Pixel 2 - Unlocking Verizon Bootloader? - Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers

Hello, all! I'm posting this as sort of a placeholder until any Verizon Pixel 2 owners post in the coming days and months. With the original Pixel/XL having a locked bootloader 7.1.1 and later, I would like to see if it will be more of the same, or is there a way to unlock for the Pixel 2/2 XL?
@mods - if the issue ends up being the same as the OG Pixel thread (https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/unlocking-verizon-bootloader-t3557290), feel free to merge them.

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[Q] anyone know if the verizon's razr hd bootloader will be cracked?

hi as the title says i was just wondering if someone is or plans to work on a crack for the verizon version of the razr hd... i plan on getting one tomorrow but it would seem the developer version is only available without a plan and i just started one. if theres any alternative let me know please and thank you
If you can afford it just buy the Dev. You can just switch it over to your current plan.
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yea thats exactly it i can't afford it =( o well thanks though
Other than that then Verizon has no plans to let their normal HD be unlocked. Maybe the devs can come up with something?
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can it be cracked? Definitely, just look at the Galaxy S3. But will enough developers get on the Razr HD to make it happen? That idk. I don't remember the first Razr getting cracked but rather kexec releases which still brings custom roms. I think that is a great possibility
DertyDOH said:
can it be cracked? Definitely, just look at the Galaxy S3. But will enough developers get on the Razr HD to make it happen? That idk. I don't remember the first Razr getting cracked but rather kexec releases which still brings custom roms. I think that is a great possibility
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Samsung bootloaders vs Motorola's big difference... kexec still doesn't fully work on the old RAZR
And they are coming out with more and more snooping software
Its not looking good for a unlocked boot loader on Verizon... sucks cause I'm in that boat...and I hated that with the RAZR
We need some killer devs bottom line
This phone is sick I'm surprised more people are not here yet
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lucidvtec said:
This phone is sick I'm surprised more people are not here yet
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The phone just came to market about a week and a half ago, and isn't cheap. Patience is a virtue I'm sure it will happen, this phone is mad ridiculous. Haven't even rooted it yet and loving everything about it.
I'm sorry if this has been posted somewhere else on this forum, but I couldn't find it anywhere.
djrbliss has supposedly found an exploit to unlock the bootloader on most current Motorola phones, including possibly the XT926 as some people in the thread have claimed. Here's the link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32888705#post32888705
Can anyone else back up this information? I'd have thought this would have made a bigger deal here, since the biggest downside of my RAZR MAXX HD, in my opinion, is the locked bootloader.
Does the motofail2go unlock the bootloader, or just root the phone? I was under the impression that the two were completely different beasts...
Yea I was under the impression that is the root exploit. He mentioned unlocked bootloader because you don't need an exploit to root those.
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GoClifGo05 said:
Yea I was under the impression that is the root exploit. He mentioned unlocked bootloader because you don't need an exploit to root those.
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Ah, I see. I saw it linked from another article somewhere saying that it was a bootloader unlock. I guess I didn't pay enough attention to the thread itself after i saw the words unlocked bootloader in the OP. Sorry about that.
bootloader unlock
Recently went out and picked up a moto razr maxx hd only to find that moto is no allowing US models to be unlocked through their site. I went through all of the steps to get the device id: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b only to find out I cant unlock because my phone was purchased in the US:
HOW DO I TELL IF MY DEVICE HAS AN UNLOCKABLE/RE-LOCKABLE BOOTLOADER?
This depends on a few factors. First is whether the device ships with a bootloader that is capable of being unlocked or re-locked. Second is whether the wireless carrier that sells the device allows the bootloader to be unlocked, as each of our operator partners has their own policy. As new devices are released, please check the bootloader introduction page. You will be able to check whether your device shipped with an unlockable bootloader. We will be adding devices to this list regularly.
As of August 2012, the only Motorola devices which can be unlocked are:
Photon Q 4G LTE (Sprint)
RAZR Developer Edition (Europe Only)
XOOM
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...ICE_HAS_AN_UNLOCKABLE/RE-LOCKABLE_BOOTLOADER?
Heres to hoping things get sorted, I'll gladly donate to whomever can do it effectively...

[Q] Dev edition/unlockable recommendations

This KK upgrade for the RAZR MAXX HD has got me thinking about its replacement. I took one too many OTAs without unlocking the bootloader and that's made every update a game of restore-the-root. I really love this phone, but I'm getting tired of that.
I've noticed that a lot of posters in the threads I read have other phones, so I'm asking for a recommendation. If you bought a phone today, either a developer's edition or at least with an unlockable bootloader, what would you buy? And why?
I'm on Verizon and I'm not ready to change carriers, so that has to be considered.
Serial_Noob said:
This KK upgrade for the RAZR MAXX HD has got me thinking about its replacement. I took one too many OTAs without unlocking the bootloader and that's made every update a game of restore-the-root. I really love this phone, but I'm getting tired of that.
I've noticed that a lot of posters in the threads I read have other phones, so I'm asking for a recommendation. If you bought a phone today, either a developer's edition or at least with an unlockable bootloader, what would you buy? And why?
I'm on Verizon and I'm not ready to change carriers, so that has to be considered.
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Well, your best bet is to find the Droid RAZR HD Developer Edition which has a bootloader that you can lock and unlock. Those you have to purchase full price ($599) because Verizon won't subsidize that phone.
BTW, there is no MAXX Dev Edition, so if you're coming from a MAXX, it means you will only have 16gb of internal storage as opposed to the MAXX's 32gb of storage as well as a smaller battery, but the RAZR HD battery life is nothing to sneeze at. It's pretty darned good.
To try and find a non-dev edition of the Droid RAZR HD/MAXX HD that can still be unlocked is going to be tough, unless you can find someone selling you one that has it unlocked already, but you better research and get proof before shelling out the money. You could try and get one that isn't unlocked and hope beyond hope that it unlocks, but most have now had the update to fix the exploit applied at the factory.
And just because someone is selling you a used one that purports to have the correct version that allows unlocking doesn't mean it will. The phone could have had the exploit patch applied and then flashed back to the previous version to make it appear to be the version you can unlock. But it won't unlock anymore because the exploit that allowed unlocking was present on one of the protected areas of the phone. Once it's patched, you cannot make it go back to a previous version.
My RAZR HD replaced a RAZR MAXX that had a swelling battery. Verizon did a warranty swap and since they no longer stocked the RAZR MAXX (XT912), they replaced it with the RAZR HD. I discovered that mine had a version (which at the time they were releasing with the later version with the exploit patched) that could possibly be still unlocked. I did what SamuriHL told me to and lo and behold, I had an unlocked bootloader. I got very lucky indeed.
I would say your best bet is to find a Dev Edition to buy if you don't mind downgrading from a MAXX HD. Otherwise, research well and find a MAXX HD non-dev edition that has it's bootloader already unlocked. But, those will probably be sold at a higher price.
HTC One (M8) - Well built phone, great specs, 2 year support, s-off, nothing more needs to be said.
ATTACK said:
HTC One (M8) - Well built phone, great specs, 2 year support, s-off, nothing more needs to be said.
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Except the developer edition is not available on Verizon and I'm not ready to move to another carrier. Does the carrier version have an unlockable bootloader?
Serial_Noob said:
Except the developer edition is not available on Verizon and I'm not ready to move to another carrier. Does the carrier version have an unlockable bootloader?
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Yes, Firewater (S-off) and WeakSauce (Root)

Bootloader Unlock There is A Hope

Hope more development will arrive to our G Flex 2 soon
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_now_ship...and_it_is_starting_with_the_g4-news-12496.php
Wishful thinking...
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We have no plans to support bootloader unlock in previously launched models including LG G Flex 2.
We apologize for any inconvenience that this may cause.
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LG Developer site Team
dadaa1 said:
Wishful thinking...
Hello,
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We have no plans to support bootloader unlock in previously launched models including LG G Flex 2.
We apologize for any inconvenience that this may cause.
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LG Developer site Team
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grrrrrrrrrrr bad news.......the phone is officially dead(developers perspective)
kutulu32 said:
grrrrrrrrrrr bad news.......the phone is officially dead(developers perspective)
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This is such complete bull. I don't know what is wrong with these companies. Why won't they give us the freedom to use our devices as we choose. Are they that scared of making a loss? They made a brilliant device, but they don't want to support it. What is the point in doing that? I'm tempted to see whether I can sell my G Flex 2 and just buy myself a Xiaomi Note Pro from an overseas company, or something. I love my phone, but I don't want to stay stuck on 5.0.1 for the next two years.
gomhtog said:
This is such complete bull. I don't know what is wrong with these companies. Why won't they give us the freedom to use our devices as we choose. Are they that scared of making a loss? They made a brilliant device, but they don't want to support it. What is the point in doing that? I'm tempted to see whether I can sell my G Flex 2 and just buy myself a Xiaomi Note Pro from an overseas company, or something. I love my phone, but I don't want to stay stuck on 5.0.1 for the next two years.
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This is how the first G Flex was and is still without an unlock bootloader. I was afraid this was going to happen and was the reason I had skipped this device.
I spent a whole year with the first G Flex a whole year with no root to latest version that it had and no unlock bootloader, development on that device was and still is dead.
If LG says they can't bootloader unlock our phones, then why in the 5.1.1 update we have the "Allow OEM unlock" in the developer settings?
I hope LG have problems or something else with unlock on the g4 so because this they dont release a unlock solution for the flex2. It is possible to encript the g4 bootloader unlock key with the sn and imei? Maybe we can build a own unlock tool for lg phones.
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desudecchi said:
If LG says they can't bootloader unlock our phones, then why in the 5.1.1 update we have the "Allow OEM unlock" in the developer settings?
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Not can't.
WONT is more like it.
I got to hold a GF2 today, a red one...totally awesome device. I happened to have had enough cash on me to buy it right there but having been reading up on it knew its locked so passed on it.
What a waste LG, what a waste.
current devices: Nexus 6, Note 4, 3, 2, S3, OneX+
I read this also on G3 Thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/aware-lg-g3-bootloader-unlock-soon-t3147736
Try to "bomb" them with emails requesting bootloader unlock .
[email protected]
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dadaa1 said:
Wishful thinking...
Hello,
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We have no plans to support bootloader unlock in previously launched models including LG G Flex 2.
We apologize for any inconvenience that this may cause.
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Thank you.
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LG Developer site Team
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The only difference in their answer when i send them email is that they will deliver the email to the related departement. Lol
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http://developer.lge.com/community/...nuId=55&contsTypeCode=NOT&prodTypeCode=MOBILE
Their latest "reply"
This is very disappointing. Having upgraded from a oneplus one where there was a lot of development. Seriously tempted to get rid of my flex 2 and just carry on with the OPO. Either that or sell both and buy a note 4.
Tim0806 said:
This is very disappointing. Having upgraded from a oneplus one where there was a lot of development. Seriously tempted to get rid of my flex 2 and just carry on with the OPO. Either that or sell both and buy a note 4.
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I also had opo before gflex 2. I also miss every day flashing ! But to tell the truth gflex 2 is at another level. Much more powerful even with throttling. I suggest you keep the phone
at least a couple of months. Note 4 (805snapdragon cpu version) is not a good option.
i am confuse?!
I DONT UNDERSTAND ( i have been rooting and changing roms for 5 years on samsungs, but i am very new to phones with locked bootloaders, AKA my new phone.. Lg G Flex 2)
okay so how come it is possible to root android 5.0.1 on Lg G flex 2 but not on 5.1.1
tbh customs roms are great, but now i got kinda bored from it as back in my day i flashed a thousand and now i see less point init, but the minimum i want is root so i can hack apps and try new features, as well as restore my device from Titanium backup
Please dont disappoint me guys. I just bought the phone and i cant sell it anymore cause im gonna make some loss and i dont want to do that.
IS there gona be any root for 5.1.1, and if not.. then please tell me why its not possible, as i heard it worked perfectly in 5.0.1
also my fellow (lg g flex 2) freinds , what do you guys think? we gona get root or not?
what are the hopes our phones can finally leave prison and experience its new FREE Life in the open world of developing.
Ps. for my G flex 2 mates, i think we should all email lg multiple times, and threaten them that we will leave to samsung permanently if they dont fix the issue ASAP¬¬!
with the update to 5.1.1 LG locked the bootloader and made a root impossible (at this time). the G4 has the same locked bootloader, but LG offers you to unlock it with your IMEI and some other numbers from your phone and then you will get a unique unlock code only for your phone. In a statement LG said, that this method is for upcoming phones, not for old models ..
and Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Sony and Google are much better and much dev friendly then LG -.- I won't buy a LG phone again
Kind of makes KNOX seem like no big deal
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hillg001 said:
Kind of makes KNOX seem like no big deal
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It never was a big deal....
Its a shame that LG ruined such a great device with a locked BL though. What a waste.
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My LG G3 bootloader was finally unlocked last year or so. It will happen for the G Flex 2
This really stinks. Rooting and customizing is why I do not like IOS. And LG will be soon on the same list. I already Avdes my client not to buy 350 LG phones for their employees. Such a good hardware but really bad customer relations decisions. Oneplus really looks like a way to go.
littletom1201 said:
My LG G3 bootloader was finally unlocked last year or so. It will happen for the G Flex 2
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That would be great but unlikely.
The G3 had alot of people working on it as the interest was high, the same cannot be said for the GF2.
Id love to be wrong on this but doubt i am
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I have to say I agree with you. I have mixed feelings about the Flex 2. It is a very unpopular device and since I am on AT&T it will be last to receive any updates. It also is selling for a very low price ( I hate to see the value drop so soon but the more people to own it the better). I just hope we can get root and a recovery or atleast a way to return to 100% stock so when things go bad after rooting we can atleast recover from it.

How future-ready is Pixel 3?

I was planning to but Pixel 3, but nowi have some concerns.
With just 4 GB RAM, how much future ready is this phone?
Taking into consideration that in future newer apps/games may require more memory and hence the phone, to work smoothly.
What are your thoughts on this?
This is the only thing holding me back, as I will use it for long term. Should i buy 3 or wait for pixel 4?
Google will support it for 3 years (October 2021)... so I'd say it's pretty future ready.
Buy the 3... if the 4 comes out and you want that, sell the 3 (or trade it in) and buy the 4...
I'd say wait for the Pixel 4. That will be future ready since it's in the future.
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At this rate the Pixel 4 will have 4 GB.

Price drop?

This is my first time considering a Pixel device so that comes with a lack of knowledge. I was curious about Pixel device release history and whether or not we have seen prices drop on existing devices when a new Pixel is released. Basically I want to know whether waiting a few weeks is worth it or should I give it a shot now? I'm certain the 3a is the phone for me, the question is just when.
Jersey846 said:
This is my first time considering a Pixel device so that comes with a lack of knowledge. I was curious about Pixel device release history and whether or not we have seen prices drop on existing devices when a new Pixel is released. Basically I want to know whether waiting a few weeks is worth it or should I give it a shot now? I'm certain the 3a is the phone for me, the question is just when.
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Well I'm just going to go for the pixel 3A because it seems like a pretty good phone for the price. Also LTE band compatibility is all there so I'm all right with the device. I've heard multiple times that it will support AT&t v o l t e and wifi calling.
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Here's a promo code for the pixel 3a line. It's a $50 google store credit after purchase.
Promo code:
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raver445;80328995I've heard multiple times that it will support AT&t v o l t e and wifi calling.[/QUOTE said:
It definitely supports this. I'm on AT&T and it will default to wifi calling every possible chance it has......
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zonedgold said:
Here's a promo code for the pixel 3a line. It's a $50 google store credit after purchase.
Promo code:
B-QJ4CYBBXC3KDSK7ERTS90UT
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Thanks so much for the promo code. My new Pixel should arrive in a couple days. Very much appreciated.

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