Sound levels, pre and post update - Razer Phone Guides, News, & Discussion

Generically looking at the windows volume mixer graph, it looks about a 20% reduction in volume. I personally would really like some communication from Razer on this matter.
It's not going to stop me getting a 2nd razer phone, because they're freakin uber! But I'm concerned to hear if it was botched code, hardware issues with the speaker manufacturer, of if it's a temporary mask of the problem.
I have the 2nd phone you see there, and it's perfect.
Here's the sound comparison, pre vs post update, Atmos on, all 3 ehancements on, custom1, maxxed eq
https://youtu.be/oog8apxoC58
Not sure what to say about this. :|

Same here,I noticed a drop in overall volume post-update,but,I really don't mind too much.
I'm going to use the phone as I normally would & the fact that Razer is proceeding w/RMAs w/o hesitation for those here having issues gives me a measure of assurance they'll do right by us.
For my use,I'm good w/the post-update volume levels,but,w/the Dolby Atmos,I'm not getting a very rich sound (needs a bit more bass,any settings recommendations are welcome). The Dolby demo shows the potential,so,I suppose quality of content plays an equally large part of the experience.
I don't use the speakers a whole lot,but,it's nice to have the dual front-firing ones w/decent sound: together w/the display quality & overall performance,well worth the price of admission. :good:

I really hope it's temporary, the sound levels were great for working in the garage.

I'm noticing some erratic changes in volume using the 3.5mm adapter and headphones. The volume will go from normal to extremely loud when I skip tracks (I've used the stock player and a 3rd party music player). When it gets super loud and I exit to the homescreen it will normalize again. It makes no difference if I turn off Dolby Atmos, and the volume leveler within the Dolby app makes no difference either.
Wondering if anyone else is experiencing this.

terrapin4 said:
I'm noticing some erratic changes in volume using the 3.5mm adapter and headphones. The volume will go from normal to extremely loud when I skip tracks (I've used the stock player and a 3rd party music player). When it gets super loud and I exit to the homescreen it will normalize again. It makes no difference if I turn off Dolby Atmos, and the volume leveler within the Dolby app makes no difference either.
Wondering if anyone else is experiencing this.
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I haven't used the 3.5mm adapter or USB-C headphones yet (got the Razer Hammerhead USB-C set on order),but,I did notice a lot more consistent/cleaner sound through the external speakers when turning off Dolby Atmos & using another equalizer app (Bass Booster):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.desaxedstudios.bassbooster&hl=en
I think there's some work that needs to be done w/the Dolby Atmos,no matter how I tweaked the settings,or,used the presets,sound was unbalanced & sounded almost as if the speakers were blown.
Hard to describe,but,like a recording of someone else's blown speakers.
If you'd like,I can test this w/some earbuds,but,they're nothing note worthy,just some buds that came packaged w/Samsung Galaxy & Note phones from the past couple of years..................

KOLIOSIS said:
I haven't used the 3.5mm adapter or USB-C headphones yet (got the Razer Hammerhead USB-C set on order),but,I did notice a lot more consistent/cleaner sound through the external speakers when turning off Dolby Atmos & using another equalizer app (Bass Booster):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.desaxedstudios.bassbooster&hl=en
I think there's some work that needs to be done w/the Dolby Atmos,no matter how I tweaked the settings,or,used the presets,sound was unbalanced & sounded almost as if the speakers were blown.
Hard to describe,but,like a recording of someone else's blown speakers.
If you'd like,I can test this w/some earbuds,but,they're nothing note worthy,just some buds that came packaged w/Samsung Galaxy & Note phones from the past couple of years..................
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Thanks. I'd like to know if anyone else can reproduce this issue. My earbuds are nothing special either. Just goes from normal to really loud when skipping tracks. Going to try a factory reset.
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terrapin4 said:
Thanks. I'd like to know if anyone else can reproduce this issue. My earbuds are nothing special either. Just goes from normal to really loud when skipping tracks. Going to try a factory reset.
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I'll post back here in an hour or so,see what I can find.
FWIW,I'll be using Google Play Music,switch back & forth from no equalizer/the Dolby on-board & the Bass Booster equalizer app I mentioned earlier.
Here's the earbuds I'll be using:
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@terrapin4
I was able to duplicate your volume spiking issue,skipping back & forth & the tracks that were low volume now played back @ the louder volume.
Very weird,not an audio software engineer here,but,this sounds like (pardon the pun) something a software update will take care of.
On a somewhat related note:
While using the Dolby Atmos w/the wired earbuds,switching between the presets had little to no difference,if any effect at all,barely noticed a difference when I turned the app on & off.
The Dolby Atmos,at least in my usage,pales in comparison to the Bass Booster app,I'm guessing any decent equalizer app in the Play Store will have the same results.

KOLIOSIS said:
I'll post back here in an hour or so,see what I can find.
FWIW,I'll be using Google Play Music,switch back & forth from no equalizer/the Dolby on-board & the Bass Booster equalizer app I mentioned earlier.
Here's the earbuds I'll be using:
https://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-eo-ig955-tuned-by-akg-earphones-eoig955bsegww/specs/
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@terrapin4
I was able to duplicate your volume spiking issue,skipping back & forth & the tracks that were low volume now played back @ the louder volume.
Very weird,not an audio software engineer here,but,this sounds like (pardon the pun) something a software update will take care of.
On a somewhat related note:
While using the Dolby Atmos w/the wired earbuds,switching between the presets had little to no difference,if any effect at all,barely noticed a difference when I turned the app on & off.
The Dolby Atmos,at least in my usage,pales in comparison to the Bass Booster app,I'm guessing any decent equalizer app in the Play Store will have the same results.
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Thanks so much for testing and posting your results. Glad it's not just me, but disappointed this will affect other users as well.
I also had similar issues switching between the Dolby presets in that they made little to no difference. I think the update broke Dolby and messed up the amplifiers. Hoping a stock factory image gets posted so I can revert back. In any case I opened a ticket with Razer. I'll let you know what they say. Thanks again!
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terrapin4 said:
Thanks so much for testing and posting your results. Glad it's not just me, but disappointed this will affect other users as well.
I also had similar issues switching between the Dolby presets in that they made little to no difference. I think the update broke Dolby and messed up the amplifiers. Hoping a stock factory image gets posted so I can revert back. In any case I opened a ticket with Razer. I'll let you know what they say. Thanks again!
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THX for opening a ticket w/Razer: :good:
Often people post in places like this & while it's definitely good to get corroboration,it does nothing if the mfgs aren't made aware of the issues.
Definitely something amiss w/Dolby as-is on the unlocked model w/the update.
I didn't try much of anything out pre-update,so,I have no basis of comparison,at least w/the wired earbuds.guessing my results would mirror yours,as did w/the OP & the decreased volume levels w/the external speakers post-update.

I just opened mine, immediately got an update. So I didn't have anything to compare to except my Pixel 2 XL which sounds much better!!
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Just got the 2nd phone from amazon as I'm awaiting the return label for the first from razer. Though the first phone now, with severely limited volume compared to the RTM phone since it's post-update, is as loud as the new phone which happens to be the 813 pre-update build.
I will reset it here in a sec to see if that changes it, but it's much quieter than the gf's still. heh
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I was going to restart the phone and check, then maybe reset.
After a restart, the phone is MUCHO louder, just like the gf's phone. Speakers are fine.
Soooooooooo
The only change? Other than setting the phone up, deny network to avoid update, and allowing google play to install the games and update everything else, I enabled dolby atmos, enabled 3 enhancements, chose custom1, turned up eq across the board, and then restarted.
So the restart enabled atmos? Sounds great though. 33% failure rate from my experience though. So I suspect the speaker failed or atmos blew em. Unless I'm completlely missing an aspect of signal processing when dealing with compact mobile audio designs.

I also received the update and tested against my pixel 2 XL. The Pixel sounds luck better than the Razer now. When I ran a test in the Dolby app the Razer sounded amazing again.

KOLIOSIS said:
THX for opening a ticket w/Razer: :good:
Often people post in places like this & while it's definitely good to get corroboration,it does nothing if the mfgs aren't made aware of the issues.
Definitely something amiss w/Dolby as-is on the unlocked model w/the update.
I didn't try much of anything out pre-update,so,I have no basis of comparison,at least w/the wired earbuds.guessing my results would mirror yours,as did w/the OP & the decreased volume levels w/the external speakers post-update.
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Been going back and forth with support today. They predictably asked me to do a factory reset to begin with. I did that and my symptoms now are as follows:
The erratic loud volume issue still persists when skipping through music tracks. This time however, the volume normalizes when I lock the screen of the phone. Whereas before it would normalize when I just navigated to the homescreen.
I've also noticed that when the volume goes super loud, I can lower it with the volume rocker key (obviously), but it's still in a louder state overall. However if I go into the Sound menu and click on the 'Media Volume' slider (without adjusting it) it normalizes the volume as if I turned off the screen like before.
None of these symptoms are present without using the dongle, so I'm inclined to believe it's something to do with the 3.5mm adapter. I'm curious to see if a normal (non THX) adapter produces the same result.
They are escalating the case now...I'll post as things develop.

I'm assuming Razer lowered the volume and ringtones until they can figure out if their current settings are blowing speakers, or maybe they have bad batches of speakers. It really sounds like they ditched QC to get as many units out the door at launch, then they will RMA bad devices once they get their line sorted out. Just my thoughts anyway. Hopefully they have all this sorted in January.

I think it would have been awesome if they figured this stuff out before launch, but at the same time I'm still cool with having the phone sooner than later.
They need to work on their communication though to the end users.

Wonder if doing a system restore through the recovery will downgrade it back to the out of the box firmware?

Can anyone dump the /system? I wanna see if there is any room for tuning this device

Well, as soon as I saw this I'm now installing the update.
If you turn it up and listen carefully you can hear the Custom 1 default profile, all 3 enahancements off, max volume, the RTM build vs the update today, build details in vid description.
* Vid soon to come, Kanye took the original down :/

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Sound tweak to up volume?

Hi,
Does anyone know a way to tweak a system file so that Inspire's volume is higher?
I personally find its stock volume rather low, and I want to increase it.
I downloaded Zedge. It is a free app with nice louder ringtones.
Hope this helps!
I'm wanting to up the volume system-wide. But, thanks for the info anyway
Yea, I tested a movie and sling player last night. The media volume was all the way up and it was quite.
I went from iPhone 4 (nice and louad) to Atrix 4g (nice and loud) to Inspire 4g (too quiet).
I am loving the Inspire but the sound volume and battery life are definitely the 2 big downsides of it. Still a winner over the Atrix any day though.
I personally don't have issues with the battery. I've removed all extra stuff. Even before removing them, I was happy with its battery.
It can't be that hard to change the system volume. It's done in every smartphone and OS before. Hopefully, some developer notices this thread and help us out.
goldentequila said:
I personally don't have issues with the battery. I've removed all extra stuff. Even before removing them, I was happy with its battery.
It can't be that hard to change the system volume. It's done in every smartphone and OS before. Hopefully, some developer notices this thread and help us out.
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+1
I'm half deaf. Need a louder phone please.
same here, the phone volume is too low. Maybe if can acces service codes? I did it on my previous Samsung phone.
Hi, all.
So, I've been doing some digging around, and looks like there are 2 possibilities.
One is to modify the system files manually (which would be very complicated), but I personally prefer this method rather than having to install extra stuff. However, this method is not available to us unless some very smart person shares the method with us.
Two, which seems to be the only viable option at the moment, is DSP Manager. As far as I understand, it used to be available through ROM Manager, but it is no longer there. I saw a thread that said the author was not releasing it anymore because most MOD developers were now including it in their ROMs from the beginning.
So, if we can find a way to install DSP Manager, we may be able to tweak the max speaker volume. But, that's as far as I could find. I'd need someone smarter to look into this.
Hi,
An update and a new idea.
First, DSP Manager doesn't work on Inspire 4G, so don't bother.
Second,
Here's a new idea I have about the low volume sound fix. I just read a comment from HTC employee who said, "The front speaker is for phone calls and the rear speaker is for everything else."
In other words, if we can find a way to keep the front speaker enabled all the time, we should be able to get more sound. I don't know much about what kind of coding is involved in routing sounds from each speaker, but I wonder if this would be an easier hack than trying to increase the entire system volume, which may still feel low volume for as long as we can't get any sound out of the front speaker.
Maybe someone smart can add to this possibility?
#1! I like to use voice recordings as scheduled reminders, and the playback volume out of the rear speaker is way too low.
I did notice the low volume on a movie i downloaded but you never can tell with those sorts of things. Overall the sounds is incredible even through the speakers with (SRS) and dolby mobile.
Could use something to ++output level.
Id like to see an app to change audio volume levels while recording video.
(ive only had the phone a couple days i returned my samsung Cap upgrade for the 4g, forgive me if there is such an app out there)
How often do you go to watch an awesome looking concert video and the sound is trash? It would make for some beautiful recordings i think. I have yet to test this one, but the Captivate could not record decent sound at all in loud environment.
I personally have come to believe that it is really not that the "volume" is low but rather a "wrong" speaker is being used. I mean, if the main speaker is on the back facing away from us, of course we don't hear much sound. If you flip the phone while playing music or video, you'll notice that the sound is actually loud enough. So, if we can enable the front speaker for normal use, I really think that it'll be just fine.
about every HTC phone has a quiet speaker. but cyanogen typically always includes the audio boost add-on. so i'd just wait for cyanogen 7 to include it, and your troubles will be solved.
well, even if the volume is boosted, as long as the sound is coming out of the rear speaker, if you place your phone on its back on a table or something, the sound will still suffer. It makes more sense to find a way to enable the front speaker.
Most of all phone have a rear facing speaker. But some phone are loud and some are not..
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goldentequila said:
well, even if the volume is boosted, as long as the sound is coming out of the rear speaker, if you place your phone on its back on a table or something, the sound will still suffer. It makes more sense to find a way to enable the front speaker.
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+1 this would be quite useful!
kwin_captivate said:
Most of all phone have a rear facing speaker. But some phone are loud and some are not..
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No, they don't lol. (you may be right if you are talking about specific brand or series, but certainly not "most of all phones").
I just came across something that may be relevant to the audio routing, but I'm not smart enough to figure them out. If anybody wants to take a look at it, it would be great:
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/media/AudioManager.html
There are several lines there that talk about Routing.
GT
This may sound ridiculous but works!
Hi, all.
I just came up with a very simple workaround for "only when you are watching a video or something."
Now, you're gonna probably laugh, but trust me. It really works.
Just play any video, and hold your phone as if you are scooping water. The key is the left hand. When you cup your left hand around the rear speaker, it creates a echoing chamber that redirect all sound toward you. You'll be able to hear the sound much better.
GT

[Q] Sound quality concern

I've noticed that quality of sound when I connect speakers (3.5mm Jack) is poor.
Music sounds tinny and distorted. If I play the same file using my Nexus S, it sounds crystal clear.
Has anyone else found this or do I have a fault with my unit?
Thanks.
I'm also interested. It could be a deal breaker for me. It would be great if someone could dig up what A/D converter is used in Transformer (but it would probably require taking it apart ). It would be great if USB sound cards worked with Android.
If anyone who has one could run a test it would be much appreciated.
I'll add in my request for some info. Good sound is vital...
Do you get bad sound with headphones as well? Or just with the speakers?
BongoBong said:
Do you get bad sound with headphones as well? Or just with the speakers?
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Headphones a well.
I'm more inclined to think it's a fault as it really is awful.
just tested music via spotify. Sound through headphones is fine - pretty decent in fact.
<edit> youtybe vids sound fine also. <edit>
heard reports sound quality is fine, could be a damaged one you have?
You should also try checking if it's possible to put the jack deeper into the slot. The behavior you observed could be caused by bad contact. Also move the jack a little (rotate it) during playing music and check if the sound quality changes - maybe it's a little loose. But then it wouldn't be the same for headphones and speakers, so probably it's not it.
I got my transformer 32 two days ago and it worked perfectly, then today I have gotten my first SoD, and just recently my sound has gotten these same symptoms. Sound from both the speakers and headphone jack is very, VERY tinny and low quality. I thought it was linked to an app I just installed as it was not installed before when it worked fine, but the problem persists post-uninstalation. If anyone finds a fix to this PLEASE SHARE. I'd really rather not have to do an RMA already! :/
UPDATE: Now there is no sound period. I can not get anything to play from the speakers, headphones, OR over bluetooth. fun! *sarcasm*
UPDATE 2: Restart, sound is back, still fuzzy. Possibly a SRS Driver error? Perhaps the 'SRS Surround Sound' is more trouble than it's worth. Anyone know of a default driver that I could try and flash?
UPDATE 3: Sucked it up, backed up my files and did a factory reset. Sound is now back to normal sans the bad app. I'll update if it goes to **** again but let's just get this fixed Asus!
Interesting thread! I'm on day 4.5 and my speakers are tinny, which I'm saying is ok for audio only..yet not music, not even close.
But, a new world with headphone/ear buds and I discovered something interesting that I don't understand after playing around for 2+ hours. Yet now I'm really, really pleased.
My new Monster Turbine ear buds that are really nice on my iPod Touch to enhance give me an tinny sound like quality and are my newest. A 'no go' and I almost thought I had speaker problems.
But, my regular/standard iPod Touch ear buds and my Boise Headphones are really, really nice for sound quality...bass, deep sounds, etc.
I know I don't know enough about ear buds/headphones, but surprised that the ones I thought would work the best...didn't come close.
I do plan to watch them while I still have my 'return period', but super nice audio with the right ear buds/headphone only(s).
Similar issues:
Sound was fine for the first 3 or 4 day, then i started experiencing the same tinny sound, vocals almost seemed slurred audio quality was so bad, however notification sounds seemed fine. This lasted 2 days then magically the sound returned to normal. Again about 3 days later the same poor sound returned, so I searched these forums and someone had posted doing a factory reset which worked, however I do not want to be having to do this each and every time the sound goes fuzzy. Since the .13 update the whole poor sound good sound returning has happend once more....very frustrating
My 3.5mm jack works fine (day 6 for me). Sound quality is better than any other android device I've used. Volume is a little low but otherwise sounds fine.
My sound goes to crap every few days. Crackling, distortion, etc. A reboot always fixes temporarily. Clearly a software problem.
Going to miss the Dolby Mobile sound on the Iconia. While not perfect it was really good. Will see how the TF sound stacks up when it comes in tmrw!
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UPDATE 3: Sucked it up, backed up my files and did a factory reset. Sound is now back to normal sans the bad app. I'll update if it goes to **** again but let's just get this fixed Asus!
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You mentioned a bad app. What app was it?
I've just sound tested my TF the other day, and was quite impressed with the sound quality from the drivers. I did a comparison between my TF and my iPod touch using sennheiser bass driven earbuds. I'm definitely getting more clarity and bass from the TF than I am from the iPod. It sounded amazing. With that said though, I know there's a bug sometimes where I guess the sound driver isn't working properly and my movies start sounding like they're using 8-bit sound output.
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Damn! I thought my TF had rubbish sound, and then found this thread, rebooted and sound became magnificent!

How to increase volume without volume+ or rooting

For those looking to crank a bit more volume out of the stock setup, here is an easy way, that requires no additional apps or rooting (some apps claim to work without root, but other than Volume + they are a mixed bag, with varying degrees of performance. Some plain just don't work.
Start Google Play Music App. Begin playing something you know well. Choose the menu from the top right (3 stacked blocks), and select Equalizer. Either drop the selection down to "custom" or just start raising the bands. Raise them most or all the way to the top. A "bigger" sound can be achieved with a classic "V shape (boosting the low and high frequencies, and leaving the center, 1000hz at or below midway)
Oh, then hit the "On" switch in top left corner. You will be AMAZED at the difference in sound, if you toggle it off and on a bit while playing music.
This is technically not the loudest, that can be achieved by pegging all bands to the top, but the mid-frequencies tend to sound "tinny" or "Like a small or cheap speaker" to most folks ears. By reducing it, and boosting the bottom and top frequencies you get a nicely boosted sound, though somewhat colored (an audiophile is not likely to be wowed by this type of spectrum boost, but, depending on the source material most folks like this, as it's comparable to what a "loudness" button does, and with the Infinities VERY small speakers. Yes there are 2 in there, and they are stereo, though how Asus expected to get ANY separation or any type of "sound stage" through a 1.5" x .5 " grill remains a mystery, even if they did apply some delay, echo or reverb, which I do not believe they did.
Some swear by Volume+ and I had good experiences with it on my Prime, but when something in my setup caused both Volume+. Musicfx (the built in Equalizer I just described tuning) and settings to crash every time I used it, I decided to see what I could do without it. I am quite happy wiith the boost that musicfx provides
speakers problem
Hi.
I have a problem with my speakes, from few days. I don't know if was app that change the sound because now the sound is like an old radio. I changed the equalizer, but nothing happened.
Could you help me? Anyone have the same problem?
spaker off
dnoguera said:
Hi.
I have a problem with my speakes, from few days. I don't know if it was app that change the sound because now the sound is like an old radio. I changed the equalizer, but nothing happened.
Could you help me? Anyone have the same problem?
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Hi, I discovered today that the problem was one speaker defected. At the end of the day this speaker off. Now my music is in mono.
Anyone knows how to turn on again this speaker, any solution??
dnoguera said:
Hi, I discovered today that the problem was one speaker defected. At the end of the day this speaker off. Now my music is in mono.
Anyone knows how to turn on again this speaker, any solution??
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I have a feeling that you aren't speaking of the Asus TF700T Infinity.
Are you having a problem with plug-in speakers or bluetooth speakers?
The Infinity has but one single speaker.
Is the speaker inside the Infinity working?
one of my speakers turn off
Thats OK said:
Ive a feel that you aren't speaking of the Asus TF700T Infinity.
Are you having a problem with plug-in speakers or bluetooth speakers?
The Infinity has but one single speaker.
Is the speaker inside the Infinity working?
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Hi
Yes I'm talking about TF700T infinity
No problem with the plug in.
The TF700T has two speakers in the same place. One of them turn off.
I know that because my music sound in mono insted stereo.
dnoguera said:
Hi
Yes I'm talking about TF700T infinity
No problem with the plug in.
The TF700T has two speakers in the same place. One of them turn off.
I know that because my music sound in mono insted stereo.
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Sorry,
Don't know what to tell you.
Sounds like a manufacturing defect.
Apologies to the OP for the thread hijack...
Thats OK said:
Sorry,
Don't know what to tell you.
Sounds like a manufacturing defect.
Apologies for the thread hijack Mr. SmartAs$Phone...
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That's right buddy!
Any solution?
Doesn't work globally (for me at least)
There's only one problem, from what I can see this only boosts sound via the app itself or perhaps music. I fired up a game to test this and the levels were the same as before.
The global solutions is to use the app: equilizer and do the same thing (I raise all sliders to the top). I used this on my HTC until I found a way to get volume+ to work on that.
Volume+ however, isn't compatible with JB but in any case there is a limit to how much you SHOULD risk bumping up your volume. I already get a little distortion using equilizer on the louder audio files I have, the limitation is going to be the speakers installed which can be damaged.
Unfortunately as with so many Android devices sound quality isn't a priority with manufacturers which amazes me particularly on both the HTC (targeted to audio users with a phone barely adequate in stand alone volume level / quality) and the TF700 which is a flagship tablet with price to match.
louiscar said:
There's only one problem, from what I can see this only boosts sound via the app itself or perhaps music. I fired up a game to test this and the levels were the same as before.
The global solutions is to use the app: equilizer and do the same thing (I raise all sliders to the top). I used this on my HTC until I found a way to get volume+ to work on that.
Volume+ however, isn't compatible with JB but in any case there is a limit to how much you SHOULD risk bumping up your volume. I already get a little distortion using equilizer on the louder audio files I have, the limitation is going to be the speakers installed which can be damaged.
Unfortunately as with so many Android devices sound quality isn't a priority with manufacturers which amazes me particularly on both the HTC (targeted to audio users with a phone barely adequate in stand alone volume level / quality) and the TF700 which is a flagship tablet with price to match.
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Oki doki
Thanks buddy!
You're welcome...or thank you again!
SmartAs$Phone said:
For those looking to crank a bit more volume impossible. stock setup, here is an easy way, that requires no additional apps or rooting (some apps claim to work without root, but other than Volume + they. tommixed bag, with varying degBluetooth
erformance. Some plain just don't work.
Start Google Play Music App. Begin playing something you know well. Choose the menu from the top right (3 stacked blocks), and select Equalizer. Either drop the selection down to "custom" or just start raising the bands. Raise them most or all the way to the top. A "bigger" sound can be achieved with a classic "V shape (boosting the low and high frequencies, and leaving the center, 1000hz at or below midway)
Oh, then hit the "On" switch in top left corner. You will be AMAZED at the difference in sound, if you toggle it off and on a bit while playing music.
This is technically not the loudest, that can be achieved by pegging all bands to the top, but the mid-frequencies tend to sound "tinny" or "Like a small or cheap speaker" to most folks ears. By reducing it, and boosting the bottom and top frequencies you get a nicely boosted sound, though somewhat colored (an audiophile is not likely to be wowed by this type of spectrum boost, but, depending on the source material most folks like this, as it's comparable to what a "loudness" button does, and with the Infinities VERY small speakers. Yes there are 2 in there, and they are stereo, though how Asus expected to get ANY separation or any type of "sound stage" through a 1.5" x .5 " grill remains a mystery, even if they did apply some delay, echo or reverb, which I do not believe they did.
Some swear by Volume+ and I had good experiences with it on my Prime, but when something in my setup caused both Volume+. Musicfx (the built in Equalizer I just described tuning) and settings to crash every time I used it, I decided to see what I could do without it. I am quite happy wiith the boost that musicfx provides
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Trying to respond to this using the Infinity and Dolphin browser is almost impossible. No hitting spacebar twice to end a sentence. Messes everything up big time!! It has a real hard time dealing with the code i guess. Might be a good time to try another browser.

Nitpicking the note 3 + USB 3.0 Vs. USB 2.0 + RL First Cycle Battery Usage Stats

Disclaimer: This thread is just meant to help note 3 future buyers. All things listed are just minor inconveniences. The note3 is the best electronic device I've ever used to date. I think it's the best phone to date. The below pertain to the Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 model of the Note3; users of the Exynos model may have different results:
The good things about the phone are many. This part is not meant to list them, because you probably already know them.
Having said that, here are the things I've noticed so far (My phone is Qualcomm Snapdragon model with 32gb):
The phone gets somewhat warm at the back (above the samsung logo and below camera) during some usage. [Update: Temperature has been improved in my second day with the phone. It still gets a 5-7 degrees warmer while using the camera or intensive browsing, but nothing to worry about imo]
The home button is not firm in its place. It moves in its socket (much prone than it was on the note2)
The volume rocker on the left of the phone is placed higher than on the note2 (whether this is good or bad is up to you).
***UPDATE***
There is a noticeable and ugly pop sound followed by a static noise whenever the audio stops while using the AUX port in my car. When the audio starts again, the sound disappears completely. When audio stops or gets paused, it's fine for 3 seconds and then the pop sound hits again followed by the static noise. [I'll have to test this using another aux cable before confirming on this one though so don't quote me. The aux cable I'm using is one year old, $12 from radio shack]
There is an ever so slight gap between the frame and the glass on the top and bottom (the gap is a bit bigger at the bottom than on the top) which accumulates dust particles. The sides don't have any noticable gaps, at least in my phone. To be honest though, the issue is much less noticeable than it was on my note 2 (my note 2 had gaps on both sides as well as top and bottom), and you can't see it unless you deliberately look for it.
Charger is now much harder to both plug in and plug out of the phone (thanks riz157). This is actually an advantage for me since Note2's usb wire that came with the note2 would get detached very easily from the slightest of movement. However, one disadvantage of the new wire comes in the form that it is now more difficult to plug-in in the dark; the hole is a much tighter fit now.
The S-pen is not flush with the back cover like it was with the note2. It is now protruding by like 1millimeter. This is just a silly point, but I decided to throw it in. It is also somewhat harder to get out (thanks ipkryss for pointing this out), but it is easier to put back in (you can now put it back in in two different ways, as opposed to note2 which accepted only one way). The pen itself is thinner, looks more premium, and feels better in the hands than before.
***UPDATE***
Unfortunately, updating the Youtube app to the new version seems to break the functionality of the Scrapbooker feature that enables you to save Youtube videos in your Scrapbook.
You'll have to go to Youtube's application info and click "Uninstall updates" to revert back to the Youtube's old version if you want it to work.
It's one of the most interesting features for me when it comes to Scrapbook, so I hope they make it compatible with the new Youtube soon.
*** There seems to be a glitch where my phone would start only utilizing CPU1,CPU2 and CPU3&4 would remain "offline" no matter what you throw on the phone. This has happened a total of three times on my phone and was fixed with a simple reboot on all three occassions (Had the phone since 5 days now).
To put things into perspective, my Quadrant score on this phone is around ~22,000. When the glitch was triggered, Quadrant score was ~13,400 (which is still higher than the second highest score that belong to HTC One)
I can't replicate the issue because I haven't the faintest clue what triggers it. Not to alarm people, this might only exclusive to the ROM in my phone, as I haven't seen anyone else report it yet, and it seems to be a rare occurrence. If more users of the S800 model can chime in and track this on their phones (for a period of at least 2-3 days) I'd appreciate it. If it does turn out to be an issue with all S800 models and not just specific to my ROM, notifying Samsung should get it easily fixed with an update.
USB 3.0 Vs. USB 2.0:
Using a stopwatch, I set out to calculate the transfer duration of a 5.64GB from my PC to the internal memory of the phone:
First test: using USB 2.0 cable (Media device MTP connection), USB 2.0 port on my PC, File size 5.64GB.
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TRANSFER DURATION: 00:01:37 (97 seconds)
BATTERY STATS:
So I bought phone yesterday evening. Charged it overnight. It was 100% when I woke up at 6:25am to get ready for work.
Enabled data (3g HSPA though, not 4g). Data was enabled for the whole day. The phone was on wifi for only 5-10minutes in the morning--ignore the bar in the second screenshot which shows that WIFI was on for the whole time. That may be a software bug.
The brightness was on Auto and on the middle of the Automatic brightness adjustment bar for the whole duration.
Phone Usage Included:
Chatting on whatsapp
Using XDA forum app
Reading some tech news using Appy Geek app
Installing around 20 apps from the Google Play Store
Listening to music to and from work through AUX port in car
Fiddling around with the phone from time to time --testing Air command, browser .. stuff like that
By around 10pm, the battery was around 33%. I began running YouTube videos on HQ, with max volume, and on 3g for a total of around two hours.
Finally, the battery dropped down to 7%.
* Disclaimer: The usage did not include extremely battery-hungry tasks, such as playing games or running benchmarks. GPS and Bluetooth were off. Air gestures and such 'gimmicky' features were off, as I don't really use them. Note that your Note3 battery life might/will differ depending on usage and whether you're on WIFI or 4g.
*** Charging Speed (using AC adapter): Around 47 - 48% / hour. I plugged my phone when it was 5% at 12:36 am, by 1:36 am it was up to 53%. ***
And below are the results:
Verdict: the battery life is fantastic. Enough said. If my usage didn't include running Youtube videos, then the screen-on time would have probably been more than 7 hours. Note that this is on the first charge cycle of the battery. To make it short, it will easily last you a full day if you're a heavy user, and more than a day if you're a light user. Keep in mind that screenshots were taken when battery was 7%, so it still had some "juice" in it left
OFF-TOPIC: I know I said I wouldn't mention the good parts of the phone, but I have to say that the display on this phone is lovely and to me a worthy upgrade to the Note2's. The blacks are BLACK. So much so, that if you open a completely black screen on the phone, and go in a pitch dark room, the phone will be completely invisible because it blends perfectly with the dark. As a point of comparison, my Note2 looked greyesh in a completely dark room.
The whites are improved as well over the Note2, they now look more "milky" if that makes sense.
MohJee said:
Disclaimer: This thread is just meant to help note 3 future buyers. All things listed are just minor inconveniences. The note3 is the best electronic device I've ever used to date. I think it's the best phone to date.
The good things about the phone are many. This thread is not meant to list them, because you probably already know them.
Having said that, here are the things I've noticed so far (phone is qualcomm model with 32gb if anyone is interested btw):
- The phone gets somewhat warm at the back (above the samsung logo and below camera) during some usage.
- The home button is not firm in its place. It moves in its socket (much prone than it was on the note2)
- The volume rocker on the left of the phone is placed higher than on the note2 (whether this is good or bad is up to you).
Will update this thread if I find anything else. Doubt there will be many, if any ,more though. For anyone else who has the phone, feel free to contribute.
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No need to apologize for constructive criticism, the best way to learn about a device is to know what's not working well, everything else is just for comfort.
Please state your device number and system-on-chip on board.
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How is the audio jack signal?
Is it clean or do you hear a crackling or "noise" when you pause an audio track?
Also what headphones are using, what track, what type of recording, what volume level?
Are you using a headphone amp to power the headphones etc..
grifter9931 said:
How is the audio jack signal?
Is it clean or do you hear a crackling or "noise" when you pause an audio track?
Also what headphones are using, what track, what type of recording, what volume level?
Are you using a headphone amp to power the headphones etc..
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I've tried the ear phones that come with the device (which are improved from the ones that come with the note2 btw -- they have the noodle-like cable now) and to be honest I didn't hear any crackling sound or noise when playing or pausing the audio.
MohJee said:
I've tried the ear phones that come with the device (which are improved from the ones that come with the note2 btw -- they have the noodle-like cable now) and to be honest I didn't hear any crackling sound or noise when playing or pausing the audio.
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Can you turn the volume all they way up and hit pause, if you don't hear any "noise" then at least the headphone jack has a clean signal..
Thanks!!
grifter9931 said:
Can you turn the volume all they way up and hit pause, if you don't hear any "noise" then at least the headphone jack has a clean signal..
Thanks!!
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Ok.. I went into a completely silent area and turned volume to max with audio paused. There might be something there, but if there is then my ear is too weak to pick it up, because I can't decide if there is really some faint sound or my mind is imagining things.
To be verified by some other user... I might not be the best test subject when it comes to audio
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Ok.. I went into a completely silent area and turned volume to max with audio paused. There might be something there, but if there is then my ear is too weak to pick it up, because I can't decide if there is really some faint sound or my mind is imagining things.
To be verified by some other user... I might not be the best test subject when it comes to audio
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It's all good man, thank you for testing it out. I have pretty good monitors and I will test them as well. But if you didn't hear something noticeable chances are its there is none..
Please mention your phone processor type (Snapdragon or Exynos) when you share your critics about this phone.
Perhaps some problems are exclusives on a spesific type
azhurvadal said:
Please mention your phone processor type (Snapdragon or Exynos) when you share your critics about this phone.
Perhaps some problems are exclusives on a spesific type
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I already mentioned that I'm using qualcomm 32gb model (qualcomm snapdragon N9005)
MohJee said:
I already mentioned that I'm using qualcomm 32gb model (qualcomm snapdragon N9005)
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I know you did.
I meant it for other note 3 owners who will share their critics in this thread
MohJee said:
Disclaimer: This thread is just meant to help note 3 future buyers. All things listed are just minor inconveniences. The note3 is the best electronic device I've ever used to date. I think it's the best phone to date.
The good things about the phone are many. This thread is not meant to list them, because you probably already know them.
Having said that, here are the things I've noticed so far (phone is qualcomm model with 32gb if anyone is interested btw):
- The phone gets somewhat warm at the back (above the samsung logo and below camera) during some usage [this could very well be the result of the constant updating in the background since it's still a new phone]
- The home button is not firm in its place. It moves in its socket (much prone than it was on the note2)
- The volume rocker on the left of the phone is placed higher than on the note2 (whether this is good or bad is up to you).
Will update this thread if I find anything else. Doubt there will be many, if any ,more though. For anyone else who has the phone, feel free to contribute.
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The home button on my is fine but the s4 I had used to have with a wobbly home button so suspect it's a generic issue with build quality.
Audio is massively better than the s4 in terms of volume and quality
you have to use quite bit force to disconnect charger and headphone, anyone else noticed that?
riz157 said:
you have to use quite bit force to disconnect charger and headphone, anyone else noticed that?
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Both should loosen up with use.
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Both should loosen up with use.
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*giggidy*
What about bluetooth connectivity? Any WiFi interference issues? I've seen reports of the Note II suffering from this with certain headsets.
With my nail-bitten fingers its impossible for me to get my pen out! i need to use my teeth or ask somebody else.. damn. I hope it'll loosen up a little bit, or this might be a great opportunity to stop biting my nails!
Anyone else have this issue?
MohJee said:
- The phone gets somewhat warm at the back (above the samsung logo and below camera) during some usage [this could very well be the result of the constant updating in the background since it's still a new phone]
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I'm accustomed to this, as my Epic 4G Touch accumulates heat in the same area It's likely where the processor is located.
I'll add what I can next week when mine arrives... hopefully I won't have much to add
I went to a store here in Sweden to try one. Sweden's getting the S800 variant. I got to use the first note 3 they had in stock, before it was even tethered to the bench with the rest of the phones. Booted it, skipped all the setup screens etc. Just messed around with features for 10 minutes.
I was looking for "lag" or stuttering in the the UI as the S4 has. It was rare, but it happened when scrolling the widget filled homescreen once or twice (out of 20-30 times). Didn't slow down the animation, the animation just seemed to drop a couple frames.
Still want it though, unless a deal breaker shows up in this thread.
Just bloody expensive in Sweden. Unlocked and off contract is 1000-1100 dollars depending on the store.
What is the call quality like? Also what is reception like? This will be my home and personal phone so I need that part of it to work well.

[REVIEW] Skullcandy Smokin' Buds 2 In-Ear Bluetooth Wireless Earbuds

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I had before the Sony SBH-20, they were pure crap and bad quality (one of the buds broke after a year), the mic was low volume and the audio quality very bad but I used mostly to do voip calls, using the Sony's in the other end they ever had to make some effort to hear me because of the low volume of my voice, I think the mic is a normal Sony issue because I have another cable headset for using with my computer that has low mic volume too. (I will never buy again something from Sony that has a mic )
Now with this Skullcandy Buds (bluetooth version 4.0) I can say wow... is night and day compared with the Sony's, I use this headsets paired with a Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+ and I use to do voip and normal call, to hear the internet radio and music when I'm on my bicycle, my experience today was great. Talking when I'm on the bicycle with some wind, my voice was really clear and loud on the other end (I did a test with Skype's Echo Test Service to check by myself), the noise cancelling worked great with the wind and mic sensitivity is fantastic.
I was a bit worried about the neck collar because I bought them online without testing them first, it is very comfortable and the buds with the neck collar are lightweight, is like not having anything on your neck, I was very surprised how comfortable they are and when using them riding my bicycle were great, they don't even move because they have a small rubber connector at the level of the curves of the cable, looking at the front they form an "X", so is impossible for them to slip away. Is the first day I have them but I feel them they will be comfortable for the day to day use when I'm working.
I'm not an audiophile but the audio quality is great, I really like them, they have good bass, middles and maybe not too much highs, great quality for hearing mp3 when you are running or in a bicycle.
They have 3 buttons that work perfectly with Android 5.1.1: Volume control, start/stop and if you long press some seconds the "+" button or "-" button you advance tracks or go previous tracks (I used the app Jetaudio) that works perfect on Android.
When I hear the music with my cellphone, I take my phone at the level of my waist, so there is some distance to my neck where the buds are
and the bluetooth signal was ever perfect, no glitches like I had with the crap Sony's.
About the battery in the description is say it last 6 hours, I have not had the opportunity to test this now because they are in the first charge and don't know how long does it take to full charge them, later I will update this information.
I don't know how this buds will last so later if I have any issue I will update this review, but the build quality looks very good.
I think till today they are by long the best bluetooth headset in the market.
They have noise cancellation ? How to turn it on? Tks
Use these right now, and I can totally vouch for this great pair of earphones. Although IDK if this is my phone or the earphones but it takes a lot of time for the device to be detected if not paired. Otherwise its perfect.
I have them as well and I like them a lot but I don't really care for the neckband too much I was looking into getting some beats powerbeats2 since they don't have anything like that.
citytrader said:
I had before the Sony SBH-20, they were pure crap and bad quality (one of the buds broke after a year), the mic was low volume and the audio quality very bad but I used mostly to do voip calls, using the Sony's in the other end they ever had to make some effort to hear me because of the low volume of my voice, I think the mic is a normal Sony issue because I have another cable headset for using with my computer that has low mic volume too. (I will never buy again something from Sony that has a mic )
Now with this Skullcandy Buds (bluetooth version 4.0) I can say wow... is night and day compared with the Sony's, I use this headsets paired with a Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+ and I use to do voip and normal call, to hear the internet radio and music when I'm on my bicycle, my experience today was great. Talking when I'm on the bicycle with some wind, my voice was really clear and loud on the other end (I did a test with Skype's Echo Test Service to check by myself), the noise cancelling worked great with the wind and mic sensitivity is fantastic.
I was a bit worried about the neck collar because I bought them online without testing them first, it is very comfortable and the buds with the neck collar are lightweight, is like not having anything on your neck, I was very surprised how comfortable they are and when using them riding my bicycle were great, they don't even move because they have a small rubber connector at the level of the curves of the cable, looking at the front they form an "X", so is impossible for them to slip away. Is the first day I have them but I feel them they will be comfortable for the day to day use when I'm working.
I'm not an audiophile but the audio quality is great, I really like them, they have good bass, middles and maybe not too much highs, great quality for hearing mp3 when you are running or in a bicycle.
They have 3 buttons that work perfectly with Android 5.1.1: Volume control, start/stop and if you long press some seconds the "+" button or "-" button you advance tracks or go previous tracks (I used the app Jetaudio) that works perfect on Android.
When I hear the music with my cellphone, I take my phone at the level of my waist, so there is some distance to my neck where the buds are
and the bluetooth signal was ever perfect, no glitches like I had with the crap Sony's.
About the battery in the description is say it last 6 hours, I have not had the opportunity to test this now because they are in the first charge and don't know how long does it take to full charge them, later I will update this information.
I don't know how this buds will last so later if I have any issue I will update this review, but the build quality looks very good.
I think till today they are by long the best bluetooth headset in the market.
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Does this headset have voice dial option..I am using with Samsung note 4 and voice dial does not work. Even after keeping the call button pressed.
I have a galaxy s6 edge amd my phone wont find them at all ive tried on mutilple phones iphone amd windows as well
sapneshshah said:
Does this headset have voice dial option..I am using with Samsung note 4 and voice dial does not work. Even after keeping the call button pressed.
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I don't think it has it
xena1234 said:
I have a galaxy s6 edge amd my phone wont find them at all ive tried on mutilple phones iphone amd windows as well
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Maybe is broken, I don't have any problems in my Edge+
Hi. Will it works with sony z series phone.? Did anyone tried..?
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Hows is the bass ? Is this good for extream bass lovers.?
Skullcandy Smokin' Buds 2:
Great bass, decent mids, somewhat muddy highs.
For sub $50 these are a great purchase.
In order to use features like voice dialing, you must pair the headset with the phone, and then authorize the headset as a trusted device.
As a trusted device, the headset can make and accept calls, and wake the lock screen.
On the s6 try using the Bluetooth under settings, not the bluetooth under the dropdown menu. They never showed up on my s6 until i did this, it then found them and they seem to work well.
if you have problems with connecting to device, just dont forget that you have to hold the middle button on the skullcandy to enter pairing mode then the red and bue light going to repeatably flash then you can connect.
Mine is getting a purple LED light and won't give me the option to do the Bluetooth sink routine! Can anyone help?
Xact97 said:
Mine is getting a purple LED light and won't give me the option to do the Bluetooth sink routine! Can anyone help?
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Are you pressing the middle button at least 15 seconds?
Yes I've been holding if for that, and I've even tried doing longer but still no change! Any explanation for the purple LED?
Xact97 said:
Yes I've been holding if for that, and I've even tried doing longer but still no change! Any explanation for the purple LED?
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Never happened to mine that, its blue or red, have you charged it for at least 3 hours?
No I have not charged atleast for 3 hours I will try this and inform later, thankyou anyway!
I have the skull candy smokin' buds and a samsung galaxy S6 edge. I like them both very much but they do not seem to work well together. it keeps cutting off when listening to music or even during phone calls. It is driving me mad. Any solutions ?
I was just wondering how do you know when the Headphones are done charging and if there is no specific time how long do you think I should charge it for? Thanks
Dyrone said:
I was just wondering how do you know when the Headphones are done charging and if there is no specific time how long do you think I should charge it for? Thanks
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When are charging, light is red, when they are full charged, the light becomes blue.

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