"We've made some improvements to Bing. To continue using the Bing app, you must update now."
That's the message that people have been getting since mid July when they try to use live search or the classic version of the Bing app.
Has anyone found a way to disable the update check feature? Once that message popsup, Bing becomes unusable.
The new version of Bing, while giving Navigation, takes away several nice features, like being able to save to contacts, search by movie theatre, view gas prices and more.
Classic or old version = before 5.x releases
I missed the ability to search for the gas prices. Sure, bing is a nice feature when searching for things, but it sucks as a stand alone app when your looking for LOCATION SPECIFIC things.
The only resolution I can think of is to find what site it gets the gas prices/ movie listings from and make a sub-bing app that only has those things.
Well for a really annoying work around you can enable airplane mode before you open Bing, then disable it after it is open. Works till next opening.
Problem still here. Microsoft still has no response:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com...e/thread/8bb5eed8-2ab6-4233-a5c6-4c9c4326a11e
I was going to post this in a device specific forum but it happened on both of my CM 10.2 devices at the same time. This isn't a question so much as how I managed to solve the problem.
I was getting a 403 error and unable to download a lot of updates for some apps. Specifically Lux and 2Do as well as some issues with SkySafari and a number of other paid apps. The error seems to have something to do with apps having been bought on one but not both of my Google accounts. Like many I have a "household" Google account to keep from having to buy one app 6 times or more often subscribe to a magazine or buy a book for every individual in my family.
So, I went around and I did the thing where you remove all of your Google accounts, wipe data on Play Store, Services, and Framework and then add back. I started to have to do that every single time one of the problem apps updated. For Lux I did a test and bought it on both accounts, this cleared up the problem. Not going to happen though, defeats the entire point. Finally on one of my trials I uninstalled the updates to the play store and then cleared the data. Quickly I went in and the updates installed as long as I went into the "My Apps" under "All" and selected the account that actually paid for them.
So, I hope this helps someone before they end up doing the nuclear option and completely formatting a device and starting fresh, trying to get the errors to stop.
For what its worth the Play Store version I finally got to work is v4.3.10 and v4.4.21 (the current version) seems to have some kind of bug where this kind of problem can happen.
Okay, so this device has given me it's fair share of weird play store fails -9XX errors.. I've had to jump through amazing hoops to just make Play Music work a few times, it ends up telling me that I don't have enough storage available on a 64gigs device, cm'onnnn, perhaps is has something to do with Play suddenly saying all my damn tracks in the cloud has a lengh of "Infinite", that's just ridiculous. I have never had all of these issues before on my tablets or previous phones. So what is up? The newest one is Google Drive and Facebook crashing like a boss, even when they "try" to run in the background. Then I uninstalled Facebook and I got Play Store error -24, I cleared everything, deleted Facebook app and rebooted, then it installed. Facebook went back to just bootlooping and crashing all over the fcking place. I'ma show you a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQCgOf3E70A
Check it out, if you have any solution to this, please let me know. I can live without it, it's just that.. It's amazing how many issues I've had with Play Store and Services on this device. I always use CM.. I always flash this ****.. I've never seen these issues flooding my device before.
/CuraeL
I currently have an S20 Ultra that I am very close to returning while I still can (Exynos and camera) I have wanted the P40 pro (or Mate 30 pro) ever since they were announced but just wrote them off due to the lack of Google.
The thing is though I'd be totally ok with a lot about life without Google, I use a 3rd party email app, I could easily switch my contacts and calendar back to iCloud and rarely watch netflix on my phone. So then it just comes down to the no google pay and the potential faff to work around not having Google Photos.
My question is for those that have it how are finding it day to day? Are the limitations a frustration too far or does it work for you?
arsenal74 said:
I currently have an S20 Ultra that I am very close to returning while I still can (Exynos and camera) I have wanted the P40 pro (or Mate 30 pro) ever since they were announced but just wrote them off due to the lack of Google.
The thing is though I'd be totally ok with a lot about life without Google, I use a 3rd party email app, I could easily switch my contacts and calendar back to iCloud and rarely watch netflix on my phone. So then it just comes down to the no google pay and the potential faff to work around not having Google Photos.
My question is for those that have it how are finding it day to day? Are the limitations a frustration too far or does it work for you?
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If you can live with some compromises, then it's an amazing phone. The Camera is phenomenal, the battery life is great, and apps and games run super smooth.
Getting GMS up and working is a straight forward process, but be prepared to do it a few times to get it right (it took me about 6 attempts to get it fully working with no notifications and app errors etc) and follow the steps precisely. Obviously, it's still not going to be as smooth a Googley and app experience as your Samsung, missing G-Pay, G-Music and a few others may or may not be crucial to you. Plus many apps won’t give notifications - but I don't mind this so much it's quite nice not having random notifications all day and only getting them when i open the app and actually want to see - I predominantly use Whatsapp and notifications work fine here.
I did try a few days without Google services, but the App Gallery really is terrible. It might have 45000 apps, but 44950 are awful. Downloading apps from elsewhere works, but many apps crash with a 'No google services' type error. So, for me the compromise of having some stuff work with GMS is the better option and the rest of the phone makes it worthwhile.
Thanks, how would you feel if sideloading GPS was not possible? Strikes me that that would have to be my assumption going in as whatever loophole allows it could get closed at any time.
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Thanks, how would you feel if sideloading GPS was not possible? Strikes me that that would have to be my assumption going in as whatever loophole allows it could get closed at any time.
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Personally I only installed GMS out of the "urge" to tinker with my phone. I love that stuff. But honestly, I wouldn't mind not having Google services on my phone, there are enough alternatives on the Huawei App Gallery. For me, at least. Everyone is different. Check out some of the posts on here or reddit where people list some good Google apps alternatives. Like
Gmail = Bluemail or Aquamail.
Google Maps = Here WeGo or Maps.me
etc.
And you're right about the loophole possibly getting closed. That's why I wouldn't recommend this phone to people who are heavily dependent on Gapps. But if you can live without them, then just buy it! It's a great phone and I'm very satisfied with it, so far.
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Thanks, how would you feel if sideloading GPS was not possible? Strikes me that that would have to be my assumption going in as whatever loophole allows it could get closed at any time.
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I think that it would still be a great phone, I'm sure i could cope with downloading APKs using ApkPure etc, but it would be less attractive. Really hoping the workarounds still work when the Pro+ version arrives!
On a side note, i said on the above post that it took many attempts to get GMS fully working with no errors. Yesterday evening I had a meltdown and accidentally removed my Google account and it was not possible to re-add it, so i backed up my stuff and reset the phone. I followed the steps from Swag Sell's 7th May video on YouTube (using the same files as always) and it worked first time with no errors and took about 20 minutes, I think as people refine the processes and steps it gets more accurate.
On the google side it is only really google photos that would bug me as I use that, I could live without google pay. Email would not be a problem, other than that it would just be not getting notifications for other apps. I actually think there are some plus points of being google free!
I am really tempted as the camera on the S20 Ultra is just a let-down (the hardware is there but I have no confidence Samsung will get the software right) I really liked the P30 pro and am actually considering getting another but the P40 pro just looks like a really good device.
I like my P40 Pro a lot but I'm waiting for improvements in the camera department.
The phone is fast, stable, looks great, feels great and has good battery life.
I don't really trust my privacy in the hands of big US tech companies, so it's nice to break free from Google. The only Google apps I sideloaded are YouTube Vanced and Google Maps. I tried other GPS applications but unfortunately none really lived up to GMaps, even Waze. So I'm using GMaps without GMS which means no saved/starred places etc, but that's ok with me. As an alternative, I'm saving my search history locally on the device and I created home screen shortcuts (GMap widget) for addresses that I want to "save".
H-Emmanuel said:
I like my P40 Pro a lot but I'm waiting for improvements in the camera department.
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Really? Camera would be the main driver for me getting this phone.
I assume banking apps are a no no too?
I think I am going to give the P40 Pro a try, Amazon have a pretty good deal including the watch, do have one final question..
For those who have managed to install GPS how safe do you feel? i.e. if you were able to get your banking apps working or PayPal would you be happy using them? Only ask as the method obviously involves installing stuff from unknown sources.
I am on the fence of accepting I will not get my banking apps or google photos and going the app clone, app gallery route and finding a workaround for photos.
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Really? Camera would be the main driver for me getting this phone.
I assume banking apps are a no no too?
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The current camera app doesn't unleash the camera's full potential.
Some banking apps work, others don't, there's no hard rule.
Bit disappointed so far ... I have not installed any GMS mods .. just cloned some apps and installed from apkpure, amazon app store, etc.
1. call earspeaker volume is low
2. call speaker volume is low
3. no AOD weather & music controls
4. notifications missing for most side-loaded apps (whatsapp ok, skype + others are a fail)
5. notifications disappear after unlocking (usual huawei thing)
6. amazon photos app crashes
7. gestural nav quick app switcher is supported with an option but doesnt seem to work.
That's about it for now.
(4) is critical .. the others I can probably overlook for a while.
Ok I pulled the trigger and it arrived today. So far I have just used phone clone, app gallery and Amazon/APKPure, early days but so far it feels quite seamless.
Not had a chance to form an opinion on how good the phone is overall other than it feels really nice in the hand but my experience/observations in terms of what is working and not so far are as follows:
- All of my non-google apps transfered over just fine other than Uber and eBay
- Installed eBay from apkpure but it does not work.
- Lastpass works fine with none of the errors or pop-ups I have seen mentioned elsewhere
- My First Direct Banking app also works fine and appears so far as normal as does PayPal
- Newton Mail, gives a GPS error but does work ok, no notifications though. May have to go back to Nine or try another app
- Nova Launcher works ok and Nova Prime app also transfered over. Nova Google companion does not seem to work though
Early days and some of the above could change and go wrong but so far I am not feeling the temptation to install GPS.
Google Photos yuo can use in browser. Full functionality with Google account. Also almost all other things are usable in browser or you can download app via Apk Pure... for example. The camera with the latest update ... . 121 is super. And I had for a few days Note 10 and also S20 but battery life was terrible. And the camera here is simply the best, and so so smooth and fast user experience.
Update Amazon photos crashes constantly, not a fan of the browser route as it feels quite clunky so am going to try piktures.
Surely the lack of notifications is an issue for you?
WhatsApp notifications work just fine as does obviously SMS.
Still looking for email, outlook seems hit and miss but notifications are coming through on it. I have used nine before but obviously no way of carrying through my purchase.
I think the key is identifying apps that do not reply on GPS to work.
I am going to persevere a bit before trying to install GPS, only because it looks a faff and is also not a one-of job. I’ll see how I feel after a few days. WhatsApp, email and sms are the must haves, the others can follow hopefully.
The camera is very very good, tested it briefly against my ultra and indoors it is just no contest. I’m sure outside in good light it is a personal preference thing but in mid to low light so far it seems streets ahead.
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I’ll see how I feel after a few days. WhatsApp, email and sms are the must haves, the others can follow hopefully.
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yes .. it's close to being acceptable for me with whatsapp working ... really just skype is the problem for my must haves .. the others are not so critical ... i can use calendars etc from HAG.
such a hassle to go back to google services just for skype.
Can you continue to use your game progress saved with Google Play? I refuse to use Facebook to save my progress, so Play is the only way I can keep my progress.
I have installed Keep on my watch it just says notes syncing. I have granted files permission. Anyone got Keep working? Phone is Note 20 ultra 5g android 10.
How did you install on watch? I tried multiple ways with no success. When I go out to play page I'm only able to install to phone.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.keep
Play store on watch
I have installed Google keep on watch and it has synced my notes, however it is missing a Search button/function which makes the app worthless for me...
stakoz said:
I have installed Google keep on watch and it has synced my notes, however it is missing a Search button/function which makes the app worthless for me...
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How did you install it? Did you have to change any permissions or anything on the phone to get it to sync?
Hi, I don't remember any specific issues, just went to the Play store and tapped on the option available/install on other devices (GW4). If you have issues, you may try to look up the APK (from APKmirror or similar) and ADB side load it on the watch. As I have tried sideloading on the watch also the phone app (because of the missing search function on the watch app) and it opens but does not seem to be able to search either and frequently crashes maybe because of insufficient RAM. Finally I tried using a chrome browser app on my watch (sideloaded again from a watch APK) and by using the web interface of Google Keep and it works but is a mixed experience due to interface not being optimized for a watch/ circular screen etc
Anyone have any luck getting Google Keep to stop syncing? I've tried reinstalling on the watch and phone, clearing various caches, etc. No luck. I only have five notes, so it shouldn't be a heavy lift.
I´ve also installed keep on my GW4 from the play store on the watch. And it also keeps syncing. When I´m fast enough after app start and click on one of my 3 notes, it opens and I can edit successfully.
I had these issues in the past also on notes for smartphone but on some update they fixed it. I guess we have to wait for an app update from Google. In the meantime, we´ve to pull out our smartphone during shopping
Similar to the previous post, if I open Keep and quickly select "Show All", it'll of course post the "Syncing" banner.
But then, I leave the app (right swipe), open Keep again and quickly scroll down my Notes before the banner can display, I'll see my million+ notes.
Sometimes I have to re-enter the app again and scroll quickly to the bottom of the list again before the banner displays, but it'll work - at least for me.
Hope this helps!
And I hope Google fixes this! Don't they test their code??
Have the same issue. Literally nothing works on this POS.
MKchrias said:
I have installed Keep on my watch it just says notes syncing. I have granted files permission. Anyone got Keep working? Phone is Note 20 ultra 5g android 10.
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Got an update to Keep on the phone today, and it appears to have fixed the syncing issue! You'll have to uninstall Keep from your watch, then re-install it, but so far so good!