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There are several threads about how buggy HTC devices are and that almost all vendors release "unfinished" products so they can more quickly earn money with them and only at a later point the might fix the problems. I don't want to defend HTC or start an additional discussion of that kind but I want just to sate a positive statement as counterpart. I'm using HTC devices since the first one which came out and when I look back I find it amazing what's possible on today's PPCs. And to illustrate what I mean here is a list of things I do with my PPC:
Instant Email reception (pushmail) for Business Emails
Shared Calender (also instantly synched)
Shared with my colleagues
Shared with my wife - so normally my calender knows about family acitvity before I do
Using it as a torch (using hTorch of course )
Using it as alarm to wake me up
Using it as e-book reader for the daily newspaper I read
Using it to browse websites like this forum while lying in bed
Using it as a portable video player combined with PocketPlayer to watch selfmade DivX/XviD movies
Sometimes using the mentioned video payer in combination with TV out while traveling
Sometimes using the two above mentioned functions in combination with my bluetooth stereo headset
Using it as "external harddrive" - well with a 16GB microSD there is still plenty of space left even with iGO installed, a lot movies and music on the card
Using it for navigation with iGO
Using it for "GeoCaching" with my son
Using it to watch movie trailers with the youtube app while I'm bored at public transport f.e.
Using it as digital camera when I've forgotten my real one (as I do most of the time)
Using it to listen to music mostly with the stereo bluetooth headset which enables me to control the music player via the headset
Using the above mentioned function while jogging combined with a GPS tracking software to analyze the track afterwards
And when someone calls me during jogging my headset automatically witches to handsfree mode and I can communicate via the bluetooth headset without the need to put the PPC out of the pocket. After the call is finished the music continues automatically
Using it as Phone/SMS/MMS of course
Using eWallet to safly store all my passwords etc. (synced with the PC)
Using it to remotely control linux servers via SSH
Using it to remotely control windows servers via RDP
Using it to always have pictures of my family with me
And probably a few more things I didn't think of at the moment
I could probably state at least one bug about every point mentioned above. But that's not the point. My point is, that today a PPC is really a "Pocket PC" which enables me to do things I wouldn't have dreamed of a few years ago.
I really look forward to the years to come. And just to mention one very important additional aspect: My PPC wouldn't be worth half as much without this community! Microsoft and HTC should regularly donate instead of watching this community with Arguseyes.
Just my two cents which I had to state once.
PS.: Sorry for the slightly off-topic posting but since my impressions are related to my TP and a lot of people are whining about the TP's bugs I wanted to post it here.
"and just to mention one very important additional aspect: My PPC wouldn't be worth half as much without this community! Microsoft and HTC should regularly donate instead of watching this community with Arguseyes."
I totally agree you !! Thanks xda-developers and all members
@ DeepThought
Using it as a torch (using hTorch of course )
LOL
But you are right, it's really handy to have a flashlight at hand.
And I agree, without XDA-developers maybe I would not have a HTC anymore.
I'm really a bit disappointed with the Qualcomm chips.
I agree with every single thing you listed... although pitty is that you can't do all of this continuously for more than 3-4 hours.
I'm not complaining because I'm always near to an electric socket... but I wouldn't mind if the battery lasted a little bit longer ;-)
johanromijn said:
@ DeepThought
Using it as a torch (using hTorch of course )
LOL
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I couldn't resist.
johanromijn said:
But you are right, it's really handy to have a flashlight at hand.
And I agree, without XDA-developers maybe I would not have a HTC anymore.
I'm really a bit disappointed with the Qualcomm chips.
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That's right I would almost certainly not having an HTC device if this community wouldn't exist.
ferus said:
I agree with every single thing you listed... although pitty is that you can't do all of this continuously for more than 3-4 hours.
I'm not complaining because I'm always near to an electric socket... but I wouldn't mind if the battery lasted a little bit longer ;-)
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That's true. But on the other hand I do about two thirds of the list every day and the battery always lasts one average day for me (from ~0700 to ~2300). So it could be better of course but it could be much worse too.
Nice idea to put this all together on a post as some might have forgotten how cool it is to have just ONE device managing all these tasks! I fully agree with you on both - the features and bugs, but when reading posts like recently about where people complained about the poor graphics performance, I think to myself, hey, at least you CAN watch movies on it besides many other features lilke use it as audio player, use it as GPS system,.... and not to forget: use it as a mobile phone .
And if something does not run perfectly, well, it's annoying but having insight in today's software developing processes I only can say that HTC is not the worst performer there...
Just my 2 cents,
Cactus World
Cactus World said:
And if something does not run perfectly, well, it's annoying but having insight in today's software developing processes I only can say that HTC is not the worst performer there...
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I think so too.
Using it as a Spying Utility, putting it in silent mode then letting it call any different phone number to listen in on what's going on.
Using it as a "Find The Thief that Stole My Phone" Utility.
Using it as a Video tape with the TV Out.
and off course for some of the unfortunate.
Using it as a PaperWeight, also off course made possible because of XDA
hello everyone, especially developers.
i have recently bought a pair of Beats by Dre headphones, which sound incredible so i'm keepin' em despite the following.
the headphones have a control/mic box on the line, for pausing music and changing the volume and ending calls and so forth without using the phone.
the problem is, the controls are built to work with iProducts, so the only thing that actually works on my N1 is the mic and play/pause button.
if an awesome dev out there could make an app that listened for the specific keys of the headset and translated them into the correct commands, or if said awesome dev could think of a more integrated way to do this (i'm on CM6) i could pay that dev money.
all i can really offer is $20, through paypal, but if anyone reading this thread feels for the cause, up the ante.
i'll provide any information you need, obviously.
this is what the controls should do:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_oHcWa2roSA8/THSZRwZxTuI/AAAAAAAAADY/EL5co-8C9xo/s512/IMG_20100825_001228.jpg
this will be interesting to see if it can be done. I'm curious though, are the bands around the 3.5 jack in the exact same spots as the bands on the default android headphones that came with the n1? if not i doubt this will happen, if so then i suppose its a matter if someone can figure out what resistances come across when the buttons are pressed.
...holy crap, those instructions are pretty convoluted lol "press button in rapid succession while the wire is upside-down and the humidity in the air is above 80% while standing on your head to scan through a track"
i'll throw a dub at the dev that comes up with a solution for this as well. i don't personally use them, but my sister does and I know she'd love this functionality as she is blind, so controls on the headphones are a big help.
OP: if you hold in the talk button on your beats, does it launch voice command on the phone?
I'll throw in $5 if this can be accomplished. Sorry it's not a lot, but college is expensive you know?
This should help whichever dev takes this on: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5489250&postcount=3
Same problem here... Beats By Dre Solo and Xperia X 10. Hope this isn't a hardware issue, guessing so though. Please help if you can! I will donate $20!
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Hey,
just a toss out to you guys...
I just bought some Solo Beats by Dre, and they came w. The controltalk wire as a surprise bonus. Despite it being a bonus, I felt it was a better justification of the price range I paid. Nevertheless, to the point...
I have a Motorola Milestone on Telus, in Canada. When I realized it didn't work, I noticed that pushing the volume button "currently" mutes the call, and shortly thereafter ends it. Upon further investigation involving multiple repeat calls to a friend, I noticed that if u hold the volume button (either the - or +, doesn't matter) it mutes it, and u can continue the call and unmute it via the touchscreen. However, no voice through the controltalk mic. Letting go of the buttons results in terminating the call.
Positive results include pushing the centre button at particular levels, the other end hears a beep when u do this, and sometimes clicks.
I hope this helps in some way shape and form, if the open source community could bring Androids to these headphones lineup of phones they function with, you open up a whole other market for them! It's good publicity for the open source effort. (And not that smeary "open" crud toted in media to sate the dumb deaf and blind.)
Also, I move that this thread be sailed on over to that there Android Software Development forum, what say ye??? Yarrr
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Yarrrr, this is a currently relevant issue with Androids, and I don't have the ability to create new threads yet, therefore Im stuck groveling before you scallywags!
Let's have this thread moved please? (what pirate asks politely?)
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Continuing to top this post until it garners some attention. If my support for open source is going to continue at all, it would be nice to be apart of the reasons that make it superior. (Community feedback + community programmers = more done for the user)
Is anyone at least working on this?
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If someone could run down what kind of programming language needs to be used for this for me, that would be great. I guess from there you kind of need to buy a paid and take them apart to get an idea of all of the buttons etc. And the circuitry?
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Most likely java with the android sdk
And you probably wouldn't need to rip the headphones apart, just use an ohmmeter on the jack
This is probably one of the neatest things I've seen.
http://hybratech.com/products/orb.php#
It's not out yet but It looks like it'll be pretty interesting when it does.
Looks nice, but I have to remain skeptical about this one.
I've used Jawbone Bluetooth headsets before that used bone conductivity technology and was not impressed. And those Jawbone units were built larger and had an actual earpiece to help keep it in place. Twisting it constantly won't be good for it either. Sometimes with Bluetooth earpieces smaller isn't always better. Maybe it will work well, but I can't see how.
I think the message when you receive a text scrolling across it in ring form is one of the neatest features.
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DraconicSeed said:
I think the message when you receive a text scrolling across it in ring form is one of the neatest features.
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Definitely neat. I don't know how easy it would be to read on a ring though. I am thinking about getting one of the watches that will do similar (not a Bluetooth ear piece though) but I think it would be easier to read on a watch. I am going to let them iron the wrinkles out of the watches before a seriously look at them. The ring idea has potential, but it will be interesting to see how it works in a real world setting.
No exaggeration, I read about this and followed it's development almost 5 years ago. I wouldn't hold your breath. I think it is just fishing for email addresses now.
I wonder if this also works with music... If It does.... Then it will be godly.
DraconicSeed said:
This is probably one of the neatest things I've seen.
http://hybratech.com/products/orb.php#
It's not out yet but It looks like it'll be pretty interesting when it does.
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"Deluxe models feature an e-ink display [...]"
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY GODDAMNED MONEY.
Okay,
Some folks have had the phone for about 24hrs.
What things do you absolutely hate about the phone?
What is disappointing about it?
What will you mod on the phone?
And what about the phone would you like to walk up to the design team and give them a great big kick in the crotch about???
• Not a big enough bump technology wise from the Note 2
• Poor Radio's
• The speaker. Wish it had dual speakers
• The back cover not feel like leather
• Small notification light
• Knox security
• Gets hot when stressing the device
• Screen Gap
• Battery Drain
• Region Locking
• Only 4 columns on home screen
• Bezel size
• Bloat ware from carrier
• Headphone jack is said to be excellent
• Rooting to mod the battery indicator
• Long press the on the soft menu button will run S –Finder not Google Now
• * Lack of Custom roms
• * Lack of custom kernels
• * Locked bootloader
• * Ease of the ability to root
* Designates TBD
There are also quite a few complaints about the polycabonate build material of this phone.
Whether this is a reasonable complaint or not is up for debate. If you purchased this phone without reading about the plastic body or without demo-ing the phone beforehand. Then I think that responsibility resides with the consumer for not doing any research about this piece of technology.
What things do you absolutely hate about the phone?
The speaker. The speaker is much better than my old galaxy s3, but i'd really liked it if they had put in dual speakers. Luckily i don't use the speakers that often, but it still bothers me, although i knew it before buying the phone obviously.
I also really dislike the very small Notification light. The light in my S3 was much bigger.
What is disappointing about it?
I thought the back of the phone would feel like actual leather, but it doesn't. It's still better than my galaxy s3, but i much preferred the metal feel of my Desire HD.
I'm also disappointed that there doesn't seem to be any place to buy the samsung accessories in my country, they don't even have the phone added to the danish version of the samsung website, but i'll have to wait for it to be released, i just usually like to get the case with the phone.
What will you mod on the phone?
I'll root it when that becomes available, and install cyanogenmod(Or something in that category) when i get tired of touchwiz.
And what about the phone would you like to walk up to the design team and give them a great big kick in the crotch about???
The small notification light & the speakers. Possible adding a metal back, but not at the cost of a removable back.
What is the point of this thread in a newly released phone's forum? people just bought their phone and you are trying to get them to remember buyer's remorse. There really isn't any point in it
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Jamal Ahmed said:
What is the point of this thread in a newly released phone's forum? people just bought their phone and you are trying to get them to remember buyer's remorse. There really isn't any point in it
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The point of this thread is to catalog any problems people are having with their phones, so others contemplating a purchase can have more information. Personally, I appreciate it.
I'm very much interested in this thread and it's a very good question.
There a ton of love for the N3, but I also want to know what people don't like. Starfigher's issues would not be my issues, but it's good to know what bothers people and see if it is a global issue or just someone's personal preferences.
Jamal Ahmed said:
What is the point of this thread in a newly released phone's forum? people just bought their phone and you are trying to get them to remember buyer's remorse. There really isn't any point in it
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Back off. This is a useful thread
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Back off. This is a useful thread
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Agreed. Good thread, I am also very interested in what people dislike about the Device.
We already have threads covering all this, visit them so owners don't have to type it down again.
BoneXDA said:
We already have threads covering all this, visit them so owners don't have to type it down again.
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We already have threads devoted specifically to problems with the device?
bigmout said:
The point of this thread is to catalog any problems people are having with their phones, so others contemplating a purchase can have more information. Personally, I appreciate it.
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I appreciate it to...what I really want to know is how the dev support is going to be for the exynos version...and how well it works especially the octa core system and it's switching ability
I also like this thread. Problems can be a separate issue than likes/dislikes. Although I won't get my phone for a few days, I appreciate the feedback others are giving, both positive and negative.
I just got my N9000 today.
What things do you absolutely hate about the phone?
Knowing that this phone might be hard to customize because of Knox.
What is disappointing about it?
Long press on the soft menu button will run S-Finder not Google Now like in my Note II.
S-View Cover Wireless not available yet!
What will you mod on the phone?
Root it and mod the battery indicator. Basically, I will mod the touch wiz to make it look like in my Note II
And what about the phone would you like to walk up to the design team and give them a great big kick in the crotch about???
Wish it has dual speaker on the bottom
The reason why I made the thread is to have a single thread where early adopter could voice their pleasure or displeasure with particular aspects of the phone. As a Hobbyist/Prosumer you have to remember not all consumers are as phone or forum savvy as many of "YOU" are, when it comes to searching or finding out things about any phone.
So the idea behind this was to give a rundown of what people disliked and from there if they so choose to research it even more, they would have a few search terms to use in order to the using the "SEARCH" feature on the forum much easier. I will periodically update my original post with bullet points as it warrants with new found dislikes etc..
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Long press on the soft menu button will run S-Finder not Google Now like in my Note II.
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Ugh. No way to disable that without rooting?
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I will visit them and update my original post with I can find or understand as a gripe that isn't telecom or user error related.
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I'm very much interested in this thread and it's a very good question.
There a ton of love for the N3, but I also want to know what people don't like. Starfigher's issues would not be my issues, but it's good to know what bothers people and see if it is a global issue or just someone's personal preferences.
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And there are many good reviews and information available so most buyers should know what they are buying and in most countries you can return the device. Pointless thread.
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Nah. Wouldn't say so. Generally speaking, I trust members of xda more than random reviewers whose agenda I don't know.
Just as a starter: if I had known about this Knox - thingy, I might not have bought the N3. I read many reviews - but when I made the decision to buy the device, none of those were talking about Knox at all.
I hate the plastic build.
I dislike amoled.
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Ugh. No way to disable that without rooting?
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Install Apex (or a similar launcher), which lets you customize what long-pressing the menu button does. For example, I have mine set to open up Contacts.
Love everything, but the speaker! Its crap!!!
I'm working on a volume boost though..just as I found for the Note 2. Phone is now rooted..so should be able to edit settings!
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Hey Everyone!
My video review went live on Thursday but forgot to post it so here it is.
Let me know what you think.
Edit out the initial clapping. Kind of low energy but maybe that's just your way. Overall ok, but saying they put zero effort in software is a little over the top.
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Edit out the initial clapping. Kind of low energy but maybe that's just your way. Overall ok, but saying they put zero effort in software is a little over the top.
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I kinda agree.. It's a little dull compared to other reviewers/review videos. It didn't really grab my attention at all. Plus there is not a single close up shot of the device and 360 camera (which is present in every single good review of a device) it's just you sitting at a table talking about it. It needs more b-roll, more close-ups of the device showing its features/design etc.. I would recommend watching more reviews from your AC buddies, Mr Mobile, MKBHD etc if you're looking to become a "personality". Sorry, that's just my opinion and some constructive criticism.
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Thanks for the input guys.
bill3508 said:
Edit out the initial clapping. Kind of low energy but maybe that's just your way. Overall ok, but saying they put zero effort in software is a little over the top.
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Ya the clapping was just for fun to see how it reacted with people i am taking it out. Tried to keep the energy a bit down on this one so i could get my thoughts out clearly. Usually a bit more animated. The software is just stock android and they need to make a few more tweeks to make it a bit more usable IMO. It works well but could be better.
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I kinda agree.. It's a little dull compared to other reviewers/review videos. It didn't really grab my attention at all. Plus there is not a single close up shot of the device and 360 camera (which is present in every single good review of a device) it's just you sitting at a table talking about it. It needs more b-roll, more close-ups of the device showing its features/design etc.. I would recommend watching more reviews from your AC buddies, Mr Mobile, MKBHD etc if you're looking to become a "personality". Sorry, that's just my opinion and some constructive criticism.
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Ya the 360 video i already did and think i linked it in the video i may have to check that. did not want to rehash to much if i had it in another video. I wanted more footage and b roll but TBH this was done a day before i had to leave to go and get married last weekend lol. Last 2 weeks have been all wedding no time to film much of anything but i am working on that side of it for sure. I'm slowly trying to build my own "brand identity" where its not only about tech. example be on the lookout from my Hawaiian island videos that will be coming in the next month. Gonna do some fun shooting and storytelling in them
It's OK. But you're a bit late to the party--the reviews that were going to sway anyone came out over the past couple of weeks. At this point, you need to work outside the box to bring something novel to your review...or it's just going to be more noise.