Gear S3 GPS tracking question (potentially really dumb, sorry) - Samsung Gear S3

I've searched for a while now, and can't find the answer to this really basic question. So here goes...
Is LTE required to track a run? I understand the non-LTE has standalone GPS, but would the non-LTE be able to plot your run without your phone? For example, it would plot it on a "blank map" on the watch while you're running, since obviously you'd need a data signal to draw the map as you run. However, when you get back to you phone, the plotted run would then be drawn over a map...is this possible? I think this is what the non-LTE gear s3 can do, but I wanted a clear answer before I decide which one to buy.
I don't need to make calls and text in standalone, but I DO want to plot a run over a map when I get back to my phone. Hope the question made sense and apologies if this has been addressed. I imagine it has, but for some reason I cannot find this exact question. Thanks.

I have the non-LTE version and track my run using shealth. Once it has a solid lock on GPS, it will plot my run on a simple map without the phone. When it connects to the phone, it will show a more detailed map on both the watch and phone.

gpmg762 said:
I have the non-LTE version and track my run using shealth. Once it has a solid lock on GPS, it will plot my run on a simple map without the phone. When it connects to the phone, it will show a more detailed map on both the watch and phone.
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Does anyone know of a solid method to get that GPS lock without waiting until the shealth countdown finishes and you are already into a couple minutes of a run? Once it has a lock it does well. I have run with my garmin simultaneously and I notice there is a .3 - .4 mile lag because of the GPS lock delay on the S3.

you must wait for the blinking GPS icon in shealth to turn solid (usually takes 15-20 seconds to lock) before starting your run else no location plotting.

Very nice. Thanks everyone. Just bought one.

gpmg762 said:
you must wait for the blinking GPS icon in shealth to turn solid (usually takes 15-20 seconds to lock) before starting your run else no location plotting.
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That's interesting. Are you on 3.0? My watchface looks like this below. I have to click the start button just to see the GPS icon and by then the stop watch is already running before a lock is set.
Congrats, OP, I think you'll like it.

jwrlaw said:
That's interesting. Are you on 3.0? My watchface looks like this below. I have to click the start button just to see the GPS icon and by then the stop watch is already running before a lock is set.
Congrats, OP, I think you'll like it.
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Yup, my Samsung Health version on my watch is 4.1.3600.

For instance you can use run4gear, it's full of features and can sync with runtastic, endomondo, mapmyrun and runkeeper and now it's free.
If you want to know more http://www.run4gear.com

gpmg762 said:
Yup, my Samsung Health version on my watch is 4.1.3600.
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Mad_Teo said:
For instance you can use run4gear, it's full of features and can sync with runtastic, endomondo, mapmyrun and runkeeper and now it's free.
If you want to know more http://www.run4gear.com
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Thanks, guys. I appreciate it.

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[APP][3.0+] Gliderun *OPEN BETA*

Sports activity tracker
* ALPHA * state.
I'm looking forward for people to test and send suggestions.
Track your sports activities capturing
location
cadence
altitude
power
heart rate
speed
bearing
slope
etc...
Plot progress, lap time and other
Set targets and receive feedback while tracking your session
Works in landscape and portrait
Audio rithmic control.
Reproduce your music at modified tempo to match your cadence.
Enable metronome to help with cadence.
Download or import routes.
Routes export to GPX and KML
Google earth route export *Broken*
Check compass and GPS status
Integration of sensors and wearables
Heart rate and other BTLE sensors.
Miband
Ready to integrate more
Google fit integration
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The app will only discover wearables like MiBand if they are not used at the same time by another app like MiFit. You need to close MiFit for the band to be discovered.
In the case of the MiBand when you change the app your band stored data will be wiped. I'm investigating a way to avoid this.
What does it do..?
First message updated a bit
How to connect with mi band? I search for devices but it find nothing
Edit: just figured it out
I have a question. After connected to my miband I tapped on the top left settings icon and I saw in the bottom of the list the option "factory reset". Is it really possible? What are the consequences? In the official app this option doesn't exist
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giorgis91 said:
How to connect with mi band? I search for devices but it find nothing
Edit: just figured it out
I have a question. After connected to my miband I tapped on the top left settings icon and I saw in the bottom of the list the option "factory reset". Is it really possible? What are the consequences? In the official app this option doesn't exist
Sent with my Nexus 5 through time and space
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To connect the MiBand you unpaired it first from the other app havent you?
The Admin section of wearables exposes all kind of operations. Some of them are rather low level and even should be executed on a particular order. I may hide/show all that under a setting to avoid mistakes.
Factory reset just does that. It will wipe all the pairing data.
tincore said:
To connect the MiBand you unpaired it first from the other app havent you?
The Admin section of wearables exposes all kind of operations. Some of them are rather low level and even should be executed on a particular order. I may hide/show all that under a setting to avoid mistakes.
Factory reset just does that. It will wipe all the pairing data.
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Thank you for answering quickly I ask that because lot of people on an Italian forum that I know had many problems with this wereable and I thought that a factory reset could solve them.
Another question: after using you're app I noticed that after reconnecting the mi band to its official app all the data was lost. Is it normal?
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giorgis91 said:
Thank you for answering quickly I ask that because lot of people on an Italian forum that I know had many problems with this wereable and I thought that a factory reset could solve them.
Another question: after using you're app I noticed that after reconnecting the mi band to its official app all the data was lost. Is it normal?
Sent with my Nexus 5 through time and space
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About the data wipe. This is normal the app is setting new user data based on the personal profile.
Same with the alarms. The band, as far as I know, does not have a way to retrieve the current alarm configuration.
Thanks for the app. I think it very promising. I just installed the app from google play, unpaired the band with mi fit app and connected with gliderun. After connection, it stays short time as connected and disconnects after 4-5 seconds. Is there a reason you can tell? I use smartlock app and I am on cm11.
Thanks again.
saltinbas said:
Thanks for the app. I think it very promising. I just installed the app from google play, unpaired the band with mi fit app and connected with gliderun. After connection, it stays short time as connected and disconnects after 4-5 seconds. Is there a reason you can tell? I use smartlock app and I am on cm11.
Thanks again.
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Sorry for not answering before. Is it working better now. There have been a good number of versions.
Hey, tincore. Thank you for making the app compatible with the Mi Band! Since there's a lack of feedback here for you, I'd like to leave you some general issues/thoughts/etc. If you'd like to inquire about any of my comments, or would like logs of anything, please let me know and I'll provide that. If you wouldn't mind just quoting some of my comment so I can get an e-mail notification of your reply, that'd be great!
I'm on Android 4.4.4.
- Initially, I had trouble pairing the Mi Band with the app. I unpaired my band from MiFit, killed MiFit, and attempted pairing to Gliderun. Initially, Gliderun would connect to the band, this is where band's lights light up, and you have to tap the band to 'accept' the pairing; but when you tapped the band nothing happened. However, a minute later the band connected to Gliderun as if I tapped it.
- When I connected to Gliderun, it recognized that I had 6,000 steps, but once I began walking, the app started counting from 0.
- I'm kind of confused about the 'start' function on the Activity tab. Am I supposed to have this enabled? Normally, I just go into MiFit, refresh the page for it to download the data from the band. Can I essentially do this with Gliderun without using this start function?
- On the Activity tab, is there a way to make 'empty' cells completely blank?
- Is there a way to track sleep?
Previously, I had trouble getting my MiBand to reliably stay connected with Gliderun, but now it seems to keep the connection fine. I'll start using this app daily instead and I'll check back here with any updates. Thanks again!
Thanks for the remarks!
After the band is paired once the app tries to find and reconnect to it automatically. I imagine that first time there was a problem with the connection so it connected on the retry . It *should* also syncronize itself every 1-2 hours..
About step count and the start button. Gliderun tries to combine activity and general tracking. When you start a particular activity (by clicking on start) it should count the steps of that activity. When you are not in a activity it should count those steps globally for a daily total.
To activate global tracking you can go to preferences > tracking or tap on some of the inactive dashboard indicators. Without global tracking activated you should still see some totals after syncronization with the band.
You have,at least, two steps counters the band and your phone. Each of them has an absolute step count.
"Sensor step counts" indicator shows the steps of the active step counter so depending on the band being connected or not it may toggle to your phone. I hope this makes sense.
I will add a "Blank" indicator asap.
About sleep. The app should be already tracking your sleep periods. You can see those on Global stats screen. I would like to add the deep sleep phases but I need documentation or advise on what exactly I have to look for in order to provide a faithful solution.
I'm trying now to fix a few issues to move to beta. I hope I can make a video and some captures soon.
adobrakic said:
Hey, tincore. Thank you for making the app compatible with the Mi Band! Since there's a lack of feedback here for you, I'd like to leave you some general issues/thoughts/etc. If you'd like to inquire about any of my comments, or would like logs of anything, please let me know and I'll provide that. If you wouldn't mind just quoting some of my comment so I can get an e-mail notification of your reply, that'd be great!
I'm on Android 4.4.4.
- Initially, I had trouble pairing the Mi Band with the app. I unpaired my band from MiFit, killed MiFit, and attempted pairing to Gliderun. Initially, Gliderun would connect to the band, this is where band's lights light up, and you have to tap the band to 'accept' the pairing; but when you tapped the band nothing happened. However, a minute later the band connected to Gliderun as if I tapped it.
- When I connected to Gliderun, it recognized that I had 6,000 steps, but once I began walking, the app started counting from 0.
- I'm kind of confused about the 'start' function on the Activity tab. Am I supposed to have this enabled? Normally, I just go into MiFit, refresh the page for it to download the data from the band. Can I essentially do this with Gliderun without using this start function?
- On the Activity tab, is there a way to make 'empty' cells completely blank?
- Is there a way to track sleep?
Previously, I had trouble getting my MiBand to reliably stay connected with Gliderun, but now it seems to keep the connection fine. I'll start using this app daily instead and I'll check back here with any updates. Thanks again!
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tincore said:
Thanks for the remarks!
After the band is paired once the app tries to find and reconnect to it automatically. I imagine that first time there was a problem with the connection so it connected on the retry . It *should* also syncronize itself every 1-2 hours..
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Yup! After wanting to view my current steps for today, I just opened up Gliderun, waited a bit, and it connected to my MiBand after a couple of minutes. I have to close Gliderun in the meantime because my phone is relatively old (HTC One S -- 2, 3 years?) so I can't have the app running all the time.
About step count and the start button. Gliderun tries to combine activity and general tracking. When you start a particular activity (by clicking on start) it should count the steps of that activity. When you are not in a activity it should count those steps globally for a daily total.
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Ohh, I see, that makes a lot of sense! I'm a student for the majority of my day and don't really have any separate 'activities', so I didn't see the inherent benefit of activity mode, but that does make sense.
To activate global tracking you can go to preferences > tracking or tap on some of the inactive dashboard indicators. Without global tracking activated you should still see some totals after syncronization with the band.
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Ahh, I apologize about that, I completely neglected this tab. I figured the Activity tab was more important simply because of its location. This actually looks more like how I was hoping the app would function.
About sleep. The app should be already tracking your sleep periods. You can see those on Global stats screen. I would like to add the deep sleep phases but I need documentation or advise on what exactly I have to look for in order to provide a faithful solution.
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Thank you! Again, if there are any logs I can provide that would help, please let me know and I will certainly do so.
--edit--
I'm having an issue where the app doesn't seem to be updating the Global Stats tab. On the Activity tab, my total steps have been counted properly, but when I go to Global Stats, it only shows information from the previous time I synced (about 8 hours ago). I killed the app, re-connected, and re-synced, and the same thing happened.
--edit #2--
After messing around with the Global Stats tab, and switching views (24 hours/day/week), the app resynced on its own (not sure if it was a coincidence or from me switching views), and now the Global Stats tab has updated; but now it has slightly more steps than the Activity tab.
Not a big deal at all, but I figured you'd like to know!
I just found your app. It looks very promising.
Where would you prefer to have me send the feedback.
I understood there was also a Reddit thread somewhere - I could not find it.
Thanks
maishsk said:
I just found your app. It looks very promising.
Where would you prefer to have me send the feedback.
I understood there was also a Reddit thread somewhere - I could not find it.
Thanks
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If you want you can send me an email. If it something more general or open to discussion by other people feel free to post it here.
That Reddit thread is not getting any rythm.
I had a Mi Band and used the MiFit app for the last couple months, but I lost the device. I've ordered a new one and I'm going to start using Gliderun mostly because of the Google Fit integration. While I'm waiting for my package I've been messing around with your app and trying to figure some things out so I'll be ready to go when my new band arrives. Here's some feedback:
The headphone icon opens up the music controls and the audio notifications; music controls/library only works with music stored on the phone, is there any way to integrate this with Google Music? There's only a couple of apps that I've seen do this (specifically GMusicFS), but it would be nice.
On the user screen: for any user input requiring a number (weight, height, goals, etc.) you have a scrolling number which is nice from a UI perspective, but when I have to enter any of these values for the first time, scrolling is very tedious. This is particularly brutal when I'm trying to set up a goal for the first time, I have to scroll all the way from 0 to 8,000. There should be a way to manually input a number using an on-screen keyboard as well. It also looks like the goal is limited to 20,000 steps, theoretically this should be unlimited.
User profile: I have my units set to imperial. When inputting my height for the major intervals you might want to make the height max out at 7-ft just in case. For the minor intervals, you should put the unit next to the number (inches) and I would limit the user to discrete numbers 1 through 12. I'm not sure how you're calculating height, but the way you have it set up it is very hard for a user to input their height in imperial units. For example: I am 6-ft 2-inches, in order to input my height I have to calculate how many hundredths of a foot 2-inches is. So in my case 2/12=.16666. The average person isn't going to do this and is going to give up when you can't just enter 6-ft 2-inches.
The compass UI needs a little work, it isn't quickly evident where north is. I would prefer a more traditional looking compass (maybe something similar to this). Also, for some reason my altitude is always blank.
Synchronize: I have the first three options enabled for Google Fit integration. The app always says disconnected, when I press the synchronize button it changes to connected, but I don't think anything is actually being synced. There should be some sort of progress bar when synchronizing with Google Fit so the user knows it's actually working. In my case I don't think it's working at all. I've enabled the option to download tracked activities from GFit, but nothing ever shows up in the stats.
In the settings, General: I would make an expert section to the settings menu that has to be manually activated and move Optimize track points and Recalculate calories there. Also for any option where you could be deleting or modifying data (everything under the "Other" section) I would have a confirmation dialog box pop up. That way if somebody accidentally presses one of those options they don't completely wipe out all there data.
In the settings, Audio: I would either explain the difference between Audio engine A and B or give the user an option to play example audio. Similar to how you have the option to "Listen to an example" of text-to-speech output in the main android settings.
In the settings, Notification: I think there needs to be a little more configuration for notifications. I really like the way the Notification version of the MiFit app allowed you to set the colors for the LEDs on the Mi Band as well as the number of times it vibrated and the number of times the LED blinked. I know this is a beta version, but I think a little more work needs to be done in this particular area if you want users to switch from the MiFit app. Being able to tell what app I'm getting a notification from just by looking at the band is extremely useful and it's going to make switching hard without it. I don't want to say you should copy the Notification settings screen from the MiFit app, but it has been implemented very well.
Settings: somewhere you need to provide Help information. For most of the options I'm not sure exactly what they're supposed to do, maybe have a ?-button next to the option that the user can press that will pop up a longer description of exactly what the option does.
Any thoughts on providing a dark theme as well? Just something simple where you change the background to black and the text to white, the green color should look good with both a dark and light background.
I saw you have sleep tracking on the list of things to improve upon, really looking forward to that. The MiFit app and Sleep as Android app provide a very clean UI for visualizing your sleep. I would try to implement something similar. I'm sure you've seen it, but this thread might have some hints on how to better pull the sleep data from the MiBand.
I know I wrote a lot, but you have done great work with this app in the short amount of time you've been developing it. I can't wait to see how this app progresses because I think you've got a really good app here. The design looks very good and polished it just needs a few tweaks here and there. Once I get my new Mi Band I'll provide some more feedback.
Keep up the great work. If you want to discuss any of this more I would be more than happy to do so.
Thanks for all that feedback! I add everything to my list. Will tackle the more important stuff first.
About audio.
I may eventually add a fallback into system players. The player provides a rythm guidance for your exercise by adjusting the playback rate to your desired cadence so it is rather specific. it is custom built.
About scrolling. If you tap you do not need to scroll. You can enter the number directly. This is NumberPicker standard. I may have missed one or two fields though.
I will increase the daily goals to something in the ultramarathon range.
About imperial input. You are absolutely right. Will change it soon..
I will see what I can do with the compass. It is all a matter of priorities.
Altitude comes from GPS.
GFit issue is a glitch too. Click sync again. I'm now focusing more on FitnessSyncer as it is much more powerful.
Sleep tracking is working. You can see it on Daily Stats. It may need some tweaking though. The band does not really export sleep data so I had to write the algorithms myself and I've already noticed a couple of issues.
Also the custom notifications is a great idea. I have to fit that into a general API. The app is meant to integrate other bands. Just need to get some samples.
Devo7v said:
I had a Mi Band and used the MiFit app for the last couple months, but I lost the device. I've ordered a new one and I'm going to start using Gliderun mostly because of the Google Fit integration. While I'm waiting for my package I've been messing around with your app and trying to figure some things out so I'll be ready to go when my new band arrives. Here's some feedback:
The headphone icon opens up the music controls and the audio notifications; music controls/library only works with music stored on the phone, is there any way to integrate this with Google Music? There's only a couple of apps that I've seen do this (specifically GMusicFS), but it would be nice.
On the user screen: for any user input requiring a number (weight, height, goals, etc.) you have a scrolling number which is nice from a UI perspective, but when I have to enter any of these values for the first time, scrolling is very tedious. This is particularly brutal when I'm trying to set up a goal for the first time, I have to scroll all the way from 0 to 8,000. There should be a way to manually input a number using an on-screen keyboard as well. It also looks like the goal is limited to 20,000 steps, theoretically this should be unlimited.
User profile: I have my units set to imperial. When inputting my height for the major intervals you might want to make the height max out at 7-ft just in case. For the minor intervals, you should put the unit next to the number (inches) and I would limit the user to discrete numbers 1 through 12. I'm not sure how you're calculating height, but the way you have it set up it is very hard for a user to input their height in imperial units. For example: I am 6-ft 2-inches, in order to input my height I have to calculate how many hundredths of a foot 2-inches is. So in my case 2/12=.16666. The average person isn't going to do this and is going to give up when you can't just enter 6-ft 2-inches.
The compass UI needs a little work, it isn't quickly evident where north is. I would prefer a more traditional looking compass (maybe something similar to this). Also, for some reason my altitude is always blank.
Synchronize: I have the first three options enabled for Google Fit integration. The app always says disconnected, when I press the synchronize button it changes to connected, but I don't think anything is actually being synced. There should be some sort of progress bar when synchronizing with Google Fit so the user knows it's actually working. In my case I don't think it's working at all. I've enabled the option to download tracked activities from GFit, but nothing ever shows up in the stats.
In the settings, General: I would make an expert section to the settings menu that has to be manually activated and move Optimize track points and Recalculate calories there. Also for any option where you could be deleting or modifying data (everything under the "Other" section) I would have a confirmation dialog box pop up. That way if somebody accidentally presses one of those options they don't completely wipe out all there data.
In the settings, Audio: I would either explain the difference between Audio engine A and B or give the user an option to play example audio. Similar to how you have the option to "Listen to an example" of text-to-speech output in the main android settings.
In the settings, Notification: I think there needs to be a little more configuration for notifications. I really like the way the Notification version of the MiFit app allowed you to set the colors for the LEDs on the Mi Band as well as the number of times it vibrated and the number of times the LED blinked. I know this is a beta version, but I think a little more work needs to be done in this particular area if you want users to switch from the MiFit app. Being able to tell what app I'm getting a notification from just by looking at the band is extremely useful and it's going to make switching hard without it. I don't want to say you should copy the Notification settings screen from the MiFit app, but it has been implemented very well.
Settings: somewhere you need to provide Help information. For most of the options I'm not sure exactly what they're supposed to do, maybe have a ?-button next to the option that the user can press that will pop up a longer description of exactly what the option does.
Any thoughts on providing a dark theme as well? Just something simple where you change the background to black and the text to white, the green color should look good with both a dark and light background.
I saw you have sleep tracking on the list of things to improve upon, really looking forward to that. The MiFit app and Sleep as Android app provide a very clean UI for visualizing your sleep. I would try to implement something similar. I'm sure you've seen it, but this thread might have some hints on how to better pull the sleep data from the MiBand.
I know I wrote a lot, but you have done great work with this app in the short amount of time you've been developing it. I can't wait to see how this app progresses because I think you've got a really good app here. The design looks very good and polished it just needs a few tweaks here and there. Once I get my new Mi Band I'll provide some more feedback.
Keep up the great work. If you want to discuss any of this more I would be more than happy to do so.
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Thanks for reading through my comments:
tincore said:
About audio.
I may eventually add a fallback into system players. The player provides a rythm guidance for your exercise by adjusting the playback rate to your desired cadence so it is rather specific. it is custom built.
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The current implementation is good, it was more of a wish list item.
tincore said:
About scrolling. If you tap you do not need to scroll. You can enter the number directly. This is NumberPicker standard. I may have missed one or two fields though.
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You're right I don't know how I missed that, apparently I've been using Android wrong this whole time.
tincore said:
I will increase the daily goals to something in the ultramarathon range.
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I honestly would remove scrolling completely from the goals and just leave it as user input. I don't know if scrolling is very useful when we're talking about differences in thousands of steps.
tincore said:
About imperial input. You are absolutely right. Will change it soon..
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Thanks
tincore said:
I will see what I can do with the compass. It is all a matter of priorities.
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I don't see this as a priority, it was just a suggestion. Feel free to put this at the bottom of your list.
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Altitude comes from GPS.
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Apparently I was just in a bad location at the time. However it is reporting a different altitude than GPS Test. Gliderun shows me at an altitude of 119ft whereas GPS Test shows me at an altitude of 233 ft so I'm not sure what is going on. Is there some sort of log I can provide?
tincore said:
GFit issue is a glitch too. Click sync again. I'm now focusing more on FitnessSyncer as it is much more powerful.
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I don't personally use FitnessSyncer, but I'm sure there are a lot of people who do. Looking forward to GFit integration. One quick question: once GFit is fully integrated, will I be able to sync all the data I collect with Gliderun or is there a limit on how far back I can go? Likewise will I be able to import all of my past GFit data into Gliderun?
tincore said:
Sleep tracking is working. You can see it on Daily Stats. It may need some tweaking though. The band does not really export sleep data so I had to write the algorithms myself and I've already noticed a couple of issues.
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As I mentioned, I don't have my new Mi Band yet so I can't test sleep tracking yet. When I get it, I'll give you some more detailed thoughts on it.
tincore said:
Also the custom notifications is a great idea. I have to fit that into a general API. The app is meant to integrate other bands. Just need to get some samples.
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The detailed control over notifications is the one thing I'm going to miss the most from the MiFit app. Hopefully it's not too much trouble to add these controls. The only thing I can think of to figure out how to add these controls would be to decompile the Notification version of the MiFit app or see if the api calls on this website are useful.
The more we talk and the more I mess around with the app the more I'm liking it.
Thanks again for all the valuable input!
Devo7v said:
Thanks for reading through my comments:
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You are not the first one having trouble with the NumberPickers. I think they are not very well designed. I do not find the field edition intuitive either. Most of the time I forget to click accept so I lose the edition. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Devo7v said:
I honestly would remove scrolling completely from the goals and just leave it as user input. I don't know if scrolling is very useful when we're talking about differences in thousands of steps.
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Yes. The plan is at least to space them in 100 or 250 units
Devo7v said:
Apparently I was just in a bad location at the time. However it is reporting a different altitude than GPS Test. Gliderun shows me at an altitude of 119ft whereas GPS Test shows me at an altitude of 233 ft so I'm not sure what is going on. Is there some sort of log I can provide?
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At the moment I'm just showing the Altitude reported by GPS and I think that it has to be corrected by a complex calculation that can be retrieved from a webservice. That may be the issue.
Devo7v said:
I don't personally use FitnessSyncer, but I'm sure there are a lot of people who do. Looking forward to GFit integration. One quick question: once GFit is fully integrated, will I be able to sync all the data I collect with Gliderun or is there a limit on how far back I can go? Likewise will I be able to import all of my past GFit data into Gliderun?
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Last time I tried it I could upload and download all gliderun data. I found GFit rather odd. Up to now it is unclear to me when it really uploads the data to the servers making it is visible from the web or other device. Also you do not retrieve exactly what you save.
Devo7v said:
As I mentioned, I don't have my new Mi Band yet so I can't test sleep tracking yet. When I get it, I'll give you some more detailed thoughts on it.
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Sleep periods seem rather accurate. Still I have to do something to detect short sleep interruptions. Phases analysis is there too although I think that it has to be taken with a pich of salt. (Not only in this app)
Devo7v said:
The detailed control over notifications is the one thing I'm going to miss the most from the MiFit app. Hopefully it's not too much trouble to add these controls. The only thing I can think of to figure out how to add these controls would be to
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It is no real trouble. I will add that rather soon (I hope)..
Hey Tincore
I think you have done some really great work on the app .. but when I tried to use it yesterday I got a bit confused (maybe you can help me out here).
I couldn't actually see where my step count was being shown. I was assuming it would be on the activity screen but it just didn't seem to update. Is there a way to force a refresh of the count? The only time the app seemed to update was when I reconnected my miband.
The update to fitnesssyncer worked well .. is there anyway to have it automatically sync (either time period or when you open the app possibly)?
I found a spelling mistake as well Where you add your weight and waist, chest, hip sizes there is a "thight" measurement (im guessing its meant to be thigh).
Thanks for your hard work!

How do you toggle between current app and watch display etc?

Loving my Gear S3 Frontier but still a bit confused about using it on occassions! Can anyone tell me is there a simple way to:
1. Keep an app you are currently using on the display?
For example, while walk around the supermarket, I was using the excellent "My Notes in Gear" to work through a shopping list I'd created previously. Problem was that when the watch display turned off if I raised my wrist up to look at the screen it frequently had reverted to the watch display. Only way i could get it back to my shopping list was to select the apps view and tap on the "My Notes in Gear" app again. Surely I must be doing something wrong and there's an easier way to resume the view of an app you are currently using?
2. Easily toggle between watchface (time) display and current other app in use?
Say I'm tracking a hike in S Health but I want to check the current time. Is there an easy way to toggle from S-Health to the watchface, and then quickly switch back to S-Health tracking again?
Having had the watch a couple of weeks now I'm sure I should have a handle on these things by now, so maybe I'm just being dumb - or maybe these things are not as easy to do as they should be?!
Really, NOBODY has a solution to this??!!
SirBindy said:
It's not rocket science.
Set your double-tap home button to "last app".
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Thanks for the tip. OK, maybe it's not rocket science but to me it seems very strange that there's is not a standard quick way to click back to a current open app. After all, on your mobile phone it's very easy.
And is there any easy/quick way to toggle between watchface (time) display and current other app in use, as when I just want to quickly check the time? Yes, I realise now I can optionally set my double-tap on the home button to view current app, but what if you prefer to set that to normally open another app like S-Health or S-Voice? Sorry, but I really think this is an aspect of typical use of a smartwatch that the designers have not fully thought through. Surely the ability to easily switch between your watchface and another app you are running should be a standard and quick operation?!
I'm having the same issue. And yes, I've set the home button to revert to my previous apps. I'd prefer, however, to raise my wrist and have the app that I was currently using still be there. For example, whenever I'm out on a run and I'm listening to music, I have to double press the home button, and select the application in order to begin toggling to the next sound track. Similar situation happens when I'm using the notes app. Does anyone know of a way to "lock" the current app so that it doesn't go away when I put my hand down?
Worked in the previous Gear 1&2&S. There are a setting for movement activation : Last screen or Clock. Very usefull, do not know why Samsung removed this setting in the Gear S2/S3 ???
It does this on Galaxy Gear too.
It makes much more sense the app you're using is just there, no need to press any button :-/
Thanks for the double tap tip.

Exercise app turns off early

I'm having an intermittent issue (1 in 20 times) whereby the exercise app I use just turns off before I'm done. I've used the same app for years without issue, but notice its on Mate-9 or Android-7 as an issue? Any suggestions please? I've tried other apps and same has happened on this device so I'm thinking not an app issue.
I am having the same issue with some gaming apps
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OK, now its happened 3 times in a row. Anyone know a solution please?
palatkik said:
OK, now its happened 3 times in a row. Anyone know a solution please?
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It could happen when you're using old-api application and internal task-killer preferred to unload your app from memory.
Press square button to get recent apps and press icon with lock to hold app always in memory.
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It could happen when you're using old-api application and internal task-killer preferred to unload your app from memory.
Press square button to get recent apps and press icon with lock to hold app always in memory.
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Thanks for that idea. I tried it and so far so good. I will continue this method for next few weeks to see if it solves the problem 100%.
palatkik said:
Thanks for that idea. I tried it and so far so good. I will continue this method for next few weeks to see if it solves the problem 100%.
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It could happen when you're using old-api application and internal task-killer preferred to unload your app from memory.
Press square button to get recent apps and press icon with lock to hold app always in memory.
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No luck I'm afraid. I tried three times successfully using this method then the forth time it was back to the usual rubbish result of app stopping early during the exercise with the lock to hold app in lock position.
I'm open to other ideas please? As it stands the Mate-9 has proved useless to monitor fitness routines. I've written to Huawei support about it (in London UK) and they just say to wait for an o/s update in future!
I suggest you to give up on it. Huawei phones can't work correctly with sports tracking app for YEARS. Probably all their phones have same issues. Just google it and you will find other suckers like us.
Also, Mate 9 is completely inaccurate during the time it tracks (pre-crash). It must be related with different problem - GPS sucks too. Look for GPS thread in this forum to keep you updated.
Last version of Strava app shows in-app alert which says that their app can't work correctly with my device (Mate 9). It still allows me to use it. So, they gave up on us.
My suggestion is to get some old/backup phone and use it for tracking. E.g. I'm using my good old faithful Samsung Galaxy S4.
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I suggest you to give up on it. Huawei phones can't work correctly with sports tracking app for YEARS. Probably all their phones have same issues. Just google it and you will find other suckers like us.
Also, Mate 9 is completely inaccurate during the time it tracks (pre-crash). It must be related with different problem - GPS sucks too. Look for GPS thread in this forum to keep you updated.
Last version of Strava app shows in-app alert which says that their app can't work correctly with my device (Mate 9). It still allows me to use it. So, they gave up on us.
My suggestion is to get some old/backup phone and use it for tracking. E.g. I'm using my good old faithful Samsung Galaxy S4.
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This phone is looking worse and worse every day I wonder if it will support at least MiFit and Mi Band fitness tracker? Can't crash there, right?!
Anyone found a solution to this yet please? On my Mate-9 - now build B189 the problem seems to be that my exercise app using GPS stops working anytime after about 70 minutes of exercise (I cycle outdoors). If I interact with the app during exercise (such as pause - resume) every hour I can continue recording the exercise for full duration, otherwise after around 70 minutes my apps stop without notice. On other devices same apps work. Seems to be an issue with my Mate-9, anyone else notice this and or fix it?
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Anyone found a solution to this yet please? On my Mate-9 - now build B189
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Since Huawei updated me to Android 8 the problem no longer exists. Its taken a year to get to love this phone. I still cannot get myself to like the Mate-10 so will stay with this as I now for the first time since owning the Mate-9 have no issues at all with it.
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Since Huawei updated me to Android 8 the problem no longer exists. Its taken a year to get to love this phone. I still cannot get myself to like the Mate-10 so will stay with this as I now for the first time since owning the Mate-9 have no issues at all with it.
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Nope, problem is not fixed in Oreo. At least with Strava. It still crashes during longer pauses.
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Nope, problem is not fixed in Oreo. At least with Strava. It still crashes during longer pauses.
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I use a bike computer but was having issues with Strava live tracking, I think I have it resolved but not totally sure.
For some bizarre reason there are two places to exclude apps from power management:
Settings/Apps & notifications/Apps/Settings/Special access/Exempt from battery optimization/*Drop Down* All apps/*Allow/Don't Allow*
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Settings/Battery/Launch/*Toggle On/Off*
Mate 9: 567/360

[App][Alpha] PX5 Media Controller

Hi there,
As you might have read on the PX5 board threads, I was struggling with the ease of use of the stock FM Radio app when driving. If you don't have to SWC you first have to press home from navigating, and open the radio app, or use the widgets, to switch channels. I didn't like that like, so I started to inspect the radio and radio widget .apk files. In there I found some pieces of code that remotely allow to control the FM Radio app.
What my app does is 'listen' to the information the stock FM Radio app is outputting. It can get the current frequency and channel. It shows this information on a notification on your HU. This notification also consists of three buttons to go to the previous channel, the next channel, and turn of the radio.
The current frequency and channel are also pushed to the Android Media Session with media button support. This means other apps (like AnyAutoAudio) or widgets can display the currently playing frequency and channel. You can also control the radio with the media buttons Android support. USB keyboards or BT devices that support these buttons should work! I haven't tested it, but this also means the FM Radio can be used in Android Auto. As soon as you open another media app (like Poweramp), that app will take over the media buttons (as expected). If you want to switch back to FM just press the power button on the notification and you're back.
This app is at an early stage right now. I'd like to see it as a proof of concept. It currently only works with FM. It can't show AM information yet. I am not an Android developer, so it might contain a few bugs and glitches. Let me know if you find anything.
I made a little video a few days ago when I had my first proof of concept working. This video does not display the media button support. Watch it here: https://youtu.be/JNUAi0KNGmM
Let me know what you think! Ideas and suggestions are always welcome.
Download: https://gerbenbol.com/android/com.gerbenbol.hctradiocontroller.apk
So I gave this ago, it seems like it's nearly there for Android Auto. AnyAndroidAuto does pick it up and displays what station is on but AndroidAutos next/pause/previous buttons do not effect it. Also if I change radio station the widget in AndroidAuto does not update to reflect this. Any idea why this is?
That's too bad.
Does the info in the notification change when you switch channel? The media session which feeds info widgets etc. seem to be a bit flaky right now.
Do you have any other media widgets that show the current playing media?
edit: @Dec64, gave it a try this morning. My widgets didn't make it control, or had the latest station displayed, but the native Android media buttons worked fine. Very strange... Do you happen to know what commands AnyAndroidAuto send? It should work for the next/previous/pause buttons. I'll see if I can make some changes today.
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That's too bad.
Does the info in the notification change when you switch channel? The media session which feeds info widgets etc. seem to be a bit flaky right now.
Do you have any other media widgets that show the current playing media?
edit: @Dec64, gave it a try this morning. My widgets didn't make it control, or had the latest station displayed, but the native Android media buttons worked fine. Very strange... Do you happen to know what commands AnyAndroidAuto send? It should work for the next/previous/pause buttons. I'll see if I can make some changes today.
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Yeah the info in the notification changed, and worked perfectly just didn't feed that information down to AA. I had no other media widgets at that time.
No unfortunately I don't know what commands are sent. What is weirder still is this morning on my way to work, after about 20mins the HU turned off the radio and changed menus in AA to the music menu and said nothing is playing...Yet i touched nothing. I put the radio back on and after 5mins it turned back off and I was sent to the phone menu. The only thing new running was your widget, very odd, I dont know how that is even possible.
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Yeah the info in the notification changed, and worked perfectly just didn't feed that information down to AA. I had no other media widgets at that time.
No unfortunately I don't know what commands are sent. What is weirder still is this morning on my way to work, after about 20mins the HU turned off the radio and changed menus in AA to the music menu and said nothing is playing...Yet i touched nothing. I put the radio back on and after 5mins it turned back off and I was sent to the phone menu. The only thing new running was your widget, very odd, I dont know how that is even possible.
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Weird! I've rewritten a load of code, and it should be more stable now. I'm testing on an Android Emulator and and simulate some information the FM Radio would send, so I hope it's better now!
You can download the .apk again from the same URL in the first post. Let me know how it works on the HU. I'm gonna test it when I get home tonight.
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Weird! I've rewritten a load of code, and it should be more stable now. I'm testing on an Android Emulator and and simulate some information the FM Radio would send, so I hope it's better now!
You can download the .apk again from the same URL in the first post. Let me know how it works on the HU. I'm gonna test it when I get home tonight.
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Sweet, ill give it ago in 30mins on the way back from work.
@Bose321 Perfect, works 100% better now, reports, shows station changes when I use SWC to do so, shows a stop button now though instead of pause/next track on the AA widget, and the stop button does nothing, but for AA integration it works
this is encouraging.
can you help me with something mate:
i need to turn radio on/off via tasker.. do you think there is a way to do that.. i saw you do that via your app
Nomader0 said:
this is encouraging.
can you help me with something mate:
i need to turn radio on/off via tasker.. do you think there is a way to do that.. i saw you do that via your app
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You can user tasker or f1x's mtcdtools to do that, there's an intent to close the radio app.
intent action: com.microntek.finish
intent parameters: {"class":"com.microntek.radio"}
Dec64 said:
Sweet, ill give it ago in 30mins on the way back from work.
@Bose321 Perfect, works 100% better now, reports, shows station changes when I use SWC to do so, shows a stop button now though instead of pause/next track on the AA widget, and the stop button does nothing, but for AA integration it works
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Can you show the AA interface? Not sure why there only is a stop button now, and why it doesn't work. I'll have to dig around in the code to see what causes that.
edit: I think I already know why there only is a stop button right now! Gonna push out a fix tomorrow! I also think why the stop button doesn't work. I only listen to the pause/play button, not the stop button. Thanks for testing, this is useful!
Nomader0 said:
this is encouraging.
can you help me with something mate:
i need to turn radio on/off via tasker.. do you think there is a way to do that.. i saw you do that via your app
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I use the intent "hct.radio.power.switch" to turn the radio on or off. This is different from the intent Dec64 posted. Mine only turns off the radio, it doesn't shut down the radio app. So use what fits the most.
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Can you show the AA interface? Not sure why there only is a stop button now, and why it doesn't work. I'll have to dig around in the code to see what causes that.
edit: I think I already know why there only is a stop button right now! Gonna push out a fix tomorrow! I also think why the stop button doesn't work. I only listen to the pause/play button, not the stop button. Thanks for testing, this is useful!
I use the intent "hct.radio.power.switch" to turn the radio on or off. This is different from the intent Dec64 posted. Mine only turns off the radio, it doesn't shut down the radio app. So use what fits the most.
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Thanks for your answers..
Which intent turns on the radio?
Maybe Com.microntek.radio.power?
Nomader0 said:
Thanks for your answers..
Which intent turns on the radio?
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I use the same one. It's a toggle. Send it once to turn it off, send it again to turn it back on.
Bose321 said:
I use the same one. It's a toggle. Send it once to turn it off, send it again to turn it back on.
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Thanks mate I will try that.
Dec64 said:
Sweet, ill give it ago in 30mins on the way back from work.
@Bose321 Perfect, works 100% better now, reports, shows station changes when I use SWC to do so, shows a stop button now though instead of pause/next track on the AA widget, and the stop button does nothing, but for AA integration it works
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Can you give it another try? I've updated the link in the first post again. Should now show next/previous/play-pause buttons if I'm right!
Tried the version of yesterday in my car, and it works a lot better for sure!
Are you liking Android Auto on the HU? Is it fast? I'm hoping Sygic is able to build the navigation for AA soon, I don't like Google Maps for offline navigation. Are you always connected via your phone or something, or have you downloaded parts of maps?
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Can you give it another try? I've updated the link in the first post again. Should now show next/previous/play-pause buttons if I'm right!
Tried the version of yesterday in my car, and it works a lot better for sure!
Are you liking Android Auto on the HU? Is it fast? I'm hoping Sygic is able to build the navigation for AA soon, I don't like Google Maps for offline navigation. Are you always connected via your phone or something, or have you downloaded parts of maps?
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I will try it on the way home from work again.
I like AA on my HU because it displays the info i need quickly and at all times, but the major draw backs where the radio not showing, and the phone menu not working properly.
I dislike google maps and prefer waze for the police/speed camera warnings as i drive a bit...spirited...but waze integration isn't working yet unless you have an AA specific HU. It also doesnt display speed limits/cameras.
Yeah I have 30gb of tethering on my phone so always connected using tasker to start tethering when BT is connected
tried updated app. Next/previous/stop now show on widget but do not work in AA, everything else works perfectly
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tried updated app. Next/previous/stop now show on widget but do not work in AA, everything else works perfectly
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Weird! I'll see if I can get AA on a device to test this. At least the right buttons are now showing. It's a start... :laugh:
Seems to be different from other widgets, because the ones I use seem to work fine (Ubiquity Music Widget).
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tried updated app. Next/previous/stop now show on widget but do not work in AA, everything else works perfectly
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same issue just tested today...
aarick said:
same issue just tested today...
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Thanks for testing. I'll have to look into that. Can you try the native media buttons?
Just turned rds on my radio and noticed the widget doesn't pick station name or rds info. It would be amazing if it could and report that info?
Dec64 said:
Just turned rds on my radio and noticed the widget doesn't pick station name or rds info. It would be amazing if it could and report that info?
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I've been looking into that, but I believe the radio app doesn't 'share' that information. But I'll have another look.
But first gotta look into the AA issue.
What I did notice on my own HU, as soon as the Radio app starts, the sound goes on, and directly off again at boot. Did any of you notice that?

New Features coming with Tizen version 3.0

https://www.sammobile.com/2017/10/21/5-reasons-why-tizen-3-0-for-samsungs-smartwatches-rocks/
"With Tizen 3.0, you can turn off the bezel wake function to prevent the ring from waking up the screen." ?
Watch only mode.
I would be very interested to know how accurate the S3 would be in watch only mode.
Presumably, in watch only mode, the device would have no phone or network connection so would not be able to auto-update itself?
I thought the interval setting (e.g. Permanent) for pulse measurement is also included in Tizen 3? At least on Gear Sport and Fit2 Pro it's included.
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I would be very interested to know how accurate the S3 would be in watch only mode.
Presumably, in watch only mode, the device would have no phone or network connection so would not be able to auto-update itself?
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I don't understand what new functionally the watch only mode brings. The S3 can be put in airplane mode. This turns off cellular, WiFi, and BT, thus making the watch an island unto itself. It's not completely dumb, apps not requiring connectivity still work (ie. stopwatch, HR monitor, calendar, S Pay) and previously inputted data is still available. In this mode, the battery will last for several days. The biggest drain will be the watch face.
BTW, auto updates can be turned off. It's a setting in the Gear Manager app.
we are still waiting tizen 3
IMHO we have to wait longer...
Not expect too "soon".
If we have luck then maybe as Xmas "gift" in late December.
Best Regards
I'm not launching nuclear missles or solving the national debt so most of the upgrades don't impact me. Mine does what I want it to do now and I'm afraid an "improvement" will screw up a good thing. A new OS is a risk just to get rid of the little clock on the top when I'm in Standalone.
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I don't understand what new functionally the watch only mode brings. The S3 can be put in airplane mode. This turns off cellular, WiFi, and BT, thus making the watch an island unto itself. It's not completely dumb, apps not requiring connectivity still work (ie. stopwatch, HR monitor, calendar, S Pay) and previously inputted data is still available. In this mode, the battery will last for several days. The biggest drain will be the watch face.
BTW, auto updates can be turned off. It's a setting in the Gear Manager app.
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In watch only mode, the watch can last for several weeks, not just several days.
unfortunately they forgot to mention a terrible new feature: notifications are instantly dismissed by the sleep gesture.
the watch has a "wake up" gesture which wakes the screen when you turn your wrist to look at it, but enabling it would already force the inverse on you as well.
turning your watch away from your face(or towards you while not in an upright standing position, which is why it's such a failure) will make it go back to sleep.
this was annoying enough before version 3, but now this will also dismiss notification pop-ups.
this means the watch now frequently keeps marking new notifications as read and dismissing them before I even get a chance to read them.
so I receive a notification, I turn my wrist to look at it, and I'm presented with my watchface with no notification or unread-marker.
so now whenever I receive a notification I have to rotate the bezel or swipe into the notification history to see the notification, when I should just be able to see it instantly.
I was under the 2.3.2.4 version. I am to go under the 2.3.2.3 version and the miracle the update 3.0.0.1 came fast in case for information
Not yet rollout to my s3. Just curious If the whatsapp notification issue is fixed or not.
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Not yet rollout to my s3. Just curious If the whatsapp notification issue is fixed or not.
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If you mean reading last messages...
No, it's not fixed.
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UA Record issue with Tizen 3
It also broke UA Record app. After update UA started, pause button worked (used for my rest between set of exercises performed in gym) but when I tried to use Resume button - application stopped and I had back again my watchface. No exercises recorded. So I decided to reinstall app and what? App is freeezing on it's start screen and after few minutes I have ma watchface back again. Till now it was the only app used by my so often and now it's a sh...t. Does anytime Samsung have to spoil good working things?
Update. Wow. today is working. However another issue - I tried to add new widget in a Quick panel and what? I have message "Installing ... " since two hours and nothing more
watch is lagging after 3.0.0.1 update, any fix coming
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If you mean reading last messages...
No, it's not fixed.
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Sad... thanks!
Maik268 said:
If you mean reading last messages...
No, it's not fixed.
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Why are they so ignorant about this issue? Havent any of the engineers at samsung tried to actually use this watch on daily life?! I am so bored of using another app to fix samsung's fault

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