Anyone having been into the audiophile / Hi-Fi business knows loudspeakers and headphones should never be tested alone, without comparing their audio quality (and other parameters) to other, comparable headphones (speakers etc.). This is why strictly comparative tests are needed to fairly compare the sound quality of each set to one another. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the A2DP stereo Bluetooth headphones reviews doesn’t belong to this category and, therefore, shouldn’t really be taken seriously. By the way, A2DP stands for Advanced Audio Distribution Profile; note that I haven’t recommended the Wiki page because it’s full of mobility-related mistakes like stating A2DP was added to the BlackBerry OS with version 4.2 (not true: several 4.2-based models like the 8800 do NOT have A2DP; it’s only the Curve that is 4.2-based and has it – and, of course, the 4.3-based Pearl); it states A2DP only arrived to Symbian S60 with S60 FP1 (not true – some pre-FP1 models like the N73 with the latest upgrade also has it; and, of course, some earlier models like the Nokia 5300 dumbphone [based on S40 3rd ed FP2] too) it doesn’t explain the Windows Mobile situation (the major differences between the two stacks and, with Microsoft’s stack, the pre-WM6 and the WM6+ situation) etc.
Also, it’s pretty much important for a technical writer to know what he or she is writing about. Unfortunately, many of the currently available A2DP reviews have major factual errors (like not knowing how canalphones should be used or the major difference between them and traditional earbuds and, therefore, comparing apples to oranges or even mistaking A2DP dongles for remote controllers, showing the review was indeed rushed and the reviewer didn’t even bother testing all the facilities and/or reading the manual).
Almost none of the reviews contain real battery life / recharge tests. As, in most cases, the figures provided by headset manufacturers are, (in some cases, overly) optimistic (except for some rare cases), failing to measure this (and just reciting the official figures) don’t help much the prospective buyers in deciding which model to go for, should they want to base their selection on these parameters (too).
Finally, in addition to not comparing the audio quality of the headphones to each other and making sometimes major factual mistakes, the third biggest problem with the currently available headphones reviews are either not being multiplatform (some of the, particularly older, reviews are made using either dumb phones for plain headset and the enclosed A2DP dongle for music) or, if it at all uses Windows Mobile as a A2DP source, most of the cases it uses pre-Windows Mobile 6 Microsoft Bluetooth stack versions, which equals to very bad sound quality. Incidentally, none of the reviews I’ve read (and linked from the article) even mentioned the problems of the pre-Windows Mobile 6 Bluetooth stacks – not even ones that have been published long after my (among others, Pocket PC Thoughts-frontpaged) well-known article on the problems of the Microsoft A2DP implementation, showing the authors of these reviews haven’t really made their homework (checking out other, related articles for background information before publishing theirs). This is a major flaw with all these reviews, as far as usage under Windows Mobile is considered. (A2DP implementations on other platforms like Palm OS, BlackBerry and Symbian S60 don’t have such, version-dependent quality problems.) Some of the reviews, which, basically, "trash" the attainable A2DP sound quality, may have been got to their conclusion because of the bad A2DP quality in pre-Windows Mobile 6. This also shows the reviewers didn’t bother testing the headphones with alternate, non-Windows Mobile sources and/or reading others’ (most importantly, my) reports on the A2DP quality issues.
Therefore, you will really want to read this roundup so that you can easily pick a model and learn more about the current state of A2DP on all major mobile platforms.
First and foremost, (if you’re a Windows Mobile user and you use a non-Windows Mobile 6 device coming with the MS BT stack) in addition the above-linked article on the WM6 sound quality increase, you’ll definitely want to read my previous A2DP headphones roundup HERE. Please note that, in this roundup, I do not repeat the information already available in those articles. Let me know (in a public question) if you don’t understand something and need additional info and I’ll answer you. You will also want to thoroughly read the Headphones article in the Wiki; particularly the Types of Headphones section, which excellently explains the (major) difference between circumaural, supra-aural, earbud, and in-ear (canalphone) models. I will not repeat the information available there here either. Also note that I’ve devoted a separate article to the question of listening to music / non-phone audio on mono (non-A2DP) headsets and using the microphone of the A2DP headphones as, say, a wireless mike for your handset – again, when NOT in a phone call. You might want to check it out too for additional uses of Bluetooth for bidirectional audio transfer on Windows Mobile.
Note that, while the Wiki article, in the Types of Headphones section, explains the speaker part pretty well, there isn’t similar info on the main other distinction based on the head/neckband it uses (except for purely cable-based in-ear solutions like the Voyager 855): behind-the-neck (the vast majority of current headphones) like the HT820 and over-the-head ones like the Pulsar 590. Both have advantages and disadvantages. Personally, I prefer over-the-head headphones because they’re, in general, far easier to wear and put less pressure on the ears than many? most? behind-the-neck solutions. Also, they’re far easier to remove and put back in, which may be really advantageous when you often need to interrupt wearing it and expose your ear(s) to listen to, say, colleagues. (This is pretty common with me – I just put on the hedphones when I need to concentrate on work so that I don’t hear the phone and other distracting sound sources.) Many, however, prefer behind-the-neck ones; most importantly because, then, the headband can be much smaller as it doesn’t need to encompass the entire head, meaning, in general, a smaller size to carry. (Of course, careful over-the-head designs can still be folded into a smaller package; see the on-road size difference shots between the Moto HT820 and the Pulsar 590. While the former is a behind-the-neck model and the latter an over-the-head one, the Pulsar folds into a smaller size than the Motorola and it’s, therefore, easier to carry in even a large(r) shirt pocket.
For the roundup, I’ve purchased (fortunately, I’ve got some of them pretty cheap second-hand) / received five A2DP headphones. Probably most of you have already heard of the Motorola HT820, probably the most widely known headphones model. I, of course, include Plantronics too, who have pretty popular A2DP phones. From them, I included the Pulsar 590 (which is, despite its age, taking everything into account, is still pretty much the best supra-aural / over-the-head headphone) and their latest, pretty cool, hybrid model, the Voyager 855 (on which I’ve already quickly elaborated HERE). From UK-based Gear4, I’ve included their latest model, the BluPhones (also mentioned in the just-linked MWC Bluetooth article) and from Cellink, a well-known phone accessories company, the BTST-9000D.
Compared to my previous A2DP headphones roundup, I’ve added Windows Mobile 6 (which was still not available during the writing of the previous roundup), BlackBerry and Symbian S60 testing. I’ve also thoroughly elaborated on issues like comfort and pedestrian usage.
Finally, before starting to elaborate on the different headphones, I need to point out that, as with most of my articles, the vast majority of the information you’ll find the most important is presented in the comparison / feature / measurement chart belonging to the article. It’s available here and is a must. As has already been explained in many of my articles, it’s in a chart that one can compare different, alternative products the most easily and tersely.
Motorola HT820
(tested: a D-series model – that is, the fourth revision)
This is an old, widely known, comparatively cheap, supra-aural, behind-the-neck model with excellent sound quality, platform compatibility and battery life but really bad comfort, looks and weight and not very stellar maximal volume.
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(Shots from the front and the back so that you can see how much it protrudes, where the headband is when in use etc.)
Note that I do not elaborate more on this headphone models (neither do I elaborate on the others – again, I’ve listed the pros / cons of each and every reviewed model in the chart; make sure you VERY thoroughly read it). Most of the rest of the article is "only" presenting you real-world some shots of how it looks like, how much it has the "Princess Leia" effect and, of course, commenting on the other reviews, correcting their mistakes or arguing with their statements. Should you find the information in the chart insufficient or just would need some additional shots, feel free to check out these reviews, also paying attention to my corrections.
The a2dp.info review is pretty cool (albeit has no shots of its own). Its only factual mistake is stating that the LEDs can’t be disabled. (They can be – see the chart.)
The Legit Reviews folks stated the following: "With a behind-the-head design, this headset was feeling quite heavy after long-term use. My ears really started to cry after an especially long session of Battlefield 2 and needed a rest.", which I fully agree with. The Phone Arena review goes even further and states it only takes some 10-20 minutes for it to start to be really annoying. Interestingly, the pocketnow review stated it’s "Comfortable fit". Taking the date of the review (more than three years ago) into account, this can be understood as they may have nothing to compare it against (now, there’re a lot of, much more comfortable alternatives).
Should you want to use it with iPods and the like (that is, with mobile sources while on the move), you certainly will dislike the physical dimensions of the DC800 (130mm x 150mm x 70mm; 100g and not battery-operated; to see what this really means in reality, see the shots in the Unwired review.)
Another full reviews is that of Phone Arena. They have also measured excellent battery life (see page 3): "In our Battery Test, the Motorola headset worked for 990 minutes, which is 16 and a half hours - this is very good result and exceeds the battery time of most phones (in music mode) about twice." Note that they state "Poor sound quality when listening to music" (see Page 3; "We were disappointed by the sound of HT820 while listening to music – it is weak and is not clearly heard and even muffled in a noisy environment like in the street. The quality is poor: the bass is not stressed, it lacks any detail whatever and the lowest frequencies are not played but cause crackling in some cases. The middle frequencies are represented poorly; the vocals sound very unrealistically and without detail, and the high ones sound metallically, without fineness and speed. As a whole we don’t like how the earpieces work."). They must have tested an earlier firmware version (with [early] models A, B and C and the original – upgradeable! – firmware, it really skipped) – this is definitely not the case (at least now, with current firmware versions).
IGN’s review states "The audio quality was only average and didn't really exceed any expectations as it hits the higher sounds nicely, but has nearly non-existent bass." This is in no way true – the headphones do have plenty of bass.
Notebook Review ‘s review is HERE. Note that they state it’s "Lightweight/sleek", which I dare to disagree with.
TreoCentral’s review is HERE. Note that it states "The bass is dynamic, the mid-range is a bit muddy and the highs can get a bit clipped. I suspect the wireless feature muddies up the mids and MP3 encoding tends to clip the highs. I’d suggest encoding music at 160mbps (rather than the standard 128) with variable bit rate." This is not really true – current A2DP implementations are all of very high quality (unless it’s the Microsoft BT stack on pre-WM6 operating systems) and, at 128 kbps, it’s not the highs that will be clipped but compression artifacts can be introduced. Also, because of their not testing the recharge time ("the Motorola HT820 gets the nod over the Nokia BH-601 for two reasons. First off, it’s supposed to charge in just two hours (the Nokia is stated to take three).") they just recited the official (too optimal) specification (2:00 instead of the 3:10 I’ve measured).
The Unwired’s review also complains of the not-that-large maximal volume and it’s being really thick.
PocketNow’s review tested a very old firmware version; newer versions do store more than one paired devices; that is, the first section of "BUGS AND WISHES" is no longer topical.
WMExpert’s review is a bit too positive (it, for example, lists comfort, the biggest problems with this model, as 4/5 – I’d rate it far less); however, it’s still worth a read.
In my previous articles, I’ve already linked to MobileBurn’s roundup. It, unfortunately, is more geared towards testing A2DP / voice compatibility with mostly dumbphones than comparing audio quality or comfort.
Some of the user comments HERE state the headband is just too short. I don’t think this is the case - it's in no way shorter than the other, behind-the-neck models.
Gear4 BluPhones
This is, physically, a well-made and excellent model. Electronically / acoustically, however, it leaves a lot to be desired. There may still be cases when you want to go for it – just carefully check out the cons and the pros listed in the chart.
(package contents)
(cinch charger)
(buttons and the active LED)
([active] LED and DC in; the polarity / voltage is also shown to make it easier to find a third-party charger)
(also shows the LED blinking– as can be seen, it’s in no way annoying)
(the second shot shows the set can easily slide out from the ear – it’s in no way as bad as with the Cellink phones, though)
Reviews:
Trusted Reviews’ one is probably the best review available, Interestingly, they didn’t consider the model comfortable, which I (and most of the other reviews) strongly disagree with: the Gear4 BluPhones are far easier to wear than, say, the Moto HT820.
CNET’s review is pretty superficial; so is
Absolute Gadget’s.
The IET's review is too a bit superficial. I definitely agree with their following statement: "I found the comfort of the Bluphones to be the quality that put them head and shoulders above other wireless headsets. At 26 grams, it is very light and comfortable to wear, even after hours of continuous use. I have often found ear buds difficult to use, as this reviewer’s ears tend not to hold them securely, but the attached headband, which wraps around the back of the head, holds the earpieces firmly in place."
The Amazon user reviews are worth checking out, albeit some of them have plain false info; for example, the statement "However for the purposes of listening to music, I have been very disappointed with performance. No base. Literally no base to the sound, the pitch is bland" isn’t true – I’ve seen headphones behaving much worse, bass-wise (for example, some real earbud models – for example, the Nokia HS-12W).
Cellink BTST-9000D
This is without doubt the less recommended model of the bunch. I just don’t see the point in using it, mostly because its AVRCP support is really-really bad (in general, non-existent) and, physically, is also sub-par. It has a pretty bad battery life. Avoid it!
(certainly shows how asymmetrically they fit on the ear)
(it’s worth noticing the big gap between the right headphones and the ear)
Reviews:
unbeatable: I strongly disagree with this. For example, it states "They [the headphones] are extremely light so as not to hinder you whilst you exercise." – well, if you also take the bad battery life into account (and the fact that the Plantronics 590 and, particularly, the HT820 delivers far better battery life, while they weigh in at about 30 grams more only), they in no way are light. The statement "It comes with a remote control too." shows the writer doesn’t really know much about A2DP headphones. (She’s speaking of the wired transmitter, not any kind of a remote controller.)
Computer Active’s review (also available at vunet) , giving it a 2/5, is far better and more unbiased one. It states "However, we do have some gripes. First, the triangular ear pads don’t sit entirely flush on your head, which means some sound is lost around the sides. The headset is also cumbersome and looks fairly silly. It didn’t fare well in the gym either, constantly slipping off while we were on the treadmill." – that is, exactly my thoughts and opinions.
Plantronics Voyager 855
This in-ear monitor (not to be mistaken for traditional earbuds!) is pretty much recommended if you do like these kinds of in-ear phones. If you haven’t ever used them, then, you may have a hard time getting used to them. Therefore, before purhasing this one, make sure you won’t hate the feeling and can live with the strong filtering out of the external noise.
Reviews:
There’s a comparatively common complaint in the user comment section of the CNET review: "It doesn't stay in my ear well even with dif size earpieces, it goes into ear canal at an off angle so it cant get a good seal and the ear piece material doesn't stick to your ear good enough either. I constantly have to push it into my canal even when I have the ear loop on. It has the small less than 1cm round earbud style that you can push deep into your ear." They also have a very short video "review", which is more of an advertisement not lacking superlatives - "fantastic audio quality" and the like. While I do consider the 855’s audio quality good, it still can’t beat decent supra-aural headphones like the Pulsar 590 or the (of course, pretty uncomfortable) Moto HT820. That is, the video should have stated "decent audio quality for a canalphones model and/or much better quality than any earbuds" instead.
Laptop Mag’s battery life / recharge benchmarks are a bit different from those of mine; they state "we got seven hours of music playback while taking intermittent calls. But we were peeved that we had to wait two hours to fully charge the headset before using it". The truth, as far as continuous music playback is concerned, battery life is considerably worse (around 5:30...6 hours) and the recharge time a bit longer (around 2:20).
PCMag’s review is plain bad as the reviewer doesn’t really seem to know the limitations (and qualities) of A2DP. She states "Stereo music played through the Voyager 855 sounded middling to poor. I heard some bass, though it distorted easily and was more boom than actual punch. The midrange and high end exhibited hazy stereo panning, tinny treble, and not enough "air" around the instruments. Oddly, lead vocals were hard to hear as well. Sometimes electric guitars on tracks by the band Muse would get louder and then recede a few moments later, presumably due to quirks in the Bluetooth connection. This is certainly no headset for audiophiles." and "Audio enthusiasts will probably prefer wired buds, due to the sonic limitations of the current A2DP Bluetooth protocol." Actually, it’s the mechanical parts that are the bottleneck, not A2DP. A2DP is capable of delivering much better audio quality than a small-sized, non-isolated earbud will ever deliver. Second, she complains about the lack of basses. I’m not at all sure she has pushed the phones into her ear sufficiently strongly enough. Without making them fit, you’ll indeed encounter poor basses. Again, these are in-ear monitors, NOT earbuds. The latter only need to be placed directly outside of the ear canal, while in-ear monitors need to be firmly push into the canal itself. On the other hand, if you do push them into your ear canal (which can clearly be noticed immediately because the isolation starts working and the external sounds will sound much quieter), the basses appear – at a much higher level than most? all? true (external) earbuds like the (factory) iPod, Zune, Nokia N95 or most HTC stereo headsets.
Indeed, speaking of external earbuds, the reviewer doesn’t seem to know the vast audio quality difference between canalphones (in-ear monitors) and traditional earbuds - assuming you’re used to the awkwardness of the former. Incidentally, the same review has been published at Smart Device Central, where, in the first comment, the Plantronics acoustic designer responsible for the 855 explains (some of) the inherent flaws of the article. Let me cite it in its entirety (it’s really worth reading):
"I am the Plantronics acoustic designer responsible for this product and have a few comments on how to get good audio quality from this and similar headsets.
With this fit style (frequently called a canal-phone); if the user thinks that the headset sounds "tinny" it is 95% certain that the seal between the eartip and the ear-canal has been compromised. If the bass appears to be present but not "vibrant" it is possible that one ear has good fit and the other does not.
In order to provide both background-noise isolation and good audio performance from a very small loudspeaker (required in such a small product) it is necessary to seal the output of the speaker to the ear-canal. I won't go into details as to why, but the requirement is actually pretty rigorous, a gap the diameter of a human hair will degrade the bass response at very low frequencies and it doesn't take too much larger a leak to produce the impression stated by the reviewer.
If a slight tug on the headset or earbud does not produce a slight feeling of "suction", there is too much leakage to get optimum performance. When perfectly coupled to the ear this product has an acoustic response that is flat to below 10 Hz. (two octaves below the lowest note on the bass guitar) but a significant leak can make it hard to hear the bass at all.
I do not consider the requirement for seal to be a virtue, but if adequate attention is paid to fit, the results are superior to other approaches. The alternative is a much larger headset to achieve similar performance (although not bass down to 10 Hz.) so it worth it to try different (supplied) eartips and manipulate the headset to get the right fit. The size and shape of individual ears varies greatly and it is difficult to engineer a single eartip that fits everyone. Normally a bit of care will produce a good fit and once you have heard the improvement it will be easier to achieve and maintain."
PC World: an average review with an average score. It seems to, to some degree, trash A2DP and recommend wired headsets over any A2DP phones. Again, I disagree: with quality A2DP implementations (again, all current smartphone stacks except for the Microsoft one in WM5), A2DP does deliver excellent quality.
ZDNet’s review doesn’t really elaborate on the A2DP mode; most of its remarks concern the standard (mono) headset mode.
MobileBurn’s recently-published review seems to be much fairer; its pros/cons lists are pretty much the same as mine.
Treonauts’ review is pretty short and certainly lacks sound quality evaluation. It, however, has some pics.
The Amazon user reviews (there are 25 of them) are also worth checking out.
WMExperts have also published a mini-review and video without much elaboration on the sound quality. They state it’s average; I am not sure whether they have indeed pushed the phones in the ear canal sufficiently well (as is, again, also emphasized by Plantronics’ acoustic designer).
PhoneArea’s article is more of an ad. Good Gear Guide’s article isn’t much better either.
symbian-guru’s short and mostly Symbian-related (reports on tests with the N95-3) article is HERE.
There’s some decent posts at pinstack.com.
Plantronics Pulsar 590
Not taking into the Voyager 855 into account (again, if and only if you can live with in-ear monitors and/or definitely need a set of A2DP headphones that look professionally without making few people aware of you’re listening to music, unlike with supra-aural headphones), this is probably the most recommended model.
I, generally, agree with the a2dp.info review, particularly with the closing statement "As it seemed to me, among positive comments the 590 A ranks first. In spite of still facing some problems, users consider this headset to be nearly the best choice.". I, however, don’t think the statement "though they will be TOO tight for persons with bigger heads" is right – I have a pretty big head and have absolutely no problems with the 590, not even after 6-8 hours of wearing it. On the other hand, I have major problems with the Moto HT820 on my large head – even after some 30 minutes of listening. Also note that while I have a big head and have been using the 590A very frequently for a little less than two years (!), it hasn’t broken on me, unlike, for example, the TH-55, which broke after about two days (!) of use. That is, if you’re lucky enough, I don’t think it’ll break on you either. I think it was till mid-2006 that the fragile 590's were manufactured; the two 590's I've been using have been manufactured later and, again, haven't broken on me.
ShinyShiny TV’s review is pretty short and not very informative; so is MobileWhack’s and Laptop Mag’s.
MobileTechReview’s review is far longer. I agree with it, particularly with the conclusion ("We’ve reviewed several Bluetooth stereo headsets over the years and the Pulsar 590 is the best we’ve seen and heard so far."), except for statements like "The sound quality is very good when working with both the iPod and the Zune. The Pulsar 590 adds more bass compared to the iPod OEM wired headset, but is otherwise comparable to the wired headsets bundled with these devices." Actually, the Zune is a plain (albeit indeed very good quality – it’s even better, bass-wise, than the earbuds coming with the Nokia N95) earbud model and definitely has worse (less) bass than the 590.
The user reviews at pricegrabber may also be worth reading. I certainly don’t agree with the fourth reviewer’s statement, "Not the best audio quality", though. The reviewer with the post "Warning, not compatable" only refers to the (old and certainly non-A2DP-capable) LG8100, NOT real A2DP sources.
Gadget Review’s very short mini-review is certainly flawed. They state "Don’t expect long playback time, but should suffice for those who use at home." This is in no way true – as long as they can name a stereo Bluetooth headset that has at least twice the battery life (I don’t think they can – most of the small(er) headsets don’t even come close to HALF of the battery life of the 590).
Legit Reviews’ review is pretty long. It, however, having been published more than two years ago, doesn’t elaborate on the A2DP quality when using mobile sources. I certainly disagree with the statement "The volume on the headset was very good and the stereo sound was far superior to that of the Moto HT820" – it’s not really true. The two models have approximately the same sound quality and, with strong equalization in the highs on the 590, frequency response.
CNet’s mini-review is pretty nice. The only statement requiring some additional info is as follows: "We played audio through the Pulsar 590A continuously over a period of about 11 hours without having to recharge. This is not bad, but a word of warning: It's a pain to recharge a device such as headphones when you're not used to doing so." I don’t really get this. First, the 590 has great battery life. Second, you just put it on a charger before going to bed every (second / third, depending on the use) night and, when you wake up, it’s recharged – there isn’t anything different in this than in, say, recharging handsets.
jkOnTheRun’s review is very short (some sentences only); it’s mostly the comments that are worth checking out. So is the case with LiGo’s page.
PC Authority’s review is OK, except for their opinion on the sound quality: "Unfortunately, the sound quality isn’t on par with what we have heard from other offerings, but they’re still worth considering. … The sound quality is, unfortunately, very muddy. Undefined bass tends to drown out the rest of the signal, and a lot of the treble’s definition is lost in transmission. If your source has any EQ settings, you can tweak them to get better results, but using the Pulsar 590A as a pair of wired headphones, instead of as a wireless pair, will give you an increase in fidelity." I think they have messed up something – for example, used the MS BT stack as the source (the article is two years old; that is, before WM6 with it hugely enhanced audio quality, which is now on par with the other mobile alternatives: BlackBerry, Symbian S40/S60 and Widcomm for Windows Mobile).
Some other, comparative shots I’ve made
Pulsar 590 vs. HT820 thickness difference (as can clearly be seen, the HT820 is definitely thicker)
Pulsar 590 vs. Cellink thickness difference
Pulsar 590 vs. Gear4 size difference
(Folded) size (note that the Gear4 BluPhones have a very flexible headband and, therefore, can be made even smaller to fit even the smallest shirt pockets)
Gear4 vs. Voyager (here, the left earbud)
Gear4 vs. Voyager (the entire headphones)
Voyager vs. 590 , both with extended microphone
Without extending them
From left to right: the charger of the 590, the Voyager and the Gear4. As can be seen, none of them are standard.
Wow! Stellar review.
I liked the pictures as well. It really helps to see what they look like on a person's head.
I personally own the HT820 headphones and I enjoy them a lot. I honestly don't see them as heavy and uncomfortable but hey then again I have a large head so that may be it right there.
kinda clunky ...yet still very cool! great reviews!
im still partial to my jabra bt 8010's
they work great and def get the job done, and i.m.o. still very stylish!
heres a great review on them.. blog.treonauts.com/2007/01/a2dp_stereo_blu.html
I use to have the Plantronics 590, and now I use the Plantronics 855. All of the reviews I've read do not mention the black dense foam tips for the 855 that were included in my package. In my experience, they provide a much better seal and deeper base than the silicone tips. They effectively close up your ear canal like cork in a bottle. They are bigger and harder than the silicone, so they may not be comfortable for everyone.
I use them with my Dell x51v with cooked wm6.1 rom. Sound quality on MS stack was decent, but I could not stand the drop outs. Much better quality with Widcomm stack. However, I have found the 855 very susceptible to outside interference. I get constant drop outs with either stack along New York City streets when exiting the subway. Everywhere else is usually fine. (I did not notice this previously with the 590).
I've been getting great use out of my Jabra BT3030. The best feature is the fact that I can plug in and use any 3.5mm headset that I want. The stock units are far from terrible, however. Second best is that I can charge it with any mini USB cable. Third best is the mic is built into the unit, not on an earpiece, so regular heaphones work fine.
I use the provided earbuds, as they fit well in my ears (your mileage may vary), and effectively block outside noise...an important factor when listening on a motorcycle! The rubber caps from my Griffin EarJams (I used these with my Wizard's stock headphones before buying the Jabra) fit on this device's headphones, so a better fit is within reach, even using stock headset.
One bone of contention: the "necklace" is a cheap P.O.S. dog-tag chain that rips at my hair. I removed the entire necklace and the loop, and use the included tension clip, and clip to collar or shirt pocket instead.
My only complaint is that they are not very loud. Fully maxed, I can easily hear over them when paired with my hacked AT&T Wizard (not originally provided with A2DP), and I get a LOT of skips when listening, unless I kill EVERYTHING else running on the phone while music is playing. Again, I contribute this to the phone's shortcomings more than the Jabra.
I've been using the Plantronics 855 with my Ipaq 6945 for a few months now. I have my music stored on my miniSD card, and found some of your previous articles on hacking line speed, etc very useful. It was necessary to improve the connection consistency with my particular phone and setup.
I find the frequency response good, with plenty of base. In agreement with your article, I did not find outside noise much of an issue due to the nature of the design.
I wear them during my trips to the gym, and one of my disappointments is that they tend to wiggle loose during exercise. I'm not sure any of this design would fare much better under those circumstances, however.
Also, I switched to the very smallest cushions (they come with three sizes) and my ear canals are still slightly smaller - so there is a bit of discomfort wearing them. I looked online for additional sizes, and cannot find any.
Your article was great, and it was nice to see the chart. This will be great for those interested in taking the plunge.
I have recently set my headset up with the bluetooth on my laptop too, and can now go completely cordless when I travel - a nice thing for those long plane rides.
nonpaq said:
I use to have the Plantronics 590, and now I use the Plantronics 855. All of the reviews I've read do not mention the black dense foam tips for the 855 that were included in my package. In my experience, they provide a much better seal and deeper base than the silicone tips. They effectively close up your ear canal like cork in a bottle. They are bigger and harder than the silicone, so they may not be comfortable for everyone.
I use them with my Dell x51v with cooked wm6.1 rom. Sound quality on MS stack was decent, but I could not stand the drop outs. Much better quality with Widcomm stack. However, I have found the 855 very susceptible to outside interference. I get constant drop outs with either stack along New York City streets when exiting the subway. Everywhere else is usually fine. (I did not notice this previously with the 590).
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Thanks for the feedback. I didn't find the 855 very sensitive to interference - the gear4 phones are MUCh worse in this respect. Will definitely give it a more through try. (just trying to discover my new tablet,sorry for not writing more - using the writing recognizer app. Not the FASTEST way to ENTER text).
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I wear them during my trips to the gym, and one of my disappointments is that they tend to wiggle loose during exercise. I'm not sure any of this design would fare much better under those circumstances, however.
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For this kind of usage, I recommend the 590 the MOst -I've done hours of Nordic Walking using the 590; they stayed on all the times. (Hmm, Starting to get a bit more speedy with entering text using writing recognition. tablets are indeed very cool!)
I tried many A2DP headsets and stick w/ Sony's HBH DS-220 (or DS-200 in silver) now.
Pro:
1. Good sound quality and good looking
2. Very small and portable
3. 3.5mm jack for any any headphone you want to change
4. **** Can charge battery while using it ***** (I found many A2DP would stop working while charing it, which is bad for car use)
Con:
1. a bit pricey. ~$70-80 in Amazon (common to all $ony's product)
2. no LCD backlight.
3. LCD only provide battery info (unlike DS980 which provide caller id and mp3 tag)
4. No dedicated button for adjusting the volume and it's very hard to adjust it (what is Sony thinking???)
Great review as always. I have asked this before but still not sure if it is possible...
Is anyone able to use A2DP headphones and watch videos at the same time with no lag? When I watch videos I don't even care about the sound quality I just want it to be wireless. I mean if there is a way to to decrease the sound quality maybe it will take up less processing power and therefore the video won't lag, is this possible?
Any settings or apps I can install to make this happen?
Hagow said:
Great review as always. I have asked this before but still not sure if it is possible...
Is anyone able to use A2DP headphones and watch videos at the same time with no lag? When I watch videos I don't even care about the sound quality I just want it to be wireless. I mean if there is a way to to decrease the sound quality maybe it will take up less processing power and therefore the video won't lag, is this possible?
Any settings or apps I can install to make this happen?
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You can manually configure the A/V offset in both TCPMP and CorePlayer to fix the problem. In the latter, it's in Tools / Preferences / Advanced / Manual A/V Offset +/- (at the bottom).
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You can manually configure the A/V offset in both TCPMP and CorePlayer to fix the problem. In the latter, it's in Tools / Preferences / Advanced / Manual A/V Offset +/- (at the bottom).
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When I say lag I mean that the videos virtually stops playing when I have audio going through BT A2Dp. It just doesn't play and stutters.
Mpow Magneto Bluetooth Headset Review
I was sent a free review sample of this bluetooth headset to review, below are my impressions, for those looking to pick up a nice and pretty unique headset.
UNBOXING, INITIAL IMPRESSIONS
The Magneto comes in a nice and slim box, the entire front of the box doubles as a flap that is held closed by a magnet. Swinging it open reveals the Magneto very tightly nestled inside of a velvet covered plastic holder that has been precision cut to fit the headset. Removing that reveals the included accessories, which are:
MicroUSB Cable
Small and Large Sized Eartips (Medium sized tips are already pre-mounted on the headset)
Small, Medium, and Large Rubber Ear Stabilizers
Manual Card
I was disappointed to see a lack of a carrying pouch or case of some sort among the accessories. Moreso because the Magneto headset itself is stunningly finished, with a very nice circular polished metal finish on its front face. I would hate to see it get scratched, so I do wish a carrying pouch had been included.
The headset itself is surprisingly large, much more so than I anticipated initially. It's also rather heavy, which isn't necessarily the best "feature" for an earphone to have. However as I discovered later, this wasn't really an issue.
The control pod is nicely made, with a full rubber coating, and 3 very clicky buttons.
CHARGING, BLUETOOTH PAIRING
The right earpiece contains a small rubber flap on top of the earpiece, which you flip open to reveal a microUSB port. The Magneto already comes pre-charged, however, it's still a good idea to top it off. A full charge takes 2 hours, which gives a playback time of 8 hours, and 175 hours of standby time.
To pair the headset, simply turn on bluetooth on your device, and hold down the central button on the Magneto's control pod. You'll hear a "Power On" prompt...continue to hold down the central button, and do not let it go. After 7 seconds, you'll hear another prompt say "Pairing", and a light will begin blinking orange, after which, you should see "Mpow Magneto" show up on your device. I didn't need a password, however if you do need to enter one, simply enter "0000". I found pairing to be effortless and very easy. The bluetooth spec is bluetooth 4.1.
Note that you can pair the Magneto with up to two devices. To pair a second device, make sure your first device's bluetooth is turned off, and then follow the pairing instructions again for the 2nd device. I was able to pair a 2nd device no problem.
PHYSICAL COMFORT
As mentioned, the Magneto is a rather bulky earphone, and there's no getting around the fact that it will stick out quite a bit in your ears. However, thanks to the inclusion of the rubber stabilizers, the Magneto's weight surprisingly disappeared, once in the ears. The 3 included tip sizes are all very nice and soft, and I had no issues using the Magneto for over an hour or longer. You can also wear the Magneto with the wire dangling below your chin, or behind your neck, to get the wire out of the way.
OPERATION
Once you've connected your device, to play music, press the central button on the control pod to play or pause the music. Next song is activated by long pressing the '-' button, and previous song is activated by long pressing the '+' button. Volume up and down involves short pressing the '=' and '-' buttons. There are no operations that allow you to fast forward or reverse through a song, you can only skip songs.
For phone calls, simply press the central button on the control pod to answer a call, and press the central button again to end the call. You can also hold down the central button as a call comes in, until you hear a "toot toot" prompt, to reject a call. Voice dialing is possible by holding down the central button and the '+' button simultaneously. Lastly, holding down the '+' and '-' button simultaneously will mute the microphone during a call.
The Magneto also has another very cool feature, from which it draws its name. The earpieces both have magnets embedded within them, and if you simply stick them together, your music will automatically pause (or your call will automatically end). Pulling the earpieces apart will play music again, or allow you to automatically answer an incoming call. My only concern with this feature is possibly scratching the nice metal finishing on the housings.
SOUND QUALITY
And here we have the most important part of any earphone: audio quality. I do consider myself an audio enthusiast, and this was my first time ever trying a bluetooth earphone, mostly because I've always assumed they just simply didn't sound as good as wired earphones.
At first listen, I was surprised at how clear the midrange to treble sounded. The treble didn't sound harsh or bright at all, and the midrange was smooth. As one might expect however with fairly inexpensive, sealed tip earphones, the bass can become rather overpowering at times. Strangely enough, I found this to be somewhat source material and volume related, rather than simply a permanent aspect of the Magneto. At lower volume levels, and when listening to more acoustic, instrumental material, the bass came across as defined and tight, without too much bloat. It was mostly midbass oriented however, and the bass doesn't get very deep. If I played tracks with more exciting basslines however, the bass could quickly get very boomy and overpowering, especially if the volume is turned up.
I also found that the Magneto tended to do instrumental music better than vocals, as vocals had a strangely laid back property, as if the singer were singing from a great distance from everything else. A bit jarring at first, but something that I got used to the more I listened to the Magneto.
CONCLUSION
I found the Magneto to be a very nicely made bluetooth headset, and was surprised by how good it sounded for a bluetooth earphone. Especially cool was its magnetic play/pause feature that has been built into the earpieces. At low to medium volumes, it has a very balanced sound, but the bass can get a bit overwhelming if you crank up the volume.
Thanks for the review. Can you address call quality? I'm mainly concerned how I would sound to the caller, talking through these.
By the way, I use this case for my current Aukey Bluetooth ear buds, which look to be about the same size. (It's less than $2)
http://www.amazon.com/Cosmos-Black-bluetooth-handsfree-headset/dp/B0057MLBLS/ref=sr_1_6
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Mpow Magneto Bluetooth Headset Review
I was sent a free review sample of this bluetooth headset to review, below are my impressions, for those looking to pick up a nice and pretty unique headset.
UNBOXING, INITIAL IMPRESSIONS
The Magneto comes in a nice and slim box, the entire front of the box doubles as a flap that is held closed by a magnet. Swinging it open reveals the Magneto very tightly nestled inside of a velvet covered plastic holder that has been precision cut to fit the headset. Removing that reveals the included accessories, which are:
MicroUSB Cable
Small and Large Sized Eartips (Medium sized tips are already pre-mounted on the headset)
Small, Medium, and Large Rubber Ear Stabilizers
Manual Card
I was disappointed to see a lack of a carrying pouch or case of some sort among the accessories. Moreso because the Magneto headset itself is stunningly finished, with a very nice circular polished metal finish on its front face. I would hate to see it get scratched, so I do wish a carrying pouch had been included.
The headset itself is surprisingly large, much more so than I anticipated initially. It's also rather heavy, which isn't necessarily the best "feature" for an earphone to have. However as I discovered later, this wasn't really an issue.
The control pod is nicely made, with a full rubber coating, and 3 very clicky buttons.
CHARGING, BLUETOOTH PAIRING
The right earpiece contains a small rubber flap on top of the earpiece, which you flip open to reveal a microUSB port. The Magneto already comes pre-charged, however, it's still a good idea to top it off. A full charge takes 2 hours, which gives a playback time of 8 hours, and 175 hours of standby time.
To pair the headset, simply turn on bluetooth on your device, and hold down the central button on the Magneto's control pod. You'll hear a "Power On" prompt...continue to hold down the central button, and do not let it go. After 7 seconds, you'll hear another prompt say "Pairing", and a light will begin blinking orange, after which, you should see "Mpow Magneto" show up on your device. I didn't need a password, however if you do need to enter one, simply enter "0000". I found pairing to be effortless and very easy. The bluetooth spec is bluetooth 4.1.
Note that you can pair the Magneto with up to two devices. To pair a second device, make sure your first device's bluetooth is turned off, and then follow the pairing instructions again for the 2nd device. I was able to pair a 2nd device no problem.
PHYSICAL COMFORT
As mentioned, the Magneto is a rather bulky earphone, and there's no getting around the fact that it will stick out quite a bit in your ears. However, thanks to the inclusion of the rubber stabilizers, the Magneto's weight surprisingly disappeared, once in the ears. The 3 included tip sizes are all very nice and soft, and I had no issues using the Magneto for over an hour or longer. You can also wear the Magneto with the wire dangling below your chin, or behind your neck, to get the wire out of the way.
OPERATION
Once you've connected your device, to play music, press the central button on the control pod to play or pause the music. Next song is activated by long pressing the '-' button, and previous song is activated by long pressing the '+' button. Volume up and down involves short pressing the '=' and '-' buttons. There are no operations that allow you to fast forward or reverse through a song, you can only skip songs.
For phone calls, simply press the central button on the control pod to answer a call, and press the central button again to end the call. You can also hold down the central button as a call comes in, until you hear a "toot toot" prompt, to reject a call. Voice dialing is possible by holding down the central button and the '+' button simultaneously. Lastly, holding down the '+' and '-' button simultaneously will mute the microphone during a call.
The Magneto also has another very cool feature, from which it draws its name. The earpieces both have magnets embedded within them, and if you simply stick them together, your music will automatically pause (or your call will automatically end). Pulling the earpieces apart will play music again, or allow you to automatically answer an incoming call. My only concern with this feature is possibly scratching the nice metal finishing on the housings.
SOUND QUALITY
And here we have the most important part of any earphone: audio quality. I do consider myself an audio enthusiast, and this was my first time ever trying a bluetooth earphone, mostly because I've always assumed they just simply didn't sound as good as wired earphones.
At first listen, I was surprised at how clear the midrange to treble sounded. The treble didn't sound harsh or bright at all, and the midrange was smooth. As one might expect however with fairly inexpensive, sealed tip earphones, the bass can become rather overpowering at times. Strangely enough, I found this to be somewhat source material and volume related, rather than simply a permanent aspect of the Magneto. At lower volume levels, and when listening to more acoustic, instrumental material, the bass came across as defined and tight, without too much bloat. It was mostly midbass oriented however, and the bass doesn't get very deep. If I played tracks with more exciting basslines however, the bass could quickly get very boomy and overpowering, especially if the volume is turned up.
I also found that the Magneto tended to do instrumental music better than vocals, as vocals had a strangely laid back property, as if the singer were singing from a great distance from everything else. A bit jarring at first, but something that I got used to the more I listened to the Magneto.
CONCLUSION
I found the Magneto to be a very nicely made bluetooth headset, and was surprised by how good it sounded for a bluetooth earphone. Especially cool was its magnetic play/pause feature that has been built into the earpieces. At low to medium volumes, it has a very balanced sound, but the bass can get a bit overwhelming if you crank up the volume.
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Im thinking of getting these but im worried about what i have read in reviews about poor bluetooth connectivity and that the connection dropped quite easily (for example, running with the phone on the back pocket or something like).
Did you experience poor bluetooth connectivity and range?
Thanks
Good review. Careful though. Some cool guy mod on here thinks its spamming to post a review for mpow.
The worst part is that these Mods dont´s seem to be consistent about looking at the reviews. Some guys are punished while others are still allowed to post reviews (with eg. Amazon links) inside.
My reviews have been considered to be "spammy", closed and all the links removed. I didn´t even have a chance to remove the links and did not receive a PM before where I was asked to kindly edit my work.
Instead I got a rather rude PM like this:
"Don't bother creating any more of your spammy reviews here thanks.
Your threads have been closed and the links to Amazon / Choetech etc. have been removed."
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The worst part is that these Mods dont´s seem to be consistent about looking at the reviews. Some guys are punished while others are still allowed to post reviews (with eg. Amazon links) inside.
My reviews have been considered to be "spammy", closed and all the links removed. I didn´t even have a chance to remove the links and did not receive a PM before where I was asked to kindly edit my work.
Instead I got a rather rude PM like this:
"Don't bother creating any more of your spammy reviews here thanks.
Your threads have been closed and the links to Amazon / Choetech etc. have been removed."
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Yeah they are actually pretty rude about it. Takes away the fun of being on these forums. Keyboard warriors on power trips taking down legitimate reviews to products.
griffin_1 said:
Im thinking of getting these but im worried about what i have read in reviews about poor bluetooth connectivity and that the connection dropped quite easily (for example, running with the phone on the back pocket or something like).
Did you experience poor bluetooth connectivity and range?
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yep 3 ft poor bluetooth
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yep 3 ft poor bluetooth
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Thats really a shame. Im finding a lot of conflicting reports on the range, some say its okay or something like 20 to 30 ft, but a lot of people also complain about poor range and distances like the one you get.
The magneto are already the most expensive ones of the selection of headphones im looking at and so to pay extra and get a bad headset wouldn't be good.
griffin_1 said:
Thats really a shame. Im finding a lot of conflicting reports on the range, some say its okay or something like 20 to 30 ft, but a lot of people also complain about poor range and distances like the one you get.
The magneto are already the most expensive ones of the selection of headphones im looking at and so to pay extra and get a bad headset wouldn't be good.
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With only save in your pocket start to lose connection :crying:
Con Solo GUARDAR en el bolsillo empiezan a perder Conexión :crying:
Versión magneto
Just to give some feedback (havent been active here for a while). I ended up going with the mpow swift and they work perfectly and i don't have these issues of dropping the connection right at the slightest change.
I would recommend the mpow swift as an alternative, they are not as stylish or compact but they are still light and work well.
Hate free sample reviews. How could you be unbiased/impartial if you don't even mention things like "oh btw, if your pocket is too far away they'll drop connection"?
That's kind of a big deal.
I bought the magneto and returned it the second day. a few issues:
1. poor sound. Well, can't expect too much from cheap bluetooth earphones anyway.
2. earphones are too heavy, so tend to fall off, or at least feels like they're about to fall off all the time.
3. bluetooth with my phone drops too frequently, I can't enjoy the music. This is probably just individual issue.
4. changing the soft earbuds is waaaaay too exhausting. The fitting is too tight to put on, it took me 10 minutes and lots of sweat to put them on.
I understand your issues. I asked myself if it is possible to reprogrammed the doubletab on the main button. Who the **** needs "Last number redial" on a short link. Better put there nothing or make it programmable as a selfie shutter :laugh: or start "OK Google" what ever but not redial :laugh: