I'm a user who likes testing different ROMs, Kernels, etc. I had a Galaxy J3 2016 but recently I got a new J5 2017, which has that Knox protection.
I've been reading about this service but I still have some questions about it. As far as I concern, Knox's main function is to protect your device against information steal, It also knows if a modification is done to the system and that results on a warranty void. So here are the things I still don't know about Knox:
- When does Knox get triggered? When rooting your device? When you install a custom recovery? When you install a custom Kernel? Or only if you flash a custom ROM?
- How does a triggered Knox affect my device? Only voiding my warranty? Will I loose Knox's functions like the secure folder? Will I still get OTA Updates? Or I'll have to update manually?
- Is it possible to reset the Knox counter to 0?
Thank's for helping me out guys!
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I'm on the newest OTA of 5.1.1, and I want to root and don't really care about KNOX anymore. I just want to do so without wiping my phone or losing any data; custom ROMs are out of the question.
PignPong and Chainfire don't work for 5.1.1, the non-KNOX tripping solution breaks vital features, so I'm wondering if there is another way.
If you want root and not worried about knox flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...d-development/kernel-stockmod-kernel-t3100395 kernel to gain root.
I'm afraid there is still no method that will meet your needs.
Does this break anything? All features intact, no need to reset the phone?
Hi all,
I'm considering rooting my g955FD (s8 plus duo), can you list disadvantages of doing it?
I heard you lose private folder with root, is it true?
What are other issues, apart losing OTAs?
Thx
Joker87 said:
Hi all,
I'm considering rooting my g955FD (s8 plus duo), can you list disadvantages of doing it?
I heard you lose private folder with root, is it true?
What are other issues, apart losing OTAs?
Thx
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Once any custom binary is flashed, the knox couner goes 0x1. Therefore a Knox container cannot be made.
Once it's tripped, the following functions are lost forever: Samsung Pay, Secure Folder, and whatever else depends on Knox.
You still can probably use Android Pay, and be careful with how you store information on your device, but yes, there are features lost if you do it. If you use them, or plan to use them, don't root/flash.
If you're fine with the tradeoff, read carefully the threads (follow ALL steps when flashing TWRP, including the zip that disables dm-verity!!!), and start flashing.
I think you should not root the phone
This involves a lot of risk
Hey,
I tried some custom kernels but only Magisk make success fake knox 0x0.
I read that apps like Samsung Pay can easy recognise Magisk.
For now i have now only Magisk installed but Samsung Pay wont work.
Is possible to add to Stock Oreo ROM fake knox 0x0 without Magisk?
In resultat to have "Original STOCK ROM like before knox triped"
RE: Reset knox
Please note that there isn't a solid solution yet to reset knox. The best way is to change the motherboard or buy a new device instead. Since from Samsung Galaxy S5, samsung started influencing e-fuse technology to knox implement, knox reset isn't possible at all .
And you can find knox faked samsung firmware for your device in XDA. But even thou, you couldn't able to fake or make use on Samsung pay and Samsung pass. Those applications will verify both device status ( Custom binary or root privileges ) and knox status.
Hope this helps :laugh:
Device status is easy to make Oficial by changing sysscope, only fake knox is difficulter because of Magisk it is with root.
I wanted to try make full stock with only knox mod without root ;]
Wirusx said:
Device status is easy to make Oficial by changing sysscope, only fake knox is difficulter because of Magisk it is with root.
I wanted to try make full stock with only knox mod without root ;]
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You can't do it at all. The only way is to fake knox status by a custom kernel or modify the original kernel instead. But it's hard to modify / fake the original kernel to show knox 0x0. Because it has been encrypted and verify the original binary value in each boot. But you can give it a try..
I am sorry for being dumb by post this questions, I want to root my S7 so i can install costume rooms.
My question is; does rooting can affect my device and make problems?
What is this whole thing about the Samsung Knox?
What is the simple way to flash rom white/out root?
If i want to restore my phone to the stock, it is possible to do it?
And what about the warranty is the warranty will become void?
Thanks in advanced.
rheh104 said:
I am sorry for being dumb by post this questions, I want to root my S7 so i can install costume rooms.
My question is; does rooting can affect my device and make problems?
What is this whole thing about the Samsung Knox?
What is the simple way to flash rom white/out root?
If i want to restore my phone to the stock, it is possible to do it?
And what about the warranty is the warranty will become void?
Thanks in advanced.
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I think about root
U will get a lot of articale on google about
advantage of root and disadvantages of root
About knox
If you root your device, you trip the Knox Warranty bit. Knox services do not run on devices that have tripped the Warranty bit, because this indicates a device is rooted and flashed with an unofficial Android build
But u can flash custom rom without root but when u will flash any custom recovery your will warranty not be valid
And i don't about
Is there any way to revert your warranty of u have triggered knox
But u can easily come to your stock rom
With root or without root
shabbir143 said:
I think about root
U will get a lot of articale on google about
advantage of root and disadvantages of root
About knox
If you root your device, you trip the Knox Warranty bit. Knox services do not run on devices that have tripped the Warranty bit, because this indicates a device is rooted and flashed with an unofficial Android build
But u can flash custom rom without root but when u will flash any custom recovery your will warranty not be valid
And i don't about
Is there any way to revert your warranty of u have triggered knox
But u can easily come to your stock rom
With root or without root
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And if i install rom how to install TWRP whiteout root?
And is it possible to delete TWRP?
rheh104 said:
And if i install rom how to install TWRP whiteout root?
And is it possible to delete TWRP?
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You must use Odin to flash twrp recovery, just watch on YouTube there are many useful videos about it. This is how you root your phone.
Yes it is possible to go back on stock Samsung rom by flashing stock rom from sammobile or updato site. Everything will be as it was before root except your Knox is void 0x1 and u cant use Samsung Pay ect.
Scorpionea said:
You must use Odin to flash twrp recovery, just watch on YouTube there are many useful videos about it. This is how you root your phone.
Yes it is possible to go back on stock Samsung rom by flashing stock rom from sammobile or updato site. Everything will be as it was before root except your Knox is void 0x1 and u cant use Samsung Pay ect.
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Samsung pay is not available in my country so...
rheh104 said:
Samsung pay is not available in my country so...
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So then it's no problem, but be sure to know what u doing . Watch few videos , watch again if u never done this before and you will get there.
Scorpionea said:
So then it's no problem, but be sure to know what u doing . Watch few videos , watch again if u never done this before and you will get there.
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Thanks for helping me out, one last thing; i have all my images on the samsung cloud and i found this thing: The following Knox services are affected if a Warranty bit is tripped.
Knox Platform for Enterprise
Existing Workspace's are permanently locked and the data is no longer accessible.
New Workspace's can't be created.
Knox Cloud Services
All Knox Cloud services stop working because they rely on a Knox license key to operate – For example, Knox Mobile Enrollment, Knox Configure, and Knox Manage.
Other Secure Samsung services
Samsung E-FOTA stops working.
Unique Knox security features stop working, such as Real Time Kernel Protection (RKP) , or Device Attestation.
Other Samsung Services that require Knox stop working – for example, Samsung Pay and Secure Folder.
If i will root my S7 all photos will be locked or removed?
rheh104 said:
Thanks for helping me out, one last thing; i have all my images on the samsung cloud and i found this thing: The following Knox services are affected if a Warranty bit is tripped.
Knox Platform for Enterprise
Existing Workspace's are permanently locked and the data is no longer accessible.
New Workspace's can't be created.
Knox Cloud Services
All Knox Cloud services stop working because they rely on a Knox license key to operate – For example, Knox Mobile Enrollment, Knox Configure, and Knox Manage.
Other Secure Samsung services
Samsung E-FOTA stops working.
Unique Knox security features stop working, such as Real Time Kernel Protection (RKP) , or Device Attestation.
Other Samsung Services that require Knox stop working – for example, Samsung Pay and Secure Folder.
If i will root my S7 all photos will be locked or removed?
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Hm I really dont know, just tried to search a bit and couldn't find much info . It seems Samsung cloud isn't affected by root.
Personally I dont use Samsung cloud .
Scorpionea said:
Hm I really dont know, just tried to search a bit and couldn't find much info . It seems Samsung cloud isn't affected by root.
Personally I dont use Samsung cloud .
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Just raed about this knox **** and some people said that they root their devices and the root ruined thiers devices oh **** man it is a big dilemma
rheh104 said:
Just raed about this knox **** and some people said that they root their devices and the root ruined thiers devices oh **** man it is a big dilemma
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Nope ,root will not ruined your device at all. Dunno what u have read but people can make mistakes trying to root it or whatever they trying to do.
Can't help you much then this, it's your call to root it or not
Hello everyone,
Is it possible to restore biometric data and Samsung Pass after unrooting a Samsung phone, relocking the OEM bootloader and doing a full factory restore (hard reset) ???
Thanks in advance for your help and feedback.
Good appetite and have a nice day
If those apps depend on Samsung security features...most likely no.
Samsung uses an "e-fuse" (basically a write once registry) that is tripped if modified or custom images are flashed to the device. It doesn't matter whether you simply rooted with Magisk, or flashed TWRP, or flashed a custom ROM - once Knox is tripped, it is permanent and cannot be reversed. Therefore, even if you restore the device to its original factory configuration, Knox will remain tripped and any apps that depend on it will not work.