I tried to use my g-tablet as my alarm clock and it seems like I need to keep it awake for it to ring. Allowing to go to sleep or putting it to sleep, will not ring the alarm until I wake it. I suspect this is a similar problem with the sleep problem of the device. Is there a work around beside keeping the device awake throughout the night?
Bump. Had a similar issue this morning and the alarm didn't go off until I woke the device. Anyone else experiencing this issue and have a solution?
I disabled the screen timeout in the settings and that resulted in the device remaining active and playing the alarm on time this morning. Of course that means that the screen is always on so it's probably worth looking into apps that display either no image at all or one that does not harm the display.
Hello all,
There appears to be a few accelerometer based sleep apps that track your sleep cycles available. I always have issues waking up so the ability that these programs have to wake you up when you are in the "lightest phase" of sleep has been truly godsend. I have not been late to work once since I began using it (usually at least 3 days a week I'm late. It is truly life changing so far for me. But id like some feedback if there are other apps out there. or what personal experiences are. Id also like to know what most of you have for your "deep sleep ratio" to see how I stack up.
Sleep as Android - I am about 5 days from the trial version expiration of "Sleep as Android". So far I love the program and am highly considering purchasing it when the trial is up. I love that it can determine the best time to wake me up, and I have a nice graph of my movements through the night, another feature I like is that it record my noise. I have found that In the beginning I was a loud snorer it has apparently gone down by utilizing an eye mask that puts pressure on my nose as well. Just about everyday my % of deep sleep is falling into the 45-49% range with one bad night being 23%.
Sleep timer - I will be trying this program this weekend once my trial version of sleep as android is up. I want to test it over the weekend so I dont miss work or anything. will update my experience
Anyone have experience with other programs or the ones I mentioned?
Electric Sleep - Not tried yet
Smart Alarm Clock -Not tried yet
Gentle Alarm -Not tried yet
Suffering fron DSPS and Non24-h sleep/wake syndrome so it's crucial for me to monitor my sleep. Up to a year ago I was using SleepSense for WP6 when I reverted to Sleep as Android and was amazed by the features.
However recently I discovered Sleep Time which works in a similar way but is way more simple. Just enter the time, the offset, a couple of settings and you're good to go. Plus, the shake-to-snooze feature is awesome. I couldn't decide which one to use so I'm using them both on my two devices lol.
Sleep as android Trial ran out. I have been using sleep time I will post my thoughts on it below.
I like the charts given by sleep time a little more and it attempts to break your sleep into 3 segments (wake, light sleep, deep sleep). regarding the statistics, I am in the same range of sleep efficiency that I was with android so whether it is accurate or not remains to be seen but it is at least consistent. Another thing I can not vouch for on Sleep as android but the "algorithm" claim suggested by sleep time I believe is BS.
Theory, the app measures your movement throughout the night you set an alarm that is the "absolute latest" you can wake up. Then you tell the app either 10/20/30 minutes before the alarm you are willing for it to begin going off. Ideally the app monitors your sleep and as you come out of your deep sleep or in a light sleep phase the alarm is supposed to begin going off. This app is steadfast on ticking to the rules, you say 10 minutes with an alarm of 7 its gonna wake you at 650 everyday whether your in deep sleep or not. I notice my wakes are not as "refreshed" as SAAD was.
Bottom line, I like seeing the graph on this and it is very light on the options, but you cant expect much for free. Personally though, until they fix their setup and stop claiming it is an algorithm waking you up, I could just as easily just set my alarm to wake me up 10 minutes sooner.
Will begin trying another app over the weekend.
I haven't heard of these type programs, but now I'm intrigued (thanks for bringing them up in the forum).
As I understand, we have to allocate a window of time when the alarm might go off. So if I need to get up 5:00 absolute latest, the window might be 4:30 to 5:00.
a few questions:
1 - is 30 minutes a big enough window to make any difference?
2 - is this any better than just setting tradiaional alarm for 4:30 and hitting snooze until you're ready to get out of bed (or until it's 5:00, whichever comes first).
3 -you have to keep the phone in bed with you? How do you avoid rolling over on it?
electricpete1 said:
As I understand, we have to allocate a window of time when the alarm might go off. So if I need to get up 5:00 absolute latest, the window might be 4:30 to 5:00.
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Yup.
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1 - is 30 minutes a big enough window to make any difference?
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Short answer, yes. Provided that the app actually works as intended and does not just hit the alarm at the earliest time possible!
Long answer, this has to do with the duration of the sleep cycles, which last about 60 to 90 minutes on average, depending on the person. Those cycles consist of five sleep stages, stage 1, stage 2 (light sleep), stage 3 and 4 (deep sleep) and stage 5 (or REM). In general your sleep goes like this: [stage 1, 2, 3, 4, 3, 2, REM] - [2, 3, 4, 3, 2, REM] - [2, 3, 4, 3, 2, REM] etc.
The important thing is that during stage 2 and REM its easier to wake up, and both those stages last more than the rest, taking up to 65-75% of the whole sleep cycle. So, 30 minutes should be an ideal offset. No matter what time you set the alarm, it's almost certain that 30 minutes before that you will eventually enter light sleep or REM sleep.
That's how these kind of apps work, they're supposed to detect the sleep stage you're on using the accelerometer (based on any movements) and wake you up only during "light" sleep.
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2 - is this any better than just setting tradiaional alarm for 4:30 and hitting snooze until you're ready to get out of bed (or until it's 5:00, whichever comes first).
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Theoretically, it is. If you just set the alarm earlier and it rings while you're in deep sleep, it could be a lot harder to wake up plus you will probably still feel tired and drowsy, possibly for the rest of the day. If, however, the alarm rings while you're in light sleep or REM sleep, it will be easier for you to wake up and you will definitely feel more refreshed.
I've woken up during deep sleep after 8:30 hours and felt awful for the rest of the day. I've woken up during light sleep after just three hours of sleep and had enough energy to pull an all-nigher the next night. It all comes down to general sleep hygiene of course but the actual sleep stage on which you wake up can and will have an effect on the quality of your sleep.
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3 -you have to keep the phone in bed with you? How do you avoid rolling over on it?
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I usually keep it right next to my pillow (flight mode on), in it's case and connected to the charger.
From what I can tell I have it disabled, but every day when I wake up my display is on the lock screen (dim) with the notifications that arrived while I was sleeping.
Is the only way to stop this from happening right now basically to completely disable previews (including on double tap/pick up)?
Edit: It's only happening when plugged in.
Haven't seem this at all. Make sure you have always on display and anything like "lift to check" turned off
I dont use my phone often. 95% of the time it sits on my desk. At night, I have found my issues and now have it where it properly enters deep sleep at night.
During the day, while my phone sits on my desk doing nothing for 8+hours, it will not enter deep sleep at all. Are there specific apps or services or settings that are hyper active only during the day? It seems the vast majority of wake locks come from google play services but I can't disable all the permissions for that to get it under control.
I noticed this on my S22U XSA updated to one UI5.1. Sleep mode (designed to turn off notifications, etc) turns on an alarm at the end of sleep mode.
Even if I change sleep mode to tell it not turn on an alarm, the next day, it is back with an alarm on.
Does anyone else use sleep mode who has seen this?
Does anyone know how to provide feedback to Samsung?
Well...I experienced the same and this on both the S21 ultra and the S22 ultra since the update to UI5.1
Been playing around with it and it seems that the sleep mode triggers it.
I have now do not disturb activated and sleep deactivated.
So in effect do not disturb does the same as sleep mode that all notifications, calls etc are blocked unless you allowed different. At the end do not disturb goes off without an alarm. I have it set for the full week including weekend,
I have not really understood the idea of this sleep mode except that it has more options than a simple alarm.
I couldn't turn off the alarm today ... Pressed so many times and nothing happened.
Had to unlock and exit the app.
I discovered this by accident the other day, super irritating "feature" imo - I already have an alarm set (which, through the magic of Tasker and intents, triggers my Home Assistant server to do a bunch of other stuff) and I figured "sleep mode" would be more like DND, but nope. Sleep Mode got disabled reeaaall quick.