because I am a 10 years customer).
Make sure you get HSPA and/or LTE wherever you are.
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T-Mobile has no history of locking bootloaders so I would put my money on that the bootloader will not be locked. Even more so now that they don't have contracts and your buying your phone outright.

mingkee said:
If you have Nationwide 4G data as I have ($20 with Value/Simple plan), your data is unlimited with phone (get old version of My Account - a guy holding a phone) and it shows 9.xxxGB.
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14.8gb of 9765.62gb to that's pretty much unlimited.
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waw this rocks
Well i am really grateful for all the constructive additions to this thread. Thanks to each and every one of you. I think I am going to preorder the tmobile edition tomorrow, and i just found out that they give 20 days trial period instead of verizon's 14 days. So i can really play with the reception and see how they stack up against my s3 with verizon.

I'm on Verizon right now but I preordered the T-Mobile Note 3. I've never had T-Mobile before but I'm willing to try them out. Their coverage map looks good in my state but coverage maps can be deceiving. I'm definitely gonna be driving around and checking things out for the first 14 days. I hope all goes well because I don't want to stay on Verizon and I'd rather things go well with T-Mobile than to go to AT&T.

So wait a minute.
Say I have the $80 everything unlimited plan on TMobile.
That includes 2.5GB of hotspot tether.
What if I use a third party app or a custom ROM that hides the hotspot use? Can T-Mobile still catch that and spank me?
Reason I ask is because I live in an RV for part of the year so I don't have access to cable internet. LTE is my only source of internet.
I tether about 80 to 100 GB per month on average. How would that work on T-Mobile?
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Hmm, the more I think about it, the more intrigued I am.
If am able to use an app to hide tethering, I think I might make the jump!

Im switching to tmobile from sprint