Dear all,
I have a Pixel 2 and am having some issue with battery life. Some days, it is crazy good: I leave my phone at 100% before going to bed, and I find it at 100% when I wake up in the morning (about 7 h of deep sleep for both me and the phone). Some other days, I lose about 40% over the same period of time. In both situations, I don't touch the phone from when I go to bed until morning. Bluetooth is disabled, WiFi and Mobile are enabled. My WiFi router is always on and I have very good cellular signal.
I thought that a rough app/wakelock could be the culprit but, using BetterBatteryStats, I have not been able to find any. The only unusual "process" seems to be one that is called "No Data Connection" and "No or Unknonw Signal", which show up as 87%, whatever that means.
Does anybody have any ideas as to what could be the source of the problem?
Many thanks!
nicolazilio said:
Dear all,
I have a Pixel 2 and am having some issue with battery life. Some days, it is crazy good: I leave my phone at 100% before going to bed, and I find it at 100% when I wake up in the morning (about 7 h of deep sleep for both me and the phone). Some other days, I lose about 40% over the same period of time. In both situations, I don't touch the phone from when I go to bed until morning. Bluetooth is disabled, WiFi and Mobile are enabled. My WiFi router is always on and I have very good cellular signal.
I thought that a rough app/wakelock could be the culprit but, using BetterBatteryStats, I have not been able to find any. The only unusual "process" seems to be one that is called "No Data Connection" and "No or Unknonw Signal", which show up as 87%, whatever that means.
Does anybody have any ideas as to what could be the source of the problem?
Many thanks!
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Losing 40% charge in standby mode is a serious issue. Could be a defective battery. Why don't you return the phone to the store you bought from and get a new one?
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Maybe you have dodgy mobile coverage where you are? If signal is weak or in/out of service any phone will use a lot more power trying to stay connected to a tower it can find. You may also experience that a phone seems to 'camp on' to a tower with a weak signal (consuming more power) even when it sometimes finds a stronger one from the same location.
No solution, other than to move!
I didn't experience any of this with my, now, old Nexus 5x, so I'd say that mobile coverage is unlikely to be the cause.
nicolazilio said:
I didn't experience any of this with my, now, old Nexus 5x, so I'd say that mobile coverage is unlikely to be the cause.
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How many bars does it show for signal strength in the status bar?
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How many bars does it show for signal strength in the status bar?
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Full signal
I should also mention that rebooting the phone solves the "fast discharge" problem
nicolazilio said:
Dear all,
I have a Pixel 2 and am having some issue with battery life. Some days, it is crazy good: I leave my phone at 100% before going to bed, and I find it at 100% when I wake up in the morning (about 7 h of deep sleep for both me and the phone). Some other days, I lose about 40% over the same period of time. In both situations, I don't touch the phone from when I go to bed until morning. Bluetooth is disabled, WiFi and Mobile are enabled. My WiFi router is always on and I have very good cellular signal.
I thought that a rough app/wakelock could be the culprit but, using BetterBatteryStats, I have not been able to find any. The only unusual "process" seems to be one that is called "No Data Connection" and "No or Unknonw Signal", which show up as 87%, whatever that means.
Does anybody have any ideas as to what could be the source of the problem?
Many thanks!
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No rogue apps in your battery stats during the 40% drain??
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No rogue apps in your battery stats during the 40% drain??
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No, none that I can detect.
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No, none that I can detect.
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I also get either 0% or 0.1% overnight drain as well. But what are you looking at in BBS? I usually look at partial wakelocks and alarms. Next time that happens take a look. Once on my Pixel I lost that amount and as it turns out a news app was running a video all night long. I sincerely doubt it's a defective battery but rather a rogue app and that's why a reboot fixes it. Push comes to shove you will have to head over to the BBS forum and post a log file. There are instructions in the OP.
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Hey,
3 days ago my mobile Internet flatrate ran out, I don't really think that this has anything to do with this but I try to provide as much information as I can.
My Nexus S was bought December last year and never really had any problems.
But now for 3 Days I have to charge that thing every damn day and the battery only lasts 18-19 hours instead of 2+ days. I haven't really used the phone in the last 3 days except from recieving calls and using whatsapp.
I have also not installed any apps in this time.
Here a screenshot from my current battery live. (Seems to be always awake)
(ICS 4.0.4 Rooted, Stock Kernel, Stock Launcher.)
Thank you guys in advance!
What does it say is the top consumer of power on the battery usage percent chart. We can't help you very much without that. Also, grab BetterBatteryStats. That will help tremendously as it can damn near narrow it down to a single culprit.
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What does it say is the top consumer of power on the battery usage percent chart. We can't help you very much without that. Also, grab BetterBatteryStats. That will help tremendously as it can damn near narrow it down to a single culprit.
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Oh damn haven't even looked at it.
Says 45% Whattsapp
32% Google Services
will download better Batterystats now. But first I will just reinstall whatsapp.
EDIT: I just reinstalled Whatsapp and will now wait what the battery says in a few hours before I buy betterbatterystats.
Thank you so far, will report back.
Yeah. Those two are probably trying to "phone home" constantly, thus causing a drain. That may be what the issue is. From the looks of it, it looks like your signal isn't stellar either. How good is Whatsapp over EDGE speeds? The 3g connection just might not be strong enough, trying to search for a signal and also draining the battery.
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Yeah. Those two are probably trying to "phone home" constantly, thus causing a drain. That may be what the issue is. From the looks of it, it looks like your signal isn't stellar either. How good is Whatsapp over EDGE speeds? The 3g connection just might not be strong enough, trying to search for a signal and also draining the battery.
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Your guess is quite good, because in my room and ONLY in my room there are some severe problems with network connectivity for almost everyone.
(But battery life was good just a few days ago?)
I currently have no mobile Internet and only use WLAN. Just disconnected phone from charger and will now see how it runs.
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Your guess is quite good, because in my room and ONLY in my room there are some severe problems with network connectivity for almost everyone.
(But battery life was good just a few days ago?)
I currently have no mobile Internet and only use WLAN. Just disconnected phone from charger and will now see how it runs.
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If you have "no mobile Internet" and WiFi is off (as in screenshot), this is your issue. The android processes are trying to re-connect keeping your phone from deep sleep. In Mobile Network Settings, disable Data. Turn on WiFi, and set Keep WiFi on during sleep to Always. When you are out of WiFi range, disable background sync.
I've noticed something on 4.0, at least in my case. Huge wake locks for no reason in airplane mode. The phone home thing is most likely the cause. Google must have changed something in the way their apps operate because this never happened in gingerbread for me.
Well, so I have observed it a little more and battery usage by google services is now up to 70%.
Thank you for the suggestions I'll try now.
But why the hell does this issue come just now? I have 4.0.4 since it came out and the issue just appeared about 5 days ago.
I wish I knew. I've got mine in airplane mode now, but no SIM in it. I've got a G2 as my daily driver now. The Nexus hasn't had any more of the airplane mode wakeups strangely enough though. Wish I knew what was actually causing mine.
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I wish I knew. I've got mine in airplane mode now, but no SIM in it. I've got a G2 as my daily driver now. The Nexus hasn't had any more of the airplane mode wakeups strangely enough though. Wish I knew what was actually causing mine.
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So to report back again, I tried SpookyTunes suggestion for one cycle of battery life.
Then after recharging I went into the app management and force-stopped the google services framework and deleted the cached files afterwards.
So now I'm back to 3% battery usage (from Google Services Framework) for the last hour.
I would give it more time to see what it uses over the course of the day.
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Okay just to deliver on my part and report back.
Here's a screenshot of my battery life now.
Google Service isn't even shown in the battery list anymore!
any news????
OK, so my wife and I both have GS3's through T-Mobile and our batteries last very long. I'm a heavy user and get a fully day while my wife is a light user and easily get's two days. My Mom on the other hand has her GS3 through Verizon and her battery is dying in roughly half a day. She is not a heavy user at all. In fact, her old Droid 2 would last longer than her GS3 which really has her frustrated.
I think it may be due to the fact she doesn't get a good 4G signal at work and at home. In fact, she gets 1 bar at work if she's lucky. She also said the phone is constantly bouncing back and forth between 3G and 4G while at work. She took it to Verizon today and they swapped SIM cards to be sure that wasn't the problem. Obviously that didn't work because I'm posting here. I will see her on Thursday and she want's me to look at her phone.
Do you guy's think this is most likely the reason as to why her battery is draining so fast? Also, if it is. Would there be a way I can show her how to disable 4G so her battery lasts longer?
It's most likely 3G and 4G switching back and forth or a rogue app. For to turn off the 4G it can't be done without rooting I'm pretty sure.
No, it's because you have task running. I had the same thing happen to me. If you exit an application by pressing home, the program will continue to run in the background. I had gallery take up 38% of my battery life. If you press the back button, it will FC the application.
Good bye HTC Rezound, hello Galaxy S3!
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OK, so my wife and I both have GS3's through T-Mobile and our batteries last very long. I'm a heavy user and get a fully day while my wife is a light user and easily get's two days. My Mom on the other hand has her GS3 through Verizon and her battery is dying in roughly half a day. She is not a heavy user at all. In fact, her old Droid 2 would last longer than her GS3 which really has her frustrated.
I think it may be due to the fact she doesn't get a good 4G signal at work and at home. In fact, she gets 1 bar at work if she's lucky. She also said the phone is constantly bouncing back and forth between 3G and 4G while at work. She took it to Verizon today and they swapped SIM cards to be sure that wasn't the problem. Obviously that didn't work because I'm posting here. I will see her on Thursday and she want's me to look at her phone.
Do you guy's think this is most likely the reason as to why her battery is draining so fast? Also, if it is. Would there be a way I can show her how to disable 4G so her battery lasts longer?
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I'm on verizon as well and I find that my battery dies extremely fast. Full charge in the morning and by bedtime its just about dead, that's with moderate use. Some things that I have found to help is I generally keep bluetooth, and gps off unless I need either. I keep power saving mode on, and really minimized what Sync's through my accounts.
It's not exactly the answer you were looking for but it should help you until a more long term solution can be figured out.
Does anyone know how to turn 4G off?
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Low tower signal will kill the battery very fast. Frustratingly fast. I have Verizon GS3, have very low signal at work, and I burn 8% battery per hour when phone is idle. With almost no use, my battery is down to 30% by time I go home.
At home I have good tower signal and my battery drops very slow in idle, maybe 1% per hour. At both work and home I have WiFi connected and set to keep WiFi on during sleep always. Therefore I don't think it's data traffic / sync causing the issue. Instead its hyperactive radio hardware or firmware killing itself as it constantly finds/loses tower connection. The only thing I've been able to find to reduce the drain is going into airplane mode... which is obviously a terrible option.
Hope Samsung can improve this self devouring nature in the future!
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Does anyone know how to turn 4G off?
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go to the playstore and download "phone info" open it and go to device information
Swith the " lte/cdma/evdo" into cdma auto (PRL)
I also turn off 4g at work due to weak signal
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I believe its a signal search at where she spends most of her time. At my work the signal is very bad and the phone goes from 100% to 20% in 10 hours without even touching the phone. Now I turn on airplane mode and it never drops the battery.
She can disable the data and find out how much that would save her
First make sure it's not a rogue app by going into Settings -> Battery, your top 2 battery usages should be Screen and Cell Standby. As long as you don't have some random app eating away at your battery then it's definitely signal strength related. Does she have Wi-Fi available at work? If so make sure she connects to it. I have a Verizon S3 and the battery life on this phone is better than any Android phone I've ever owned (and I've had a lot). I leave GPS and Bluetooth on all day and can easily get a full day with mid to heavy usage. The biggest thing would be to get her on Wi-Fi if available. This will stop the phone from constantly trying to poll data off a poor signal and significantly increase battery life. If no Wi-Fi available, then the above post would come into play, Phone Info app and switch into cdma to keep it locked into 3g will help, but only if there's a decent 3g signal. If the 3g signal is weak also, then you're not going to help anything, and she will just need to remember to turn data sync off while she's at work.
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Try switching batteries to see if she has a defective battery. If thats not the case, then make Verizon give her a replacement S3.
Add me to the list of people who think its the signal search in low service areas.. I disabled 4G with the Phone Info app and my phone lasted way longer than before..
Since you pointed out she has a low signal, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the culprit..
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Pagaldesi4life said:
Try switching batteries to see if she has a defective battery. If thats not the case, then make Verizon give her a replacement S3.
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This is what I did, kept the old battery too...then they swapped me for a w S3. My battery is doing much better now.
The5Venomz said:
This is what I did, kept the old battery too...then they swapped me for a w S3. My battery is doing much better now.
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Ahhh so it wasn't the battery itself?
When you got a replacement S3, did you go back to the same store where you had originally purchased them from or tried a different store?
I disabled 4G today at work with my stinky cell signal and my battery nose dived like usual. Therefore, if you have no signal, 3G/4G doesn't seem to matter. The radio hardware will still destroy itself happily.
Anyone know of a widget my Mom could use to disable data completely while she is at work?
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Anyone know of a widget my Mom could use to disable data completely while she is at work?
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Pull the task drawer down and uncheck mobile data. Why do you need a widget?
You might have a system process called "gsiff_daemon" draining the battery. I have that problem and others have reported that process has been draining their battery as well. Or it could be other have mentioned already, signal switching, rogue programs, etc.
Today at work I ran with mobile data off. I still had a really bad battery drain. Therefore the voice 3 g radio must be responsible. Not much we can do about that unless a new firmware comes out.
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Scrappy1 said:
Today at work I ran with mobile data off. I still had a really bad battery drain. Therefore the voice 3 g radio must be responsible. Not much we can do about that unless a new firmware comes out.
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There's also an option in the settings>developer options to restrict how many processes are running in the background, and to kill an app after leaving it. The only problem I've noticed with the second option is that the fb app won't allow you to post a status, I think because it causes it to start a new activity, which kills the main fb activity when you leave it. But limiting the background stuff seems to have saved some more juice on top of only using 3g.
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There's also an option in the settings>developer options to restrict how many processes are running in the background, and to kill an app after leaving it. The only problem I've noticed with the second option is that the fb app won't allow you to post a status, I think because it causes it to start a new activity, which kills the main fb activity when you leave it. But limiting the background stuff seems to have saved some more juice on top of only using 3g.
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Naw man, at home I have good cell signal and have almost no idle drain. At work I have terrible signal and it drains like nuts. It's not an issue with apps, processes, services, etc.
Will the phone have a longer battery life if the cell modem is set to 3g vs lte?
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Yes, in my experience with the S4 it's a pretty big difference UNLESS you get a very strong LTE signal. I'm on tmobile and now have the N5 and use the 3G setting which is HSPA/+ Plenty fast for me for what I do. When I want some extra speed I'll kick on the LTE
Does anyone have a more detailed answer for this? I just got this phone yesterday so I haven't been able to find out myself yet, just with 5hour battery life from 100% to 4% on what will only be half of its normal day I'm looking for anything to help right now till I get a battery case. This phone is one of only two to have a LTE radio that is supposed to use 30% less power than usual so I'm wondering if that makes it as efficient if not more than 3G for idle in your pocket to light stuff like FlipBoard.
it would depend on the quality of the data connection. im in brooklyn nyc, and use lte on my nexus 5 exclusively, used to use it on my nexus 4 as well. with 3g(hspa+), on both my n5 and n4, i average about 4-4.5 hours screen on time. when using lte, i average about 5-6 hours screen on time on both my nexus 5 and 4. after noticing this difference, i use exclusively lte on both my devices, as i average an hour more screen on time when using exclusively lte.
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Does anyone have a more detailed answer for this? I just got this phone yesterday so I haven't been able to find out myself yet, just with 5hour battery life from 100% to 4% on what will only be half of its normal day I'm looking for anything to help right now till I get a battery case. This phone is one of only two to have a LTE radio that is supposed to use 30% less power than usual so I'm wondering if that makes it as efficient if not more than 3G for idle in your pocket to light stuff like FlipBoard.
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Serious battery drain can have many reasons. One is having LTE on, syncing on(if you just booted it up, and input your Google account and let all your apps sync and download, its gonna drain your battery fast the first time), having locations on and wifi enabled. If you are in an area with poor reception, your phone will drain more trying to find connection.
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simms22 said:
it would depend on the quality of the data connection. im in brooklyn nyc, and use lte on my nexus 5 exclusively, used to use it on my nexus 4 as well. with 3g(hspa+), on both my n5 and n4, i average about 4-4.5 hours screen on time. when using lte, i average about 5-6 hours screen on time on both my nexus 5 and 4. after noticing this difference, i use exclusively lte on both my devices, as i average an hour more screen on time when using exclusively lte.
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Thanks for the information. That's what I was wondering but I couldn't find anyone that had already tested this with these new radios. If I get the time this weekend maybe I'll do my own test in detail to compare LTE to 3G. Am thinking of using a TV episode on Netflix and see which makes the battery drop faster over the 30 or so minutes.
Slightly off topic, does anyone's WiFi show as always on in the battery monitor even if its been off? Still trying to figure out my battery drain issue, if it even is an issue with just me, I bought this phone knowing it had a small battery.
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Thanks for the information. That's what I was wondering but I couldn't find anyone that had already tested this with these new radios. If I get the time this weekend maybe I'll do my own test in detail to compare LTE to 3G. Am thinking of using a TV episode on Netflix and see which makes the battery drop faster over the 30 or so minutes.
Slightly off topic, does anyone's WiFi show as always on in the battery monitor even if its been off? Still trying to figure out my battery drain issue, if it even is an issue with just me, I bought this phone knowing it had a small battery.
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go to the main phone settings, wifi, 3 dots on the bottom right, advanced, then disable scanning always available..
ill be interested in seeing your results
simms22 said:
go to the main phone settings, wifi, 3 dots on the bottom right, advanced, then disable scanning always available..
ill be interested in seeing your results
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Seems that's a whole other debate on weather leaving that on or turning it off helps battery life. Apparently if you turn it off then apps that want your location will turn the GPS on and waste battery (looking at you Facebook...), but if you leave it on the phone just tells the app your location from WiFi networks around you.
One thing I didn't think about is I had added my work WiFi yesterday but it wouldn't connect to it, wouldn't tell me why but I'm assuming it's because of bad signal as I'm a valet outside and the WiFi is from a bar across the street so I forgot about it but WiFi was left on with that network saved, my Nexus 7 can connect to it on most days and any laptop has no issues but with this being a phone I guess it doesn't have a big enough antenna. So I'm wondering if now that I deleted that WiFi network, and I always have my phone set to not notify me of public networks, if my battery won't die so fast today.
And now I'm just rambling but I just looked at my screenshot I took yesterday of battery use before plugging in at 4% and WiFi isn't even being shown on top six things that used the battery, lowest one being shown is a Chrome process using 3%.
EDIT: Well off to work now with my phone 100% charged, will have screen 100% (am outside in the sun), BT off, WiFi on (disconnected, no saved networks nearby, open network notifications off, always on during sleep, scanning always available, avoid poor connections, and WiFi optimization), LTE on/connected, NFC off. So lets see how things go. It will have tons of screen on time as all I do at work is read through FlipBoard, then if I run out of things on there I move to FB. Lets see how this goes...
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Nexus 5 has it and its doing its job saving battery
Sorry for digging up such an old thread, but with LTE my Nexus 6P, it switches between HSPA and 3G. When turned to 3G, nothing changes. Would that mean I would save battery?
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Has anyone else experienced any issues like this? Over the past week my Nexus 5 has been going through about 60% battery over night. In the past I would at most use 5-7%. I posted a couple pictures of my battery usage. I live in an area where my signal is always LTE and usually 1-3 bars. I do not have any new apps, location, gps and pretty much all google services SHOULD be off...
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Has anyone else experienced any issues like this? Over the past week my Nexus 5 has been going through about 60% battery over night. In the past I would at most use 5-7%. I posted a couple pictures of my battery usage. I live in an area where my signal is always LTE and usually 1-3 bars. I do not have any new apps, location, gps and pretty much all google services SHOULD be off...
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If you tap on the graph itself you'll be able to see if the phone was awake frequently or if it was losing signal, etc...
If you're seeing that the phone was awake often, try BetterBatteryStats to see what is keeping your phone awake.
Wakelock Detector is another app to try and pin down the problem.
Also, maybe try wifi overnight instead of LTE to see if that might be the issue.
its your signal quality killing your battery. you have phone idle and cell standby taking most your battery.
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its your signal quality killing your battery. you have phone idle and cell standby taking most your battery.
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I guess, but I dont know why all of a sudden it is doing it. My cell signal has remained the same at home since I got the phone in January. Unless for whatever reason it is dropping out all night...
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I guess, but I dont know why all of a sudden it is doing it. My cell signal has remained the same at home since I got the phone in January. Unless for whatever reason it is dropping out all night...
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What is especially strange is it appears you're on WiFi, and yet both the voice and data connection seem to be causing the largest drain here.
Tap the graph so we can get an idea of what the awake times and signal strength was like.
I have a similar gripe and I pinned mine down to stupid photos uploading overnight via wifi and a bunch of other wifi related crap....pretty much network things causing battery drain. also the auto update's killing it for google play stuff.
I found that switching to dalvik and back to ART [which i was on] helped a bit though i supposed there's a process running somewhere in the background that's buggy...here's hoping 4.4.x fixes it
Switch to ART cleared it for me
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Has anyone else experienced any issues like this? Over the past week my Nexus 5 has been going through about 60% battery over night. In the past I would at most use 5-7%. I posted a couple pictures of my battery usage. I live in an area where my signal is always LTE and usually 1-3 bars. I do not have any new apps, location, gps and pretty much all google services SHOULD be off...
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I also saw the same. Turning off functions, etc. had no effect, but switching form Dalvik to ART did. I'm guessing that the change probably cleared something in the OS that was actually causing the problem. Note that the reported sources of battery usage are almost the same in both images, even though battery usage rate is vastly different.
I've attached two screen shots before and after the runtime switch. The red arrow on the before image is when I made the runtime change.
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I also saw the same. Turning off functions, etc. had no effect, but switching form Dalvik to ART did. I'm guessing that the change probably cleared something in the OS that was actually causing the problem. Note that the reported sources of battery usage are almost the same in both images, even though battery usage rate is vastly different.
I've attached two screen shots before and after the runtime switch. The red arrow on the before image is when I made the runtime change.
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This is a shot from last night. I went to bed with about 50% battery life and woke up with a dead phone. Looks like cell signal maybe...
I am already using ART, but maybe I should switch back to dalvik and back to art like someone suggested earlier.
I've noticed more battery drain as well as reduced cell signal. My phone is losing connection in areas where I'd previously have 1-2 bars. I was thinking T-Mobile was changing things on their towers, but I'm starting to see other Nexus 5 owners complaining about it as well. Did they update something in the background on our phones?
You REALLY need to get Gsam and take some screens from it after a night. The stock battery usage screen shots say very little of use.
Otherwise we're are all just guessing here.
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I am already using ART, but maybe I should switch back to dalvik and back to art like someone suggested earlier.
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It's worth a shot, and I, for one, am curious to see if it helps.
FWIW, I just noticed that my battery usage is increasing significantly again. So, I may try the same thing if it persists.
I'd say there is definitely a bug somewhere, possibly interacting with an app or a subset of apps. Are you using Tasker, by any chance?
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You REALLY need to get Gsam and take some screens from it after a night. The stock battery usage screen shots say very little of use.Otherwise we're are all just guessing here.
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Good point.
As I noted in my previous post, my phone started chewing battery again yesterday. No evident trigger, battery usage rate just went up abruptly. I recharged the phone and then left it asleep over night. Images below captured this morning.
Mike585 said:
Good point.
As I noted in my previous post, my phone started chewing battery again yesterday. No evident trigger, battery usage rate just went up abruptly. I recharged the phone and then left it asleep over night. Images below captured this morning.
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Obvious culprits are WiFi and radio. Check in gsam (might be too late if you charged) for kernel Wakelocks. Or try wakelock detector app.
You could have a WiFi issue caused by other devices on your network. Would have to search on that for causes and cures. I'm not sure. I only know its been an issue.
And you appear to have no radio signal at all. If you go in to radio screen from main gsam screen, it will tell you your time searching for signal. That can destroy battery life.
It doesn't seem to he an app. Or general held awake time...as you have hardly any.
Putting phone in airplane mode over night would prove its WiFi or radio.
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If a night of airplane mode is no better, then its a rogue app. That you'd need to track down. Process of elimination style.
But its probably either WiFi or radio signal. I guess if you have location service on, it could be adding to the trouble.
Turning off WiFi would show if its WiFi....or radio. But with very poor radio signal....I know you're battery will take a beating anyway.
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Obvious culprits are WiFi and radio. Putting phone in airplane mode over night would prove its WiFi or radio..
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What's puzzling to me is that it was not an issue until a week ago, then converting to ART made it go away temporarily.
My radio signal is poor, but it's always that way at home. I definitely plan to see what airplane mode does. Will report results.
Thanks for your help.
Mike585 said:
What's puzzling to me is that it was not an issue until a week ago, then converting to ART made it go away temporarily.
My radio signal is poor, but it's always that way at home. I definitely plan to see what airplane mode does. Will report results.
Thanks for your help.
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These images are from last night. I went to sleep with about 55 percent and woke up with 31%. The screenies are from betterbatterystats. Maybe you guys see something...
Definitely radio in my case
kj2112, you were right on. :good:
Running in airplane mode removes all serious battery drain on my Nexus 5. If I turn WIFI on, there is only minor battery usage. I've installed OpenSignal and will try monitoring radio reception vs. battery drain.
I'm still puzzled by the sudden onset (could be a problem with my nearest tower, I suppose), and the fact that switching from Dalvik to ART dramatically improved battery life for a few days. That's hard to link to the poor cell signal.
I'm still suspicious that there is a software component, that may or may not be interacting with my cell signal strength.
Follup up / more info
Based on posts on other forums, I tried excluding LTE from my preferred network types, and my battery usage improved dramatically. If I choose 3G, signal strength is 2-3 bars. 2G gives me 4-5 bars. With LTE I get 0-1 bars - mostly 0. On 2G my battery life is the best I've ever seen
My suspicion is that the sudden change I saw was caused by a change in the way the radio software selects network speed options. It appears that if the preferred network type selected is LTE, the phone now will expend maximum effort continually to connect to LTE, even if there is no useful signal available. Before the change, it's likely that a stronger LTE signal was required before the phone would attempt a connection.
I'm not sure if the OS determines where that set point is located or if it's something the carrier can control. If it's the carrier then maybe the Nexus 5 has a radio that isn't as efficient as other phones, and the current algorithm is pegged to the best case phone.
If anyone knows how to adjust the conditions for attempting to connect to LTE or has any ides about who does control it, I'd definitely like to know. For now, I set my phone to 2G or 3G when I'm in a poor LTE reception area (which with T-Mobile is most of the time). That actually works okay for me, but I doubt it's a solution for everyone.
hi,
does anybody else have huge cell standby drain? it consumes most of my battery at around 27% over a day. 10% of it happened overnight. I am still testing for wakelocks and signal strength, but I hope someone had this issue already, and maybe found a solution.
also merry Christmas
ferdzso said:
hi,
does anybody else have huge cell standby drain? it consumes most of my battery at around 27% over a day. 10% of it happened overnight. I am still testing for wakelocks and signal strength, but I hope someone had this issue already, and maybe found a solution.
also merry Christmas
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Hi,
Try disabling the Always on display, I had battery drain 10% overnight and disabled it only drained 2% may be it's that...
wilpang said:
Hi,
Try disabling the Always on display, I had battery drain 10% overnight and disabled it only drained 2% may be it's that...
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thanks, I will check that tomorrow night. did that appear as cell standby as well?
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Try disabling the Always on display, I had battery drain 10% overnight and disabled it only drained 2% may be it's that...
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Did you have the motion sensor option checked?
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bloodydawn said:
Did you have the motion sensor option checked?
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Yeah I did so not sure what caused it to drain that fast. Devsk in another thread states something similar and switches his off oh well good attempt by HTC to do something different which is appreciated.
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Yeah I did so not sure what caused it to drain that fast. Devsk in another thread states something similar and switches his off oh well good attempt by HTC to do something different which is appreciated.
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I think the firmware still needs a lot of improvements
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Yeah cell standby drain is high even for me right now. I had it on normal U11 but it didn't affect usage.
On here, my battery life is only 5 hours SOT over 24 hours, so the same as U11. Cell standby drain took 30% battery.
Galactus said:
Yeah cell standby drain is high even for me right now. I had it on normal U11 but it didn't affect usage.
On here, my battery life is only 5 hours SOT over 24 hours, so the same as U11. Cell standby drain took 30% battery.
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5 hours SOT is not great for me, at least from this big a battery, it should be a comfortable 5 hours not just barely.
I have identified the biggest culprit. it is location services. on battery saver it consumed 15% overnight. if I turn it off it was only 4%.I am testing a few other options. tonight I will check how high accuracy affects it, then location history if it does not solve it
Today, mobile network standby absolutely destroyed my battery. It used 40% of my battery.
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Today, mobile network standby absolutely destroyed my battery. It used 40% of my battery.
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I think it might have to do something with location services and network strength. the network is not the strongest in the room I sleep, but I never had such a horrible drain with any phone
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I think it might have to do something with location services and network strength. the network is not the strongest in the room I sleep, but I never had such a horrible drain with any phone
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Do you leave mobile data on overnight?
Could be that its swopping from 4g/3g constantly which can kill your battery.
could try changing the sim modes by typing *#*#4636#*#* in the dialer? experiment under phone info, set preferred network type.
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Do you leave mobile data on overnight?
Could be that its swopping from 4g/3g constantly which can kill your battery.
could try changing the sim modes by typing *#*#4636#*#* in the dialer? experiment under phone info, set preferred network type.
Phil750123 said:
Do you leave mobile data on overnight?
Could be that its swopping from 4g/3g constantly which can kill your battery.
could try changing the sim modes by typing *#*#4636#*#* in the dialer? experiment under phone info, set preferred network type.
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Do you leave mobile data on overnight?
Could be that its swopping from 4g/3g constantly which can kill your battery.
could try changing the sim modes by typing *#*#4636#*#* in the dialer? experiment under phone info, set preferred network type.
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Setting to 3g only for example didn't really change much.
Also it seems that your U11+ may not be going into deep sleep. I don't always have wifi/data on all the time and overnight my battery drain is only 2 to 3% as stated in previous post and mobile network standby was 30%. But it's currently on 4% so not sure what the difference is...
HTC haven't solved this issue since U11…Maybe needed more people to report this bug or HTC won't do anything for this
In developer options try turning off always on data. It's an Oreo feature but seems an unnecessary drain on battery.
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In developer options try turning off always on data. It's an Oreo feature but seems an unnecessary drain on battery.
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only affects WiFi usage
I think I solved the issue.
I usually only use data, leave location on (battery saver mode without wifi scanning, Google location history enabled).
the thing that likely solved it for me was to reset the network settings.
Settings/System/Reset/Network settings reset
it goes to sleep properly I get 1-2% drain overnight.
alternatively somebody mentioned that clearing cache for sense home might do it as we. I did it both, and no longer have the issue (for 3 days, right now I am turning stuff back on to see if it might be something else)
if someone has the issue and tries it, let me know if this is an actual solution for you
Will want to see actual confirmation though with battery stats after a full day otherwise these claims are moot
Not saying you're lying, but evidence always helps rather than text lol
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Will want to see actual confirmation though with battery stats after a full day otherwise these claims are moot
Not saying you're lying, but evidence always helps rather than text lol
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here's the past 4 days
I am not sure why GSam only saved 4 days, I was running it for more. bot on the first day I still had the issue, and since then I was trying to fix it.
the only 2 other things that I can think of what solved the battery drain was that I do not just throw the phone on my chair, but lay it on a flat surface, or that due to the holidays the cell reception around my area was worse, and that was the one draining the battery and causing the low reception. if I check now, the cell strength is exactly the same, but in GSam in cell usage I had a lot more Low showing up. after a reset, this seems to have been solved
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here's the past 4 days
I am not sure why GSam only saved 4 days, I was running it for more. bot on the first day I still had the issue, and since then I was trying to fix it.
the only 2 other things that I can think of what solved the battery drain was that I do not just throw the phone on my chair, but lay it on a flat surface, or that due to the holidays the cell reception around my area was worse, and that was the one draining the battery and causing the low reception. if I check now, the cell strength is exactly the same, but in GSam in cell usage I had a lot more Low showing up. after a reset, this seems to have been solved
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Interesting, either way at least it is solved for you.
What is your mobile network drain % like in stock battery settings menu before your daily charge?