I have been using Miracast for years with my previous Android phones while traveling in hotels, etc. I love that it doesn't require a wifi connection and I can still screencast whatever is on my phone to my TV. I've been reading that Google is blocking miracast on the Pixel phones so you have to use Chromecast but it doesn't have the same functionality of being able to connect using wifi-direct. Does anyone know of a way to connect my Pixel to miracast? I've read that I will need to root my phone, most of the instructions I've seen have been pretty complicated and I don't want to risk voiding my warranty.
Any help out there?
Thanks in advance,
Augie
Interested in an answer to this as well. Is it just a build prop edit like in models past? Can't find anything definitive.
I'm looking for an option to get Miracast to work without rooting as well on my Pixel 2XL. Actually, my issue is I do not have WiFi and I need a way to project my phone screen onto my TV. Apparently there is no way to hardwire and after buying a Chromecast, I found out it will not work using the hotspot from my phone. I need WiFi... Which I don't have. Any recs?
Also interested in finding a solution to mirror the Pixel 2 using Miracast.
Worked perfect with my S7 Edge and a Miracast receiver.
Pixel 2 and Chromecast not only requires a router, which I hate, but mirroring videos are very laggy/choppy.
In my experience, without root the most effective app for my Samsung smart TVs has been AllCast. It's not great, but it has worked.
LastFrontier said:
I'm looking for an option to get Miracast to work without rooting as well on my Pixel 2XL. Actually, my issue is I do not have WiFi and I need a way to project my phone screen onto my TV. Apparently there is no way to hardwire and after buying a Chromecast, I found out it will not work using the hotspot from my phone. I need WiFi... Which I don't have. Any recs?
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Of course you can connect your pixel 2 or pixel xl to TV without rooting by using the Chromecast hardware.
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Of course you can connect your pixel 2 or pixel xl to TV without rooting by using the Chromecast hardware.
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NOT WITHOUT AN INDEPENDENT WIFI connection. Chromecast has to be using wifi, you cannot hotspot from your phone to chromecast AND use chromecast. Your phone and Chromecast have to be connected to a different wifi network, not the hotspot. So no, you are incorrect.
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NOT WITHOUT AN INDEPENDENT WIFI connection. Chromecast has to be using wifi, you cannot hotspot from your phone to chromecast AND use chromecast. Your phone and Chromecast have to be connected to a different wifi network, not the hotspot. So no, you are incorrect.
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Not sure why you say that, I use my hotspot to Chromecast every day. Now, you NEED a second device to get set up but once you do, you can use the hotspot.
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OK. What if we're not trying to cast to a TV? What if we have a device in our car that ONLY supports Miracast? How do we connect our Pixel 2 phone to a device where Miracast is the ONLY option and we don't want to root the phone? Anything more helpful than unhelpful people saying "use Chromecast" and not actually answering the question this entire thread is based off of?
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OK. What if we're not trying to cast to a TV? What if we have a device in our car that ONLY supports Miracast? How do we connect our Pixel 2 phone to a device where Miracast is the ONLY option and we don't want to root the phone? Anything more helpful than unhelpful people saying "use Chromecast" and not actually answering the question this entire thread is based off of?
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Similar issue, as my portable pico projector requires Miracast...
Has anyone figured out a way to enable screen mirroring on the pixel 2? I understand there have been methods in the past regarding the build prop file.
Looking to mirroring via a wire or even WiFi direct rather than Chromecast.
Feedback is appreciated!
Minikefala said:
Has anyone figured out a way to enable screen mirroring on the pixel 2? I understand there have been methods in the past regarding the build prop file.
Looking to mirroring via a wire or even WiFi direct rather than Chromecast.
Feedback is appreciated!
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This question has been asked a couple of times... I think I've posed the question to a couple of peeps. Originally I thought this was a hardware restriction, but seen that one individual stated that it was working on a Pixel ROM https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74365223&postcount=4 It's possible that when the ROM was ported over, the settings necessary came over with it. I haven't gotten too much deeper than this, but certainly would like this feature as well.
As far as Google sales Chromecasts, we won't get Miracast. It's business... It's the same for MHL, as far as Google sales Android auto, we won't get MHL support to use with some Head Units... Or at least we won't get it without root
buschris said:
Not sure why you say that, I use my hotspot to Chromecast every day. Now, you NEED a second device to get set up but once you do, you can use the hotspot.
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OK. What if we're not trying to cast to a TV? What if we have a device in our car that ONLY supports Miracast? How do we connect our Pixel 2 phone to a device where Miracast is the ONLY option and we don't want to root the phone? Anything more helpful than unhelpful people saying "use Chromecast" and not actually answering the question this entire thread is based off of?
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Miracast is not set up on the Pixel 2. Myself? Personally? I do not have Wi-Fi, my only source of internet in my household is using my phones hotspot. Until the Pixel 2, I've gotten around carrier hot spot data limits by Miracasting whatever is on my phone screen, ie. Netflix to my smart TV, data shows up as my normal data, hotspot is reserved for actual hot spot needs etc. Unfortunately Pixel 2 does not have the ability to Miracast. Whatever transmission tech is needed for Miracast to project from the Pixel 2 has been deliberately left out by Google in order to boost Chromecast sales. And unfortunately, Chromecast will not use my Pixel 2's hot spot to both set itself up and receive data from my Pixel, my phone and the chromecast have to be connected to a Wi-Fi network, not my hotspot. Oh, and Google has also disabled the ability to share your screen via cables plugged into a tv/laptop as well. It's chromecast or nothing. But if you want to complain to Google with me or start a petition or something, I'm down. This is painful
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Miracast is not set up on the Pixel 2. Myself? Personally? I do not have Wi-Fi, my only source of internet in my household is using my phones hotspot. Until the Pixel 2, I've gotten around carrier hot spot data limits by Miracasting whatever is on my phone screen, ie. Netflix to my smart TV, data shows up as my normal data, hotspot is reserved for actual hot spot needs etc. Unfortunately Pixel 2 does not have the ability to Miracast. Whatever transmission tech is needed for Miracast to project from the Pixel 2 has been deliberately left out by Google in order to boost Chromecast sales. And unfortunately, Chromecast will not use my Pixel 2's hot spot to both set itself up and receive data from my Pixel, my phone and the chromecast have to be connected to a Wi-Fi network, not my hotspot. Oh, and Google has also disabled the ability to share your screen via cables plugged into a tv/laptop as well. It's chromecast or nothing. But if you want to complain to Google with me or start a petition or something, I'm down. This is painful
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I'd love to complain to them. I'm just not sure who would listen. Seems unfair to other products though that they stripped out Miracast in favor of their own devices....
Actually read that dealing with chromecast side of things was actually easier to bypass than doing the whole phone root which I'm not interested in or confident enough to do. Let me think about this. This issue is common in a lot of forums. And it's not cool Google took a tech on most phones and previous versions of the Pixel itself to pigeonhole consumers into buying their Chromecast. Don't companies get sued for this type of crap? Not saying Miracast is worth a lawsuit, but isn't this playing a bit dirty?
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Actually read that dealing with chromecast side of things was actually easier to bypass than doing the whole phone root which I'm not interested in or confident enough to do. Let me think about this. This issue is common in a lot of forums. And it's not cool Google took a tech on most phones and previous versions of the Pixel itself to pigeonhole consumers into buying their Chromecast. Don't companies get sued for this type of crap? Not saying Miracast is worth a lawsuit, but isn't this playing a bit dirty?
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So far, 2 ROMS that I have tried on the original google pixel has Miracast enabled. I've successfully connected to my Roku3 on both...
Good news! Yes, it's lame, no time as good as I hoped, but I found a semi-solution. My original issue, I do not have WiFi only my phones hotspot. I need to screen mirror so I can pretend I have TV. Pixel 2 does not have the Hardware to transmit wireless HD aka screen mirroring. The only way to pull this off, unfortunately, is with a Chromecast. However, chromecast no longer let's you use your phone as the wifi network (via hotspot) to **set it up the FIRST time**. It won't connect to the same phone where the wifi is coming from. Sooo... I had to hotspot my Pixel 2 to an old phone, my sprint Note. The Note connected to the hotspot from the PIXEL, I downloaded Google Home on the N4 and connected to CHROMECAST. I had to use the Note 4 to set up the chromecast to recognize the hotspot from the pixel. Then I disconnected the note 4, and started using my Pixel. As long as my hotspot from the pixel is one, Chromecast will connect and use it. HOWEVER.... I cannot screen cast from the pixel to the chromecast. I cannot mirror my screen. Only time that worked was when I had it set up backwards where the Sprint Note 4 was the hotspot. This has been a lot of ****ing work. I just wanted to avoid going against my hotspot limit. Apparently that's not going to happen. But, at least I'm able to get my phone connected to my TV again. That's refreshing. Even if it uses my data.
LastFrontier said:
Good news! Yes, it's lame, no time as good as I hoped, but I found a semi-solution. My original issue, I do not have WiFi only my phones hotspot. I need to screen mirror so I can pretend I have TV. Pixel 2 does not have the Hardware to transmit wireless HD aka screen mirroring. The only way to pull this off, unfortunately, is with a Chromecast. However, chromecast no longer let's you use your phone as the wifi network (via hotspot) to **set it up the FIRST time**. It won't connect to the same phone where the wifi is coming from. Sooo... I had to hotspot my Pixel 2 to an old phone, my sprint Note. The Note connected to the hotspot from the PIXEL, I downloaded Google Home on the N4 and connected to CHROMECAST. I had to use the Note 4 to set up the chromecast to recognize the hotspot from the pixel. Then I disconnected the note 4, and started using my Pixel. As long as my hotspot from the pixel is one, Chromecast will connect and use it. HOWEVER.... I cannot screen cast from the pixel to the chromecast. I cannot mirror my screen. Only time that worked was when I had it set up backwards where the Sprint Note 4 was the hotspot. This has been a lot of ****ing work. I just wanted to avoid going against my hotspot limit. Apparently that's not going to happen. But, at least I'm able to get my phone connected to my TV again. That's refreshing. Even if it uses my data.
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Can't use a Chromecast in my car lol
b00ster23 said:
This question has been asked a couple of times... I think I've posed the question to a couple of peeps. Originally I thought this was a hardware restriction, but seen that one individual stated that it was working on a Pixel ROM https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74365223&postcount=4 It's possible that when the ROM was ported over, the settings necessary came over with it. I haven't gotten too much deeper than this, but certainly would like this feature as well.
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That was me, now I'm at it again. I actually sold the first Pixel because the roms that allowed for Miracast had other, deal-breaking bugs. I picked up a Pixel 2, and love the phone, but I have three criteria that are non starters for me, phone wise:
*Locked bootloader - not an issue with the P2
*VOLTE on Tmobile - not an issue with the P2
*Miracast - not available on the P2
I can confirm that on the stock rom, the build.prop edit does not actually enable functioning Miracast. If I can't find a working rom, I will sell the phone. If anyone has any info, please share.
Just an aside - please stop suggesting Chromecast as an alternative. Everyone on xda knows about this device and it's ability to mirror the phone's screen. If we're asking about Miracast, we need Miracast.
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Hi, I have a great suggestion for an app.
In Windows 7 you can download connectify and it will turn your computer into a wifi hotspot..an app similar to this for android would be a great idea and find lots of use not to mention tons of $$$!
I do know that there is a such app on the iphone (called Mywi) but it is only avaialble when you "jailbreak" but android market seems much more lenient since there are many tethering apps available like PDAnet but they are restricted on the iphone
uhhhhhh
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
mrono said:
uhhhhhh
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
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That is for rooted devices only. I mean for people who would rather not "tamper" with their devices and leave it as stock
well those people can wait to upgrade to android 2.2, since it's part of the stock android rom.
Or they can pay sprint 20.00 per month. But for me I'd rather have full access to my phone.(I'm just saying). If ur concern about violating term of contact I think there is an unrooting thread out there somewhere.
Go ahead give it a shot.....EVO 4G
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darkrebirth said:
well those people can wait to upgrade to android 2.2, since it's part of the stock android rom.
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Actually it isn't.
SigmunDroid said:
Actually it isn't.
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Actually, it is. Wether it makes it to your device or not depends on hardware/carrier and what not. It is removed from CM's Magic ROM, because the Magic does not have the correct chipset to support it.
It's likely most carriers will remove this to 'protect' their networks... So rooting is probably your best option for this. The issue is that root is needed from a technical aspect in order to perform the changes needed to the networking stack etc.
So for now it's either froyo with it included (needs your telco to be cool about tethering) or use the wifi tether app and root
I was scared to root my phone due to the fact that I was new at it and could brick my phone and lose my warranty.
But I grew a pair, and I'm rooted and do not regret it....
tbrummell said:
Actually, it is. Wether it makes it to your device or not depends on hardware/carrier and what not. It is removed from CM's Magic ROM, because the Magic does not have the correct chipset to support it.
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I'm running BB v0.4 FR84B Rom with wireless tether and it works
but is not included with Verizon Wireless (stock).
The USB (wired) tether *is* included but you have to pay for it-not free.
With the way carriers are concerning tethering please let me know
what carriers have this wireless tether feature preinstalled?
HI
hey is there a wifi app that can make your wifi connection go further out in range to pick up a wifi connection do xda have an app like that or the android app market
tbrummell said:
Actually, it is. Wether it makes it to your device or not depends on hardware/carrier and what not. It is removed from CM's Magic ROM, because the Magic does not have the correct chipset to support it.
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Are you telling me that wireless tethering is native to a stock
ROM from all Wireless providers and that they "choose" to leave it in or
omit it?
I'm sure if this is the case...it is a purely on a technicality.
Do you know of ANY stock ROM out there in existence that
leaves this feature there for its users (so that the wireless provider)
loses millions of dollars in revenue?
Well considering that native wifi tethering is new to 2.2, I guess we'll have to wait and see who pulls it and who keeps it.
And how does it lose millions in revenue anyway? I pay for a 6 gig data bucket. If I go over said data bucket, I pay through the nose for it.
SigmunDroid said:
Do you know of ANY stock ROM out there in existence that
leaves this feature there for its users (so that the wireless provider)
loses millions of dollars in revenue?
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My samsung galaxy s comes with a Wireless AP mode, stock. Extremely useful.
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tbrummell said:
Well considering that native wifi tethering is new to 2.2, I guess we'll have to wait and see who pulls it and who keeps it.
And how does it lose millions in revenue anyway? I pay for a 6 gig data bucket. If I go over said data bucket, I pay through the nose for it.
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Simply really.
Count how many smart phone users there are that purchased
a smart phone that may have the capability to (tether) either wireless
or wired, and add $20.00 per head on a plan...
In other words, companies don't want you to use your wireless phone's data
to operate other wireless enabled devices *unless* you pay a premium to do so.
Here in the US we have "unlimited" data plans when using the phone.
Verizon Wireless, and other network providers want that extra coin since you
are operating a device on their network.
All Day On XDA said:
My samsung galaxy s comes with a Wireless AP mode, stock. Extremely useful.
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I am surprised your phone can be used to connect other devices without
an additional charge? What is a wireless AP mode?
Is it an app you just toggle, and then use?
Or must you take additional steps to enable this feature?
I searched the net and I found a video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jIJRu9gXvU
You also need additional software that did not come preinstalled.
I'd also like to add that outside of Europe this does not work...
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I am surprised your phone can be used to connect other devices without
an additional charge?
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Depends on the carrier, i guess.
What is a wireless AP mode?
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AP = Access Point
Is it an app you just toggle, and then use?
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Yes, u can even set WPA Encryption.
Or must you take additional steps to enable this feature?
I searched the net and I found a video here:
(url)
You also need additional software that did not come preinstalled.
I'd also like to add that outside of Europe this does not work...
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USB Tethering works oob on Ubuntu (just like my Desire).
The i9000 comes with Wifi, Bluetooth & USB Tethering. Dunno about the Vibrant. I'm from Europe.
SigmunDroid said:
I am surprised your phone can be used to connect other devices without
an additional charge? What is a wireless AP mode?
Is it an app you just toggle, and then use?
You also need additional software that did not come preinstalled.
I'd also like to add that outside of Europe this does not work...
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I am in Europe, yes. The wireless access point is simply like connectify on your phone. However, my carrier, O2, some how detected that I was tethering my laptop, and after a couple of days, managed to prevent that working. But my girlfriend's desire continued to connect successfully.
It is a default app that you simply toggle on or off.
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I use anetshare to make my hero a wireless AP. It works great but it will kill your battery. Here's the link to where I got it: http://www.mediafire.com/?w3gtlmmymzz
I have the DX with verizon wireless. It came with wireless hotspot installed but i would have to pay for it in order to utilize it. I rooted and now use Barnacle located on the Market. Have to have root access as well as busybox installed for it to work though. But yes 2.1 and 2.2 come with it stock out of the box. You just have to subscribe for it to work. But I like it free . I have used barnacle for up to 3 Laptops at the same time and it works great for me.
This thread will be the bounty thread for the willing developer to MOD the app for the new Pioneer Appradio 2
To collect the bounty discussed in this thread the Developer must modify the Appradio Android Application or create a new application to allow Full touch control of the Display Mirroring. Currently the Appradio 2 accepts HDMI input via mini-hdmi or MHL.
Donations to the bounty:
artnsx (avic411) = $100
uribees (xda) = $25
franklin270h (xda) = $100
xavenged (xda) = $100
outcastrc (xda) = $100
baldcyclops (xda) = $25
beestee (xda) = $25
shaxs (xda) = $100
defe (xda) = $25
Gelroos (xda) = $150
TLS2000 (xda) = $25
amblix (xda) = $100
Software Guy (xda) = $50
Please share the thread and get the word out!
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I recently picked up an Appradio 2 from Pioneer. The premise is good but the excecution is poor IMO.
The app seems overly complicated and quite frankly pisses me off the more i use it.
Now what i would like to know is if the app can be modified to just offer control of the MHL mirror. That would be ideal for me. At points within the app it allows you to control the screen via the touch screen on the appradio 2. Then at certain places it doesn't allow any touch or only touch portions of the screen.
I have very minimal knowledge of programming for android so i cannot tackle it myself. Im also willing to start a bounty for this as well if someone shows some interest.
Here is the apk: Link
Anyone up for the task?
I just got one of these earlier today. I was very excited at the "Android" support. I haven't installed it yet (buying a washer and dryer takes forever!), but I hope to do it tomorrow.
Did you do your install or did you have somebody do it for you?
Also, have you messed with navigation through phone at all? What cables does it need? I know it needs an MHL for my SGS2, but where can I find the cable that plugs into the back of the unit?
Its a simple straight forward install. The cable in the back is a full size HDMI that comes out of the mhl adapter.
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Gotcha. I need to pick one up for my sgs2.
Where did you put your nav antenna and your microphone?
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The best place for you will be wildly different but I put my mic in the factory VW location and the GPS inside the dash
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So I was really excited about getting this, but it sounds like everyone that's gotten it has been disappointed. I'm interested in whether anyone really likes it.
Mine ended up being broken (non-working bluetooth).
Returned it and got a dnx7180 with nav and good ****.
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So I was really excited about getting this, but it sounds like everyone that's gotten it has been disappointed. I'm interested in whether anyone really likes it.
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As was i and to be honest i am sort of disappointed. However, the potential is there for this unit. I believe with the right modes to the app and/or unit it will be GREAT!
The system is similar as the MIMICS system. It mirrors the display of the phone via MHL and uses bluetooth to communicate screen touches. If the app can be modded so that it allows you to navigate to more than just the appradio app then it would be perfect.
Someone that knows what they are doing should be able to mod the app accordingly and unlock the true potential of this device.
I'm sure they will hear the complaints and make Appradio 3 or 4 better. I will definitely give it another try then. The lack of compatible android apps is disappointing.
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The 'appradio2' from pioneer is just starting and is getting more and more android fans every day.
Altho this is a device with great potential, the user experience is indeed a little dissapointing.
Where should I begin?
Well, first the SPH-DA100 officially only supports android 3.2 and not even all phones running it too (a list of compatible devices is @ the Pioneer website)
I successfully connected my Galaxy Nexus i9250 (running ICS 4.0.4 since this weekend) and it works!
The perfect picture for this device should be when you can control your whole phone from the screen of the appradio. For now, only approved apps can be controlled.
I follow MKVFTW when he says that someone who knows what he's doing should rewrite the apk. but for now we can only wait for Pioneer to make another version.
I do not doubt that Pioneer will wait for an appradio 3 or 4 to make things better
The current hardware can handle it.
Or does everyone here buys a new phone when the next android version comes out???
I managed to get a custom background wallpaper on the device, that is a start isn't it?
*link not allowed yet --> search youtube for appradiomodder
Let's keep going where our apps take us !!
Cheers!
I already got rid of mine. It barely worked, such a waste.
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Sorry to hear yours broke;
Mine works pretty good tbh. It rarely crashes and when it does, it only takes 20 secs. and the app restarts itself.
Bluetooth never worked from the second I opened the box. I'm using a compatible phone as well.
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I'm currently looking in to the apk.
Seems like there a lot of things there wich aren't even active for the moment.
So I think a version 1.0.3 is coming soon
According to Pioneer the app manufacurers shoud update their apps to be compatible with the sph-DA100. I don't understand this.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it possible to connect a bluetooth mouse + keyboard to your android phone? (I did this ages ago allready on my Pocket-pc)
A touchscreen (even multitouch) works by the same principals no?
I think Pioneer's it-devision is taking things to far at once and they should re-think the whole app. I'm not that experienced with coding (I'm a modder, not a creator), but from Android 3.2 and up (when the device supports mhl or hdmi out) the procedure call for android.permission.BLUETOOTH and android.permission.EXTSCREEN is the same for all devices right?
Hawt tip for any Pioneer engineer happening to stumble on this thread::
Take any android 3.2+ device with HDMI/MHL out
Connect this to a tv using HDMI/MHL to HDMI cable
Take any bluetooth mouse and connect it to your phone (might need a FREE driver app on older phones)
Take any bluetooth keyboard and connect it to your phone (might need a FREE driver app on older phones)
Enjoy manipulating ALL APPS + PHONE GUI on your tv
Cheers!
They currently have something interesting going on in the apple camp with Appradio Extensions 2.0
Appradiomodder, you are correct with the bluetooth. Most if not all android devices now adays support bluetooth devices.
The apk does what it should do when it comes to sending touch commands through the receiver screen to the phone via bluetooth. The problem is that the apk restricts it to certain locations.
That looks promising
But I noticed its for the appradio 1 not 2.
Respect for the guy's work tho! That requires a bit more skills than modding..
I'm not quite sure yet if its the appradioapp that does the restrictions. It could also be an extension is needed from the 'approved app'
I'm gonna check the apk's Carmediaplayer and Carkeyboard this weekend.
I feel it could be both. When you are at the appradio home screen and try to pull down the notification bar it wont do anything, yet in the app on the phone you can pull down no problem.
I found out a couple of things:
It is not possible to make the phone GUI work with the appradio for now. for that to work, a new AppradioApp should be written.
The approved apps contain extra code(smali) wich tunnel the received info (Location info, Parkinginfo, touchlayer info, ...) from the radio and translate that to the app itself.
The approved apps contain extra permissions to communicate with the appradio/-app
If any experienced programmer would want to have a look at this, I'd be happy to share what I found out allready.
- Background picture can be customized (only in app mode)
- ANY app can appear in the approved apps list on the radio and they CAN be started by pressing the radio's screen
The search goes on...
Appradiomodder said:
- ANY app can appear in the approved apps list on the radio and they CAN be started by pressing the radio's screen
The search goes on...
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Can you expand on this? Simply starting an app from the appradio 2 is one step closer.
The MAIN thing i need/want right now is google music. That is my primary source of audible goodness. Everything else is fine that is stock for me. I just figured it would be the easiest route to mirror.
FYI - in case anyone is interested, I was able to easily tether my TF700 to my Android phone over bluetooth. It'll even share your phones wifi connection via bluetooth! Extremely easy to setup and it just works...
1. Install FoxFi on your phone
2. Install "PDANet for Tablets" on your TF700 (available for free in Play Store)
3. Select "Activate Bluetooth DUN" in FoxFi on the phone
4. Run PDANet for Tablets on the TF700 and configure it for bluetooth.
5. Simple pair the tablet and phone from within PDANet for Tablets.
6. That's it - you'll be tethered to your phone via bluetooth!
I can't believe how well it works.... Enjoy!
Also - Can do the same thing for wifi tethering as well. The nice thing about bluetooth tethering though is that you can actually share the wifi connection on your phone via bluetooth (something you can't do with normal wifi tethering)... Although, I guess if your phone can connect to wifi, you could just connect your tablet directly to the same wifi! But, it works nonetheless!
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Are you saying that you can use your phones mobile broadband connection (3g or 4g) on your tablet with this method?
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Are you saying that you can use your phones mobile broadband connection (3g or 4g) on your tablet with this method?
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Absolutely. It works flawlessly and without jumping through any hoops.
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Is this for those who arnt able to do a mobile hotspot? Trying to understand the advantages. You also mentioned sharing your wifi connect...don't understand the need there either. Not trying to be a smart ass by any means, just trying to understand why BT over hotspot.
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Is this for those who arnt able to do a mobile hotspot? Trying to understand the advantages. You also mentioned sharing your wifi connect...don't understand the need there either. Not trying to be a smart ass by any means, just trying to understand why BT over hotspot.
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Well, if you mean the "paid" hotspot, this method is free. Plus, bluetooth tethering should be easier on the battery as well.
Agreed about with sharing wifi over bluetooth - like I said, it works, but if your phone could connect to wifi, your TF700 should be able to connect directly to the wifi as well. Only purpose for that would be if your TF was not "allowed" to connect to the wifi due to some policy (but your work-supplied phone could) - you could just connect to your phone for wifi access...
But again, the main purpose would be for free tethering (instead of paying a monthly fee).
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I paired my phone to my tablet without any of the apps mentioned and was able to get online using the phone's 3G connection. I do have an older phone (DroidX), maybe that makes a difference as far as not needing PDANet, etc.
Forgot not everyone has the ability to do free hotspot. My phone hasn't had a stock ROM since the first handful of stable ROMs were available.
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Also, just thought of a use for the share wifi feature. AT&T has alot of free hotspots that are free to ATT devices only, often found at McDonalds. There is often regular free wifi, but the ATT only is less crowded and I usually see faster speeds. I suppose in this scenerio it would be useful too.
It's useful if your traveling with kids and they want to download a new app or something. I have actually found quite a few uses including at work to use it. I just use the hotspot though. The only bad part is that it kills your battery FAST so make sure you have a charger.
I just use Widgetsoid on my Galaxy Nexus to tether.
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It's useful if your traveling with kids and they want to download a new app or something. I have actually found quite a few uses including at work to use it. I just use the hotspot though. The only bad part is that it kills your battery FAST so make sure you have a charger.
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I have a 5200mah on my note so it'll stay live and kicking for awhile. May have to try BT and see if it's any better on battery then BT.
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I have a 5200mah on my note so it'll stay live and kicking for awhile. May have to try BT and see if it's any better on battery then BT.
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Bluetooth should be better on the battery - please post your results...
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I set up a profile with tasker so bluetooth tethering to my phone (running cm9) is automatically activated as soon as i turn on bt on the tablet. Works great.
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Am I missing something here? I thought this was a standard feature or is this method required for carriers that ban tethering?
I have a galaxy s2 running Samsung stock 4.03 on Telstra Australia and I tether by Bluetooth all the time to my Tf700t by just enabling it in the phone tethering options, pair devices and connect. Done. No hacks or apps required
you dont need any of those apps just sync phone and tablet via bluetooth and it will ask if you want bluetooth to share internet
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you dont need any of those apps just sync phone and tablet via bluetooth and it will ask if you want bluetooth to share internet
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Either I'm missing something or this is *not* a "Standard" feature for all carriers. In my case, I'm using a "pre-paid" phone from VIrgin Mobile. It's $35/month for unlimited everything (except phone minutes - you get 300 anytime minutes). I certainly can "pair" my devices via bluetooth, but I don't get an option to share my internet (and even thought the devices did "pair", they will not "connect" to each other).
I do know that "tethering" was an extra monthly option in my case (an extra $15/month option!).
Again, I don't see any way to tether without using these apps. The phone itself is an HTC EVO V 4G (re-badged EVO 3D) - If I try to enable the wifi "portable hotspot mode" I get an error and it just won't work. Cannot find a way to share the internet via blutooth either (without said apps).
So, I do believe that this method will be useful for some as I don't believe that you can tether for free with all carriers.
Again, unless I'm missing something!
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I do know that "tethering" was an extra monthly option in my case (an extra $15/month option!).
Again, I don't see any way to tether without using these apps. The phone itself is an HTC EVO V 4G (re-badged EVO 3D) - If I try to enable the wifi "portable hotspot mode" I get an error and it just won't work. Cannot find a way to share the internet via blutooth either (without said apps).
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I tried to tether my iPhone with optus prepaid and got an error saying it was not activated by the carrier so I am sure android must have this carrier dependant feature in place. I had to install a hack on my iPhone to get around it so I can why you may need apps to get around it for Android as well. Just thankful my carrier allows free tethering a stupid idea IMO to not allow it
Sorry a bit OT, but how does one enter the pin code for BT pairing the Asus? (I have a GNote)...I get them to pair but not to connect...I type the number keys on the asus dock and nothing happens...
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Sorry a bit OT, but how does one enter the pin code for BT pairing the Asus? (I have a GNote)...I get them to pair but not to connect...I type the number keys on the asus dock and nothing happens...
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As I mentioned, I use wifi tethering. I also have the GNote (ATT Version, I717) running King Kang AOKP rom and never have an issue. If you flash ROMs you may be better off just using wifi as it'll autoconnect when you pop the wifi from your phone and no pairing and connecting and pin code mess. Just a thought.
Having no problems with built in bt tether....to my sensation
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Widgetsoid is probably a little better. You just create a widget for portable wifi htspot and turn it on. I use it on my galaxy nexus.
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I find it pretty much useless.
It doesn't support my system (I use Windows Media Center and its remote). It doesn't offer a TV Grid. It tries too hard to guess what I want to watch when my viewing patterns are kind of unpredictable.
I tried it on my father's system and it didn't know his TV either. (He also has Media Center - but uses a real TV, so double fail - I watch TV on my computer montor, so I don't have a TV).
Peel doesn't seem to have any way to learn a new remote - and repeated emails to the company that makes it has resulted in no replies at all.
The IR remote capability was one thing that excited me about the Note - now I'm feeling a bit disappointed by the weak software they included.
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I find it pretty much useless.
It doesn't support my system (I use Windows Media Center and its remote). It doesn't offer a TV Grid. It tries too hard to guess what I want to watch when my viewing patterns are kind of unpredictable.
I tried it on my father's system and it didn't know his TV either. (He also has Media Center - but uses a real TV, so double fail - I watch TV on my computer montor, so I don't have a TV).
Peel doesn't seem to have any way to learn a new remote - and repeated emails to the company that makes it has resulted in no replies at all.
The IR remote capability was one thing that excited me about the Note - now I'm feeling a bit disappointed by the weak software they included.
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I have samsung TV's and Direct TV and it works very well. Do not use it all the time but every time I have gone to use it I have had no problems. I have two rooms set up on it for two different systems.
I happen to have a Samsung LED TV that it works on..
So along with the Samsung Remote, and Unified Remote apps the Note 10.1 its my new remote for my home theater!
Works for me too for our living room system and mancave system. Although, it isn't necessarily a replacement for the Logitech Universal remotes I have.
I didn't think I'd use it (I have Google TV boxes) but I've started using it for the programming guide. I have a couple different TV brands and it works with all of them. It also works with my Yamaha, Denon, and Onkyo receivers and multiple different Motorola cable boxes. It's not very intuitive but it's pretty cool once you figure it out. And you can set what categories it displays to minimize selection clutter.
I was really disappointed with this app as it first will with a sky satellite box in the UK. I emailed the developer who replied after a couple of weeks to say that it is for American and Canadian users only at present and they are working hard on an international version....thanks Samsung for marketing this somewhat useless app for most of the world.
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It rules. Cause my kids don't know it's me controlling the tv so I get to mess with them
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works just fine with my home theater setup... Mitsubishi HDTV, Onkyo receiver, Panasonic BD player, Comcast box.
The original version of Peel was kind of basic, but they upgraded it recently to include channel controls and whatnot, so it's a bit more useful than it was.
Do I use it? No, not really. I know when and what I want to watch, so it's more of a "look at what my tablet does!" feature more than anything. It's neat and all, but yeah, just no real need for it.
I tried using it but it will not work with my Dish Network sat box VIP 722. sent email to developer but got no useful help.
I love it. On time warner with a Mitsubishi TV and Yamaha surround sound. Use it about 75% of the time I'm watching TV
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I tried using it but it will not work with my Dish Network sat box VIP 722. sent email to developer but got no useful help.
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That is because that box works with uhf signals for the remote if im not mistaken. If that is the box for dual rooms. It should work with the primary tuner however.
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I have samsung TV's and Direct TV and it works very well. Do not use it all the time but every time I have gone to use it I have had no problems. I have two rooms set up on it for two different systems.
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I happen to have a Samsung LED TV that it works on..
So along with the Samsung Remote, and Unified Remote apps the Note 10.1 its my new remote for my home theater!
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Well, I'd be pretty surprised if it didn't support Samsung TVs and components since it's included on - you know - a Samsung tablet.
That being said, I guess what's bothering me is the lack of any way to 'train' the remote. There are very few other remote TV apps out there.
It's one of those cases where if you have a TV or system they support, live in the right country and find their approach to TV good, it's a good app. If any of those are false, it's pretty much useless. I'm also kind of disappointed by the terrible customer support Peel seems to offer.
Ah well, time to dig into the kernel code and see if I can write something a bit more generic and easier to use - with remote training capability.
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That being said, I guess what's bothering me is the lack of any way to 'train' the remote.
Ah well, time to dig into the kernel code and see if I can write something a bit more generic and easier to use - with remote training capability.
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Sounds interesting. I originally thought I could clone other remotes or whatever. But peel just scans through its own data base of codes. Which seems to be limited.
Have you tried mentioning the limitation on the playstore review? I see alot of developers quick to respond up there.
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That is because that box works with uhf signals for the remote if im not mistaken. If that is the box for dual rooms. It should work with the primary tuner however.
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yes it is the box for dual rooms and I set the primary receiver to use IR but it didn't work. I have read about the problem on other websites also. Not sure why the developer hasn't updated the software to fix the problem yet.
I find it pretty useful. Works on my TV (vizio) & with my cable box (cable vision/io, scientific Atlanta is the brand).
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Sounds interesting. I originally thought I could clone other remotes or whatever. But peel just scans through its own data base of codes. Which seems to be limited.
Have you tried mentioning the limitation on the playstore review? I see alot of developers quick to respond up there.
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Definitely worth a try...
I see a lot of people are using this, but I got nowhere with it. The first thing it tried to do was turn on my TV. It's a Toshiba flatscreen (only a couple of years old) and didn't work. It prompted me to send a message to the developers. Okay, great. But then it didn't prompt me to do anything else, and I can't figure out how to get it to do anything else. I'd like to try to get it to turn on my receiver or Time Warner cable box. Or use the guides everyone's talking about. But I can't get past the "turning on the TV part."
What am I missing?
i have an Olevia 537H that it was giving me some problems with. the first code it sent worked, or so i thought, but then i couldn't change the source, up/down onthe channels, so i reset it. this time i skipped the first one that turned the tv on, and the next code that worked i went with it. works flawless now, source, etc. i don't necessarily like the scrolling through the shows on because it seems to "grip" the screen past the show i want, or go back one, but it works pretty decently. my remote for the tv sucks so this gives me what i need.
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I find it pretty much useless.
It doesn't support my system (I use Windows Media Center and its remote). It doesn't offer a TV Grid. It tries too hard to guess what I want to watch when my viewing patterns are kind of unpredictable.
I tried it on my father's system and it didn't know his TV either. (He also has Media Center - but uses a real TV, so double fail - I watch TV on my computer montor, so I don't have a TV).
Peel doesn't seem to have any way to learn a new remote - and repeated emails to the company that makes it has resulted in no replies at all.
The IR remote capability was one thing that excited me about the Note - now I'm feeling a bit disappointed by the weak software they included.
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I use WMC as well. Try using this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.MarkusGehlhaar.MCC&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImRlLk1hcmt1c0dlaGxoYWFyLk1DQyJd
it frigging rules on Android for controlling WMC!
Yup. I love messing with people in our house... LOL
TIP:
1. Turn on TV and set it to a channel with no signal, i.e. grey screen.
2. Turn it off.
3. Place the remote on the table or anywhere someone can see it.
4. Hide somewhere.
5. Turn on the TV using your amazing Samsug GALAXY Note 10.1.
6. ???
7. Profit!
So far I've had no success with Synergy R73, JellyWiz, or stock odexed roms. I used Triangle Away with all of them, but no go. Synergy R73 (ICS) and stock ICS will connect via "Wifi Direct" in the settings, but the necessary "Allshare Cast" in the settings is missing, so even though I'm technically connected, nothing happens on the TV screen. JellyWiz has Allshare Cast in the settings, but it won't even recognize the dongle when it scans for it.
Has anyone with a Verizon SG3 gotten the dongle to work? If so, what rom and what's the secret?
Got a bit closer with Synergy JB Beta. It will recognize the dongle and connect, but always disconnects 10 seconds later. Frustrating that they're now selling an $80 device that doesn't seem to work with Verizon roms, but is marketed as working on the Verizon SG3.
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Got a bit closer with Synergy JB Beta. It will recognize the dongle and connect, but always disconnects 10 seconds later. Frustrating that they're now selling an $80 device that doesn't seem to work with Verizon roms, but is marketed as working on the Verizon SG3.
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I'm in the same boat. I can't find a VZW ROM that works. Jellywiz latest connects but disconnects in 10 secs. What us up with VZW siii that it would not be available? Might this have anything to do with VZW locking down the boot loader? Also based on the product availability it says it only works for sprint and t mobile versions not art or Verizon. Odd.
I was going to purchase this device, but instead opted not to because I wasn't sure if it would work with our vzw gs3. Interestingly though, on Samsung's website it indicates:
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AllShare Cast Wireless Hub
**Compatible with the Samsung Galaxy S III (T-Mobile and Sprint), Galaxy Note II and Galaxy Note 10.1.
Compatibility may require the latest software update. To verify your device is compatible go into Wireless and Network Settings and verify that AllShare Cast is present in your menu options.
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I don't see that option under my 'wireless and network settings'.
Like you, I wonder why not? This is really mind boggling.
*Hmmmmm*
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So far I've had no success with Synergy R73, JellyWiz, or stock odexed roms. I used Triangle Away with all of them, but no go. Synergy R73 (ICS) and stock ICS will connect via "Wifi Direct" in the settings, but the necessary "Allshare Cast" in the settings is missing, so even though I'm technically connected, nothing happens on the TV screen. JellyWiz has Allshare Cast in the settings, but it won't even recognize the dongle when it scans for it.
Has anyone with a Verizon SG3 gotten the dongle to work? If so, what rom and what's the secret?
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Did you try it on stock rom?
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Did you try it on stock rom?
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Tried it on 7 roms so far. Stock rom is ICS, which doesn't have Allshare Cast in Settings, so that's a no go.
Has anyone had any luck with this? I also just purchased the dongle but am wondering if I should return it unopened.
Just for kicks I contacted Samsung support to see if they have any plans to support AllShare Cast in future updates. It does not appear to be so. Here is a transcript of the conversation.
Gary S: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?
Visitor: Hi, I was wondering if there are plans to have support for AllShare Cast on the Verizon Galaxy S3?
Gary S: May I place you on hold for 3 minutes while I work in this regards?
Visitor: sure
Gary S: Thank you for waiting. I'll be with you in just a moment.
Visitor: no problem
Gary S: I will be right with you.
Gary S: Thank you for being on hold.
Gary S: I'm sorry for the delay.
Visitor: no problem
Gary S: We do not support AllShare Cast.
Gary S: We only support AllShare feature on the device.
Visitor: So there are no plans to make it available like it is on the other S3 models?
Gary S: Yes.
Visitor: I know it is not currently supported, am wondering if it will ever be. I just purchased the AllShare Cast dongle and will need to return it if so
Gary S: I'm sorry about that,
Visitor: ok thank you
Gary S: You're welcome. Is there anything else I can assist you with?
Visitor: No that's it thank you
Gary S: I wish, I could have helped you in this regard. I'm sorry about that.
Visitor: That's ok, you answered the question. That's the best that could be done!
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I just grabbed one of these AllShare Cast dongles last night on the Sammy website for 50% off deal...And I, too, have a VZW GS3, currently running Synergy...
So, still a no-go for everyone? Hopefully, soon, one of the mighty mighty devs around here will work it out!
(Fingers crossed)
What exactly is All-Share cast compared to All Share play? I have a WDTV Live device hooked up to my TV and when I'm connected to my home wifi I can stream anything on my GS3 to my WDTV.
For those that are able to connect and then drops out. If you have lockscreen unlock toggle set to unlock. Keeps lock screen disabled when screen off. Don't know if it works for Share Cast but does keep tether running full speed. When lock screen locks drops tether speed from 600kb/s to 10 kb/s. Would do same to Share Cast.
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What exactly is All-Share cast compared to All Share play? I have a WDTV Live device hooked up to my TV and when I'm connected to my home wifi I can stream anything on my GS3 to my WDTV.
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I believe, (someone correct me if I'm wrong) that Allshare Play uses the DLNA standard to share media over wi-fi whereas Allshare Cast uses wi-fi direct so it doesn't need to be connected to a wi-fi network and can basically mirror whatever is on your devices screen.
I noticed that the release notes for the new Sprint JB OTA mention Allshare Cast. I'm wondering if it will work for us if/when the devs port it. I'm going to hold out returning mine for now as I'm hopeful one of these awesome devs will figure it out.
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Allshare cast is jellybean feature. Allshare cast is miracast. U ether need the Allshare cast dongle or widi 3.5 device. (Widi 3.5 now supports miracast) Allshare cast is WiFi alliance miracast certified. The only phones out now that is miracast capable is s3, note II, and the LG optimus G. If you already have a miracast capable tv like certain Samsungs wifi tv with miracast built in which they call Allshare cast than u use it without the Allshare cast dongle. Samsung dongle, built in miracast tv or widi 3.5 device will work
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AllShare Cast works on the new leaked Verizon JB ROM!
If you have any issues getting it to work, use Triangle Away to reset your flash counter, reboot then profit.
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Not working on the new Synergy rom, which is based on the new JB leak. Did Triangle Away. I guess I'll try a different version of the leak.
No luck with latest jellywiz. Jdiamond7, please let us know exactly which rom u got to work. A link would also be appreciated. Are u rooted?
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No luck with latest jellywiz. Jdiamond7, please let us know exactly which rom u got to work. A link would also be appreciated. Are u rooted?
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I was using Jellywiz RLS11 and yes I'm leaving it rooted. I am however having mixed results now. It worked great the other night, but now it's hit or miss. I'm not sure if the issue is with the ROM or the dongle.
I'll try to play around with it some more and see if there was anything particular that made it work. It doesn't appear to be so though... seems pretty random at this point.
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Some more specifics:
The dongle and the phone are able to find each other no problem. They begin to connect and the phone will actually indicate that the connection is made. The dongle however will continue to indicate that it is connecting for a few more seconds. At this point it will either display my screen or fail altogether. If it fails the dongle will stop connecting and the phone will pop-up the message, "Current AllShare Cast connection will end".
I've noticed that it is more likely to succeed if I try it immediately after rebooting my phone, but that isn't a guarantee it will work either.
I was able to get the dongle to work today on synergy 4.1.1 r90...
But it was kinda finicky...I did have to reboot once due to that disconnecting message, but then worked again...
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I was able to get the dongle to work today on synergy 4.1.1 r90...
But it was kinda finicky...I did have to reboot once due to that disconnecting message, but then worked again...
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Just sent you a pm. I bought the Dongle today and I'm trying to avoid returning it. Did you use triangle away to get it to work? Also can you let us know exact steps? I'm on r90 synergy and it's not working for me.
Edit::: after some digging around I was able to connect to the Samsung allshare cast dongle on synergy r90. It wasn't connecting at first so I did some reading and decided to download triangle away and hit reset flash counter. I did that and tried connecting to the dongle and was able to connect quickly and watched a YouTube vid as well as browse the Web and mess around with some settings with no issues. Thank you to greevedog who verified it worked for him.
I have a pioneer appradio 2 that I'm going to try this out on cause I keep having major snow issues with the mhl adapter 5 pin to 11 from Samsung. Hopefully it does the trick and audio doesn't sound too bad.
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I'm glad you guys are able to get it to work. I'm still having no success at all, despite Triangle Away. Currently on Synergy R90 and continue to have it disconnect after trying to connect. Would those who have it working please post the firmware version of your dongle (it shows on the TV screen before you connect). Does anyone know if there's even a way to update the dongle's firmware?
Got it to work finally! The key for me seems to be rebooting the phone and dongle at same time. Reset button didn't cut it on dongle--had to unplug it and plug back in. Hopefully future updates will improve connection reliability, but nice to have it working.Once connected, it seems to stay that way and works well for everything except action games. There's a little too much lag for those.