Custom roms are cool and i like trying various ones. I chose this device over kiwi because it is improved in nearly every single way. But then i found something strange: this device is nowhere near as popular as kiwi among devs. Kiwi has official aosip, will get official lineage 15 etc. After some research i found out that other kirin devices share the same fate, more or less. So i'm curious: is it something in kirin itself that makes it harder for devs or what? A detailed explanation or a link to one would really be apreciated. Thanks.
I'm not a developer or anything like that but I've had this device now for a few months and I read many of these threads so I know a bit. The problem with the Kirins is that the source code that is needed to build a custom ROM is not official. Huawei/Honor did not make them official so devs will have to work around it I think. But as I said I'm not sure and might be misunderstanding it since I'm not a developer but I hope could help you out to some extend
There are a few custom ROMs being built right now and some are even usable und Fluid the devs did a great job with them
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Amphibius2 said:
I'm not a developer or anything like that but I've had this device now for a few months and I read many of these threads so I know a bit. The problem with the Kirins is that the source code that is needed to build a custom ROM is not official. Huawei/Honor did not make them official so devs will have to work around it I think. But as I said I'm not sure and might be misunderstanding it since I'm not a developer but I hope could help you out to some extend
There are a few custom ROMs being built right now and some are even usable und Fluid the devs did a great job with them
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That is the reason why building ROM's for kirin rom's is difficult. Devs need to work extra hard and find a different approach .
Until Huawei will keep Kirin closed-source, things won't be easy... I'm really demoralized about this, Qualcomm is light-years away from Huawei on third-party development world.
That's the downside about Kirin. But on the bright side, it is also the reason why Honor phones are more affordable.
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That's the downside about Kirin. But on the bright side, it is also the reason why Honor phones are more affordable.
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It's sad because Kirin handle the phone in an excellent manner referring to RAM usage and avoiding heats, it could show some real potential if people could tweak with it.
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It's sad because Kirin handle the phone in an excellent manner referring to RAM usage and avoiding heats, it could show some real potential if people could tweak with it.
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Hardware wise this is just excellent phone but as you said QC is way ahead, hope Kirin do well in future with custom ROM support. Devs really put some extra effort on Kirin to have some stock Android for us but they too have limitations
Anything can change. Who knows maybe in the next 5 years Kirin is already as open as Snapdragon.
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Hardware wise this is just excellent phone but as you said QC is way ahead, hope Kirin do well in future with custom ROM support. Devs really out some extra effort on Kirin to have some stock Android for us but they too have limitations
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Hope that too man, honestly if things won't change in future i won't be much motivated to buy an Honor/Huawei device.
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Anything can change. Who knows maybe in the next 5 years Kirin is already as open as Snapdragon.
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5 years?! Ok, that would be disappointing enough to just definitely DON'T buy a Huawei phone in future :silly:
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Hope that too man, honestly if things won't change in future i won't be much motivated to buy an Honor/Huawei device.
5 years?! Ok, that would be disappointing enough to just definitely DON'T buy a Huawei phone in future :silly:
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Like I said, anything can change.
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Until Huawei will keep Kirin closed-source, things won't be easy... I'm really demoralized about this, Qualcomm is light-years away from Huawei on third-party development world.
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And yet people build roms for kirin devices. That's really impressive. We have some really commited devs
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And yet people build roms for kirin devices. That's really impressive. We have some really commited devs
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That's right. Yet some people still demands uneccessarily.
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Like I said, anything can change.
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We'll see, hope so.
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And yet people build roms for kirin devices. That's really impressive. We have some really commited devs
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Yes, luckily ROMs are based mostly on Pure Android OS, without modifcations on the environment. Hardware compatibility with the ROM it's harder to reproduce if the work that you have to do is on unknown processor sources
We just hope for the betterment of this.
What sources exactly are missing for Kirin? Kernel sources are there, drivers can be used with original binaries if you refactor the interfaces...
For other devices I already decompiled camera libraries because these are regularly closed.
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Hello everybody, I don't know if you all are familiar with this new API, it seems like is very promising and I have read that it will bring mobile gaming to a new level. Look for more info on google, its pretty interesting.
Now, the Galaxy S7 is the first phone that will come with this API, my question is, do you think that our phone will support it? For now we have OpenGL ES and Vulkan is gonna be way faster, hopefully will get this, since is just a software update. What you guys think?
So, no body interesting in this matter?
This place is always pretty dead...
I have the new Marshmallow update on my Nvidia Shield TV which has the new Vulkan API. I have not had a chance yet to try a game that utilizes the API but from what I read on the topic, it makes a big difference less processing power required, higher frame-rates, etc. There's a few examples of the API in use on YouTube also that show some side by sides.
According to this article, these are the current games that support the API with Marshmallow. "Real Racing 3, Oddworld Munch’s Oddysee, Minecraft Story Mode, Metal Gear Rising Revengeance, and Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories."
So, now that we have marshmallow, is there any way to get Vulkan on pur phones? Anybody?
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It's not available yet
Most likely not. Samsung, I doubt, will be issuing any more updates to this phone that aren't simply minor incremental updates or security patches. I don't believe a developer can make this into a stock rom as well but I could be wrong.
On the extreme side of things, from what I have read, N will is being built with Vulkan in mind or at least to a degree. It might be easier to add it then to a phone on N if the manufacturer doesn't include the API.
I wish I was wrong but given Samsung's track record and how long it took for MM to come, N is going to be a Note 6 and up deal.
Now if we had a viable aosp rom then I would say it's possible but that definately won't happen anytime soon or likely ever.
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Most likely not. Samsung, I doubt, will be issuing any more updates to this phone that aren't simply minor incremental updates or security patches. I don't believe a developer can make this into a stock rom as well but I could be wrong.
On the extreme side of things, from what I have read, N will is being built with Vulkan in mind or at least to a degree. It might be easier to add it then to a phone on N if the manufacturer doesn't include the API.
I wish I was wrong but given Samsung's track record and how long it took for MM to come, N is going to be a Note 6 and up deal.
Now if we had a viable aosp rom then I would say it's possible but that definately won't happen anytime soon or likely ever.
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Aosp COULD happen...RaymanFX has been working on porting cm13 to our device and there's currently folks looking to get him a exynos 7420 dev device in a fundraiser thread that has quite a few donations, and about 2 days ago (maybe 3?) he just merged the pd1 source, if you follow his github, you can maybe decider a little more effectively than myself just how close he is to a booting compile...
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Aosp COULD happen...RaymanFX has been working on porting cm13 to our device and there's currently folks looking to get him a exynos 7420 dev device in a fundraiser thread that has quite a few donations, and about 2 days ago (maybe 3?) he just merged the pd1 source, if you follow his github, you can maybe decider a little more effectively than myself just how close he is to a booting compile...
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This is refreshing to hear and I'm glad you are proving me wrong in this aspect. Thank you for the update.
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NXLTrauma25 said:
This is refreshing to hear and I'm glad you are proving me wrong in this aspect. Thank you for the update.
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Well, it hasn't happened yet, but all hope isn't as lost as you maybe thought, at least! So there's that! Lol
Any news???
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For anyone interested there's a booting unreleased version of cm13 out...it's buggy and early but it boots! RaymanFX has done a great job with truly uncharted waters!
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For anyone interested there's a booting unreleased version of cm13 out...it's buggy and early but it boots! RaymanFX has done a great job with truly uncharted waters!
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CM has always had issues, even using Qualcomm SoCs that have the developer documentation behind them that the Exynos does not. I doubt there will ever be a stable CM or any other AOSP build. Stable enough for daily use, maybe, but things will always be broken.
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CM has always had issues, even using Qualcomm SoCs that have the developer documentation behind them that the Exynos does not. I doubt there will ever be a stable CM or any other AOSP build. Stable enough for daily use, maybe, but things will always be broken.
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Indeed, i think you're correct there.
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I know there someone on xda that has ported S7 romantic to the Note 5. I asked about the functionality ofor Vulkan. Had not heard back.
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I know there someone on xda that has ported S7 romantic to the Note 5. I asked about the functionality ofor Vulkan. Had not heard back.
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There's lots of s7 rom ports...
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As already been know, no custom roms were developed for Kirin proccesor?
Any chance for Honor 8 to receive one?
I like the phone, but not the UI...
We are working directly with Honor to get the proper assets needed for open development. It is a work in progress and we should know a lot more in the coming weeks.
If what the articles on XDA and what @svetius say are true, we should have all the required files to start building custom roms. Question is, with the recent release of N, are the to be provided Honor files going to be for M or N?
If anyone is interested, I have uploaded some documentation about the experience of developing custom roms to prior Kirin devices https://github.com/HiSilicon-Kirin/Documentation
It's pretty basic at the moment but if someone wants to read it you might find it helpful for future development.
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As already been know, no custom roms were developed for Kirin proccesor?
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Thst's not true https://github.com/P8LiteDev/android_device_huawei_hi6210sft
Ok, my bad and I apologize .... and I rephrase - existing custom roms on previous Kirins are far from being fully functional.
But good news for future development and thanks everybody for replies.
As for the free lesson....
I have to buy a new phone soon as my z3c is experiencing touch problems (I'm out of warranty because i unlocked the bl...) plus there is no good development for it, and this honor 8 would completely meet my needs. but I'll wait first to see if good development for it will really arrive, otherwise will have to buy something else. really hope so though, also considering the amount of good advertising it is receiving in this forum!
i really like recent huawei phones, my gf has one (g8) which is very nice, but I've never got one myself because of the poor development i found for them.. so i hope some good devs will get this one in particular not too late and be able to properly work on it :fingers-crossed:
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I have to buy a new phone soon as my z3c is experiencing touch problems (I'm out of warranty because i unlocked the bl...)
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Not true, European laws state that if your phone is defective and you want to use the warranty, the OEM has to prove the malfunction was caused by your modifications. In most cases, unlocking the bootloader won't void your warranty. At least in Europe.
I've sent a few of my previous phones for repairs after flashing custom ROMs... And never had a problem. At least try, even if you want to buy the H8, your Z3c might be repaired regardless, and you would have a fully functional backup phone
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Ok, my bad and I apologize .... and I rephrase - existing custom roms on previous Kirins are far from being fully functional.
But good news for future development and thanks everybody for replies.
As for the free lesson....
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There was no big support that's why, but now honor is providing key devs anything they need to make the honor 8 great, let's hope for nougat
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Not true, European laws state that if your phone is defective and you want to use the warranty, the OEM has to prove the malfunction was caused by your modifications. In most cases, unlocking the bootloader won't void your warranty. At least in Europe.
I've sent a few of my previous phones for repairs after flashing custom ROMs... And never had a problem. At least try, even if you want to buy the H8, your Z3c might be repaired regardless, and you would have a fully functional backup phone
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thanks, I know myself that is clearly true, but I have already tried, and they do not accept the in-warranty reparation, considering I am now blacklisted in their SW as last time I sent it for repair (again for a z3c famous and common defect on the magnetic port coming out, so nothing relevant to unlocking/flashing custom roms etc) they returned my phone not repaired because it was unlocked...
Well, honor 8 should get custom ROMs
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I have to buy a new phone soon as my z3c is experiencing touch problems (I'm out of warranty because i unlocked the bl...) plus there is no good development for it, and this honor 8 would completely meet my needs. but I'll wait first to see if good development for it will really arrive, otherwise will have to buy something else. really hope so though, also considering the amount of good advertising it is receiving in this forum!
i really like recent huawei phones, my gf has one (g8) which is very nice, but I've never got one myself because of the poor development i found for them.. so i hope some good devs will get this one in particular not too late and be able to properly work on it :fingers-crossed:
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If you want to try an honor phone with Great Rom support look no further than the 5X (GR5) >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-5x
Personally I will pass on the Honor 8 because of the smaller screen size and the kirin processor
yeah i did read about it in this forum but i prefer honor 8 because of the smaller screen I'm the opposite, don't like too big phones actually honor 8 would be even a little too big for me, but could buy it anyway and that's really the maximum size allowed for me processor will be fine as long as development will arrive, if not will probably buy a mi5
Can do a custom rom, but first need a firmware.
If I decide to get this phone, and support for custom ROM's becomes a thing, I feel like the best feature in custom ROM's would be tweaks to the Smart Key aka the fingerprint sensor. Just like with my OnePlus X, many custom ROM's let you set the alert slider for silence, vibrate, ring, or the default DND/priority notification toggle. So I feel like instead of only being able to set 3 functions to the Smart Key, tweaks would allow it to have more than 3 and set it for things that the system doesn't normally allow. That would be awesome in my opinion.
Previously till now, Kirin processor is always a deal breaker for me. I own a Honor 4X with CM12.1 installed.
No custom ROM avaliablity meaning only HUAWEI can provide future updates to us, that's not a good news.
honestly, i am also hesitant about the kirin processor.
i went on a mall last sunday to check the p9 which is most likely the same look except for the hardware and i dont know if i can really take something not close to vanilla android.. but im actually hopeful.. im confused.
yes chance for custom roms
we can expect custom roms for honor 8 in near future but developers work in their leisure time to build custom roms so wait until the kernel sources are released by huawei once they are released there will be different AOSP/cyanogen based ROMS for honor 8.
but never ask for ETAs:angel:
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we can expect custom roms for honor 8 in near future but developers work in their leisure time to build custom roms so wait until the kernel sources are released by huawei once they are released there will be different AOSP/cyanogen based ROMS for honor 8.
but never ask for ETAs:angel:
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It isn't the kernel source what's needed to build roms (although it's useful), but proper documentation from them.
Huawei nova has SD625, if u not want honor 8
Once they release proper files needed to start development, then we have pretty good devs out there who will start working on ROM immediately.
I'm wondering what is up with the development scene on this phone. I don't want to be one of those guys who is always being impatient about when a rom is coming out or whatever but just curious.
Have the sources been released for new kernels and ROMS but no one is working on this phone or are we still waiting for a proper source for devs to work on?
tbh the stock firmware, rooted with the material theme is pretty killer. im sure in time we will get aosp based roms. its worth the buy. if your a crack flasher the only devices i can recommend is a nexus 5x or 6p.
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I'm wondering what is up with the development scene on this phone. I don't want to be one of those guys who is always being impatient about when a rom is coming out or whatever but just curious.
Have the sources been released for new kernels and ROMS but no one is working on this phone or are we still waiting for a proper source for devs to work on?
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You are waiting for a proper developer, not for a proper source.
If you checked older Huawei devices forums on xda you'll find it going the same way with almost same developers, I have honor 7 and most of what we got is emui roms with few tweaks and kangvip settings. I think this is the best we will get for a while.
You should check how other devices development is going because I don't think honor 8 will be any different.
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muhammad Shohayeb said:
If you checked older Huawei devices forums on xda you'll find it going the same way with almost same developers, I have honor 7 and most of what we got is emui roms with few tweaks and kangvip settings. I think this is the best we will get for a while.
You should check how other devices development is going because I don't think honor 8 will be any different.
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The XDA partnership started with the Honor 8 right? I'm hoping that will make it different.
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The XDA partnership started with the Honor 8 right? I'm hoping that will make it different.
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It has been more than 2 months. Still no improvement has been made
Well sometimes things take a while and we need to be patient (I know cause I work ssllooooooowwwwwwww).
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You are waiting for a proper developer, not for a proper source.
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Well if a proper developer shows up, I'm willing to provide support (non-monetary)
With my limited knowledge I don't feel confident starting a project like this.
I guess EMUI rom with a few tweaks is what I would start with. Better than nothing.
Some progress made on P9, hope it come to Honor 8 soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/p9/development/rom-t3483134/page1
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Some progress made on P9, hope it come to Honor 8 soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/p9/development/rom-t3483134/page1
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Nice! Seems promising. Would this do anything for the Honor 8? The P9 and Honor 8 aren't exactly very different in terms of SoC, the 955 is basically an overclocked 950.
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Some progress made on P9, hope it come to Honor 8 soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/p9/development/rom-t3483134/page1
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Nice! Seems promising. Would this do anything for the Honor 8? The P9 and Honor 8 aren't exactly very different in terms of SoC, the 955 is basically an overclocked 950.
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There is Light at the end of the road. Hope so it reaches us soon for our travel to our destination...
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Nice! Seems promising. Would this do anything for the Honor 8? The P9 and Honor 8 aren't exactly very different in terms of SoC, the 955 is basically an overclocked 950.
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There is Light at the end of the road. Hope so it reaches us soon for our travel to our destination...
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I'm pretty sure the HiSilicon Kirin 950 is the problem as most developers work with the Qualcomm Snapdragon
MediaTek phone's get the same treatment, very little development aside from modified stock roms
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tbh the stock firmware, rooted with the material theme is pretty killer. im sure in time we will get aosp based roms. its worth the buy. if your a crack flasher the only devices i can recommend is a nexus 5x or 6p.
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Yea! I will definitely take stock rooted, than no root at all. Patience...it will come!
Tbh this the first device I actually don't miss custom Roms. I mean I wouldn't mind a custom kernel and ambient display but it's almost perfect as in. Not a fan of cm but I'd be for a pure Nexus type from. The axon 7 has the same issues with virtually no development. This phone smokes that one in terms of fluidity out of the box.
The question is what development. Usually it means improvements.
But Huawei is just doing a fine job on improving other device´s ROM´s and H8 will not be an exception.
This phone is like a few months old. It takes more or less a year to have a solid development.
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So far only thing we can do is waiting...
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So far only thing we can do is waiting...
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Waiting amd requesting to Huawei.
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If it has not already been done is protest to Huawei & Honor to release all materials for the Android community to develop their devices. If this has already been done we need a public link where we all can sign up and address such matters. A public Web page, while He Huawei Honor are making great sales it would seem their not to bothered in helping the free development of their devices...
Huawei Honor come on help us help you
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If it has not already been done is protest to Huawei & Honor to release all materials for the Android community to develop their devices. If this has already been done we need a public link where we all can sign up and address such matters. A public Web page, while He Huawei Honor are making great sales it would seem their not to bothered in helping the free development of their devices...
Huawei Honor come on help us help you
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It has been already done. We made a formal request to a Honor employee (because of the Honor Hub) and we just received instructions for compiling the kernel. Don't expect them to release anything, this isn't the first time, it happens with all of their phones.
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It has been already done. We made a formal request to a Honor employee (because of the Honor Hub) and we just received instructions for compiling the kernel. Don't expect them to release anything, this isn't the first time, it happens with all of their phones.
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Then the probability of Honor 8 getting AOSP will be low.
Hi
Don't know if anyone has asked this question but is any dev or the lineage team itself working on a native version of lineage is 14.1 for the mate 9 ?
Havnt bought the phone yet but if its getting lineage is I will definitely buy it.
All answers appreciated ,
Thanks.
Hali666 said:
Hi
Don't know if anyone has asked this question but is any dev or the lineage team itself working on a native version of lineage is 14.1 for the mate 9 ?
Havnt bought the phone yet but if its getting lineage is I will definitely buy it.
All answers appreciated ,
Thanks.
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Hi,
Huawei won't release the kernel, so developing a ROM such as LAOS i quite difficult. So no develepment yet.
CodeRR said:
Hi,
Huawei won't release the kernel, so developing a ROM such as LAOS i quite difficult. So no develepment yet.
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any chances are they release kernel later?
hi
linage os will be there
version 14.1
android version 7.1.1
release first months of 2017
Source : lineagerom.com
greetz benji
Its coming soon!
Official source says first half of 2017. See official info here ===> http://lineagerom.com/huawei-mate-9-lineage-nougat-update/
Interesting news maybe if it's out I unlock my bootloader and go for it :good: now still locked and on stock
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Interesting news maybe if it's out I unlock my bootloader and go for it :good: now still locked and on stock
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Agreed, I'm not touching mine until official LOS drops. The stock rom is surprisingly good, tons of great features. Huawei did a fantastic job on this phone!
DanDroidOS said:
Agreed, I'm not touching mine until official LOS drops. The stock rom is surprisingly good, tons of great features. Huawei did a fantastic job on this phone!
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Yap absolutely, Huawei did a really great job on this phone :good:
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DanDroidOS said:
Agreed, I'm not touching mine until official LOS drops. The stock rom is surprisingly good, tons of great features. Huawei did a fantastic job on this phone!
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Hi. Agree about sticking with stock for now. Is there a link that describes in detail what features are on Lineage roms. I've looked around and all I find are download sites but little description of rom itself. Thanks!
My opinion is also this is the best stock rom i ever used!
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Hi. Agree about sticking with stock for now. Is there a link that describes in detail what features are on Lineage roms. I've looked around and all I find are download sites but little description of rom itself. Thanks!
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hi
same a cm 14.1
greetz benji
mscion said:
Hi. Agree about sticking with stock for now. Is there a link that describes in detail what features are on Lineage roms. I've looked around and all I find are download sites but little description of rom itself. Thanks!
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I would look here ====> https://github.com/lineageos
I'm kind of surprised that there isn't any builds or projects going seeing as how Huawei actually released the sources. For many less than popular phones that I've had in the past, not having source codes and drivers was usually the problem. Sadly on this phone, the problem is that so very few people especially devs know about it's excellence Our best and pretty much only hope is something getting ported over from the OpenKirin projects on other Kirin powered phones.
I do agree with the others though that the stock software on this phone is very good, fast, lasts long and isn't obnoxiously skinned liked TouchWiz and LG phones. So it's not the end of the world. I do hope the Mate 10 takes of though seeing as how great the 9 was, I'm all over a 10 when it drops relatively soon!!! :fingers-crossed:
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I'm kind of surprised that there isn't any builds or projects going seeing as how Huawei actually released the sources. For many less than popular phones that I've had in the past, not having source codes and drivers was usually the problem. Sadly on this phone, the problem is that so very few people especially devs know about it's excellence Our best and pretty much only hope is something getting ported over from the OpenKirin projects on other Kirin powered phones.
I do agree with the others though that the stock software on this phone is very good, fast, lasts long and isn't obnoxiously skinned liked TouchWiz and LG phones. So it's not the end of the world. I do hope the Mate 10 takes of though seeing as how great the 9 was, I'm all over a 10 when it drops relatively soon!!! :fingers-crossed:
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The problem is that the camera doesn't work with the sources from huawei. :/
benjmiester said:
I'm kind of surprised that there isn't any builds or projects going seeing as how Huawei actually released the sources. For many less than popular phones that I've had in the past, not having source codes and drivers was usually the problem. Sadly on this phone, the problem is that so very few people especially devs know about it's excellence Our best and pretty much only hope is something getting ported over from the OpenKirin projects on other Kirin powered phones.
I do agree with the others though that the stock software on this phone is very good, fast, lasts long and isn't obnoxiously skinned liked TouchWiz and LG phones. So it's not the end of the world. I do hope the Mate 10 takes of though seeing as how great the 9 was, I'm all over a 10 when it drops relatively soon!!! :fingers-crossed:
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I think this is the problem, HM9 have a great stock ROM, and it is hard to devs to bring something better without compromises.
I tried Mi Mix last few days with different ROMS, and now I'm coming back to HM9 because, it is a better phone overall, the software is very fast and responsive and have little tweaks that are usefull, such as blocking internet access per app (wifi and carrier). The camera software is also very good in my opinion.
I just read that there's a new Reserrection Remix (aosp based rom) for Honor 9. It's the same Kirin 960 chipset.
From https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-9/development/rom-t3654876
Kernel GPLv2 compliant : This custom ROM, uses a stock EMUI 5.1 (B130) kernel image !
Very sad that there is no Lineage OS, even that now the kernel source is available.
I just bought a Mate 9 L29 second hand (can't take it back now) and I am very disappointed by that damn ugly (G)UI called EMUI 5.1.
I had a EMUI 4 device in the past and I made a MIUI like theme for it combining icons and existing themes. Then I had some Xiaomi devices, and MIUI really is eye candy.
Seeing the damn ugly EMUI GUI (and all those bull**** themes available) I wish I could have an AOSP or Lineage ROM for it.
The hardware is quite good. Display is OK, SoC is kinda fast and the sound system sounds nice.
So, f**** Huawei for messing up that bad regarding the look and feel of EMUI 5(.1) - I had a look at EMUI 8 - it's damn ugly too.
Shame on the Huawei product design team in that case. They had some UI designer from Apple for EMUI 5 (she quit then), and
I wonder how things could have gone so damn wrong. Have a look at pure Android, MIUI or flyme OS or even ZUI or discontinued IUNI os, that is eye candy.
EMUI makes me wanna vomit.
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t-ryder said:
Very sad that there is no Lineage OS, even that now the kernel source is available.
I just bought a Mate 9 L29 second hand (can't take it back now) and I am very disappointed by that damn ugly (G)UI called EMUI 5.1.
I had a EMUI 4 device in the past and I made a MIUI like theme for it combining icons and existing themes. Then I had some Xiaomi devices, and MIUI really is eye candy.
Seeing the damn ugly EMUI GUI (and all those bull**** themes available) I wish I could have an AOSP or Lineage ROM for it.
The hardware is quite good. Display is OK, SoC is kinda fast and the sound system sounds nice.
So, f**** Huawei for messing up that bad regarding the look and feel of EMUI 5(.1) - I had a look at EMUI 8 - it's damn ugly too.
Shame on the Huawei product design team in that case. They had some UI designer from Apple for EMUI 5 (she quit then), and
I wonder how things could have gone so damn wrong. Have a look at pure Android, MIUI or flyme OS or even ZUI or discontinued IUNI os, that is eye candy.
EMUI makes me wanna vomit.
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Well, sell it or put a different launcher on the damn thing then, that's one good thing about Android, you're always free to change it. I don't like EMUI either so I run the pixel 2 launcher on mine. As far as lineage goes, unless a developer decides to pick it up you're sol, Huawei might have released the general source to the OS but there is a lot of closed source drivers for the hardware that is not released and unless those drivers are open sourced lineage is out of the question except for the individual developer
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Well, sell it or put a different launcher on the damn thing then, that's one good thing about Android, you're always free to change it. I don't like EMUI either so I run the pixel 2 launcher on mine. As far as lineage goes, unless a developer decides to pick it up you're sol, Huawei might have released the general source to the OS but there is a lot of closed source drivers for the hardware that is not released and unless those drivers are open sourced lineage is out of the question except for the individual developer
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What exactly is the problem with the camera in the kernel source released by Huawei?
And how'd you get to know about this, did anyone try to compile the kernel.... or maybe even a rom?
I might try it, but first I want to know this piece of info, to get the picture completed
You can trust me, and if you don't. Just check my profile, I've even made Android 5.1.1 for the S1
So, please give me the needed details, and I might be starting tomorrow
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I have had a quick look, and it looks like the Mate 9 Pro and the Honor 9 uses the exact same rear camera setup (So, both camera's on the back )
as the title says i wonder why there is so "little" development for the i9lite going on
i thought a device with this great specs for such a little price would be very interesting, but when you look at similar devices as the 9t or 9t pro there is a lot more of development
don't get me wrong i really thank all the devs that work on the i9lite right now, but i am a little bit worried as the a2 lite i have right now is also a great device but without much development there are only a few custom roms and and a hardly working twrp for it
my i 9lite is actually on the way to me, but right now i am really afraid that i will get in the same problem as with the a2 lite that there is absolutely no interest for the devs to work for this device.
Maybe the 9t(pro) would have been the better decision regarding this, but i really do not like the front cam of the T devices
I wish i could do a little developing for custom roms myself but i do not have the skills :crying: -
what do you guys think about it or you you have no concerns in this direction and you are really happy with the i9lite an how things are at the moment ?
I'm the same as you, waiting for mine to arrive.
Moving from Moto g5 plus it looks pretty quiet here.
I hope we can get a decent gcam at least
I don't know about other countries but in France the Mi 9 Lite just started becoming available through carriers. It might be that there are just less people equipped with that phone for now. I will also get a Mi 9 lite, there is already Lineage and GSI, so the roms I'm most interested in are there already.
Just reading from telegram group. One developer (coderzs)is ready to make base tree(I'm not sure of the term),also a recognized developer of mia2 lineage and other custom rom fo a2. But they trying to raise fund to get the device. I think it's just a matter of time and we can see a lot custom here in xda. Just follow the telegram group,search for mi9t lite/Cc9 global.
For there to be active development and/or many developers, the device must be widely available and relatively popular. You can't expect all those things to be a fact barely few months after device release. Seeing as it has great specs and is reasonably priced, it's just a matter of time until the device becomes interesting to developers.
Also, a word of advice - nobody likes doing stuff for free for a pushy user base.
shhnedo said:
Also, a word of advice - nobody likes doing stuff for free for a pushy user base.
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that is absolutly clear, also i really apriciate all the work that the devs do in their freetime and for free, my opening post is absolutly not meant in this direction.
i am grateful that there is this great modding community that gives us a lot of opportunities that the manufacturers themselves do not even they get paid for it.
i am only worried as custom roms is the only way to have a long life for the smartphone as you still get new android versions when the manufacturer is only releasing security updates or nothing at all at a certain point.
so i hope you are right and that its only a matter of time
@Kadyo
a that sounds interesting i hope i can find this group as i am not so familiar with this telegram, i would also like to spend a certain amount to get the i9lite for the dev (maybe you can pm me the group if its not against xda's rules)
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that is absolutly clear, also i really apriciate all the work that the devs do in their freetime and for free, my opening post is absolutly not meant in this direction.
i am grateful that there is this great modding community that gives us a lot of opportunities that the manufacturers themselves do not even they get paid for it.
i am only worried as custom roms is the only way to have a long life for the smartphone as you still get new android versions when the manufacturer is only releasing security updates or nothing at all at a certain point.
so i hope you are right and that its only a matter of time
@Kadyo
a that sounds interesting i hope i can find this group as i am not so familiar with this telegram, i would also like to spend a certain amount to get the i9lite for the dev (maybe you can pm me the group if its not against xda's rules)
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MOD EDIT: Telegram link removed, read the STICKY!
A huge factor in ROM development is the geographic area in which the device is popular. Most developers for Xiaomi phones are from India which is an incredibly competitive market where, frankly, this phone makes little sense: the Mi 9T with basically the same specs is only marginally more expensive, and the latest Redmi is waaaaaaay cheaper. Now, in Europe the Mi 9 Lite makes more sense for the price bracket it's in, but for some reason the developer scene in European countries is lackluster at best. Fortunately, Russia is another country famously active for Android developing and, apparently, this phone is doing fairly well there.
As someone mentioned early, we're currently trying to buy and send a Mi 9 Lite to a ROM developer, so depending on how this ends we may be able to get this forum moving a bit
In the meantime, my standard response is the usual: if you really can't stand MIUI, give GSIs a shot! They're far better than I thought!
iuliusdeblobbis said:
Most developers for Xiaomi phones are from India which is an incredibly competitive market where, frankly, this phone makes little sense: the Mi 9T with basically the same specs is only marginally more expensive, and the latest Redmi is waaaaaaay cheaper. Now, in Europe the Mi 9 Lite makes more sense for the price bracket it's in
As someone mentioned early, we're currently trying to buy and send a Mi 9 Lite to a ROM developer, so depending on how this ends we may be able to get this forum moving a bit
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It's not yet released in India, is it? That might also be a reason for why there's not a lot going on yet. I do think it is weirdly priced in Europe as well. It's a bit disheartening to see there's not a lot going on (yet, hopefully!) in terms of custom ROMs, but I've never used a custom ROM before on either of my phone and I don't intend to play around with ROMs anyway.
But nice to hear you guys try to get a phone to a ROM developer!
thanks for all your suggestions and opinions so far, will try to get onto telegram this weekend and see how this works.
I've Purchased Mi9Lite About 2 Month Ago(Iran- From Abu Dubai) , Device is Great For Price (350-400$ In My Country! ) in Compare to other devices like RN8P
But development???
There's Even No Ported Gcam For Mi9Lite and Stock Camera Quality is awful
Custom Roms? Hmmn I'd rather to use more stable versions
But there's still a hope, In Russian Forums (4pda) some devs r developing kangaroo kernel for this device
MIUI Rom Are So Smooth but have little bugs and they're annoying like app freezing while using VPN!
amirinjast said:
There's Even No Ported Gcam For Mi9Lite and Stock Camera Quality is awful
Custom Roms? Hmmn I'd rather to use more stable versions
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-cc9/development
we have the basics, which is TWRP and a way to flash GSIs, there's not really any need for anything else tbh, the days of specific devices development are behind
I bought mi 9 lite for 217$ month ago. This is the best choice of Mi9/Mi9T because of its price and card slot.
This smartfon had working LOS 2 months after world release! Now LOS is ebought mature for use it as daily driver. With ported gcam is absolutely amasing. My old xperia z3c waited years for first LOS, and up to 5 years for OFFICIAL version of LOS.
If Mi9 will sell itself very good, we will see many other custom roms.
I will stay with LOS, because is the best for me.
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we have the basics, which is TWRP and a way to flash GSIs, there's not really any need for anything else tbh, the days of specific devices development are behind
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Even with GSI, I could not make the camera work satisfactorily and rom to pass the safetynet, and the statusbar does not display the icons properly ...
I have the mi a3 and I'm looking at the 9 lite for the bigger and more high res screen. But yeah there's definitely more development for the a3 though it was officially launched in September vs July (according to gsmarena). I do hope we get more devs for this phone, because it seems like a good one. I'm already stretching my budget with the 9 lite. I don't want to stretch more with the 9t
It's just not that popular as other devices are right now..
I just purchased it though, looking nice, when I get it first thing I'll do will be unlocking BL.
I think this phone has not released yet (or released very recently) in India, this will boost activity a lot.
Just kinda surprised custom recovery is not at the official twrp site yet.
xzn1 said:
It's not yet released in India, is it? That might also be a reason for why there's not a lot going on yet. I do think it is weirdly priced in Europe as well. It's a bit disheartening to see there's not a lot going on (yet, hopefully!) in terms of custom ROMs, but I've never used a custom ROM before on either of my phone and I don't intend to play around with ROMs anyway.
But nice to hear you guys try to get a phone to a ROM developer!
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Mi Cc9 was released in India 9 months ago or so. The Mi9 Lite is a rebranded CC9. The specs are all the same afaik.
I made a mistake. See the next reply.