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So I finally decided to root my G Flex 2. I've been talking about disabling cores for a while. Thought it may help the thermal throttling issues. Once I rooted the device I downloaded "Multicore CPU" and started disabling cores in a couple different combos. I've finally settled on disabling cores 4 and 7. Since I disabled the two cores heat has not been an issue and cores 5 and 6 are running at 2ghz. Reduced lag, and benchmarks have shot up some. Personally enjoying the lagless environment. Figured I'd post my experience with this. I'm hoping overall battery life will be better as well. Won't know for a day or two though. Oh and it stays cool while charging and in use. It used to get really hot before.
Anyone else have any experience with this?
So here are results of disabling cores and thermal throttling or lack there of now.
I also want to note that my benchmark scores were lower than the note 4 after some updates until now
BillyxAllen said:
So I finally decided to root my G Flex 2. I've been talking about disabling cores for a while. Thought it may help the thermal throttling issues. Once I rooted the device I downloaded "Multicore CPU" and started disabling cores in a couple different combos. I've finally settled on disabling cores 4 and 7. Since I disabled the two cores heat has not been an issue and cores 5 and 6 are running at 2ghz. Reduced lag, and benchmarks have shot up some. Personally enjoying the lagless environment. Figured I'd post my experience with this. I'm hoping overall battery life will be better as well. Won't know for a day or two though. Oh and it stays cool while charging and in use. It used to get really hot before.
Anyone else have any experience with this?
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My core 4 and 7 were already disabled but still very laggy... And it heats up really bad...
When do you get this overheating issues? My flex just gets warm using Chrome so i use the lg Browser now. And whats your Firmware? Still stuck in c with all Cores enabled
pascal7b said:
When do you get this overheating issues? My flex just gets warm using Chrome so i use the lg Browser now. And whats your Firmware? Still stuck in c with all Cores enabled
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My software is 10e. It heats up during YouTube, Chrome and is warmer in general then my previous phones. And its still heavy laggy...
kutinho said:
My core 4 and 7 were already disabled but still very laggy... And it heats up really bad...
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4 and 7 are not active unless 5 and 6 are under heavy load I believe. I've just made it so they never turn on.
I'm also using software ls996zv5
It's the sprint model
kutinho said:
My software is 10e. It heats up during YouTube, Chrome and is warmer in general then my previous phones. And its still heavy laggy...
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Ok on YouTube mine gets a bit warm but not as hot as in Chrome (on normal sites, nothing fancy). Watched twitch in Full hd for an Hour yesterday without any heat...seems like some Apps are better optimised for the sd810 than others
Are we getting a sd808 by disabling 2 Cores?
pascal7b said:
Ok on YouTube mine gets a bit warm but not as hot as in Chrome (on normal sites, nothing fancy). Watched twitch in Full hd for an Hour yesterday without any heat...seems like some Apps are better optimised for the sd810 than others
Are we getting a sd808 by disabling 2 Cores?
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It looks like SD810 is a peace of crap. The Flex 2 compared to my Oneplus One is like an Opel / Vauxhall Astra compared to an BMW X6.. Very disappointed..
BillyxAllen said:
So here are results of disabling cores and thermal throttling or lack there of now.
I also want to note that my benchmark scores were lower than the note 4 after some updates until now
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Ok getting a lil bit off-topic here ...i am Happy with the Phone so far, way faster than my old razr i Think Updates will make this Baby Fly (even more)
So Keep us updated with your experiences as hexacore user i am very interested in the Battery life and Real Life Performance !
808 with better GPU lol
kutinho said:
It looks like SD810 is a peace of crap. The Flex 2 compared to my Oneplus One is like an Opel / Vauxhall Astra compared to an BMW X6.. Very disappointed..
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I am also coming from oneplus, I must say you are sadly right. Newer is not necessary better in this case.
I hope with some optimalization this can be a Ferrari.
I was already let down by LG a few years before, let's hope it is not the case now.
Ronee33 said:
I am also coming from oneplus, I must say you are sadly right. Newer is not necessary better in this case.
I hope with some optimalization this can be a Ferrari.
I was already let down by LG a few years before, let's hope it is not the case now.
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Hope that with android 5.1 everything will change for better.. :fingers-crossed:
I have the AT&T version of this phone and for me cores 4,5,6 and 7 are always on except when the cpu goes above 36C then cores 4 and 7 automatically get disabled. I'm also not experiencing any lag and it's actually very smooth and fast. It also doesn't get very hot unless I run Antutu benchmark like three times in a row. What kind of CPU temperatures are you guys seeing when your phone gets hot?
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I have the AT&T version of this phone and for me cores 4,5,6 and 7 are always on except when the cpu goes above 36C then cores 4 and 7 automatically get disabled. I'm also not experiencing any lag and it's actually very smooth and fast. It also doesn't get very hot unless I run Antutu benchmark like three times in a row. What kind of CPU temperatures are you guys seeing when your phone gets hot?
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I also have the at&t version. There isn't much lag, but it gets pretty hot. Where do I check CPU temp?
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I also have the at&t version. There isn't much lag, but it gets pretty hot. Where do I check CPU temp?
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You can download Cpu Temp from the play store or I also see it in kernel apps like Trickster MOD.
My galaxy S4 used to get warmer then this phone when watching Youtube or browsing in Chrome.
probaina said:
You can download Cpu Temp from the play store or I also see it in kernel apps like Trickster MOD.
My galaxy S4 used to get warmer then this phone when watching Youtube or browsing in Chrome.
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Runs at 44C after playing games for a few minutes.
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The highest i've seen is 47C and it does make the phone feel warm but not any warmer than my Galaxy S4 used to get.
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The highest i've seen is 47C and it does make the phone feel warm but not any warmer than my Galaxy S4 used to get.
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My phone is around 40C when playing games or browsing the Web.
With another firmware wersion I was getting temperatures around 48C. That was Killin the battery in minutes.
This is what I deal with when all 4 cores are running
Hi,
Curretnly i'm on the G3 and i dont like it much.
Thinking on 1 of these:
Xiaomi Mi4C
Asus Zenphone 2
Now, I asking that in Mi 4C Thread bc's i thinking that there is some people that might had this.
What do you think?
Thanks!
It comes down to preference really as I dont really like phones bigger than 5" and xiaomi is quite established. Its got the right size, ir blaster and a good SOC which should get good rom support, cm12.1 already available
Where are you based? The Global version of the Zenphone 2 has band 20 which the Mi 4c doesn't have (may be able to be unlocked manually but I'm doubtful). The Zenphone also has expandable storage which the Mi 4c lacks - you may already be used to this and the larger form factor due to currently using the G3. That said, I've heard (but cannot personally verify) that the Zenphone has erratic battery life and performance in addition to being more expensive than the Mi 4c.
ermacwins & wingsfortheirsmiles,
I got used to 5.5" so this is not an issue at all...
I from Israel and LTE bands are 1800 & 2600.
So from my understanding, both of them would work, right?
32gb are more than I need, so the expandable storage is not too important.
If the Zenphone do has erratic battery life and performance, it's a good reason to go for the Mi4C, isn't?
Anyone else suffered or heard on it?
Thanks very much!
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ermacwins & wingsfortheirsmiles,
I got used to 5.5" so this is not an issue at all...
I from Israel and LTE bands are 1800 & 2600.
So from my understanding, both of them would work, right?
32gb are more than I need, so the expandable storage is not too important.
If the Zenphone do has erratic battery life and performance, it's a good reason to go for the Mi4C, isn't?
Anyone else suffered or heard on it?
Thanks very much!
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Well, my Mi4C had battery drain. Around 3%/hour on idle with WiFi and 4G all off, so when I woke up a third of my battery was already gone. I ended up fixing it by flashing the international ROM but after that, I've been getting 5 hours of SoT which is great. Can't comment on the battery of the Zenfone.
Regarding the battery problem:
Looks like it could different between your's to anyone else.
I read a review in a site in my country and the person who made the review praise the battery life.
Thanks!
My Mi4c has very good battery life. The same like the z1 compact i had. Other phones i had i charged sometimes more than 2 times a day.
The zenfone 2 has worse battery life, build quality and performance. If you don't mind the SD card and 5" screen then the Mi4C is your phone. Zenfone 3 could be very interesting when (should be kinda soonTM) it gets released though!
Thank you all!
Go for the Mi4C.
P.S: A newer model of Mi series also coming soon?
How abt Redmi note 3?
No battery issue with my Mi4C. Left it idle for most part of the day with cellular and Wi-Fi connected the whole time and managed 0.7% / hour idle time. I also have many apps installed (not facebook or any messaging apps though). It's rooted and greenified, running original stable Chinese Miui 7 Rom with some Chinese bloat apps removed. It's also scoring 52K on antutu 6.
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Processing power wise, ZenFone 2 (the high end 32 GB internal memory with 4 GB RAM model) is comparable to Mi4C, the GPU is even slightly better. However, when it comes to video recording, ZenFone is waaaaay below Mi4C. The still image, if you use latest firmware, is already fixed though. Note that due to the use of Intel processor, some apps that use native libraries might not be installable. Ensure your apps are architecture-neutral or have both arm and intel version available.
OTOH, Mi4C has thermal issues and I still can't find the best thermal configuration so far. This causes the cores, both CPU and GPU, get shutted down or their upper limit is decreased to lower down the temperature. I break this limit by changing the limit a little bit higher, but if you play games while charging the phone, my best record reaches 90° C. Hot enough for a sleep killer tea
Happy deciding!
Having owned both phones i can say the Zen2 is a dud. The screen is dim, the speaker is weak, some apps drain crazy battery as they are using an ARM emulator to run on x86. It wobbles on the desk and the battery dies after your lunch break. The camera has low exposure that makes everything look darker than it is. The Mi4c just works like you expect a flagship to do.
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Processing power wise, ZenFone 2 (the high end 32 GB internal memory with 4 GB RAM model) is comparable to Mi4C, the GPU is even slightly better. However, when it comes to video recording, ZenFone is waaaaay below Mi4C. The still image, if you use latest firmware, is already fixed though. Note that due to the use of Intel processor, some apps that use native libraries might not be installable. Ensure your apps are architecture-neutral or have both arm and intel version available.
OTOH, Mi4C has thermal issues and I still can't find the best thermal configuration so far. This causes the cores, both CPU and GPU, get shutted down or their upper limit is decreased to lower down the temperature. I break this limit by changing the limit a little bit higher, but if you play games while charging the phone, my best record reaches 90° C. Hot enough for a sleep killer tea
Happy deciding!
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I dont believe in 90° C unless your phone is borked and termal throttling doesnt work, also phone would shut down anyway with that temperature.
k3lcior said:
I dont believe in 90° C unless your phone is borked and termal throttling doesnt work, also phone would shut down anyway with that temperature.
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It is, well the screenshot I have is 87 actually in one of the many thermal zone (they're all varying from 60 or so) but during that time I did see and feel 90 (as a hot tea drinker, I know how hot is 90). Thankfully I have a flip cover that absorbs the heat, but if you touch the scree, it's really damn hot. Thermal throttling doesn't work on my device, because I've disabled the thermal driver :cyclops:
I don't really know the actual upper limit, but I guess it should be around 100-120. My PC was 120, but I don't think smartphone's SoC will differ much.
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It is, well the screenshot I have is 87 actually in one of the many thermal zone (they're all varying from 60 or so) but during that time I did see and feel 90 (as a hot tea drinker, I know how hot is 90). Thankfully I have a flip cover that absorbs the heat, but if you touch the scree, it's really damn hot. Thermal throttling doesn't work on my device, because I've disabled the thermal driver :cyclops:
I don't really know the actual upper limit, but I guess it should be around 100-120. My PC was 120, but I don't think smartphone's SoC will differ much.
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RIP phone.
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RIP phone.
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Hahaha, worry not, it's been back to normal temp (30-50). The problem only happens if you play resource intensive games while charging.
My last phone Mi4i also reached ~90°C after playing with the thermal engine. The flashlight turned on in the pocket of my pants and burned for half an hour. I just noticed it because my leg got hotter and hotter luckily the phone wasnt damaged through this. Also, i think the CPU can handle these temperatures without being damaged, but i would worry about other phone components such as SD Card, battery or glued components
Sorry, my antutu 6 score for my Mi4c was 685xx, not 52k.
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mmmh i think xiaomi mi4c only for battery
OK, I have an att galaxy s7 g930a rooted phone. If imy out and about and not by an outlet, my battery is dead by around 6 pm. I'm not really a power user.
Immediately looking at better battery stats which it says since boot, system used 24%, and next is wake lock 6%, then kk launcher at 4%.
For battery optimization, I keep the phone in power saver mode. I also have juice defender ultimate and I run it in balanced mode. I have the setting unselected so the phone does not sync constantly for new emails etc.
I have power toggles and turn off GPS, mobile data, and WiFi when I'm not using it knowing all these transmitters drain the battery. And yet I can't get over 12 hours on a charge.
Try checking the cable n charger see if they are stock charger ..sometimes quick charge doesnt charge the battery properly ...u might need to replace battery if they r good
The battery on an s7 is built in.... not replacable.
It is replaceable u need to a good technician to open up the back using blow dryer type device n then swap the battery its pretty easy
I haven't had the phone a year yet. I really don't believe the battery itself is bad. Almost every situation like this I've seen has been an app draiming the battery... nothing physically wrong with the device.
What screen on time are you getting? What mobile network setting are you using/network are you on? 3G or 4G, if you're on a 3G network make sure it's set to 2G/3G in settings. Try installing gsam battery stats to see if you can identify anything unusual or something that's causing a drain.
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dorlow said:
I haven't had the phone a year yet. I really don't believe the battery itself is bad. Almost every situation like this I've seen has been an app draiming the battery... nothing physically wrong with the device.
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I tend to agree with you. I've recently gone through seven S7's... I've exchanged the previous ones and am currently on my eighth device. Among these phones, it was only the international unlocked variant (SM-G930F) and the US unlocked variant (SM-G930U) that showed rather impressive battery life. I was often able to get 1.5 to 2 days of run time on a single charge from each of those models. The 930F was even better battery-wise than the 930U's, which weren't bad at all. Conversely, the batteries in the carrier variants that I've tried have seemed to deplete far too rapidly - similar to the situation you've described with your phone. My current S7 is an SM-G930P (Sprint variant) and its battery seems to last half as long (or less) than the unlocked S7 variants I've used.
The most generally disturbing thing for me about the GS7 is that there has been one or more significantly undesirable issues that seem exclusive to and inherently present among each of the model variant categories. At least this has appeared the case based upon the S7's that I've personally tested. For me, it seems there is no variant model of this device that's without seriously objectionable issues. However, finding some way to make the carrier-variant batteries last significantly longer would go a long way toward making other said issues more tolerable.
You could try greenify if you got xposed installed. There is another module too, but the name escapes me right now.
dorlow said:
OK, I have an att galaxy s7 g930a rooted phone.
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From what i've read the root method using eng boot for snapdragon phones makes the cpu run at the highest frequency, so yes the battery life will suffer.
peachpuff said:
From what i've read the root method using eng boot for snapdragon phones makes the cpu run at the highest frequency, so yes the battery life will suffer.
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Hmm, so the rooting method for the SD820 equipped S7's effectively overclocks the CPU? Perhaps it changes the multiplier?
The 4 cores on my unrooted SD820 equipped S7's have always idled at 307 MHz, and then spiked up as needed. Do the rooted SD820 equipped S7's idle at a higher clock speed? Or do they simply have a higher maximum clock speed - i.e., beyond 2.15 GHz? Either way, I can see how that would suck the battery down noticeably quicker.
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Hmm, so the rooting method for the SD820 equipped S7's effectively overclocks the CPU? Perhaps it changes the multiplier?
The 4 cores on my unrooted SD820 equipped S7's have always idled at 307 MHz, and then spiked up as needed. Do the rooted SD820 equipped S7's idle at a higher clock speed? Or do they simply have a higher maximum clock speed - i.e., beyond 2.15 GHz? Either way, I can see how that would suck the battery down noticeably quicker.
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It has to do with the governor, its apparently set to performance rather than interactive. Check what yours is set to, cpuid app can show you that.
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It has to do with the governor, its apparently set to performance rather than interactive. Check what yours is set to, cpuid app can show you that.
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Ah, that would be the CPU auto-scaling mechanism, if I'm not mistaken. I think mine's obviously set to interactive since the cores idle at 307 MHz. I'm guessing that if scaling were set to performance mode the cores would be running at full speed instead. And yes, that would drain the battery far quicker! And I sure DON'T need this 930P to drain its battery more rapidly than it already does. I'm currently playing with the debloater app to see if I can make some improvements tha way.
Hi! I have G930F. I installed TWRP and installed DevBase v5.7 rom. When i flashed TGP kernel and played heavy game while 10 min, phone gets so hot. When i cheked battery temperature its showing 43°C. It is normal?
Finnishman said:
Hi! I have G930F. I installed TWRP and installed DevBase v5.7 rom. When i flashed TGP kernel and played heavy game while 10 min, phone gets so hot. When i cheked battery temperature its showing 43°C. It is normal?
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LITTLE core looks like running all the time and i thing its cause heating. How i can fix this problem?
Finnishman said:
LITTLE core looks like running all the time and i thing its cause heating. How i can fix this problem?
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Hello,
Exact same problem here.
I'm running latest LineageOS official.
What app are you using ? I can't find that one called "little" on the play store...
slashxdot said:
Hello,
Exact same problem here.
I'm running latest LineageOS official.
What app are you using ? I can't find that one called "little" on the play store...
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I using mtweaks app
Thx, well it's not exactly the same problem as you have since my CPUs are running in low power state when the phone is not used.
Anyway, when I start browsing the internet, the phone gets hot and when I'm playing games, it just gets super-hot. (not in charge while using it btw).
Previously, I had a Nexus 4 which is famous for its overheating problems, but the S7 is worse.
This, the ill placed speaker, the poor quality of the AMOLED, I'm so disappointment with this phone.
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Thx, well it's not exactly the same problem as you have since my CPUs are running in low power state when the phone is not used.
Anyway, when I start browsing the internet, the phone gets hot and when I'm playing games, it just gets super-hot. (not in charge while using it btw).
Previously, I had a Nexus 4 which is famous for its overheating problems, but the S7 is worse.
This, the ill placed speaker, the poor quality of the AMOLED, I'm so disappointment with this phone.
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The AMOLED screen on the S7 was widely regarded as the best screen on a mobile phone when it was introduced.
You're running an unofficial ROM + kernel and running into problems and are blaming the phone? Lots of people seem to hold LineageOS up as the solution to all problems, but on many devices it seems to be a giant hack.
This screen is a piece of **** (mura effect & spots when lowering the brightness), my Nexus 4 screen is at least 10X better.
I'm running Cyanogenmod/LineageOS since the very beginning, never had this kind of problem before...
The S7 Exynos phones do tend to get a bit warm if you're browsing certain websites, Facebook and streaming, and it'll get hot if you're playing resource intensive games like GTA & Bully. That's what happens when your device's CPUs can reach a max clock speed of 2704MHz. Take a look at what apps are running in the background first.
I'm only able to read the battery temp sensor, no other sensor available despite having tried a lot of monitoring apps.
Idle temp : around 29-33°C
Heavy use : up to 45°C
Past 39°C, the phone gets really uncomfortable to use.
I did further testing with another S7 (carrier firmware, brand new), launched a stress-test app on both phones at the same time and after 15 min, mine is 4°C hotter (battery temp). It's not really relevant, maybe due to my tempered glass preventing heat dissipation or some LineageOS optimizations, I don't know. Anyway, the S7 feels way hotter than my previous phones.
it's strange that power user/advanced user have to complaining about overheating and comparing with other brand when they are running unofficial software and kernel. and i think the word 'overheating' is about the cpu/chipset not the battery. *correct me*
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have to complaining
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maXDAmn said:
comparing with other brand when they are running unofficial software and kernel.
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Irrelevant since the other S7 is running pretty hot too.
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and i think the word 'overheating' is about the cpu/chipset not the battery. *correct me*
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Yes but I only have access to the battery sensor. The frame is hot on both phone tough.
i have a snapdragon version of S7 and i don't think exynos version have overheating problem running on official firmware. running Oreo right now and still don't have such problem. and FYI using the phone INFO apps (google playstore), i can see the temperature of the cpu.
Hello,
Since I have not yet had a precise idea about the battery life of this S10E, I would like a comparison between my current smartphone and the S10E.
If for example with my current smartphone (Galaxy S5 Mini, stock rom and battery replaced about 3 years ago) with the use I make I arrive at night when I go to sleep with about 15% of battery, in my case with S10E how much will the battery percentage be compared to the S5 mini?
Thanks a lot in advance for a reply!
I'm assuming the baterry is 2,100 mAh, the s10e has 3,100 a better processor and a better overall OS and UI.. it handles battery drain better afaik.
You should see very good improvements in battery life going with the s10e..
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I'm assuming the baterry is 2,100 mAh, the s10e has 3,100 a better processor and a better overall OS and UI.. it handles battery drain better afaik.
You should see very good improvements in battery life going with the s10e..
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Ok, thanks a lot for the reply!!
I would like to switch from my S5 to the S10E, but the various reviews says that S10E have a very bad battery....
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Ok, thanks a lot for the reply!!
I would like to switch from my S5 to the S10E, but the various reviews says that S10E have a very bad battery....
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In all honesty, I came from an LG G6 to the S10e (Snapdragon version), and I'm getting better battery life, even though the G6 had a larger 3300 mAh battery. You should almost certainly see a decent improvement coming from an S5.
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In all honesty, I came from an LG G6 to the S10e (Snapdragon version), and I'm getting better battery life, even though the G6 had a larger 3300 mAh battery. You should almost certainly see a decent improvement coming from an S5.
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I hope, because I would like to buy an european S10E with a Exynos CPU. The battery drain problems is related to Exynos models, not to Snapdragon.
I would not compare a low priced/featured SoC (S5 mini) with a highest end Soc (S10e). A more featured SoC will always drain more power, because it has more components that must be powered. Better compare the energy efficiency of the same SoC from different smartphone manufacturers.
As far as I can say yet after a week, the power drain of the S10e is OK. This means: I expect that with more apps the power drain will raise. If the phone lasts for a day, or if i have to power it in the late evening/night, this is OK.
My last daily driver phone was a Xiaomi Note 5 which broke accidently. That thing gave me power for 2-3 day heavy usage. With an Snapdragon 636, an ernergy efficient mid-class SoC with a 4000mAh battery, the experience was superb. But with lack of many phone features like good camera, NFC, ....
Nevertheless I decided to switch to an higher end daily driver because of the features and overall better possibilies the S10e can give me. If the battery will not last for the whole day i will sell it. I also will buy a backup phone like the Xiaomi Note 7 soon for navigation and for traveling.