I dont use my phone often. 95% of the time it sits on my desk. At night, I have found my issues and now have it where it properly enters deep sleep at night.
During the day, while my phone sits on my desk doing nothing for 8+hours, it will not enter deep sleep at all. Are there specific apps or services or settings that are hyper active only during the day? It seems the vast majority of wake locks come from google play services but I can't disable all the permissions for that to get it under control.
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I use awesome off to turn my pad on and off so I don't have to use the power switch all the time. I always do this so I don't have to go through the whole boot up process when I want to use it. I noticed that when I wake up in the morning the pad is dead or almost dead. Is there a better way to put this to sleep at night? There is always so much stuff running that kills the battery. I read on here somewhere that someone was not even losing 1% by putting it in some deep sleep. Is there a mode for long time sleep that does not use battery or run any processes? But without shutting it down all the way.
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Can't you just set the tablet to sleep in 5 or so minutes after being inactive?
You can have the tab cut wifi off in sleep also.
I don't do the wifi off in sleep tho...sometimes it doesn't reconnect after a wake up.
I don't know what awesome off is...I'll have to check that out.
My tab just goes into sleep after 10 minutes when I set it down.
The problem is awesome off. It won't let the pad sleep and is constantly checking for movement, light levels etc. Dump it and use the power button to turn it off and on.
Battery dies
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I use awesome off to turn my pad on and off so I don't have to use the power switch all the time. I always do this so I don't have to go through the whole boot up process when I want to use it. I noticed that when I wake up in the morning the pad is dead or almost dead. Is there a better way to put this to sleep at night? There is always so much stuff running that kills the battery. I read on here somewhere that someone was not even losing 1% by putting it in some deep sleep. Is there a mode for long time sleep that does not use battery or run any processes? But without shutting it down all the way.
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I have Nook color power button donate that I got when I had my old rooted Nook color with flaky on off switch. It was in my google apps when I was loading apps on my infinity so I figured try it and see what happens lol It works remarkably well on my tab and does put it into deep sleep . See attached. I have not used my tablet much in last day but you can see that it does put it to sleep and turns wifi on and off and also reboots. Also BTW I then tried it on my rooted ICS leak Bionic and it gives reboot function instead of the long drawn out shut down then turn on process. It does not speed up any of these functions as far as rebooting.
Could be the "wifi location drain"-bug with google maps. From reading the forums it seems quite a few people have it without knowing it. You can of course disable wifi while sleeping, but this will not cure the main issue.
Turn the location settings on in google maps, then make sure that unneeded check boxes are disabled under location settings menu and you should be fine after that. The interesting part here is that google maps will drain the wifi even when the settings are not enabled, perhaps because you can't access the underlying menu without first enabling it. So only after you first enable this setting in maps will it work correctly.
Hopefully this helps, it did for me ..
Yoop,
I watched the awesome off YT video and it didn't look as though the tablet was being sent into full sleep.
I guess with it just grinding away essentially not shut down into a battery save mode it would die.
Doesn't the Tegra3 have a 5th core for minimum power processing or fast wake up?
sorry, ive been looking around and I see in the Liquid Rom thread that it has a SOD problem. I looked around for a bit and i couldn't manage to find what it stands for. I think i might have it because sometimes when i turn my screen on, the touch response doesn't respond. I have to turn off my screen and turn it on again to make it work. I'm unsure if its a aosp problem cause i don't remember getting this problem in Sense
It stands for sleep of death, so it is a deep sleep problem.
Its not an AOSP problem, Ive never had it on Dark Jelly CM10 at least.
SOD stands for Sleep Of Death like the above poster said, and can result in a number of things.
The TF101 was plauged by SOD, and on that device sometimes the screen wouldnt turn on after a deep sleep. It also did random reboots during deep sleep and hanged at the boot sequence - draining the battery in no time at all. That was very frustrating.
A workaround for the TF was to use an app that woke the device up every now and then, so it didnt deep sleep for long periods of time. It drained the battery a bit faster, but it was quite ok.
Personally I worked around it by never letting wifi turn off - even during deep sleep, then set up some task that used wifi such as weather updates every 30min, msn, rss feeds etc.
Basically, SOD is commonly used when you wake a device up and it doesnt act as it should and forces you to reboot/remove battery/wait for battery to drain/etc
As the title asks, what is it? I know that turning off the screen with power button is not sleeping. I believe it is the state when it takes more than a second (lag) to unlock the screen. This means that the phone was in sleep state and I woke it up. But the question remains, that what is it? How and when is it activated? What happens when the phone is sleeping? Effect on battery (I believe it's positive)? The notifications like sms and call? Is only the screen asleep or are the other functions sleeping as well? Final question, Can I activate the sleep mode with the help of an application if it helps save the battery?
Note that I don't want to use battery saver apps because I don't want anything on my phone to stop. I paid for the whole phone, "including" gps, wifi and things like that. Smartphones are for us, we are not for smartphones.
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As the title asks, what is it? I know that turning off the screen with power button is not sleeping. I believe it is the state when it takes more than a second (lag) to unlock the screen. This means that the phone was in sleep state and I woke it up. But the question remains, that what is it? How and when is it activated? What happens when the phone is sleeping? Effect on battery (I believe it's positive)? The notifications like sms and call? Is only the screen asleep or are the other functions sleeping as well? Final question, Can I activate the sleep mode with the help of an application if it helps save the battery?
Note that I don't want to use battery saver apps because I don't want anything on my phone to stop. I paid for the whole phone, "including" gps, wifi and things like that. Smartphones are for us, we are not for smartphones.
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Technically; sleep mode starts the moment the screen is switched off. With the exception of applications which can prevent the phone from fully 'sleeping'. A good and obvious example is the music application which keeps the phone awake in order to play music.
There's really nothing special about sleep mode except that the phone will execute a lot more tasks together but less frequently in order to save power, so you're still able to receive all messages, emails, calls and all notifications (from apps). Applications can also be informed about the change in power state (awake to sleep and sleep to awake) and therefore change the way they behave.
The amount of sleep time the phone gets is dependent on the apps you have installed and the amount of emails, calls and other notifications you get. There isn't a way to enable 'sleep mode' with an application as it would make little difference if your display is on. Your display is the main cause of power consumption, as is true with all smartphones.
Battery Saver apps are dangerous, by killing apps they have a negative impact on the phone. If the application is needed, the phone will restart it and add to the CPU cycles. The same goes with memory freeing apps. GPS/Bluetooth/WiFi are there for when you need them. Keeping them on when they're not needed is a waste of the phone's resources. As the more CPU cycles they use, the more power they consume.
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Technically; sleep mode starts the moment the screen is switched off. With the exception of applications which can prevent the phone from fully 'sleeping'. A good and obvious example is the music application which keeps the phone awake in order to play music.
There's really nothing special about sleep mode except that the phone will execute a lot more tasks together but less frequently in order to save power, so you're still able to receive all messages, emails, calls and all notifications (from apps). Applications can also be informed about the change in power state (awake to sleep and sleep to awake) and therefore change the way they behave.
The amount of sleep time the phone gets is dependent on the apps you have installed and the amount of emails, calls and other notifications you get. There isn't a way to enable 'sleep mode' with an application as it would make little difference if your display is on. Your display is the main cause of power consumption, as is true with all smartphones.
Battery Saver apps are dangerous, by killing apps they have a negative impact on the phone. If the application is needed, the phone will restart it and add to the CPU cycles. The same goes with memory freeing apps. GPS/Bluetooth/WiFi are there for when you need them. Keeping them on when they're not needed is a waste of the phone's resources. As the more CPU cycles they use, the more power they consume.
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That's a good explanation
I have read about term "deep sleep" while searching for this, but the explanations on the internet are not clear to me. I have understood a part of it, that this state comes when phone is at rest for too long. The phone pauses apps and their processes, except those who are downloading e.g games and only does basic tasks such as incoming communications (message, call etc.) and sync. Again, I could not find answer to when it state/mode starts.
About GPS/Bluetooth/WiFi: I said this because I had seen people talking about how they have to force otherwise unnecessary restrictions on them and thus have to worry too much to save their batteries. This is what I don't like. Technology is made to facilitate people and to make their lives easy, that's what I believe. On the other hand, I always keep bluetooth off because I need it very rarely. Well, you may have other preferences but I have to keep gps on in order to geo tag photos and to make it ready whenever I open maps etc. Wifi according to me is life blood of smartphones. So I can't live without it either.
When I had Nokia 5800 I had to turn off auto rotate because its menu took time to refresh if I turned the phone by mistake. That was the time when I came to know how bad it feels to go through the settings to turn it on when I need it urgently.
I have instaled slimkat with minimal gapps on my Galaxy S3 and noticed the battery was going down very fast
So, I installed betterbatterstats, and noticed that the cpu never enters deep sleep when I have the location service enabled. Even when it doesn't show the location icon (that one that shows when I open waze or google maps).
Disableing the location services the cpu is able to enter deep sleep again. But it shouldn't happen when the gps isn't being used, as far as I know. It didn't happen with the original ROM. The battery don't last for more than 4 hours if I let that enabled.
Also, the slimroms forums is returning a 403 forbidden error when I try to register there. Is it down?
Every now and then, I will be fast asleep when all of a sudden, my watch starts vibrating. I wake up and check the notification, which effectively states, "Hey, man! Were you asleep?"
So I dismiss the notification and go back to sleep. Just as I am finally nodding off again, my watch starts vibrating again. This time it reads, "Tap here to find out why sleep is important."
At this point I'm thinking, "My watch can sleep in the microwave... Do this to me again and I'll turn it on!"
...My watch stays silent for the rest of the night.
Anyway, is there any way to disable the god awful sleep detection? It has never worked properly anyway. My watches life depends on a solution.
I have a different issue with sleep detection. When I fall asleep during travel, either in car or train, my Galaxy Watch 4 doesn’t recognise my sleep. Is it the same of all or should I adjust some setting?