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Hi all,
I sat on my Fuze, short and simple. There is now a weird crack on the screen. I am very familiar with what a broken LCD looks like, there is no LCD "liquid" oozing all over the place, and the picture is not distorted in any way. It looks like some kind of lens INSIDE might be broken, and I think it's the digitizer. The cracks stop once they get to the dark grey at&t/HTC border around the screen, even though I hit very close to it, so whatever I cracked is under the top lens/protector.
Also, I read online (albeit at a cell phone repair website) that you can't replace the digitizer without ruining the LCD. Is there any merit to this, or are they just trying to convince people to pay their obscene $149 to replace a $30 part?
So I guess I have two questions:
Did I break the digitizer, the topmost lens, or somehow the LCD glass without damaging the LCD itself?
How hard is this to replace?
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EDIT: I ordered this on April 17th. Fat chance AT&T will do anything about it, right?
That looks like just the digitizer... I purchased the digitizer already, but haven't gotten the chance to take it apart yet.... to be honest I'm very nervous about taking it apart.. I'm still trying to figure out how to split the two pieces apart (the keyboardbase and the slide screen....
wxy117 said:
That looks like just the digitizer... I purchased the digitizer already, but haven't gotten the chance to take it apart yet.... to be honest I'm very nervous about taking it apart.. I'm still trying to figure out how to split the two pieces apart (the keyboardbase and the slide screen....
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If I'm not mistaken (and I might be), all this should take is removing the two small phillips head screws on the back of the screen that show when the phone is slid open. I landed on this thing while it was open, and drove my knee right into the screen, I'm surprised I didn't break anything else.
There are three more screws that you can't see behind the screen.... when its slid open you can only see 2 screws... There are actually 5
wxy117 said:
There are three more screws that you can't see behind the screen.... when its slid open you can only see 2 screws... There are actually 5
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So we do have to take the whole damn thing apart?
Does anyone have any luck with AT&T replacing things that are clearly accidental damage? With all the horror stories I hear about refurbished phones and the chance that they might send me one, I'd actually rather take my chances at fixing this. I've taken apart a ton of phones and fixed them before, and worked at a cell phone repair shop for a few months. I still have most of my tools lying around, including all the screw drivers I'd need to open this.
I was able to find an HTC service manual that doesn't really explain how to replace the digitizer. It does describe how to get it in two pieces, but I wouldn't know where to go from there.
I have the digitizer in my hand... There is a thing that hooks up to the phone itself so yes i'm pretty sure you have to take apart the entire thing.... I think i'm gonna take the phone to NYC and have someone that knows what they're doing repair it. I tried to get warrenty repair, but they said no because it is accidental damage. i pretty much tried everything before I ordered a new screen.
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I have the digitizer in my hand... There is a thing that hooks up to the phone itself so yes i'm pretty sure you have to take apart the entire thing.... I think i'm gonna take the phone to NYC and have someone that knows what they're doing repair it. I tried to get warrenty repair, but they said no because it is accidental damage. i pretty much tried everything before I ordered a new screen.
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Found a good complete disassembly guide in Russian, why does the screen have to be the LAST thing to come out? I am now looking to buy an LCD/digitizer combo, but I can only find the one from Brando that is made for regular HTC Touch Pros, and not the Fuze (has a camera cutout instead of the AT&T logo).
If I end up having to replace the LCD I'd much rather break it trying to save $50 than just toss it. Is it really that hard to separate the digitizer from the LCD?
http://translate.google.com/transla...ka/htc-touch-pro/&sl=ru&tl=en&history_state0=
has anyone had success separating the Digitizer and the LCD screen?
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has anyone had success separating the Digitizer and the LCD screen?
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Well, we'll find out. I ordered both an AT&T Fuze digitizer by itself as well as an LCD with a digitizer attached. I'm just going to go ahead and replace everything with the combination unit and see if I can replace my broken digitizer without breaking my LCD in my free time. If it works, I have a spare or I can sell it
be careful I got my digitizer and they sent me the wrong one. They sent me one for a sprint touch pro....
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be careful I got my digitizer and they sent me the wrong one. They sent me one for a sprint touch pro....
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Hopefully I'll get it right, I made sure to order an AT&T Fuze digitizer that made it clear it wasn't for use with Sprint Touch Pros or Touch Pros with front facing camera.
The LCD+digitizer I ordered though may very well show up as any of the above, if they're not already attached I'm going to use the AT&T Fuze digitizer on the new LCD, and try and make a new working combo from my old LCD to resell. I'll make a detailed step by step with photos as well.
Don't forget to read this
They just sent out my new one today.... So anyone that needs a digitizer for the Fuze by Sprint hit me up.... They told me to keep it so now I have an extra digitizer that doesn't work for my phone...
I think I can help you cos I repaired LCD and digitizer on Raphael a week ago. Digitizer and LCD are two separate parts joined by flat printed wires. If you need to change just one of them you will need to take apart whole phone.
Raphael consists from 2 main parts - 1. that one with keyboard 2nd part with LCD. You have to take apart both what is quite hard to realize if you this for the first time.
Once you are with your LCD you will see the flat wires grom lcd and digitizer meerged. Split them with your solddering gun carefully! Take new digitizer and solder flat wires together. Anyway there is no glue or liquid fluit or whatever between digitizer and LCD. But - remeber especially those who replacing just LCD - there is kind of black tape around the backside of LCD part (the silver side) - take it apart from old lcd and move to new one. If you dont you will see the rainbow on your LCD but just after assembling whole device together - it is quite concerning if you find out this kinf of malfunction just after such a hard work like a assembling this hellmade device
Good luck to everyone!
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I think I can help you cos I repaired LCD and digitizer on Raphael a week ago. Digitizer and LCD are two separate parts joined by flat printed wires. If you need to change just one of them you will need to take apart whole phone.
Raphael consists from 2 main parts - 1. that one with keyboard 2nd part with LCD. You have to take apart both what is quite hard to realize if you this for the first time.
Once you are with your LCD you will see the flat wires grom lcd and digitizer meerged. Split them with your solddering gun carefully! Take new digitizer and solder flat wires together. Anyway there is no glue or liquid fluit or whatever between digitizer and LCD. But - remeber especially those who replacing just LCD - there is kind of black tape around the backside of LCD part (the silver side) - take it apart from old lcd and move to new one. If you dont you will see the rainbow on your LCD but just after assembling whole device together - it is quite concerning if you find out this kinf of malfunction just after such a hard work like a assembling this hellmade device
Good luck to everyone!
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Thank you for some rather broken, but very helpful advice. Kinda sucks that I'm really happy since I don't have to worry about removing any adhesive, but now I have to sit here and solder flex cables. I shoulda bought a spare one
Do they ship these parts on pigeons from Hong Kong?
To anyone counting on being able to separate the LCD from the digitizer, DON'T. There is absolutely no way to separate them without destroying either or both. Also, take extreme caution when peeling up the flex cable, it is very easy to tear (I tore mine).
So my net cost, 80 + 50, LCD/Digitizer and Flex Cable = $130 vs. sending it to HTC $150. I advise anyone to just pay them rather than take this thing apart.
from my understanding people have done it before... Maybe you just had bad luck? Well we'll see when my screen comes in *crossing fingers*
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from my understanding people have done it before... Maybe you just had bad luck? Well we'll see when my screen comes in *crossing fingers*
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Fact of the matter is when people say this is a delicate phone to take apart, they mean it. I worked at a cell phone repair store for a few weeks, and learned how to take apart damn near anything (thank God this was before the iPhone existed). Not only are both flex cables in this phone taped down in 100 different places, making them very easy to tear while removing the tape, the adhesive used between the LCD and digitizer is STRONG. If you really wanted to separate them, you might have some luck with a straight edge and maybe an hour. Good luck, I'll let you all know how this turns out once I have my new flex cable, since I conveniently tore the volume buttons off the original.
I just got my screen today so we're gonna see some time next week how we do on this screen replacement....I'll let you know how it goes....
So far no luck with my digitizer. Has anyone had any luck just changing out the digitizer yet? The guy that was suppose to do mine is backing out because he doesn't want to risk cracking my LCD. I don't blame him thats the reason I didn't do it. sheik124 what are you doing with your damaged fuze? Are you sending it to HTC for repairs?
Good evening guys, I wanted to ask, any one knows the average price for an Original LCD screen and its Digitizer together?
Im seeing prices from 45~120$ but i wanted to ask if anyone have ever got any before, plz would help me to find the best for my friend Sensation thx.
I called HTC they said 180 and I think its worth it through them rather than a phone repair shop. Which I wish i did....
So I broke my screen. I looked up some digitizers but I dont know what I should get. Could someone please suggest one to buy? I have a T-Mobile USA sensation. Does it really matter which part I buy or will any digitizer work?
I'd recommend you just send it to HTC. I had my digitizer replaced by a computer repair shop that said they could replace my digitizer and I had it done for 70 bucks. After they replaced it my digitizer would barely respond to the point that I couldn't even use it. They replaced it because they had a 30 day warranty but even that replacement was just as bad. I had the digitizer replaced one more time and it was better but still not the same. I just couldn't use it without getting frustrated. I ended up just exchanging my phone through my carrier but I wish I avoided the hassle in the first place....
I replaced both the LCD and the Digitizer just last week on my Sensation. I had the the touch screen issues you guys are talking about, but as soon as I upgraded the radio the problems went away.
Here's a post with the firmware update. You have to be rooted and have your bootloader unlocked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385439
Well can you please PM or post which one you ended up buying
Does anybody has got the link to replacement guide in relation to original lcd + digitizer? On yt I just see how to replace only digitizer but I want to buy an original set (lcd + digit) and replace it. I'm afraid of getting the dust after changing just digitizer.
I bought digitalizer for 30euro and followed you tube video to change it my self... The repair shop asked 180euro for the repair (300 new phone) so I gambled and it was worth it.
Good thing on sensation and htc phones is you can replace the digitalizer alone compared to example Samsung where u need to buy and replace lcd screen same time. Costs loots more.
Sensation XE. Bricked kernel. ViperS ROM. Powered by Mugen battery.
Yeah, but while replacing only a digitizer it's very easy to get dust under it when man doesn't have laboratory conditions.. And then what? Starting all from the beginning? Some time ago I saw on ebay a digitizer + lcd for htc sensation for about 50$ but I just don't know how to replace it
Actually when u have working digitalizer connected u don't need to diassemble. Ucan just pull the screen out with knife from the frame. (because flat cable u need to put phone to pieces) I left some dust under first but then saw this trick on YouTube and used it to clean under screen with micro dust towel.. Anyway even with the minor dust its lot better than broken screen.
Sensation XE. Bricked kernel. ViperS ROM. Powered by Mugen battery.
So no one knows how to assemble digitizer + lcd?
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So no one knows how to assemble digitizer + lcd?
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You tube is your friend.
On you tube are only videos that show how to replace just digitizer or how to DISASSEMBLE lcd + digitizer. I'm looking for info how to ASSEMBLE digitizer + lcd set.
just seen a pair on ebay for $55 :good:
ebay item number: 130646942239
From where should I know which type (A or B) I need to buy? Another problem - how to ASSEMBLE it?
Does anybody know if every lcd + digitizer works with normal sensation? I mean if there exist different versions etc. I have sensation from Europe. Im going to buy the whole screen so I need to know it. Additional question, does lcd + digit from sensation xe works with normal senny? Thnx in advance.
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I bought my digitizer on ebay for ~ 35$ and changed it using youtube videos. Everything works perfectly.
Pretty easy
HI guys,
i repair alot of phones in my spare time and the sensation is pretty easy you can also get a foam seal for the digitizer to prevent dust
ar3na2012 said:
HI guys,
i repair alot of phones in my spare time and the sensation is pretty easy you can also get a foam seal for the digitizer to prevent dust
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I just repair my sensation with spare parts from ebay and it works great.
Okay so I was duped by the low price when trying to fix my wife's One X and purchased the digitiser only.. I didn't even attempt to install it but I did pull her phone apart and destroyed her LCD and Touch screen before even separating the assembly as my tool slipped between the digitiser and LCD resulting in cracked/broken LCD
To be honest its a scam sellers are selling the glass only without clear warning of the dificulties ahead that LCD is sooooo fragile! and too much heat would just break the LCD..... and possibly de solder parts....
Now it still powers up and is visible via USB
Should I splash out the extra $30 and get the LCD only part from eBay and attach it to the touchscreen I already have?
or should I just buy the whole assembled unit for $90(Australian)
also Which LCD would I want? I have the Aussie Tegra version...(So I'm guessing the non AT&T version..)
Any Advice and experience would be appreciated Cheers!
To be honest I'd just buy the LCD + digitizer. The chances of being able to successfully join the two parts together yourself are fairly slim.
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What timaaaaa said. I've yet to hear of anyone doing it successfully, and if there is someone they're definitely the exception. You know first hand how difficult it is to handle those parts, do you really want to risk it? Just put the digitizer you bought back on eBay (if your conscience allows you).
I dropped my nexus 5 getting out if the car and now the glass screen is shattered at a corner. The digitizer seems fin and every where on the screen is responsive.
So I was wondering if there were a place i can order just the LCD screen and without the digitizer/housing.
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The digitizer and LCD are fused together.. You need to replace them both!
If I were you, I would send it to a LG Service outlet and let them replace it. The ones you order online may or may not work + you need to do everything yourself. However, if you're good at it, then ordering online will certainly save you few bucks!
As the phone is only $350. Spending anything more then $150 won't do it for me as I'd rather buy a new or used phone. I was hoping there was a place to get just the glass part.
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The only way that makes sense is if you can get a phone that is as good or better than the n5 for $150 or less.
I dropped mine, three days after it was delivered, no case as it had not yet arrived
The corner of the case was dented and the screen shattered but still fully useabIe.
I was wary about knock off spare parts and my skill with glue and tape if I went DIY so I sent mine in to LG service centre. The cost was £114.67 including Special delivery both ways ( Insured, tracked, next day delivery).
The worst part was the waiting, it took them 10 days to give me an estimate of he cost and three more days to get it back to me. It is good as new now and still has warranty.
I've just checked, thats about $190! So I uderstand your dilemma.
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I dropped my nexus 5 getting out if the car and now the glass screen is shattered at a corner. The digitizer seems fin and every where on the screen is responsive.
So I was wondering if there were a place i can order just the LCD screen and without the digitizer/housing.
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This is Elena from parts4repair.com,we can offer only oem glass for you,(the original one is out of stock now),and I am a new user,so i can't offer the link for you,maybe you will be interested to visit our website,or contact with us by [email protected].
Please notice that:the outer glass lens is without any function of digitizer or display. and only glass replacement is a professional job, and special tools are required, too. By the way, glass and the screen are bonded together, so both separating them and gluing them together are difficult job. Please sure you can do it before order.
Hope can help you,Thanks.
Never try to replace just the glass. You'd need loca glue & a uv light to cure it. The glue could get into other components and totally ruin your phone. And even if by a small chance you can pull it off, it will never be 100 percent. Always replace the whole assembly. - coming from somebody who has tried to replace just the glass.
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Never try to replace just the glass. You'd need loca glue & a uv light to cure it. The glue could get into other components and totally ruin your phone. And even if by a small chance you can pull it off, it will never be 100 percent. Always replace the whole assembly. - coming from somebody who has tried to replace just the glass.
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you are right,it is very hard to get it done right by people who mostly have no experience,so please think twice before do it if it is first time for you to change it.And we also can offer LG N5 D820 a full screen assembly(front housing cover + digitizer + lcd screen+glass).
I used my old front housing and removed the old LCD and Glass. It was very difficult but it came out working 100%. This has been the 3rd display I have fixed and so far the most difficult. The rest of the parts were really easy though. Just separating the LCD and housing was painstakingly time consuming and dangerous.
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Unfortunately I crashed display on moto x play...so if anybody now trusted site to buy new one....tnx
Anyone found a display replacement that includes the front cover? Without it, it should be nearly impossible, am I right?
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I haven't seen any.
I tried combining the components and failed. Broke the circuitry in the LCD when trying to mount the frame...
I asked Motorola what i should do when i dropped my phone and the glas got broken. They told i should send it to their repair service, it was datrepair in Germany maybe its another in other countries. They Arranged everything for me and i paid 120€ for the replacement, just the glass maybe touch but idk, screen was ok when i was sending it in. They even took care of shipping without any cost for me.
Normaly i repair devices by myselfe but in fact the phone was only 1 Month old i refused to it.
If you have a heat gun (or hair dryer) and a set of torx screwdrivers, you should be able to fix it at home. If something is tight, never force it. Use plastic tools to pry open the case, usually comes together with the screwdriver set if you buy them online
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If you have a heat gun (or hair dryer) and a set of torx screwdrivers, you should be able to fix it at home. If something is tight, never force it. Use plastic tools to pry open the case, usually comes together with the screwdriver set if you buy them online
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For that, you would need the lcd including the frame which is nicht available yet...
So atm nearly impossible.
I managed to get some tiny cracks on the edge near the front camera (it fell onto metal from my jacket, i was bending over). Thankfully it's not the touch area, but i now somehow understand why so many people have cracked phones. It happens so quickly. And i was treating it like a raw eggshell, too.
I dropped mine as I was getting out of the car.It cost me R1500 (R is for South African Rand) to replace the screen.The guys who repaired it had to crack the plastic frame to get the screen out .They used glue to keep the new screen in place.I dont think they knew what they were doing,but it was the only repair center that was in the same province as me.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Screen-...Assembly-For-Moto-X-Play-XT1562-/351672097858
Finally a full assembly, actually think I am going to try AGAIN. maybe I will make a video on it
There is also a full assembly available on aliexpress. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-5-...-1&btsid=5347749e-d1d5-4871-a4c2-dafc85fd700d
I should have checked ebay prior as that one ships from the states and would have got here way quicker.
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There is also a full assembly available on aliexpress. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-5-...-1&btsid=5347749e-d1d5-4871-a4c2-dafc85fd700d
I should have checked ebay prior as that one ships from the states and would have got here way quicker.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Screen-...Assembly-For-Moto-X-Play-XT1562-/351672097858
Finally a full assembly, actually think I am going to try AGAIN. maybe I will make a video on it
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Yeah, please make a video it'll help many.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_yzMPWCQOM This video shows the whole process with a complete display assembly. Its incredibly more difficult if you get the screen without the frame as the screen is affixed to the frame with some sort of adhesive foam.
I also broke my screen and ordered a replacement. Unfortunately I broke the frame in the process of removing the old screen.
Luckily I got my hands on a replacement frame and some 3M 2 milimeters adhesive strips. Praying for everything to work out put together..
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I also broke my screen and ordered a replacement. Unfortunately I broke the frame in the process of removing the old screen.
Luckily I got my hands on a replacement frame and some 3M 2 milimeters adhesive strips. Praying for everything to work out put together..
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Best of luck, if you can document the process as there isn't much info out on screen replacements where you affix a new frame to a screen. My frame broke when I dropped my phone which is why I just got the whole unit. Cost me about $62 CAD shipped for the whole unit.
Has anyone here tried a replacement? Any tips?
So is it possible to change just the glass without the whole display unit?
I'm talking bout this part: Outer Screen Glass Replacement
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So is it possible to change just the glass without the whole display unit?
I'm talking bout this part: Outer Screen Glass Replacement
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So, I tried for myself with my old display after I got a replacement new display including a new frame.
It is absolutely impossible to separate the front glass from the digitizer and display without destroying all three.
I think even a professional wouldn't be able to do it. Display and digitizer are very flexible while the screen is glued really really good to them
I heated it up to no avail. Maybe some glue remover would have helped, but I don't think it would get between the glass and the digitizer.
These phones are just not build to be repared, they are build to be thrown away.
Exchanging the new frame including display was no easy job too, but it can be done.
Be sure to have a high quality Torx T3 screwdriver or bit, the cheap china ones will do nothing but destroy the tiny screws.