Hey,
I tried some custom kernels but only Magisk make success fake knox 0x0.
I read that apps like Samsung Pay can easy recognise Magisk.
For now i have now only Magisk installed but Samsung Pay wont work.
Is possible to add to Stock Oreo ROM fake knox 0x0 without Magisk?
In resultat to have "Original STOCK ROM like before knox triped"
RE: Reset knox
Please note that there isn't a solid solution yet to reset knox. The best way is to change the motherboard or buy a new device instead. Since from Samsung Galaxy S5, samsung started influencing e-fuse technology to knox implement, knox reset isn't possible at all .
And you can find knox faked samsung firmware for your device in XDA. But even thou, you couldn't able to fake or make use on Samsung pay and Samsung pass. Those applications will verify both device status ( Custom binary or root privileges ) and knox status.
Hope this helps :laugh:
Device status is easy to make Oficial by changing sysscope, only fake knox is difficulter because of Magisk it is with root.
I wanted to try make full stock with only knox mod without root ;]
Wirusx said:
Device status is easy to make Oficial by changing sysscope, only fake knox is difficulter because of Magisk it is with root.
I wanted to try make full stock with only knox mod without root ;]
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You can't do it at all. The only way is to fake knox status by a custom kernel or modify the original kernel instead. But it's hard to modify / fake the original kernel to show knox 0x0. Because it has been encrypted and verify the original binary value in each boot. But you can give it a try..
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Hello guys. Just a short but very important question. I'll root my S7 Edge incl. TWRP. I've made some experience in past with rooting, customizing and so on... In almost every case I noticed performance issues. In past I tried do flash the stock firmwares to get it to the original back again, but I didn't get any offcial updates about OTA. Its my first Samsung smartphone and I read there is a problem with Knox (security system for customization).
So: If I root and so on, is there any REAL solution to get it in the current untouched original state back incl. the untouched Knox status? (can I completely backup the current firmware and data so that have in case of issue just to flash it back?)
Hope you understand my thoughts
Metero said:
Hello guys. Just a short but very important question. I'll root my S7 Edge incl. TWRP. I've made some experience in past with rooting, customizing and so on... In almost every case I noticed performance issues. In past I tried do flash the stock firmwares to get it to the original back again, but I didn't get any offcial updates about OTA. Its my first Samsung smartphone and I read there is a problem with Knox (security system for customization).
So: If I root and so on, is there any REAL solution to get it in the current untouched original state back incl. the untouched Knox status? (can I completely backup the current firmware and data so that have in case of issue just to flash it back?)
Hope you understand my thoughts
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Untouched firmware ...yes . just reflash a stock firmware
Reset knox back to 0 x 0 ......not possible , at least not at the moment
MAX 404 said:
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Untouched firmware ...yes . just reflash a stock firmware
Reset knox back to 0 x 0 ......not possible , at least not at the moment
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thank you. so it could be possible in future to set an almost changed knox value to 0x0? or just to prevent any change of the knox?
just another thought about bypassing knox... if it would be possible wouldn't it be a >big< security problem for samsung payment? not just for the costumer but for the seller?
what is actually the best method of rooting? is threre any difference? i found the CF auto root and the TWRP method (rooting after flashing the recovery). Just the difference between recovery or not?
Metero said:
thank you. so it could be possible in future to set an almost changed knox value to 0x0? or just to prevent any change of the knox?
just another thought about bypassing knox... if it would be possible wouldn't it be a >big< security problem for samsung payment? not just for the costumer but for the seller?
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Bypass knox bit setting to one , has been possible in older models and there been some progress and success in the S7 family but resetting it back to 0 never been possible
The e fuse 0 x 1 is not a security issue at all is just a way for Samsung to know you been messing with the device , you can reflash a stock firmware (odin) , have the knox bit set and be 1000% safe and knox security cover...
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Bypass knox bit setting to one , has been possible in older models and there been some progress and success in the S7 family but resetting it back to 0 never been possible
The e fuse 0 x 1 is not a security issue at all is just a way for Samsung to know you been messing with the device , you can reflash a stock firmware (odin) , have the knox bit set and be 1000% safe and knox security cover...
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yea for sure. but when you could costumize the software and the knox wouldn't change, samsung payment would be fully functional, you know? or doesn't it matter for samsung payment, if you change the knox value or not?
Metero said:
yea for sure. but when you could costumize the software and the knox wouldn't change, samsung payment would be fully functional, you know? or doesn't it matter for samsung payment, if you change the knox value or not?
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Samsung payment or knox does not care about the e fuse ( 0x 1 ) state , it cares about the integrity of the firmware installed , for example if stock firmware is flashed knox will see the system as original regardless of the e fuse state
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Samsung payment or knox does not care about the e fuse ( 0x 1 ) state , it cares about the integrity of the firmware installed , for example if stock firmware is flashed knox will see the system as original regardless of the e fuse state
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That goes against everything I've seen about Samsung Pay (or even Knox). Once you've tripped it (0x1) there's no way to get it back. Samsung Pay will not work even if you re-flash stock (unrooted) rom.
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Devhux said:
That goes against everything I've seen about Samsung Pay (or even Knox). Once you've tripped it (0x1) there's no way to get it back. Samsung Pay will not work even if you re-flash stock (unrooted) rom.
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my bad you are right , knox tripped no samsung pay
So yesterday nougat came out in my country
I was on noble rom s7e port
So i downloaded official firmware, reset my phone and flashed it
Everything work good but some apps refuse to open because knox says my phone is rooted
Now i downloaded some apps and they say my phone is stock.
I dont want to download any rom or root my phone
Anyone got suggestions on what to do?
HitSpecK0 said:
So yesterday nougat came out in my country
I was on noble rom s7e port
So i downloaded official firmware, reset my phone and flashed it
Everything work good but some apps refuse to open because knox says my phone is rooted
Now i downloaded some apps and they say my phone is stock.
I dont want to download any rom or root my phone
Anyone got suggestions on what to do?
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The fact you are on a s7e port which is a custom ROM means you had already tripped knox permanently, any app that required knox will not work anymore such as samsung pay, you can hide root via magisk and magisk hide, but just to reiterate once you trip knox it cannot b3 reversed
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The fact you are on a s7e port which is a custom ROM means you had already tripped knox permanently, any app that required knox will not work anymore such as samsung pay, you can hide root via magisk and magisk hide, but just to reiterate once you trip knox it cannot b3 reversed
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I wrote im not rooted
Im on stock nougat
I just asked if there any way to use shealth and spay
HitSpecK0 said:
I wrote im not rooted
Im on stock nougat
I just asked if there any way to use shealth and spay
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You're not understanding what I mean, once you trip knox by installing a rom like s7e port, doesn't matter if you return to stock rom, knox will remain tripped. You won't be able to use samsung pay at all because knox is permanently tripped, shealth should still work though, I'm in stock rooted MM, so can't confirm everything
Still not so virgin as I thouht is was. Samsung health is not working, security issu and KNOX can not be used, same issu. Is this because I had in the past installed dm-verivy cript on it?
Samsung Health is nagging about a rooted phone but it is not rooted anymore???
Does anyone know what this is?
The best way is to reflash with Odin. Factory reset it's not so clean as you think. A clean ROM install, is made via Odin. That will clear root for sure, but if you had a custom recovery, it will not hide Knox 0x1, but all the bugs will be gone.
I did a clean install via Odin. And oké the knox 0x1 is standing but nothing more. Did It now for three times but still samsung health not working and knox app the same. Is it the 0x1 that is doing this??? I dont get it.
This is recent that samsung health is not working because with my rooted S8 is samsung health also not working.
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I did a clean install via Odin. And oké the knox 0x1 is standing but nothing more. Did It now for three times but still samsung health not working and knox app the same. Is it the 0x1 that is doing this??? I dont get it.
This is recent that samsung health is not working because with my rooted S8 is samsung health also not working.
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This is why you read and do research before flashing things
Yes, it's because you tripped KNOX
Some apps depend on Knox being 0x0. If your Knox is 0x1, those apps will misbevahe, or not work at all.
Many people root to remove apps like Samsung Health, which they consider bloatware.
What is the main purpose for rooting, in your case?
Installing a custom ROM?
The Phone was rooted but I have a new S8 so my Phone is going to my wife. For her is a rooted telephone not needed. That`s why I made the phone stock.
Sometimes a factory reset is needed after a clean flash.
And you made it almost stock. As you can see, Knox being 0x1 can cause problems, like Samsung Pay not working, and lots of other apps.
It is not that hard. Paling Wit hour bank is bitter thans Samsung pay. Ifsamsun health is not werking, I install snotter app ?
I hope your wife feels the same way, about secure banking transactions.
Somehow on my S8+ with TWRP and custom ROM, KNOX isn't tripped unlike my S7 Edge. I've always thought that flashing custom recovery will trip KNOX. Any ideas why it isn't tripped? Mayby how to figure it out and reproduce?
Here's a screenshot from S8+
Some custom kernels will allow masking of Knox being tripped.
It is and apps that won't run with it tripped still will won't run. It is purely cosmetic...
did you try any other app to corroborate devcheck app finding?
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did you try any other app to corroborate devcheck app finding?
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I've just tried phone info Samsung from play store. Also reported as not tripped. Knox warranty void: 0x0
Can you recommend something else?
It could well be, as ultramag69 said earlier, that your custom rom is simply masking the fact that knox is in fact tripped. Try Secure Folder if it works
This is not a question for the Note 9 community.
To test, just try using something Knox related, like:
Secure Boot
Secure Folder
Samsung Pay
Samsung Pass
Could be related to SamFail but not sure.
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This is not a question for the Note 9 community.
To test, just try using something Knox related, like:
Secure Boot
Secure Folder
Samsung Pay
Samsung Pass
Could be related to SamFail but not sure.
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Well if it would be reproducible I would root Note 9 so to me it was Note 9 related.
It's the ROM that is masking it as mentioned above :crying:
I was hoping sami f**** up
Hello everyone,
Is it possible to restore biometric data and Samsung Pass after unrooting a Samsung phone, relocking the OEM bootloader and doing a full factory restore (hard reset) ???
Thanks in advance for your help and feedback.
Good appetite and have a nice day
If those apps depend on Samsung security features...most likely no.
Samsung uses an "e-fuse" (basically a write once registry) that is tripped if modified or custom images are flashed to the device. It doesn't matter whether you simply rooted with Magisk, or flashed TWRP, or flashed a custom ROM - once Knox is tripped, it is permanent and cannot be reversed. Therefore, even if you restore the device to its original factory configuration, Knox will remain tripped and any apps that depend on it will not work.