A bit lost... what unit do I have? - MTCD Android Head Units Q&A

I am unsure what unit I have and what I can use for updates/rooting and other goodies.
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You have a MTCD, KLD is the manufacturer, with a PX5 system on module (SOM).

When I look in the available ROMs I don't seem to find this MTCD KLD combination. Am I not looking in the right place? And if so where is the right place?
Or is it that all MTCD units use the same ROMs regardless of the manufacturer? Of course px3 or px5 variants would use ROMs built for that particular px.

devis said:
I am unsure what unit I have and what I can use for updates/rooting and other goodies.
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Hi i have same unit that recently bought
I cant find update for my unit

Here you are: https://yadi.sk/d/umCvHqCDzHccr

devis said:
When I look in the available ROMs I don't seem to find this MTCD KLD combination. Am I not looking in the right place? And if so where is the right place?
Or is it that all MTCD units use the same ROMs regardless of the manufacturer? Of course px3 or px5 variants would use ROMs built for that particular px.
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The head units are really in two parts, "Android hardware" + "car radio stuff". The "car radio stuff" is the MCU, KLD in your case.

devis said:
When I look in the available ROMs I don't seem to find this MTCD KLD combination. Am I not looking in the right place? And if so where is the right place?
Or is it that all MTCD units use the same ROMs regardless of the manufacturer? Of course px3 or px5 variants would use ROMs built for that particular px.
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When it comes to ROMs you can use any RK3368/PX5 ROM, its only when it comes to flashing MCUs that the "KLD" bit is relevant.

Related

Root/roms for Eonon android car radio

I'm buying one of these from China which run android 4.2.2. I think these Eonon units used to run with WinCE in the background but they are now pure android with their own car home layover.
Does anyone know if these have been rooted/romd yet or if not is anyone interested in trying?
http://m.eonon.com/productshow.aspx?pno=GA5167
Nope. We don't deal alot with China based devices due to them lieing about hardware and lack of kernel source.
FYI for anyone searching for this:
Eonon units are the same type of units discussed in the HuiFei thread, root and roms are available. There are details in the first post to determine your MCU, how to root, and available roms.

Has anyone tried the android 7.1 2gb 32gb octo core units yet??

Posted in wrong thread sorry
As title im thinking of buying this unit
http://www.autopumpkin.co.uk/vw-ste...ation-for-vw-skoda-seat-series-octa-core.html
for my octavia vrs and wondered if anyone has opinions on them as they are octo with 7.1??
Or would the android 6.0 4gb! 32gb octo core be better / more stable??????
like this one
http://xtrons.com/pe96mtvpl-9-hd-oc...-car-stereo-custom-fit-for-vw-seat-skoda.html
cheers
This looks pretty weird to me. The hardware facts (Octo-Core [Big.Little], 2GB RAM and 32GB ROM) sounds like a normal PX5 unit. PX5 however is not available with Android 7. Only Android 6 is available.
The description also says "OS: Android 7.1 Marshmallow" which is kind of wrong since Android 7 is Android N (Nougat), not Marshmallow.
I guess if you order it you will get a PX5 unit with Android 6 on it even if all pictures seem to be indicating Android 7.1.
Alternatively you might get a PX3 unit with Android 7.1 on it. There are PX3 units with 2GB RAM as of my knowledge. But then the Ocata-Core description is wrong. So either of them is wrong or you would get some complete custom design.
Anyway there are rumors that soon there will be Android 8/O/Oreo available for PX5. So I think this is the best way to do. It also seems that the first PX5 units with 4GB RAM are about to appear on the market.
SkyBeam2048 said:
This looks pretty weird to me. The hardware facts (Octo-Core [Big.Little], 2GB RAM and 32GB ROM) sounds like a normal PX5 unit. PX5 however is not available with Android 7. Only Android 6 is available.
The description also says "OS: Android 7.1 Marshmallow" which is kind of wrong since Android 7 is Android N (Nougat), not Marshmallow.
I guess if you order it you will get a PX5 unit with Android 6 on it even if all pictures seem to be indicating Android 7.1.
Alternatively you might get a PX3 unit with Android 7.1 on it. There are PX3 units with 2GB RAM as of my knowledge. But then the Ocata-Core description is wrong. So either of them is wrong or you would get some complete custom design.
Anyway there are rumors that soon there will be Android 8/O/Oreo available for PX5. So I think this is the best way to do. It also seems that the first PX5 units with 4GB RAM are about to appear on the market.
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isnt the 2nd link i posted a px5 with 4gb of ram?
If its not true then its best i wait for an oreo version with hopefully 4gb and octo-core fingers crossed, was hoping for it by christmas.
here the .com link to the 7.1 with 2gb 32gb octocore
http://www.autopumpkin.com/android-...le-din-7-inch-touch-screen-with-gps-navi.html
jtheg said:
isnt the 2nd link i posted a px5 with 4gb of ram?
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This is true. My reply was more about the first link with technical data which does not seem to comply to PX5 units or are invalid anyaway (Android 7 isn't Marshmallow).
Likely both units are PX5 based. The second one is pretty sure a normal PX5 unit with 4GB RAM.
I also don't believe we will see any issues on 2GB devices on Oreo. Oreo isn't much more demanding regarding CPU and memory resources than Android 6/M. Also I am personally using this device as a head unit (some navigatin, music, streaming, perhaps some video playback) but no real heavy applications which would require more than 2GB of RAM. Of course there are lots of inefficient apps out there but get real, 2GB is quite a lot of memory.
Looking forward to see the first Oreo releases.
Too bad nobody seems to release the code so we would see much more and better custom ROMs.
SkyBeam2048 said:
This is true. My reply was more about the first link with technical data which does not seem to comply to PX5 units or are invalid anyaway (Android 7 isn't Marshmallow).
Likely both units are PX5 based. The second one is pretty sure a normal PX5 unit with 4GB RAM.
I also don't believe we will see any issues on 2GB devices on Oreo. Oreo isn't much more demanding regarding CPU and memory resources than Android 6/M. Also I am personally using this device as a head unit (some navigatin, music, streaming, perhaps some video playback) but no real heavy applications which would require more than 2GB of RAM. Of course there are lots of inefficient apps out there but get real, 2GB is quite a lot of memory.
Looking forward to see the first Oreo releases.
Too bad nobody seems to release the code so we would see much more and better custom ROMs.
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can you post a link to the unit you have please.
are you having any major issues with it? do you have the dab dongle etc.
my last unit was a 1gb 4.4 unit and it was so bad it went inn the bin as erisin tried a repair and sent it back useless!!!
Thanks
jtheg said:
can you post a link to the unit you have please.
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Well, this won't be very helpful. I currently own a Subaru Levorg and got something like this here. But it's car specific shaping, no standard 2-DIN form factor. Also it didn't really fit my cars connectors so I fixed it by soldering my own cables. But it's a standard PX5 unit from KLD manufacturer.
jtheg said:
are you having any major issues with it? do you have the dab dongle etc.
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No Major issues with it, only minor. Not counting the wrong cable harness as this was an issue of my car not being in any supported list.
So I am mainly suffering from standard PX5/ROM limitations. For example Google Maps in latest version hangs if terminated by auto-shutdown. There is a fix available here but it requires root access to clean the cache of another application.
Also my unit has some audible noise level which is noticeable at low volume levels. Not really an issue while driving but still annoying. The noise seems also to be dependent on touchscreen input. It's a sign of inappropriate filtering inside the unit.
My unit also suffered from very bad WLAN reception initially but this was clearly related to the bad antennas mounted to my device. I did a post about my modifications here. In addition I have meanwhile added some good WiFi Antennas directly into the dash center display which further improved reception.
These units are also known to cause slow WiFi when Bluetooth devices (phones) are connected. In such case the WiFi transfer rate drops to almost 0. Disconnecting Bluetooth helps.
Also there is a know problem called "bluetooth echo" which appears on most MTCD units during bluetooth phone calls. There is a fix available here (again, requires root). For me this is not so important as I don't use Bluetooth calling in my car regularly.
Some devices seem to have a really bad integrated microphone. Attaching an external mic usually helps. My car has ana amplified microphone built-in which I used. It works pretty well. I am not using the built-in microphone from the head unit therefore.
There seem to be unresolved issues about mounting portable mass storage devices. The re-mount after resume seems to take several minutes. Can't comment on this really as my unit only has the GPS card and I rarely use USB/GPS storage to store some music currently.
I also do have DAB+. It works pretty well. I initially bought my head unit with a DAB+ box like this (black metal box with 8-pin proprietary connector). However this never worked and the DAB+ app did not recognize it. Then I went for a simple Joying USB DAB+ receiver like this. This worked very well. Except my antenna setup with stock amplified FM antenna and splitter did not work very well. My recommendation here: Don't waste your money on splitters and amplifiers, get yourself a decent DAB+ roof antenna, install it and you will be happy. I spent lots of time on this as I didn't want to touch my rooftop antenna. Finally I was bout to trash DAB+ as it was just no fun with the bad reception. Replacing the roof antenna changed this completely. I have mounted the Antennentechnik Bad Blankenburg (ABB) 3785.01 with FM, GPS and DAB+ including 20dB gain on DAB+ band. Since then I have very stable reception and I am happy with DAB+ and never used FM again.
There was another issue with the DAB+ application included with my head unit. Always when it was sent to the background the music playback was stuttering. So the application only works when in foreground. Very annoying. However for this there is a modded/fixed version available here.
Hmm, this looks all very complex and many issues. But I am still happy with it. The Android HU allows me to run my own software or use anything available on the play store or even develop some custom solution myself. Currently I am mainly using it for DAB+ playback as well as offline navigation using "Here WeGo" or online navigation using Google Maps.
I am still hoping for the sources to be released so we could make these units a thousand times more useful - but this might remain a dream.
thanks for the excellent info posted there much appreciated. ill probably wait a few months to see what new unit appear but i guess they will have there annoying little issues too. I mainly want mine for gps nav and music via sd or usb and dab radio. not neading bluetooth but will connect to my phone hotspot for online nav.
thanks for the info mate.
Just within the last month RK3368/PX5 units have appeared with what looks like a slightly updated version of MM (different apps), these are the units in the second link.
The 7.1.1 Marshmallow (lol) units are either Allwinner or Tegra based units but theyre not MTCD/E units.
Oreo is being worked on for MTCD/E RK3368/PX5 untis, but its not out yet.
I think the 8 core Android 7.1 units are Allwinner T8. They've been popping up in China the last few weeks
So what does this all mean with the allwinner t8 good or not . I'm lost lol.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWVPuKsdkGE
This tablet uses the same chip. I'd wait for review on a head unit since software has a lot to say on performance also, but it looks a lot faster than the old ones
jtheg said:
So what does this all mean with the allwinner t8 good or not . I'm lost lol.
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It means that they have Allwinner processors.
It also means that theyre not MTCD/E units, so youre in the wrong forum for advice about them.
typos1 said:
It means that they have Allwinner processors.
It also means that theyre not MTCD/E units, so youre in the wrong forum for advice about them.
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Can't say fairer than that lol
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typos1 said:
It means that they have Allwinner processors.
It also means that theyre not MTCD/E units, so youre in the wrong forum for advice about them.
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Just got this off autopimpkin
Hello,*
Thanks for contacting pumpkin customer service.
Yes, it is really 2gb, 32gb android 7.1 system, it is octo*core*.
The*CPU is Octa-core Cortex-A7* processor*
*
Looking forward for your sooner reply.
Best Regards,
Monica Autopumpkin
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jtheg said:
Just got this off autopimpkin
Hello,*
Thanks for contacting pumpkin customer service.
Yes, it is really 2gb, 32gb android 7.1 system, it is octo*core*.
The*CPU is Octa-core Cortex-A7* processor*
*
Looking forward for your sooner reply.
Best Regards,
Monica Autopumpkin
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Like most sellers, Pumpkin have very little idea of what theyre actually selling, theyve just told you the number of cores and the ARM version of the cpu, not the manufacturer.
Eonon GA2168 T8 already rooted
Got my octacore T8 32/2 with nougat 7.1.2 , love it, was no need to root as it already was .
It takes everything i throw at it, all other head units i owned i had to root and su but Igo and all my other apps who normaly need rooting just fired up
when checking with root checker it says rooted
Tried to post screenshots from CPU-Z here but to much work
Tuxnor said:
Got my octacore T8 32/2 with nougat 7.1.2 , love it, was no need to root as it already was .
It takes everything i throw at it, all other head units i owned i had to root and su but Igo and all my other apps who normaly need rooting just fired up
when checking with root checker it says rooted
Tried to post screenshots from CPU-Z here but to much work
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Eonon are sellers only, there are no "Eonon" units, they sell units from a several different manufacturers, the MCU will tell you who makes your unit.
And youre in the wrong forum - this forum is for MTCD and MTCE units, there are no T8 MTCD/E units, try the Android Headunits General forum.
Tuxnor said:
Got my octacore T8 32/2 with nougat 7.1.2 , love it, was no need to root as it already was .
It takes everything i throw at it, all other head units i owned i had to root and su but Igo and all my other apps who normaly need rooting just fired up
when checking with root checker it says rooted
Tried to post screenshots from CPU-Z here but to much work
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Excuse me for replying to a post in the wrong forum, but does this model support sleep?
typos1 said:
Eonon are sellers only, there are no "Eonon" units, they sell units from a several different manufacturers, the MCU will tell you who makes your unit.
And youre in the wrong forum - this forum is for MTCD and MTCE units, there are no T8 MTCD/E units, try the Android Headunits General forum.
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Ok i now that Eonon is not a "factory" the model is a eonon GA2168 made for eonon with Eonon seal and labels on. can not find simular models from any of the other sellers,only at eonon website..
sorry did not know this was wrong thread as it started out with octacore and a lot of T8 posts.
Thanks for advice to the right forum.
Have a jolly merry christmas
Tuxnor said:
Ok i now that Eonon is not a "factory" the model is a eonon GA2168 made for eonon with Eonon seal and labels on. can not find simular models from any of the other sellers,only at eonon website..
sorry did not know this was wrong thread as it started out with octacore and a lot of T8 posts.
Thanks for advice to the right forum.
Have a jolly merry christmas
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You use the MCU to identify your unit, using that and going through all the threads in the Android Headunits general forum should help you identify your unit.

MTCD too MTCE?

Hi, sorry if this has been asked before, i have tried to look through the hundreds of posts but cannot seem to find an answer ( cant see the wood for the trees).
Can i upgrade my MTCD_GS_v2.58_3 to the MTCE_GSv2.78? What is the difference between MTCD and MTCE?
Also what is the difference in the Under score last number? i see some are V2.58 and then there is V2.58_3.
lastly is there an Oreo * update for marshmallow 6.0.1.
my head unit is the 2gb/32gb px5 octacore
Thanks
Paul2482 said:
Hi, sorry if this has been asked before, i have tried to look through the hundreds of posts but cannot seem to find an answer ( cant see the wood for the trees).
Can i upgrade my MTCD_GS_v2.58_3 to the MTCE_GSv2.78? What is the difference between MTCD and MTCE?
Also what is the difference in the Under score last number? i see some are V2.58 and then there is V2.58_3.
lastly is there an Oreo * update for marshmallow 6.0.1.
my head unit is the 2gb/32gb px5 octacore
Thanks
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Hi, did you ever found out? I have exactly the same question.
kind regards
Heiner
MTCE is the latest version of MTCD so yes you can upgrade
Apparently, no one really knows about it
Cross compatibility thread. TLDR, MTCD=MTCE

[Q] Best rootable MTCD for the price.

So my old touch head unit craped the bed and I'm looking to get a decent Android auto one I understand mtcd is the newer models for headunits, how ever I'm looking for one that I can play around with and is rootable.
Extra info I drive a Scion XA 05, I would be having a shop do the install. I have plenty of experience with rooting Android phones and tablets, this is just a new area and I wanna cover everything before making a choice.
xTalc said:
So my old touch head unit craped the bed and I'm looking to get a decent Android auto one I understand mtcd is the newer models for headunits, how ever I'm looking for one that I can play around with and is rootable.
Extra info I drive a Scion XA 05, I would be having a shop do the install. I have plenty of experience with rooting Android phones and tablets, this is just a new area and I wanna cover everything before making a choice.
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Just make sure you get an MTCD/MTCE unit with Rockchip PX5 and you will be able to root and apply mods
millab said:
Just make sure you get an MTCD/MTCE unit with Rockchip PX5 and you will be able to root and apply mods
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Alright that clears up that part, I'm assuming I'm stuck buying from the Chinese market for these?
And as long as the unit is a double din it should fit correct. Sorry for all the questions, I'm trying to do this on a tight budget.
millab said:
Just make sure you get an MTCD/MTCE unit with Rockchip PX5 and you will be able to root and apply mods
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Can I ask you for a link? for 8.0 px5?

Canbus Erisin on an Isudar radio?

I have a Isudar radio for my alfa 159 car.
I have read Erisin radio works perfect in a 159 car. Its canbus box is:
Erisin ZF001 Special CanBus Decoder Box wihtout cable for ES7431FB - Erisinworldwide
Check
www.erisinworldwide.com
I would like to know if a canbus box of one brand works for radios of other brands?
I have contacted the seller Erisin and they cannot guarantee it will work in others brands.
Thank you very much
Is it an MTCD. Good grief people.
marchnz said:
Is it an MTCD. Good grief people.
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Yes, it is MTCD/E
My auto radio version is:
px3-userdebug 7.1.2 NHG47L eng.hct20180
MTCE_XRC_V2.80_1
2Gb/ 16Gb
Now I update mcu to HA 3.71, and I´m doing tests.
I have read this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/canbox-versions.3763383/
It is very very interesting

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