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i moved from windows mobile to android just about a month ago, and to be honest android is substantially better in every way possible, been loving it
now the only thing that has really bothered me is that the default email app from android is a piece of crap... unless you use gmail of course because gmail only has labels and it flushes all your email to a single folder.
i use hotmail and i receive many emails so i do need to use the folders, and i have to have them organized as such in my phone. windows mobile used arcsoft to organize the folders, and it worked great, but i haven't found a similar alternative on android or the market, does anyone know of one?
i even have an iTouch and there is an application in the iOS market that will arrange your emails into folders like they are found in my e-mail...
any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks guys!
X-Kenshin-X said:
i moved from windows mobile to android just about a month ago, and to be honest android is substantially better in every way possible, been loving it
now the only thing that has really bothered me is that the default email app from android is a piece of crap... unless you use gmail of course because gmail only has labels and it flushes all your email to a single folder.
i use hotmail and i receive many emails so i do need to use the folders, and i have to have them organized as such in my phone. windows mobile used arcsoft to organize the folders, and it worked great, but i haven't found a similar alternative on android or the market, does anyone know of one?
i even have an iTouch and there is an application in the iOS market that will arrange your emails into folders like they are found in my e-mail...
any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks guys!
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Android email does use folders. It is up to the email provider to provide the folders by the protocols they use. To get folders you must use IMAP email protocol. I believe most have it but I do know hotmail does not have it. They used to when you paid for the yearly service but they no longer support it. You can only do hotmail by POP.
Oh forgot to add when you are in your email if you go to menu it will have the folders option to select
dude 2 words:
K9 mail
its miles better than the stock crap
revlis240 said:
dude 2 words:
K9 mail
its miles better than the stock crap
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QFT.................
i have used it. K9 also flushes all my email into a single folder, there is no way of selecting other folders...
why is there no such app? it's such a simple task.
X-Kenshin-X said:
i have used it. K9 also flushes all my email into a single folder, there is no way of selecting other folders...
why is there no such app? it's such a simple task.
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k9 does it, just not by default, you gotta mess with the settings...i dont have it installed right now but you need to change some folder view to none in account settings....it will be on inbox by default. when you change it to none all your imap folders will show up.
sorry i dont know the exact setting
K9 definitely does ALL my gmail folders and my other imap folders as well. you have to learn their folder structure and then its easy. There is a tutorial on their site i think. Its called folder classes, you chose what class to designate the folder, and then you chose general class display and sync settings.
What does QFT mean? edit> QUOTED FOR TRUTH ...nice thats a new one to me! lol
gmail doesn't have folders...
and what do you mean by class? will it filter all messages and put them on a folder due to keywords or something like that?
gmail has labels = folders
download k9 mail and explore its display/sync structure and itll make sense. If you want to filter by keyword then you need to set that up in gmail, not your mail client on the phone.
For example, I have a filter that filters everything with the word craigslist in it and puts it in a label called Craigslist. Then on the phone, if I see that folder/label in k9.
Not to sound rude, but ditch hotmail. its a terrible email service. The whole point of android is to embrace google/gmail!
gmail's labels -do not- = folders
why? because labels filter email's by keywords.
on email clients that support folders, you can grab a bunch of different emails from many different places and put them into one folder because they have a common trait for you that a single keyword could not narrow down.
also if you have folders you can forward all mail from a certain domain to that folder...
anyways the list goes on. i knew someone would say that, if i could replace my hotmail with a gmail i would, but for reasons beyond this thread that is not an intelligent thing to do for me, i have a lot of business, and accounts linked to that email, and that is impossible.
i also have 2 separate gmail accounts that i use for other things. i know gmail is better as far as speed, but defenetly not for organization. teens might be ok with labels, but professional people need folders. and anyways hotmail is no longer a slow email client like it was 4 years ago, it's actually very fast now.
ok so now back to k-9... ok so you're saying that k9 doesn't actually have the ability to create folders?? because you just said that i have to set up the labels on my gmail?? so then that means i can't create folders?
wow... if only microsoft wheren't such sour grapes, they should create a windows mobile app for droid...
X-Kenshin-X said:
why? because labels filter email's by keywords.
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No, not JUST by keywords, they can filter by recipient, sender, keyword, subject, message, with/without attachment or even lack of words
X-Kenshin-X said:
on email clients that support folders, you can grab a bunch of different emails from many different places and put them into one folder because they have a common trait for you that a single keyword could not narrow down.
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And in gmail you can check off which ever item you want from ANYWHERE and press move to> label "x" how is that any different than dragging items in outlook into a folder?
X-Kenshin-X said:
also if you have folders you can forward all mail from a certain domain to that folder...
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I do this with 2 of my private domains., because you can filter my recipient, or sender. My private domains have their own labels within gmail.
Not to sound like a mean guy, but I am not a teenager. I have 2 businesses that I run/live off of email and if I can make the switch from outlook to Gmail, I have no idea what great argument you can provide that would be valid. EVERYTHING outlook did, gmail does, albeit slightly differently...
my argument is that i need to use THAT email account and no other, like i said, if that was an option i would've switched 5 years ago, so stop arguing BS.
i need a sort of hotmail imap support app, or something... because i read that imap will preconfigure your folders for your email client app.
http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/wiki/WorkingWithClasses
It synchronizes notes, tasks, contacts, and calendar with Microsoft Outlook 2007 or greater (for Android 2.2 or greater) and also files and directories via WiFi.
Android market link
Android application consists of:
Notes application
Tasks application
Application for managing categories
Task widget 4x1
Task widget 2x2
Sync facilities and configuration screens
This software development is now forked in 2 versions - 2.x and 3.x. 3.x version (tablets) has modified UI - holographic theme. It is multi apk, so correct version is automatically downloaded from Android Market.
This application is real freeware - i.e. is free of charge and without advertising.
Send me please as private message what device and what ROM are you using and if it works or not, I will update list here, thanks.
Some screens
Would somebody be willing to test gingerbread calendar synchronizaton, I looked at source code and it looks the same but I would like to test that it is working correctly.
Is Outlook required?
Yes, Outlook 2007 or 2010.
Moved it to market.
OndrejP said:
Moved it to market.
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Sorry, where?
cz.psencik.simple
Q: is there a Due Today fildter (overdue + due today)?
A: Will do
Q: Can I filter by category?
A: No, maybe will do.
Q: Can I sync calendar in a specific date frame only (now it syncs all calendar items) ?
A: No
Q: Can I not sync completed tasks?
A: No, similar features were present millions years ago when devices had limited memory, I want to have everything in phone. You can move those tasks to different folder/archive in Outlook now.
Q: Contacts don't show after sync.
A: What phone, you must enable Local Sync account in Contacts application (open Contacts, Menu, Display options, check Local Sync All Contacts) - btw it is described in "manual"
Could this thread be moved to different forum where new users can post?
OndrejP said:
Q: is there a Due Today fildter (overdue + due today)?
A: Will do
Q: Can I filter by category?
A: No, maybe will do.
Q: Can I sync calendar in a specific date frame only (now it syncs all calendar items) ?
A: No
Q: Can I not sync completed tasks?
A: No, similar features were present millions years ago when devices had limited memory, I want to have everything in phone. You can move those tasks to different folder/archive in Outlook now.
Q: Contacts don't show after sync.
A: What phone, you must enable Local Sync account in Contacts application (open Contacts, Menu, Display options, check Local Sync All Contacts) - btw it is described in "manual"
Could this thread be moved to different forum where new users can post?
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Hi Ondřej,
Thanks a lot for your answers. This really helped. Also do you think it may be a good enhancement if the app can sort tasks by two fields? (for example by Due Date and then by Priority)
Thanks,
Sergey
Demeurg said:
Also do you think it may be a good enhancement if the app can sort tasks by two fields? (for example by Due Date and then by Priority)
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Hi Sergey, I think it may be a good enhancement. Will do it likely.
great,i love it ! does it have italian language ?
i also loved it! =)
thanks,
unfortunatelly I do not speak Italian, so there is no Italian language. I can post language files somewhere and you can translate it for yourself.
I relased update with some of Sergey's requirements.
Wow!!
I regret I haven't found it before - testing it right now and it looks really very impressive.
I also have installed AutoSync Account Activator.
I'll be syncing Calendar and Contacts via corporate push through Email.apk (with fixed 60mA drain in no-data/flight mode) - but was missing Notes.
And it's convenient to have your Simple Note and Task apps - both are cool!
In short, your solution deserves much more publicity!! Everything seems to work OK, but some questions for explanation:
* the PC Local Sync app - does it have to be running? or is it just to provide info. Pressing X seems to kill it, but the process seem to remain active.
* BTW, I see more than 1 LocalSync.exe process, is this correct? or is it due to running again PC Local Sync after closing it with X?
* the pairing is defined by IP number. what happens if my notebook is automatically assigned another IP number on next boot - do I have to adjust the address manually? will the app know it is actually the same pairing, or will it try to define a new one (all settings again)? could it be searched by name in the local pool 192.168.x.x?
cheers,
1. PC Local Sync app - if you shuthdown in via X it should shutddown (after while), if not it is bug - you can kill it with task manager.
2. You should not see more local sync processes, it means that something is hung (kill with task manager). Note - if you minimize app it is in tray, still running.
I will take a look at desktop application to improve this :/ It is masively multithreaded so some thread is probably hanging (however I did not have experience this much, is it WiFi or Usb sync?)
3. If computer changes IP address (you can use hostname too), you can change it by pressing button with link icon in that pair configuration - so settings will be kept.
If you delete pairing all sync data are removed indeed and you do not want that because it would have to resynchronize (can take hours if you have tens of thousands items in Outlook).
Thanks for clarifications.
re: PC LocalSync
Seems like all is good, X closes the app and also process. Minimizing puts it in tray. Just running it twice produces 2 processes ...
It seems the app does not need to run for syncing - is it just for info and monitoring? or does it have to run in order to sync items?
(If it is needed it'd be better if X just minimized it, to avoid closing by accident ...)
1 minor issue is that I have 2 Outlook profiles set up for manual selection at start-up - if I start Localsync before starting Outlook, it tries to start Outlook but your initial LocalSync logo hangs on top of the profile selection blocking it (can't be moved)
re: changing IP (this is a nuisance)
I guess you mean running Localsync on my HD2, then pressing adress/machine name at the top, then second icon at the bottom, next to Save, then edit address and re-pair? still not too convenient.
Trying to use hostname I get Error: UnknownHostException: <hostname>. What am I missing? Hope we can resolve this, I'd be very happy ...
BTW, tested USB sync and all is well, but I would prefer to keep it as option for syncing outside my home network only, I'm constantly on Wifi at home.
cheers,
PC application is important, it is server which exposes Outlook to android. Do not start it multiple times, it does not matter because it starts on other port, but it is not useful.
I did not test app with mutliple profiles, I will have to improve it in this area to avoid data loss (if you sync one profile, switch profile, sync then you will probably loose data).
In order to use host name, you must configure DHCP/DNS in your routers, I tried it now and it works with name then. I am using also fixed ip addresses for particular devices (where possible).
many thanks, forgot about my router config . I assigned a fixed IP to my notebook and all should be well - I should have automatic synchronization of my notes, tasks and files whenever I'm at home.
Outlook profiles is not a big issue for me, as the only difference between them are additional private mail accounts (which cause some problems while at work), data is the same. Still, you may make preparations for more sophisticated users...
So the only minor issues you can think of improving are:
* allow changing Outlook profiles if PC LocalSync starts before Outloook,
* make it more difficult to close PC LocalSync inadvertently (X minimizing not closing; separate Exit)
As mentioned, I'm push syncing Calendar and Contacts via Email.apk, and not using Tasks much - so can't help testing them.
But once again congratulations on very good apps - I'll be recommending them!!
One problem is the thread title is not mentioning local Outlook synchronization at all, so people might be missing it - I would say Note and Task apps (both very nice) are rather in addition ... unless you depend on Market exposure ...
thanks,
Thanks, I updated title. The app original name was Simple Sync but I discovered that this name is trademarked so I renamed it to Local Sync. And originally it did not have so many functions as it has now.
I am syncing exchange with this (calendar) because I do not like policy pushed by Exchange.
There can be only issue with Contacts, because manufacturers are doing proprietary changes in contacts app. But it should work on base Android, Htc and Samsung.
I just switched from an iPhone 4 to the Inspire and I would like to have everything synced all the time like MobileMe. I did the whole Gmail syncing and the contacts seem to work great and the mail however I can't get the "notes" folder in the mail app to show all the notes. Any help?
First search the marketplace for "google" there are alot of addons.
I know reader is there i use it. And groups, photos etc. can also all be reached by going to www.google.com/ig and logging in. I have found no real limitation with the stock browser and igoogle yet.
Hope that helps.
unless im thinking wrong here, android doesn't really include a notepad app like iOS does. there are a few different cloud solutions, but i believe it will involve you copy and pasting your memos into a new app. i like diigo.com combined with powernote on android.
good luck
Actually I'm referring to the folders in the mail itself. On my computer it shows the notes in the folder but once I view the folder on the phone it only shows one note.
We are developing our own SIP phone application in WP7. We planned to use Native Contacts of WP7, but instead use our own screen design for the added features like Presence etc. We can access the data using Microsoft.Phone.UserData.Contacts but we are not able to Save, Edit or Delete. Are theres API's to perform those tasks?
Personally I think the contacts provider (and other providers)in Android is a huge security risk. Every app and it's brother wants full access to your contacts so they can mine them for usable information. This can be just to add easy links to friends or to spam them with advertisements or offers to identity theft.
I've started using a pim manager that does not access Androids contact provider, calendar provider , tasks or other providers in it's operations.(And I really wish it was open source)
I have already removed the Google sync apks from my device and have removed contacts, calendar in the past. But not the providers.
It might cause some badly written apps to crash.
But I can't forsee any other serious problems.
Ideas? Thoughts?
Honestly sounds like a good idea..
Myself I decided to go for a while without any gapps and any other "store" installed on my phone.
My contacts are imported from a .vcf file which i update manually when needed.
I also have installed AFWall+ and i blocked the internet access to pretty much all the other apps including the system ones.. (everything i could get away with basically )
This could be a solution as well but it's rudimentary one at the moment.
nutpants said:
Personally I think the contacts provider (and other providers)in Android is a huge security risk. Every app and it's brother wants full access to your contacts so they can mine them for usable information. This can be just to add easy links to friends or to spam them with advertisements or offers to identity theft.
I've started using a pim manager that does not access Androids contact provider, calendar provider , tasks or other providers in it's operations.(And I really wish it was open source)
I have already removed the Google sync apks from my device and have removed contacts, calendar in the past. But not the providers.
It might cause some badly written apps to crash.
But I can't forsee any other serious problems.
Ideas? Thoughts?
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I already don't have Google apps on my device.
Everything blocked with afwall+ using profiles so things only get net when I'm using them on the net.
Fdroid is where I get 90% of my software and from the internet for much of the other 10%
I have a old phone with nothing on it personal at all. Which has play store for the 3 or 4 paid apps I need, it does updates for them and a few free ones. I copy the apks over to my daily driver.
I constantly hound developers on play store to support offline devices and not to implement features that break the app when there is no internet. Even app I don't use lol.
(I have 2 tablets and far too many old phones.only two devices are online(some are local lan only))
Someone should start a offline foundation. But being online it might be ridiculous..
I too removed contacts by using /system/app mover from f-droid. It was unintended as I wanted them as a user application but they wouldn't work like this and the icon vanished, that was fine with me for a long time. The other day I wanted contacts for signal (and telegram also won't work without them). I restored the application files from a backup,
For reference in /system/app/ the missing files were
SecContacts.apk
SecContactsProvider.apk
Other contacts programs like Simple Contacts can't run without a system permission called com.android.contacts and without those files in /system/app the permission doesn't get created at boot. The result being that no contact creation is possible.
What I would really like is a modified version of the system app that passes contacts data to the calling program depending on individual contact entry permissions with regard to each calling app; one list for telegram, another for signal etc. I gather that recent android versions above 6.0.0 have functionality to check calling application certificates so something along these lines should be possible. For earlier versions it might be necessary to switch between multiple contacts databases before starting the messaging app and also removing it from the autoboot list.
https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/permissions/defining